I watched this and the remake. For some reason, the original was much more sickening. I will never watch it again. Just thinking how the two girls must of felt (especially Mari on her birthday) makes me almost cry. It wasn't scary, but it was really really sad. Complete disregard for human life doesn't make a good movie for me when it is portrayed in such a sadistic way. I love scary movies, not deeply disturbing ones. And Phyllis's grisly death will haunt me forever.
Yes most of the 70's horror movies were a reaction to Vietnam while today's shockers like Hostel, Saw, Final Destination sequels and others are reactions to 9/11 and today's war against Afghanistan
i'll be honest, i find this film a fucking abomination. I dont care if theres a clever message about violence in the media, that can be acheived much more tactfully in films like Haneke's Funny Games. This film to me just feeds a sadistic, perverse society fuelled by violence. It genuinely disgusts me.
What do you think of Men Behind The Sun, Maniac (1980), Hostel 1 & 2, Driller Killer, Saw Series, Martyrs, The Untold Story, Cannibal Ferox, Cannibal Holocaust, Ichi The Killer etc.?
@Johnlindsey289 I've only seen the first Saw and Ichi The Killer and I thought they were OK actually. I wanted to correct my earlier statment actually (I'd completely forgotten I wrote it) my real problem is with this film rather than all violent films as my previous statement implied. The film still disgusts me and I dont think it was directed or acted well at all and I have no time for Craven as a director. But not due to what depicted in the film. I just dont think it was done well..
@Johnlindsey289 I've only seen the first Saw and Ichi The Killer and I thought they were OK actually. I wanted to correct my earlier statment actually (I'd completely forgotten I wrote it) my real problem is with this film rather than all violent films as my previous statement implied. The film still disgusts me and I dont think it was directed or acted well at all and I have no time for Craven as a director. But not due to what depicted in the film. I just dont think it was done well..
THE most powerful statement about depravity and pointless violence isn't in this movie, its in 'Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer'. The director makes you think you're watching live mayhem, rape, murder and near-necrophilia, and then a pan back has YOU watching what the killers recorded for their own entertainment right along with them, putting YOU on the same level as THEM-watching images of people butchered for giggles
And that's all people are to the 2 killers, images to be manipulated
only prob I have with graphic rape and violence in movies is I don't like the idea of real criminal sickos enjoying them, and the mix of nudity, sex and violence means some little kid getting a boner and then watching a gutting...
and please don't tell me well, kids ain't supposed to watch this stuff. negro puh-leeze
The main reason I love this movie is cause it is sick as can be... I miss the real lake scene in the remake. And you are right Mr. Craven "it does not make us comfortable".
@WhoIsBaz Maybe also because Phyllis' parents don't appear in the film. And Mari's parents DO care about Phyllis since they ask Mari what happened to her in that deleted scene.
In the film, as Mari's mum finds the bloody clothes in the killers' suitcase, she hears Krug threatening his own son Junior: "Shut up or you go into the lake with her!" That's how the parents find Mari rather quickly, near the lake. They can't find Phyllis' body since it's been left behind far away from the lake.
When and where did this documentary come from? These interviews were not included in the Region 1 2009 DVD. For example in the commentaries they have the other actors but not the actress who played Phyllis.
@WhoIsBaz Phyllis IS mentioned, by her friend Mari, before she gets tortured and raped. She's also mentioned by Mari's parents, in a rare, deleted scene that is visible on youtube.
For your info the lady on this video at 2:00 is Lucy Grantham, the actress who portrays Phyllis. It's so bad she chose not to continue to be an actress afterwards...
I havent seen the original. I only saw the remake. I liked it. It was a bit akward watching the rape scene though. lol. But is the original worth watching?
@mmmmaaaaggggiiii the original is 10 times more violent and disturbing than the remake. possibly the most disutrbing but greatest horror film ever made in my opinion
really? Im pretty interested in seeing it, lol but im scared im gonna vomit from it. hahaha. Is there a rape scene in the original? if there is, is it worse? Cuz the one on this movie was pretty bad and i cringed alottttttttt... and doesntlike the mom bite of the evil guys penis? :|
@mmmmaaaaggggiiii yea there is a rape scene but its suprisingly not as hard to watch as the remake rape scene. But there are some very hard to stomach scenes. Yea the mum does bite of the evil guys penis :) lol
I saw this one after the remake and it ROCKED! They're a bit different in how they portrait the people and what happens - the remake is more "hollywood", I think (splatter, the lighting, pretty actors etc) and the original feels more like a documentary. In a good, creepy way. I thing there's only one bad thing about this one and it's the two silly cops in it, but I'm guessing they're there to lighten things up. Maybe all this would've been too much to handle back in the seventies without them...
But do you think the new torture flicks like Saw or hostel live up the graphicness of the original Last House? these new films knew how to rape the senses of a new generation of horror fans to the jugular just like Last House.
In my opinion the original Last House was creepy and horrific just because it felt so real. It was like I was there rather than just watching a movie. Saw, Hostel and the remake of Last House are grosse and unsettling but mainly because they're filled with gore, blood, torture, panic... etc. The original Last House didn't need special effects to make me cringe, the new ones seem to rely on them. But again, that's just my opinion. And even though Saw is grosse, I keep watching the sequels!
What's wrong with reflecting 9/11? Saw and Hostel were a response to the soft teen slasher flicks from the 90's such as Scream and stuff. These films weren't tounge in cheek like those, these films were tough, raw and went for the jugular.
A little of it could have been an allegory and reflection of 9/11 and the George Bush era you know. But what is your stand on the remake?
I think you're getting a bit too intellectual on me, so I'll just keep it short.
I liked the remake, it had some surprises and of course modern gore and blood, but also psychological horror - like the rape scene. But as far as the (last three) Saw-films go, I feel they're just meant to shock. And that's okay, I can go for pure shock somedays. But I enjoy a slasher more if there's a reasonable plot to it as well.
i saw this as a teen in the seventies and thought it the most terrifying film I'd seen. not scary, but like I was watching something really happening. the actors were so convincing I forgot they were acting. I still watch it to this day and it still is a shocker.
the thing that makes both the remake and original horrifying and cringe worthy is the fact that it actually happens, that there are people that crazy and sadistic. the movie is very confronting but all in all it teaches people it can happen to anyone and always be aware of STRANGER DANGER
I basically adore him! He is vastly underrated as a filmmaker because of some of the subject matter he has chosen (from a commercial standpoint); however, unlike the accolades doled out to Carpenter & especially Romero (both completely justified!), Craven has never been given his proper due. This documentary really emphasizes it. Wes, you're the man!!! I hate that NOES is being remade and probably ruined; I hate that they dissed you & didn't ask you to be a consultant on one of your great works.
Yes, the original is supremely sadistic. The remake toned it down...Way Down! The encounter with both girls is as sadistic a scene that you'll see in film.
On top of that, the remake's ending might as well as been done by Disney compared to the original.
I dunno I'm not blaming Wes Craven and I don't understand why people are blaming him.... I know this is a "remake" of an old movie (The virgin spring) but seriously this is his vision and he was doing a horror movie so of course there's gonna be blood all over the place especially with today's criterias of what is an horror movie. Personnaly I think it was good (gore but good) even though it was hard to watch sometimes (and I'm a horror movie addict)...
Wow, what artistic geniuses, having intellectual discussions about girls pissing their pants and disembowelment. Art may be about real things, but this was an exploitation movie created to make money pure and simple. And it isn't even an original idea--its a gross-out remake of an Ingmar Bergman film "The Virgin Spring". Gotta love how the movie that supposedly condemns violence is filled to the brim with every sick act in the book. These guys--now famous--are obviously ashamed of this film.
The movie is an interpretation of the time in which is was made; it makes you feel filthy and that's the point. It shoves your face in shit and only offends those pretentious enough to think they are above that. It's commentary on the human propensity for violence as a true, driving force of nature. And it wasn't even an original idea when Ingmar Bergman made that movie: "The story is based on a 13th century Swedish ballad named "Töres dotter i Wänge"..." Everything has it's origins.
LOLOL!! I love how people are blaming Wes Craven for giving people some sort of trauma, lolz.
It's not like he's having a gun pointing to your head to force you to watch the film in the first place.
Oh please, the real life is much much more WORSE than any horror movie. Reality traumatizes much more, mothers killing their babies, students shooting in schools, rape, everything that we hear in the news is REAL.
I would too when i first saw this it did scare me mostly becuase of the beginning where it said it's only a movie, so i was exspecting worse then i got. By worse I mean more gory and violent
This movie is by far the best movie i've seen so far. This movie had me jumping out of my seat lol!! not even the new friday the 13th gave me that effect lol!
now this is a movie meaning that its fake. now y dont they censor the news i mean it shows school shootins and shit like that thats real. real stuff will affect ppl more then fake stuff
I always have a big problem with exploitation films and most especially ones that feature very violent and graphoc rape. But I'm impressed with Wes Craven here, giving an inciteful and thoughtful over view of the film and why he felt he needed to go to those psychological places, and also reminded the audience that unfortunately these unbearable things do happen, and we are horrified by films like this because those crimes are horrifying. I know because it happened to two separate friends.
Wait until you see The Unrated 2 which is coming out next Christmas...if you think this one is bad - I heard that one has 5 rape scenes in it!!!!!!!!! FIVE!!!
This is addresed to sneisch below. So, because of the 'unstable' people out there, are you suggesting that films that portray violence, especially sexual violence, should not be shown? I find 'Last House' very difficult to watch but I support it being out there! The whole 'movies cause violence and threaten women' argument etc is totally invalid to anybody who knows anything about history! As a character in Craven's scream says, 'Movies don't make Psychos. Movies make pyscho's more creative!'
To adamchabbi6 there both the same accept i spit on your was more brutal but besides that there basicly the same accept the rape sceens in i spit on your grave were alot more brutal
YES! i totally agree with you! after i saw this movie im like what the FUCK?! how mentally disturbed do u have to b to make a movie like this?! im soo pissed off at the person who made this. he/she needs to get shot and thrown in a ditch. god
Grow up. Wes portrayed violence as REAL and REPULSIVELY as possible instead of glorifying it, or framing it with casual neglect.
Consider this though: The bad guys get what's coming to them, the innocent are avenged, and the theme of the whole movie is that lying to your parents, fornicating, going to rock and roll shows and doing drugs will bring terrible tragedy to yourself, family and friends... It could almost pass for a bible passage.
I love how you're blaming Wes for other people's inability to control themselves and their mental illness. Hmm... Maybe we should blame everything that everyone does on movies/music/televisions/video games. You know, never take responsibility for what we do. Or maybe we could keep in mind that no one is holding a gun to our heads making us watch these things and then repeat them. And that people have been doing far worse than what's in this movie way before tv and films were invented.
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You have a good point I agree with. At the same time, movies etc... have impact on minds. Sometimes people don't think about something until someone else brings it up. Reality as well. You can't say entertainment has no influence on anyone including the mentally ill.
I agree, entertainment does have some sort of influence on people for sure. But I don't think it's as extreme as people make it out to be, you know? I don't think a perfectly rational person will see a movie and decide to go on a killing spree. If someone sees something and copy it I'm more than willing to be it's due to mental illness and therefore not the fault of the artist who created the movie/song/tv show, etc.
Ok, after reading that comment you are completely right. The Artist should get NO blame for their art. A person see's something disturbing then it is their CHOICE to act, and the viewr is solely responsible. That also applies to everyday life. People just need to have moral and common sense. Censorship Sucks!
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I have lived amongst the world of mentally ill for my entire life and have seen that not all of them choose to act the way they do I know this from first hand experience, where did you get your opinion? some book? I've actually SEEN proof contrary to what you are stating
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I have a condition considered a mental illness and have been a part of this world for years and people mistakenly quote ALL people with conditions considered to be mental illnesses to be idiots and such I would like it if you would not use such umbrella statements in future as some of us don't like to be referred to in that way
Um... you're the one who has made the mistake. Maybe you should go back and read what I typed. You seem to be confused. I never said anything like what you've typed.
Have you ever sae I Spit One Your Grave kinda like LHOTL the difference is this young woman is renting a summer house when a couple of good oldboys rape her serveal times alot more graphic then last house on the left when she recovers she makes up a plot to kill them one by one and the deaths are more disturbing the the last it stars the guy who played Krug in LHOTL as the main rapest i own both but i spit on your grave is more realestic a broken bottle isput in her cunt there remaking it to
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I love the way they get into this deep psychological analysis, as if this was a deep provoking work of art. It was a cheap, exploitive piece of garbage. Wes Craven is a clown. How hard is it to make something gross and violent?
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Such nonsense, this is a film dated by its silly music, bad acting and ludicrous script as being a period film. It's hard to take seriously. Of course it's only a movie -- so many things happen that wouldn't happen in real life. What mother of a murdered daughter would take her killer's penis in her mouth, EVER? lol... ridiculous
I must be missing something. Wes and Sean make this big deal about trying to find a "complete version" of the film. But theaters get "prints", positives from the original film negative. So why can't they find the original negative? Lost? Destroyed?
well, jeffXedge is right...don't base your opinions, views, or watever that ur feeling towards this movie like that...ur like basing it to the present time...this movie is so brutal for that time...not for this time..so, just back off!!
it wouldn't be banned if it wasnt that brutal...(for their time,not the present)...
well, for the present, it's not much scary...but im scared..thinking of no technology that can help (cellphone) and being in the woods..eeeww...dnt wanna die that way..haha
before i saw this movie i was veary interested in watching it when i saw " its only a movie " tagline but after watch the movie and now watch the same line i can help but laugh this movie was pretty bad im as in horrible not scary bad i actully laughed at some parts
You're missing the point though. When this movie came out no one had really seen anything like this as far as movies go and was one of the most "brutal" things anyone had seen and it caused a huge uproar. Now adays yeah it's kind of cheesy, but back in the day, having never seen anything like this before and living in a time where we didnt see this all the time, it was too intense for some people. So you're just being ignorant to the facts.
your right right about that but you dont have to call me ignorant im just expressing what i see thats all, and i cant help it that im a critic, i mean everyone is even you i bet
what u said is true, but dont forget, sexualised violence on celluloid was not too familiar with american audiences, but real life violence was all over american tv during that time, with vietnam, it was the presence of real, media violence that helped push low budget filmakers into making terryfying films such as this and TCM.
thats weird. i got the same vibe of Funny Games whem the made that girl pee... anyone kno wt i meen? it's the same kind of movie that makes ur stomache hurt bcuz its really gross how sick people really are. loved Funny Games tho
i saw this movie on demand for the first time and it included both of those scenes. of course it doesn't show the dick being bit off, but it was still gross.
hes redoin his own movie, so its pretty much him makin a more modern version. Im sure this will be as good as the original. Great song to put w/ the trailer also
I watched this and the remake. For some reason, the original was much more sickening. I will never watch it again. Just thinking how the two girls must of felt (especially Mari on her birthday) makes me almost cry. It wasn't scary, but it was really really sad. Complete disregard for human life doesn't make a good movie for me when it is portrayed in such a sadistic way. I love scary movies, not deeply disturbing ones. And Phyllis's grisly death will haunt me forever.
classicalnut1 1 week ago
This film was too violent to be enjoyable
InsanicManiac 2 months ago
This movie is hella shady
kennedkint 2 months ago
Very disturbing flick. To me it was just violence for violence sake.
SallyJo1959 3 months ago
Maniac (1980) is better than this
Johnlindsey289 4 months ago
wow.... i want to work for him.
angel2rx 5 months ago
Wes Craven's reaction to the Vietnam war ?
TheEvilelvis89 7 months ago 2
@TheEvilelvis89 possible.
barkingtree88 7 months ago
@TheEvilelvis89
Yes most of the 70's horror movies were a reaction to Vietnam while today's shockers like Hostel, Saw, Final Destination sequels and others are reactions to 9/11 and today's war against Afghanistan
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BrockValenzuela 8 months ago
@LOLWTFMARKELL You missed the point of it, then.
TheDensley7 8 months ago
Such movies are stupid and humiliating for the whole human race. It's horrible. Let's forbid that.
Pomax21 9 months ago
@Pomax21 Fuck off.
TheDensley7 8 months ago 7
Let's not forget even this picture has comic relief; the dopey cops!
JeffTheNorse 10 months ago
i'll be honest, i find this film a fucking abomination. I dont care if theres a clever message about violence in the media, that can be acheived much more tactfully in films like Haneke's Funny Games. This film to me just feeds a sadistic, perverse society fuelled by violence. It genuinely disgusts me.
SQUIDERICK 1 year ago 2
@SQUIDERICK Funny games was like being told off for two hours - Haneke is a smug cunt. This film is a masterpiece.
TheDensley7 9 months ago
@TheDensley7 Funny Games was exactly like being told off for two hours, it was different from the normal film. This is porn for the sadistic.
SQUIDERICK 9 months ago
@SQUIDERICK Is it? This is the most moral portrayel of violence I have ever seen.
TheDensley7 9 months ago
@TheDensley7 I dont think theres anything moral about this film.
SQUIDERICK 9 months ago
@SQUIDERICK
What do you think of Men Behind The Sun, Maniac (1980), Hostel 1 & 2, Driller Killer, Saw Series, Martyrs, The Untold Story, Cannibal Ferox, Cannibal Holocaust, Ichi The Killer etc.?
Johnlindsey289 4 months ago
@Johnlindsey289 I've only seen the first Saw and Ichi The Killer and I thought they were OK actually. I wanted to correct my earlier statment actually (I'd completely forgotten I wrote it) my real problem is with this film rather than all violent films as my previous statement implied. The film still disgusts me and I dont think it was directed or acted well at all and I have no time for Craven as a director. But not due to what depicted in the film. I just dont think it was done well..
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@Johnlindsey289 I've only seen the first Saw and Ichi The Killer and I thought they were OK actually. I wanted to correct my earlier statment actually (I'd completely forgotten I wrote it) my real problem is with this film rather than all violent films as my previous statement implied. The film still disgusts me and I dont think it was directed or acted well at all and I have no time for Craven as a director. But not due to what depicted in the film. I just dont think it was done well..
SQUIDERICK 4 months ago
@SQUIDERICK Then don't watch it fuckhead!
TheRitchardgaleHater 3 months ago
@mermaydlondon
With the bible you can justify anything.
What came after the god gave moses 10 commandments?
Moses and his followers went to kill those who worshipped golden bull in order to purify themselves loool.
Btw do you by anychance know which version of last house they are showing here?
I watched one version and the killings were not at all disturbing it showed less things then in steven segal movie lol.
PhreakStep 1 year ago
The moral story of this movie was.
Like the good ol bible says
"Eye for an eye"
PhreakStep 1 year ago
@PhreakStep You completely missed the point of it, then.
TheDensley7 9 months ago
THE most powerful statement about depravity and pointless violence isn't in this movie, its in 'Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer'. The director makes you think you're watching live mayhem, rape, murder and near-necrophilia, and then a pan back has YOU watching what the killers recorded for their own entertainment right along with them, putting YOU on the same level as THEM-watching images of people butchered for giggles
And that's all people are to the 2 killers, images to be manipulated
PorkFrog 1 year ago
only prob I have with graphic rape and violence in movies is I don't like the idea of real criminal sickos enjoying them, and the mix of nudity, sex and violence means some little kid getting a boner and then watching a gutting...
and please don't tell me well, kids ain't supposed to watch this stuff. negro puh-leeze
PorkFrog 1 year ago
I would have thrown up too during the gutting scene.
Scene68 1 year ago
i like this part:6:22
blackcusedlady 1 year ago
This film was GORY, but brilliant.
GimmeKitty 1 year ago
I hired this out today. It looks more like a comedy than a horror film!
thegreeninferno 1 year ago
piss your pants
sanjuro4 1 year ago
rape rules ??? wtf only a mental person wuld say that rape isnt fun or cool its harsh honistly xD
puppyprincess110 1 year ago
That's justice when she rips the tool off his belly
SuperBrownandproud 1 year ago
rape rulz
sociallooter 1 year ago
roger ebert gave it 3 1/2 stars :O
KaristaSwiss 1 year ago
why is it banned
KuppyKakes101 1 year ago
@KuppyKakes101 because its a controversal movie
Zooroonies 1 year ago
@KuppyKakes101 Cause it's graphic, never been released completely uncut sadly.
But is available as complete as it could be.
ExploitationCannibal 1 year ago
i thought the rob zombie song was about to start lol
SpunkRansom1000 1 year ago 5
@SpunkRansom1000 i
i thought the same. haha
TheKarui 1 year ago
remake sux
jmccu100 1 year ago
@jmccu100 Noooooo
ExploitationCannibal 1 year ago
The main reason I love this movie is cause it is sick as can be... I miss the real lake scene in the remake. And you are right Mr. Craven "it does not make us comfortable".
dexdotsys 1 year ago
Just saw part of this movie on HBO. It's brutal. I hope it doesn't give any crazy people ideas. Yikes.
dustbunnieboo 1 year ago
this was the first scary movie i saw when i was 12..still to this day i remeber all of it..its like a snuff film..it felt so real....
Choirgirlfaerie 1 year ago
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zannapics 1 year ago
@WhoIsBaz Maybe also because Phyllis' parents don't appear in the film. And Mari's parents DO care about Phyllis since they ask Mari what happened to her in that deleted scene.
In the film, as Mari's mum finds the bloody clothes in the killers' suitcase, she hears Krug threatening his own son Junior: "Shut up or you go into the lake with her!" That's how the parents find Mari rather quickly, near the lake. They can't find Phyllis' body since it's been left behind far away from the lake.
writerblaster 1 year ago
When and where did this documentary come from? These interviews were not included in the Region 1 2009 DVD. For example in the commentaries they have the other actors but not the actress who played Phyllis.
Acme633 1 year ago
@WhoIsBaz Phyllis IS mentioned, by her friend Mari, before she gets tortured and raped. She's also mentioned by Mari's parents, in a rare, deleted scene that is visible on youtube.
For your info the lady on this video at 2:00 is Lucy Grantham, the actress who portrays Phyllis. It's so bad she chose not to continue to be an actress afterwards...
writerblaster 1 year ago
Overrated on all levels.
000SMITH000 1 year ago 3
I havent seen the original. I only saw the remake. I liked it. It was a bit akward watching the rape scene though. lol. But is the original worth watching?
mmmmaaaaggggiiii 2 years ago
if ur sensative to rape scene, then the movie is gonna be rough but its worth a watch
buscape54 2 years ago 6
@mmmmaaaaggggiiii the original is 10 times more violent and disturbing than the remake. possibly the most disutrbing but greatest horror film ever made in my opinion
JamesPaganini 2 years ago
really? Im pretty interested in seeing it, lol but im scared im gonna vomit from it. hahaha. Is there a rape scene in the original? if there is, is it worse? Cuz the one on this movie was pretty bad and i cringed alottttttttt... and doesntlike the mom bite of the evil guys penis? :|
mmmmaaaaggggiiii 2 years ago
@mmmmaaaaggggiiii yea there is a rape scene but its suprisingly not as hard to watch as the remake rape scene. But there are some very hard to stomach scenes. Yea the mum does bite of the evil guys penis :) lol
JamesPaganini 2 years ago
@JamesPaganini I agree...maybe the most disturbing horror film ever....just felt too real.
zannapics 1 year ago
i only watched this film because i am a HUGE fan of Sara Paxton, and I agree with other comments, it made me feel horrible!
CookieLoz 2 years ago
I Recently watched the remake of this.
it was good. the rape scene was fair intense.
is it worth me watching wes cravens version?
somone plaese tell me.
and is it rue that this was banned in australia.
it says it is on the front cover.
robbdogga 2 years ago
I saw this one after the remake and it ROCKED! They're a bit different in how they portrait the people and what happens - the remake is more "hollywood", I think (splatter, the lighting, pretty actors etc) and the original feels more like a documentary. In a good, creepy way. I thing there's only one bad thing about this one and it's the two silly cops in it, but I'm guessing they're there to lighten things up. Maybe all this would've been too much to handle back in the seventies without them...
pixelina 2 years ago 2
@pixelina
But do you think the new torture flicks like Saw or hostel live up the graphicness of the original Last House? these new films knew how to rape the senses of a new generation of horror fans to the jugular just like Last House.
Johnlindsey289 2 years ago
In my opinion the original Last House was creepy and horrific just because it felt so real. It was like I was there rather than just watching a movie. Saw, Hostel and the remake of Last House are grosse and unsettling but mainly because they're filled with gore, blood, torture, panic... etc. The original Last House didn't need special effects to make me cringe, the new ones seem to rely on them. But again, that's just my opinion. And even though Saw is grosse, I keep watching the sequels!
pixelina 2 years ago
@pixelina
What's wrong with reflecting 9/11? Saw and Hostel were a response to the soft teen slasher flicks from the 90's such as Scream and stuff. These films weren't tounge in cheek like those, these films were tough, raw and went for the jugular.
A little of it could have been an allegory and reflection of 9/11 and the George Bush era you know. But what is your stand on the remake?
Johnlindsey289 2 years ago
I think you're getting a bit too intellectual on me, so I'll just keep it short.
I liked the remake, it had some surprises and of course modern gore and blood, but also psychological horror - like the rape scene. But as far as the (last three) Saw-films go, I feel they're just meant to shock. And that's okay, I can go for pure shock somedays. But I enjoy a slasher more if there's a reasonable plot to it as well.
pixelina 2 years ago
this movie didnt scare me at all but itz still a good movie
thehorrormaster1011 2 years ago
i saw this as a teen in the seventies and thought it the most terrifying film I'd seen. not scary, but like I was watching something really happening. the actors were so convincing I forgot they were acting. I still watch it to this day and it still is a shocker.
pastel86z 2 years ago 2
only a movie only a movie only a movie LoL
MrNiknik95 2 years ago 4
its only a movie?
sinistersue 2 years ago
that was the start of a rob zombie song at the start hes awesome
xevanescencex4evax 2 years ago 3
the thing that makes both the remake and original horrifying and cringe worthy is the fact that it actually happens, that there are people that crazy and sadistic. the movie is very confronting but all in all it teaches people it can happen to anyone and always be aware of STRANGER DANGER
tracy4jester 2 years ago
Regardless of the movie, I LOVE YOU WES!!!!!!!!!!
xenatikkanen 2 years ago
I DID NOT VBFJHVBHFSBDVAKSDBVGK;
MzPlaygurl 2 years ago
Whether you love this movie, or you hate it, you can't deny that Craven achieved what he was trying to do with this movie.
Deth93 2 years ago
Wes Craven is a genius
I adore his work entirely :)
RealOxidisingAngel 2 years ago 2
I basically adore him! He is vastly underrated as a filmmaker because of some of the subject matter he has chosen (from a commercial standpoint); however, unlike the accolades doled out to Carpenter & especially Romero (both completely justified!), Craven has never been given his proper due. This documentary really emphasizes it. Wes, you're the man!!! I hate that NOES is being remade and probably ruined; I hate that they dissed you & didn't ask you to be a consultant on one of your great works.
xenatikkanen 2 years ago
Techdeathdude1
Yes, the original is supremely sadistic. The remake toned it down...Way Down! The encounter with both girls is as sadistic a scene that you'll see in film.
On top of that, the remake's ending might as well as been done by Disney compared to the original.
shubenagel 2 years ago
So was the 1970's version worse then the 2009 one?
techdeathdude1 2 years ago
I dunno I'm not blaming Wes Craven and I don't understand why people are blaming him.... I know this is a "remake" of an old movie (The virgin spring) but seriously this is his vision and he was doing a horror movie so of course there's gonna be blood all over the place especially with today's criterias of what is an horror movie. Personnaly I think it was good (gore but good) even though it was hard to watch sometimes (and I'm a horror movie addict)...
karmagirl212 2 years ago 2
Wow, what artistic geniuses, having intellectual discussions about girls pissing their pants and disembowelment. Art may be about real things, but this was an exploitation movie created to make money pure and simple. And it isn't even an original idea--its a gross-out remake of an Ingmar Bergman film "The Virgin Spring". Gotta love how the movie that supposedly condemns violence is filled to the brim with every sick act in the book. These guys--now famous--are obviously ashamed of this film.
don4321 2 years ago
The movie is an interpretation of the time in which is was made; it makes you feel filthy and that's the point. It shoves your face in shit and only offends those pretentious enough to think they are above that. It's commentary on the human propensity for violence as a true, driving force of nature. And it wasn't even an original idea when Ingmar Bergman made that movie: "The story is based on a 13th century Swedish ballad named "Töres dotter i Wänge"..." Everything has it's origins.
Frowned 2 years ago
LOLOL!! I love how people are blaming Wes Craven for giving people some sort of trauma, lolz.
It's not like he's having a gun pointing to your head to force you to watch the film in the first place.
Oh please, the real life is much much more WORSE than any horror movie. Reality traumatizes much more, mothers killing their babies, students shooting in schools, rape, everything that we hear in the news is REAL.
I would like to watch this movie, uncut.
NejixHinataFan 2 years ago 12
I would too when i first saw this it did scare me mostly becuase of the beginning where it said it's only a movie, so i was exspecting worse then i got. By worse I mean more gory and violent
melissa3289 2 years ago
why did krug make her take a piss???
Zooroonies 2 years ago
@Zooroonies Because he could?
TheDensley7 1 year ago
This movie is by far the best movie i've seen so far. This movie had me jumping out of my seat lol!! not even the new friday the 13th gave me that effect lol!
72578 2 years ago
who is that woman at 2:02 to 2:20?
Pwnages 2 years ago
that scene is really disturbing.
redbunnyx3x 2 years ago 2
Wes Craven is genious. Truly. Handsome, as well.
iamcasihart 2 years ago 4
Piss your pants?
lol
xXwaverly12Xx 2 years ago
wes craven is a raper
stjo5555 2 years ago
now this is a movie meaning that its fake. now y dont they censor the news i mean it shows school shootins and shit like that thats real. real stuff will affect ppl more then fake stuff
tak000159 2 years ago 3
What a pair of sick bastards!!!
bigart1993 2 years ago
"art is about things that exist " 100% correct
prumott08 2 years ago
I love this movie !
Noizpunk138 2 years ago 2
omg i love sean cunningham!! <3
xxcharmed1xx 2 years ago
his voice is so monotone..
xbeeflakesx 2 years ago
I always have a big problem with exploitation films and most especially ones that feature very violent and graphoc rape. But I'm impressed with Wes Craven here, giving an inciteful and thoughtful over view of the film and why he felt he needed to go to those psychological places, and also reminded the audience that unfortunately these unbearable things do happen, and we are horrified by films like this because those crimes are horrifying. I know because it happened to two separate friends.
embojitsu 2 years ago 2
Sad....embojitsu.
It never happen to my circle of friends
and i don't know what were my reaction
if its about to happen.
Excuse my english,its my third language
Thanx
pewploid 2 years ago
Wait until you see The Unrated 2 which is coming out next Christmas...if you think this one is bad - I heard that one has 5 rape scenes in it!!!!!!!!! FIVE!!!
hyperfilmz 2 years ago
what is the unrated 2?
jjacksonjr31 2 years ago
This is addresed to sneisch below. So, because of the 'unstable' people out there, are you suggesting that films that portray violence, especially sexual violence, should not be shown? I find 'Last House' very difficult to watch but I support it being out there! The whole 'movies cause violence and threaten women' argument etc is totally invalid to anybody who knows anything about history! As a character in Craven's scream says, 'Movies don't make Psychos. Movies make pyscho's more creative!'
carlynorris 2 years ago
I disagree. I started killing after seeing this movie, and I never care about creativity.
boardskins 2 years ago 5
LMFAO!!
MoonFaeries 2 years ago 5
To adamchabbi6 there both the same accept i spit on your was more brutal but besides that there basicly the same accept the rape sceens in i spit on your grave were alot more brutal
GRINDYOURMIND420 2 years ago
last house on the left was better
jjacksonjr31 2 years ago
"As an academic..." what a joke.
This was the most depraved, sick and disgusting "film" I've ever seen. I wanted to find Wes Craven and tell him what I thought of him.
I have to think about how many unstable people saw this film and were then persuaded to do something like this.
Wes Craven is revolting.
snesich 2 years ago
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YES! i totally agree with you! after i saw this movie im like what the FUCK?! how mentally disturbed do u have to b to make a movie like this?! im soo pissed off at the person who made this. he/she needs to get shot and thrown in a ditch. god
Sh00t4themoon 2 years ago
Grow up. Wes portrayed violence as REAL and REPULSIVELY as possible instead of glorifying it, or framing it with casual neglect.
Consider this though: The bad guys get what's coming to them, the innocent are avenged, and the theme of the whole movie is that lying to your parents, fornicating, going to rock and roll shows and doing drugs will bring terrible tragedy to yourself, family and friends... It could almost pass for a bible passage.
razordaze 2 years ago 5
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zannapics 1 year ago
I love how you're blaming Wes for other people's inability to control themselves and their mental illness. Hmm... Maybe we should blame everything that everyone does on movies/music/televisions/video games. You know, never take responsibility for what we do. Or maybe we could keep in mind that no one is holding a gun to our heads making us watch these things and then repeat them. And that people have been doing far worse than what's in this movie way before tv and films were invented.
MoonFaeries 2 years ago 28
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You have a good point I agree with. At the same time, movies etc... have impact on minds. Sometimes people don't think about something until someone else brings it up. Reality as well. You can't say entertainment has no influence on anyone including the mentally ill.
That goes for Positive influence as well.
yeahsee33 2 years ago
I agree, entertainment does have some sort of influence on people for sure. But I don't think it's as extreme as people make it out to be, you know? I don't think a perfectly rational person will see a movie and decide to go on a killing spree. If someone sees something and copy it I'm more than willing to be it's due to mental illness and therefore not the fault of the artist who created the movie/song/tv show, etc.
MoonFaeries 2 years ago 6
Ok, after reading that comment you are completely right. The Artist should get NO blame for their art. A person see's something disturbing then it is their CHOICE to act, and the viewr is solely responsible. That also applies to everyday life. People just need to have moral and common sense. Censorship Sucks!
yeahsee33 2 years ago 7
Thanks. And I agree censorship does suck.
MoonFaeries 2 years ago 5
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I have lived amongst the world of mentally ill for my entire life and have seen that not all of them choose to act the way they do I know this from first hand experience, where did you get your opinion? some book? I've actually SEEN proof contrary to what you are stating
drinkyourtea 2 years ago
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zannapics 1 year ago
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not everyone can control their mental illness I know since I have aspergers and have seen first hand not every person can control themselves
drinkyourtea 2 years ago
I never once said that people with mental illness can control themselves. Where are you getting this?
MoonFaeries 2 years ago 5
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I have a condition considered a mental illness and have been a part of this world for years and people mistakenly quote ALL people with conditions considered to be mental illnesses to be idiots and such I would like it if you would not use such umbrella statements in future as some of us don't like to be referred to in that way
drinkyourtea 2 years ago
Um... you're the one who has made the mistake. Maybe you should go back and read what I typed. You seem to be confused. I never said anything like what you've typed.
MoonFaeries 2 years ago 5
I love how you're blaming Wes for other people's inability to control themselves and their mental illness
drinkyourtea 2 years ago
@MoonFaeries I'll remember that while I skin my mother.
boardskins 1 year ago
@boardskins That's so sweet. :-)
MoonFaeries 1 year ago
@MoonFaeries Exactly
diamond666oo 1 year ago
@MoonFaeries Yeah..Whatever happened to people just being flat out insane?
AceProductions91 9 months ago
I miss people like Wes Craven. He seems to show some kind of remorse for people...whereas Eli Roth seems to get off on torture :/
bloodrunsclear 2 years ago 6
TLHOTL is a great film by Wes Craven, But I prefer David Hess In House On The Edge Of The Park more.
flowersintheatticboy 2 years ago 3
Have you ever sae I Spit One Your Grave kinda like LHOTL the difference is this young woman is renting a summer house when a couple of good oldboys rape her serveal times alot more graphic then last house on the left when she recovers she makes up a plot to kill them one by one and the deaths are more disturbing the the last it stars the guy who played Krug in LHOTL as the main rapest i own both but i spit on your grave is more realestic a broken bottle isput in her cunt there remaking it to
GRINDYOURMIND420 2 years ago
but is last house on the left better or i spit on your grave?
adamchabbi6 2 years ago
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I love the way they get into this deep psychological analysis, as if this was a deep provoking work of art. It was a cheap, exploitive piece of garbage. Wes Craven is a clown. How hard is it to make something gross and violent?
plangentmusic 2 years ago
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Such nonsense, this is a film dated by its silly music, bad acting and ludicrous script as being a period film. It's hard to take seriously. Of course it's only a movie -- so many things happen that wouldn't happen in real life. What mother of a murdered daughter would take her killer's penis in her mouth, EVER? lol... ridiculous
jpgwriter 2 years ago
you're ridiculous.
BrokenLeggBilly 2 years ago
hahaha, nothing like an ad hominem attack to prove your point. Hey, why not try, "So's your mother!" LMAO
jpgwriter 2 years ago
I must be missing something. Wes and Sean make this big deal about trying to find a "complete version" of the film. But theaters get "prints", positives from the original film negative. So why can't they find the original negative? Lost? Destroyed?
tavery80 2 years ago
go to kbmovies.blogspot com and watch this and other new movies
kazookz 2 years ago
One of my favorite movies.
DAVID HESS RULES!!!!!
Koax123 2 years ago
could anyone tell me, if it's worth buying the uncut 3 disc ultimate edition, it's available now in the UK?
adamchabbi6 2 years ago
It certainly is worth buying. :)
DallyWhitty 2 years ago
Holy shit, 6:19 the penis bite. So thats where lorena bobitt got the idea. Except she chopped it off with an instrument instead of biting lol...
piinus 2 years ago
Yeah I know, what the hell was with that?
That's not scary, that's just weird.
She should have bitten off his fingers to make it scary.
TheKidGuitarist 2 years ago
Yeah but the penis bite look more effective bitten by a girl. A guy, on the other hand, is wierd. lol...
piinus 2 years ago 2
The unrated original has been released now on DVD. I imagine it would have all the scenes they talk about. Probably this documentary too.
slpk7 2 years ago
The orginal cut can not be found. The recent DVD versions are about as complete as the film will ever be.
soprano168 2 years ago
This moving has disturbing things in it and the movie itself is an AMAZING idea.
It just wasn't executed very well. Alot of the acting was horrible, the music is laughable, as is some of the movie itself.
It feels more like a comedy at points.
However, the things the movie deals with, and the substance, that makes it a disturbing movie.
I love the remake. It felt nasty like the original should have felt. I just wish they would have left all the scene in having to do with the girls.
lacy19912009 2 years ago 3
well, jeffXedge is right...don't base your opinions, views, or watever that ur feeling towards this movie like that...ur like basing it to the present time...this movie is so brutal for that time...not for this time..so, just back off!!
it wouldn't be banned if it wasnt that brutal...(for their time,not the present)...
well, for the present, it's not much scary...but im scared..thinking of no technology that can help (cellphone) and being in the woods..eeeww...dnt wanna die that way..haha
niwniw 2 years ago
only a movie only a move only a move only a move lmfao!!!
ambersmithlover 2 years ago
before i saw this movie i was veary interested in watching it when i saw " its only a movie " tagline but after watch the movie and now watch the same line i can help but laugh this movie was pretty bad im as in horrible not scary bad i actully laughed at some parts
bigbadwolfy1977 2 years ago
You're missing the point though. When this movie came out no one had really seen anything like this as far as movies go and was one of the most "brutal" things anyone had seen and it caused a huge uproar. Now adays yeah it's kind of cheesy, but back in the day, having never seen anything like this before and living in a time where we didnt see this all the time, it was too intense for some people. So you're just being ignorant to the facts.
jeffXedge 2 years ago 6
your right right about that but you dont have to call me ignorant im just expressing what i see thats all, and i cant help it that im a critic, i mean everyone is even you i bet
bigbadwolfy1977 2 years ago 2
I still think it's pretty brutal for today there's not other movies on rape and based on human brutality
macfb71 2 years ago 5
what u said is true, but dont forget, sexualised violence on celluloid was not too familiar with american audiences, but real life violence was all over american tv during that time, with vietnam, it was the presence of real, media violence that helped push low budget filmakers into making terryfying films such as this and TCM.
harvester87 2 years ago 3
its only a movie yea right
dustinl796 2 years ago
I LOVE how this is based on a true story! Crazy shit!
MissCaptainWeird 2 years ago 2
thats weird. i got the same vibe of Funny Games whem the made that girl pee... anyone kno wt i meen? it's the same kind of movie that makes ur stomache hurt bcuz its really gross how sick people really are. loved Funny Games tho
torii3636 2 years ago
Funny Games US is shit movie.There is nothing scary in that shit movie
crijevitis 2 years ago
NEW ONE = SHIT
cryptopsyamon 2 years ago
wes is a very smart guy
AORMETALGORE 2 years ago
do you think the new one will puss out?
edoublegplant 2 years ago 3
yes
Disastor13 2 years ago
yes
ChuckCoke 2 years ago
I saw the new one tonight. NO IT DOES NOT PUSS OUT! IT IS OFFENSIVE.
steadybeau 2 years ago 2
not sure I am curious enough to see it.
MissCaptainWeird 2 years ago
oh gosh please see it... best movie ever... but it's super gory.
CiRcUsPSHYEA 2 years ago
It "pussed out" to some degree.
There was no "piss ya self" scene or the "d.ick biting" scene.
I think if those scene would have been included, the fulm would have gotten and NC-17 rating.
I would have loved to have seen what they would have done with those scenes, because the movie was executed brilliantly.
I hope there is an unrated cut on DVD with those scenes in it.
lacy19912009 2 years ago
i saw this movie on demand for the first time and it included both of those scenes. of course it doesn't show the dick being bit off, but it was still gross.
truegamer88 2 years ago
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jizz ur pants..............................
AhadVedux84 2 years ago
Hurbingfed, I know the remake is called 'Last House On The Left' I just didn't feel I needed to type the whole title.
12dave9 2 years ago
why do people even bother with all of these remakes? why can't they just leave the old horror movies as they were? but this is just my opinion.
mariakai 2 years ago 4
hes redoin his own movie, so its pretty much him makin a more modern version. Im sure this will be as good as the original. Great song to put w/ the trailer also
kdetroitballa 2 years ago 2
but this was never made so its not old
rety424 2 years ago
yes...it was made before...by wes craven...
kdetroitballa 2 years ago
will its older and this version was made by they
rety424 2 years ago
uh....for more money? that's the obvious answer and to continue the legacy of the classic films
danpats1 2 years ago
The remake is called 'Last House' of course.Another remake from 2 years ago is called 'Chaos'.
12dave9 2 years ago