do u guys know that the song "RING AROUND A ROSIE, POCKET FULL OF POSIES, ASHES, ASHES, WE ALL FALL DOWN" is about the Bubonic Plague (Black death)? Were u guys purposely singing that because you're telling Jackie that she's dead & that everybody dies eventually & must accept death? Or were u guys just naive about the history of the song from the getgo? so which is it? Also, singing 'LONDON BRIDGE'? wtf?? talk about kicking the dead when they're down, geesh
@pseudointellect True. The "ring around the rosie" was a sore. The pocket full of posies (so I heard) was to cover the smell of sickness and death. In the UK instead of saying ashes ashes, the say "achoo" like a sneeze, and some say "a tissue" which doesn't make sense because the didn't have tissues back then. I think the ashes part might be kind of obvious.
@Christiansoldier dude I'm a christian and I believe in ghosts, and believe me I know because I experienced it myself, I had a ghost in my house and I called him "The Black Hooded Man", he's gone now I hope but not everything that is spirit wise is a fallen angel or demon, yes there are those but there are souls who havent yet been judged to either go to heaven or hell yet, and no im not talking about pergatory, that's bull crap
I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK DURING THIS SAMPLING THE GHOST APPEARS CLEARLY WHERE 1 OF UR CREW MEMBER IS SITTING WAS IT A GHOST OR HE IS 1 OF UR CREW MEMBER HE WASN'T THERE WHOLE VIDEO BUT FOR SOME TIME.STARTS EXCATLY AT 2:00 WATCH CLEARFULLY
I went to the Queen Mary tonight actually and my friend and I somehow ended up having a huge conversation. Poor Jackie.. My friend and I were the youngest so I can see why Jackie was comfortable (as far as i know) with us. She told us everything. This little girl should have gotten a chance to live!
Arguing about what this is, what it isn't, demons, angels, "hungry ghosts', etc, is pointless and a waste of air. We don't know for sure what's going on with ANY "ghost" so just watch the show and stop fighting.
@Christiansoldier, so, your willing to believe this is a fallen Angel if we are to accept there is a spirit here at all but your not willing to accept that people have souls that are immortal and this could be the soul of a child? How do you know this child simply has not crossed over? I've investigated on the Queen Mary for years and have not once encountered a malicous spirit or anything that would be considered a demon.
A fallen angel, in Jewish, Christian and Islamic mythology, is an angel who has been exiled or banished from Heaven. Often such banishment is a punishment for disobeying or rebelling against God (see War in Heaven).
I don't trust KII meters as they can be effected by the key buttons on two way radios and walkie talkies and someone could have been manipulating them. But as to the question would a Child of the 20th century know this song? Of course, why not? I am from the 20th century and they sang this song when I was in grammar school for crying out loud.
Origins of "Ring around the rosy" in English History Connections to the Bubonic Plague (Black Death). The words to the Ring around the rosy children's ring game have their origin in English history . The historical period dates back to the Great Plague of London in 1665 (bubonic plague) or even before when the first outbreak of the Plague hit England in the 1300's.
The symptoms of the plague included a rosy red rash in the shape of a ring on the skin (Ring around the rosy). Pockets and pouches were filled with sweet smelling herbs ( or posies) which were carried due to the belief that the disease was transmitted by bad smells. .
The term "Ashes Ashes" refers to the cremation of the dead bodies! The death rate was over 60% and the plague was only halted by the Great Fire of London in 1666 which killed the rats which carried the disease which was transmitting via water sources. The English version of "Ring around the rosy" replaces Ashes with (A-tishoo, A-tishoo) as violent sneezing was another symptom of the disease
@linclinc5 how would the song be relevant to you then. Your clearly not from the time of the plague. Or perhaps your a time traveler is that it? This is a childs song that has been around for ages. Good chance, if this is a childs spirit she may have heard it or be familiar with it.
Look, maybe you are genuine, I don't know, but as soon as you include those two disgraced charlatans Grant and Jason your credibility is shot and nothing you record can be trusted.
To all those people that think they are supposed to be hearing something your not gonna be hearing anything,look at the blinking light on the kil meter it blinks to the beat of the music and that is how jackie communicates with them.
Yes- I know the video work sucks, thank you for pointing that out. (I had NEVER taken video prior to this one- ever) That's why I don't shoot video anymore- I just stick to what I am good at- which is stills and EVP's.
Jackie does communicate quite often with many people (documented) some I know personally, some I've heard of. Like most spirits, if they feel comfortable with someone - they will communicate.
the other group said she (jackie) hadn't talked to anyone since james 19 years ago. I find that hard to believe. why would she wait, its whether she feels comfortable with those who are trying to communicate with her. it must be terribly scary for a child and confusing being stuck there waiting for her family, if that is what she's doing. I didn't hear her say a thing in this vid, have to listen again I guess, I had no idea they went back to the queen mary after they did a show there. hmm
Good video, but I would have to say that this is some of the worst camera work I have ever seen. Half the video is just a shot of either the open air, ground aiming at nothing, or aiming at peoples knees. All the action on the meter is happening and someone is aiming up into space. instead of at the meter. Who does that? Try keeping the camera on what counts. The video would be at least watchable that way.
First, I have never faked anything ever and have no reason to start. Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson were there and giving us direction - you can hear Jason suggest to singi ring around the rosey because he has 3 daughters. You hear Grant say "whoa" at the end. Even Britt Griffith was in attendance. It was real. They were there. I filmed it. End of story.
@SharonJourneyPS sharon, I just had some freak tell me now, what a year later, that Jackie is a fallen angel, im stupid because I don't know that. He or she says, why would a child act this way. Between us believers and those who are so afraid that they insist these voices and spirits just have to be demons, Doesn't it drive you nuts these comments? I had forgotten this one, thank you for putting it out there. I would love for Peter James to come through to his closest friends they keep trying
Lodon bridge falling down means something..
Ilikepie37sBrother 1 month ago
do u guys know that the song "RING AROUND A ROSIE, POCKET FULL OF POSIES, ASHES, ASHES, WE ALL FALL DOWN" is about the Bubonic Plague (Black death)? Were u guys purposely singing that because you're telling Jackie that she's dead & that everybody dies eventually & must accept death? Or were u guys just naive about the history of the song from the getgo? so which is it? Also, singing 'LONDON BRIDGE'? wtf?? talk about kicking the dead when they're down, geesh
pseudointellect 2 months ago
@pseudointellect
They did it in the 70's of killing people,
I think
Ilikepie37sBrother 1 month ago
@pseudointellect True. The "ring around the rosie" was a sore. The pocket full of posies (so I heard) was to cover the smell of sickness and death. In the UK instead of saying ashes ashes, the say "achoo" like a sneeze, and some say "a tissue" which doesn't make sense because the didn't have tissues back then. I think the ashes part might be kind of obvious.
Brennna 1 month ago
@Christiansoldier dude I'm a christian and I believe in ghosts, and believe me I know because I experienced it myself, I had a ghost in my house and I called him "The Black Hooded Man", he's gone now I hope but not everything that is spirit wise is a fallen angel or demon, yes there are those but there are souls who havent yet been judged to either go to heaven or hell yet, and no im not talking about pergatory, that's bull crap
MPandaSauce2 3 months ago
Who was that guy in the right corner?!
Bribriest 4 months ago
@Junaid5501 - that was a security guard.
SharonJourneyPS 4 months ago
I'M NOT SURE BUT I THINK DURING THIS SAMPLING THE GHOST APPEARS CLEARLY WHERE 1 OF UR CREW MEMBER IS SITTING WAS IT A GHOST OR HE IS 1 OF UR CREW MEMBER HE WASN'T THERE WHOLE VIDEO BUT FOR SOME TIME.STARTS EXCATLY AT 2:00 WATCH CLEARFULLY
junaid5501 5 months ago
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junaid5501 5 months ago
@CHRISTIANSOLDIER101 According to your faith they should have just not tampered with it (Not ask it anything), you're contradicting your beliefs :P.
KounterFitDubNBass 6 months ago
I went to the Queen Mary tonight actually and my friend and I somehow ended up having a huge conversation. Poor Jackie.. My friend and I were the youngest so I can see why Jackie was comfortable (as far as i know) with us. She told us everything. This little girl should have gotten a chance to live!
OhHeyImHanna 6 months ago
Arguing about what this is, what it isn't, demons, angels, "hungry ghosts', etc, is pointless and a waste of air. We don't know for sure what's going on with ANY "ghost" so just watch the show and stop fighting.
Kovarr 7 months ago
@Christiansoldier, so, your willing to believe this is a fallen Angel if we are to accept there is a spirit here at all but your not willing to accept that people have souls that are immortal and this could be the soul of a child? How do you know this child simply has not crossed over? I've investigated on the Queen Mary for years and have not once encountered a malicous spirit or anything that would be considered a demon.
Ranchghost 1 year ago
@Christiansoldier
A fallen angel, in Jewish, Christian and Islamic mythology, is an angel who has been exiled or banished from Heaven. Often such banishment is a punishment for disobeying or rebelling against God (see War in Heaven).
SharonJourneyPS 8 months ago
@Christiansoldier
I NEVER said Jackie was a fallen angel- see above.
SharonJourneyPS 8 months ago
I don't trust KII meters as they can be effected by the key buttons on two way radios and walkie talkies and someone could have been manipulating them. But as to the question would a Child of the 20th century know this song? Of course, why not? I am from the 20th century and they sang this song when I was in grammar school for crying out loud.
Ranchghost 1 year ago
@Ranchghost
Origins of "Ring around the rosy" in English History Connections to the Bubonic Plague (Black Death). The words to the Ring around the rosy children's ring game have their origin in English history . The historical period dates back to the Great Plague of London in 1665 (bubonic plague) or even before when the first outbreak of the Plague hit England in the 1300's.
SharonJourneyPS 8 months ago
@RanchGhost
The symptoms of the plague included a rosy red rash in the shape of a ring on the skin (Ring around the rosy). Pockets and pouches were filled with sweet smelling herbs ( or posies) which were carried due to the belief that the disease was transmitted by bad smells. .
SharonJourneyPS 8 months ago
@Ranchghost
The term "Ashes Ashes" refers to the cremation of the dead bodies! The death rate was over 60% and the plague was only halted by the Great Fire of London in 1666 which killed the rats which carried the disease which was transmitting via water sources. The English version of "Ring around the rosy" replaces Ashes with (A-tishoo, A-tishoo) as violent sneezing was another symptom of the disease
SharonJourneyPS 8 months ago
@linclinc5 how would the song be relevant to you then. Your clearly not from the time of the plague. Or perhaps your a time traveler is that it? This is a childs song that has been around for ages. Good chance, if this is a childs spirit she may have heard it or be familiar with it.
Ranchghost 1 year ago
Look, maybe you are genuine, I don't know, but as soon as you include those two disgraced charlatans Grant and Jason your credibility is shot and nothing you record can be trusted.
linclinc5 1 year ago
OMG! I heard Jackie respond to the woman saying "Do you want us to sing again?" the second time! OMG!
atticusjackson100 1 year ago
this would be more interesting if a 3 headed demon with wings came out and dragged you away while singing lullaby’s. Otherwise this is dumb.
FreeLanceArizona 1 year ago
To all those people that think they are supposed to be hearing something your not gonna be hearing anything,look at the blinking light on the kil meter it blinks to the beat of the music and that is how jackie communicates with them.
LovedbyKenubus 1 year ago
@georgemacias they are singing to her because she is responding more to them singing.
LovedbyKenubus 1 year ago
I cant even hear Jackie speaking.
AUSSIEGIRL2496 1 year ago
@AUSSIEGIRL2496
If you read what I wrote - " Jackie communicated and even "sings" by using a KII meter"
She INTERACTS and COMMUNICATES via the KII Meter.
I never mentioned audiable sounds.
SharonJourneyPS 1 year ago
BTW - Jason & Grant were there as part of a Darkness Radio event in 2007.
SharonJourneyPS 2 years ago
@SharonJourneyPS ...................and Sharon....it's...... ring a ring of roses ( indicates a wreath for the dead)
a pocket full of posies ( flowers carried in the pocket to ward off the plague)
atishoo atishoo ( sneezing - the first symptom of the plague)
we all fall down ( self explanatory )
It was a song from England at the time of the Bubonic Plague in the 17th century.
Why it would be relevant to a 'ghost' on a ship that was built in the 20th century only you know I suppose.
linclinc5 1 year ago
Thanks for all the comments.
Yes- I know the video work sucks, thank you for pointing that out. (I had NEVER taken video prior to this one- ever) That's why I don't shoot video anymore- I just stick to what I am good at- which is stills and EVP's.
Jackie does communicate quite often with many people (documented) some I know personally, some I've heard of. Like most spirits, if they feel comfortable with someone - they will communicate.
SharonJourneyPS 2 years ago
the other group said she (jackie) hadn't talked to anyone since james 19 years ago. I find that hard to believe. why would she wait, its whether she feels comfortable with those who are trying to communicate with her. it must be terribly scary for a child and confusing being stuck there waiting for her family, if that is what she's doing. I didn't hear her say a thing in this vid, have to listen again I guess, I had no idea they went back to the queen mary after they did a show there. hmm
zandj710 2 years ago
Good video, but I would have to say that this is some of the worst camera work I have ever seen. Half the video is just a shot of either the open air, ground aiming at nothing, or aiming at peoples knees. All the action on the meter is happening and someone is aiming up into space. instead of at the meter. Who does that? Try keeping the camera on what counts. The video would be at least watchable that way.
myjeffery 2 years ago
i cant hear anything....im sorry. :( maybe is there a way you can enhance the sound so its easier to hear it?
i honsetly dont think its fake...jackie seems very vocal. :)
Megamochacoffee 2 years ago
First, I have never faked anything ever and have no reason to start. Jason Hawes and Grant Wilson were there and giving us direction - you can hear Jason suggest to singi ring around the rosey because he has 3 daughters. You hear Grant say "whoa" at the end. Even Britt Griffith was in attendance. It was real. They were there. I filmed it. End of story.
SharonJourneyPS 2 years ago
@SharonJourneyPS sharon, I just had some freak tell me now, what a year later, that Jackie is a fallen angel, im stupid because I don't know that. He or she says, why would a child act this way. Between us believers and those who are so afraid that they insist these voices and spirits just have to be demons, Doesn't it drive you nuts these comments? I had forgotten this one, thank you for putting it out there. I would love for Peter James to come through to his closest friends they keep trying
zandj710 1 year ago
FREAKY!!
mscandytheflyinghero 2 years ago
@mscandytheflyinghero damn right its freaky!
SCALAMANDRE3 2 years ago