Dude why are all you ppl hating. Since i have experience with trolls like you guys, you don't even have videos on youtube. Make them and you will understand how hard it is to make this shit. Even an 3d simulation and all that video editing takes about 9 hours to make. Stop trolling -.-
The "Smoking Thunderhog F4" was the best Fighter in the World at the time.It had
17lbs of thrust per engine very very reliable.However the failure to put a Cannon in it's Nose was a very grave mistake.Pilots kill ratios would have shot up,if they had not been so reliant on unreliable Air to Air missiles.
I was an english detached pilot and oe of the first to fly an F-4 in combat eveafter the years I still consider it the ride of my life and would hear no critisism of that fine airplane. Come on all now geriatric F-4 jock counter the critisism. Any od my old buddies still kicking? Ghostrider was my call
@goodgirlable1 You're right,Su-22 don't really look like a mig-21,except for the intake,and there they look different. I wonder why he didn't use a mig model the simulated scenes?
How the hell could Vietnam have been a threat to the US. We should never have gone there. We are doing the same shit now in other distant lands. War is murder, and just because a powerfreak nation calls somebody an enemy doesn't make it so.
@apeshitdig i could say we haven't been attacked for a good reason how about you. whats your excuse for not being attacked some kind of god shield. lol
@datzfast I don't believe in God, only love. BTW I am willing to fight to the death for my country, when necessary. The wars in Iraq and Afganistan, have created more hate for the US. I believe it makes us more likely to come under attack. There's two ways to win these wars. Walk away, or nuke them all.
Dude, read your history books. it was about stopping the spread of Communism. That political system that takes everyone individualism, pride, motivation and freedom! It was about protecting the FREE South. Remember president JFK "let every nation know whether it wishes ill or well, that we will bear any burden, support any friend, opposes any foe to ensure freedom and liberty throughout the world." There are things worth fighting for. Stop being a whiny mambie pambie. Take up a cause.
@rstoud "Ensure freedom and liberty" by killing people? Sorry dude, I'm a Vietnamese and I'm proud that I'm a Communist, and that I know how my people feel about the US Army, they're just murderer, nothing more. And tell your f*cking president dumbass JFK that: We don't need you and your war, you piece of shit. Peaceful? Freedom? Sorry but there aren't any freedom when your Army start a war here. Anyway, it history, can't we leave it there and head for the future???
@rstoud Your are an ignorant idiot - I am american, and I know that the war was total BS and the US does not follow its own fucking policies. At the same time we were facilitating genocide in latin america and toppling democratically elected governments because they nationalised an american corporation's assets (case in point, Guatemala coup because they started land reform and it threatened united fruit corporation). (case in point - Chile because of Anaconda copper and ITT) (Al salvador etc)
@Obscurosphere Hey moron, YOU´RE the ignorant and idiot. "You know that thw war was total BS". You dont know nothing about anything retard. Shut your dirty mouth off and do not sat BS like that anymore SOB.
@NPMCaptain You are also obviously childish/uneducated because you feel you need to insult anyone who provided information contrary to your narrow point of view. Go get an education.
@NPMCaptain Yes, because when you claim you have a degree on the internet it MUST be true! If it is CU should be ashamed of producing a graduate who rants like you on youtube while claiming a degree. If it is not true CU has still just been tarnished.
@Obscurosphere Yeah like i told before U R just a moron hang on overhere saying BS, like zillions.
CU was tarnished when your "bro - you can - but they don´t do" was ... OMG there. BTW: when you claim you "know that the war was total BS and the US does not follow" - it MUST be true !!!
@Rebphoenix P.S. I'm well aware of the billions $ war makes for "people." That's the motive for war, Eisenhower warned us of this when he left office after WW2. The war industry took over and used psychology + fear/terror to brain wash the masses!
AMERICA LOST VIETNAM WAR BECAUSE OF ITS BIASED MEDIA!!!
Since anti-war, liberal American media always focused on American and Vietnamese civilian casualties, and ignored the enemy's casualties and Vietcong's atrocities against its own people as in the case of Hue's massacre of 5000 civilians in 1968, to mislead Americans to become against Vietnam war. Ho chi Minh, founder of Vietnam's communist party once said, " the war is not decided in Vietnam's battle fields but in CBS studio!"
Yeah the F-4 Phantom might have been THE airplane at the time of Viet Nam, but those smart assholes in Washing D.C. did not think that this airplane needed guns, they were proven wrong on a LOT of occassions, especially when the Sidewinders and the Sparrows did not do well in the heat of Viet nam, something the engineers of the missiles did not think about.
last comment for now: we now have the right strategy, right tactics and right mindset to actually win a friggin war for once in Iraq and Afghanistan, depending on if we can also get the Pakis to stop helping Taliban and Al Qaeda, since Pakistan founded the Taliban. Reference the Soviet invasion of 1979 and war following for details, Osama bin Laden also once was on OUR side then.
America mainly lost the war by using conventional tactics against an unconventional foe, that along with the long drawn out war sapped morale back home, they basically were not allowed to win or hold territory, the enemy maintained large sanctuaries in Laos and Cambodia that were off-limits to ground invasion. Basically the war was unwinnable as we fought it, much as Iraq was until we learned how to fight unconventionally too. :)
Before the F4 Phantom was developed, Mig 17s and 21s raised hell with our F105 Thunderchief fighterbombers, the famed Thud, so the F4 was trotted out to replace it as the main frontline fighter, the F105 was then used mainly for bombing.
F111 was a fighter/bomber as was F4, but F4 was the main workhorse as a fighter, our fighter pilots were over reliant on missiles and not taught gunfighting skills, which Top Gun was instituted to correct.
I thought the F-111 was the most advanced fighter used in Vietnam. I may be mistaken but I thought it was the only supersonic capable fighter at just above ground level. At least that is what a USAF F-111 jockey told me and he used that to evade SAMs.
1 of 6 missiles worked , how frustrating would it have been to be a pilot in that situation. I would have been cursing the incompetent desk jockey that designed those fine munitions. Paint ball guns would have been more effective than those useless missiles.
I never saw a picture of a Vietnam era MiG-17 or MiG-21 with chaff or flare dispensers??? They had little in the way of ECM. You didn't see them on Russian choppers until Stingers started bringing them down in Afghanistan.
LOMAC does not have a MiG-21 the engine. I had to make use of the Su-22 fitter instead...
If I had better resources I would have used an actual MiG-21 Fishbed aircraft model and an F-4 Phantom cockpit...but I simply did not have the time...
Thankfully my history teacher is not an airplane buff and didn't notice the difference. I got an A regardless!
boolshets propaganda cia .usa 4500 loose airs and helikopters in vietna 1500 its combatair .vietnam lose 150 mig
zoran3119 2 months ago
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nindoda 7 months ago
Wtf was that
fuck4freei 7 months ago
Dude why are all you ppl hating. Since i have experience with trolls like you guys, you don't even have videos on youtube. Make them and you will understand how hard it is to make this shit. Even an 3d simulation and all that video editing takes about 9 hours to make. Stop trolling -.-
puggypigeon 8 months ago
This is from "Dogfights," isn't it...
Ninjastripy 8 months ago
1:53 epic fail
jakicevic 9 months ago
fuck this video its totally fakeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.........
10mism 9 months ago
@10mism It's not supposed to look reallllllllllllllllllllllllllll.............
Ninjastripy 8 months ago
WTF!!! The mig 21 had a delta wing - like a triangle. The airplane you have more looks like the mig 23 with wings that can be adjusted in shape.
RurickTheGreat 11 months ago
you can see its fake this video ... i agree with rstoud
socomsix19 1 year ago
0:22 F-15 cockpit did you use LOMAC I woud have used wings over viet nam
upyr1 1 year ago
0:22 F-15 cockpit
upyr1 1 year ago
wow is this real Vietnam air war? it looks like these air war belong to the U.S.A
BabyBBB01 1 year ago
Be a little more expressive in your next video. Not a huge criticism but just sound more interested in your video
moomoo1337 1 year ago
Everyone, there was no option to simulate a MiG-21 so I instead used the Su-17
Nightsd01 1 year ago
@Nightsd01 You did the beginning using orbit?
Doomemperor1 18 hours ago
The "Smoking Thunderhog F4" was the best Fighter in the World at the time.It had
17lbs of thrust per engine very very reliable.However the failure to put a Cannon in it's Nose was a very grave mistake.Pilots kill ratios would have shot up,if they had not been so reliant on unreliable Air to Air missiles.
flanneryged 1 year ago
wow, the pilot was so young :D
teacafee 1 year ago
I was an english detached pilot and oe of the first to fly an F-4 in combat eveafter the years I still consider it the ride of my life and would hear no critisism of that fine airplane. Come on all now geriatric F-4 jock counter the critisism. Any od my old buddies still kicking? Ghostrider was my call
ghostrider1944 1 year ago
@ghostrider1944 If you were a real f4 pilot that's awesome I salute you and thank you for serving our country.
GKris1989 1 year ago
this remembers me on times, where I paint a carton like a rocket and take seat inside. This were times...
LunaticQuutamo 2 years ago
Is that a 3D movie ?
cooperdude2009 2 years ago
hahah Su-22/M4 never fought in vietnam
goodgirlable1 2 years ago 8
@goodgirlable1 You're right,Su-22 don't really look like a mig-21,except for the intake,and there they look different. I wonder why he didn't use a mig model the simulated scenes?
jay55also 4 weeks ago
Run Charlie!
SouthernRebeler 2 years ago
The graphic is the game LOMAC (very good game)
But in the LOMAC both planes, F-4 and Mig-21 are not playable, so when their shows a cookpit graphic is a f-15 cookpit....
and the graphic plane is a SU-17, not a Mig-21...
JosephMairink 2 years ago
That graphic is not a mig 21...its a swingwing aircraft, which the mig-21 certainly is not
popceed 2 years ago
What game is it ?
And BTW i may be wrong but at 2:19 its not an mig 21
bojo21nes 2 years ago
How the hell could Vietnam have been a threat to the US. We should never have gone there. We are doing the same shit now in other distant lands. War is murder, and just because a powerfreak nation calls somebody an enemy doesn't make it so.
apeshitdig 2 years ago 14
@apeshitdig i could say we haven't been attacked for a good reason how about you. whats your excuse for not being attacked some kind of god shield. lol
datzfast 1 year ago
@datzfast I don't believe in God, only love. BTW I am willing to fight to the death for my country, when necessary. The wars in Iraq and Afganistan, have created more hate for the US. I believe it makes us more likely to come under attack. There's two ways to win these wars. Walk away, or nuke them all.
apeshitdig 1 year ago
@apeshitdig wow talk about sidestepping the question some one blows up a skyscraper with planes and you want to forgive them or nuke them.
datzfast 1 year ago
@datzfast Perpetuate the war forever then. Stop talking to me.
apeshitdig 1 year ago
Dude, read your history books. it was about stopping the spread of Communism. That political system that takes everyone individualism, pride, motivation and freedom! It was about protecting the FREE South. Remember president JFK "let every nation know whether it wishes ill or well, that we will bear any burden, support any friend, opposes any foe to ensure freedom and liberty throughout the world." There are things worth fighting for. Stop being a whiny mambie pambie. Take up a cause.
rstoud 1 year ago
@rstoud "Ensure freedom and liberty" by killing people? Sorry dude, I'm a Vietnamese and I'm proud that I'm a Communist, and that I know how my people feel about the US Army, they're just murderer, nothing more. And tell your f*cking president dumbass JFK that: We don't need you and your war, you piece of shit. Peaceful? Freedom? Sorry but there aren't any freedom when your Army start a war here. Anyway, it history, can't we leave it there and head for the future???
doremonhg 10 months ago
@rstoud Your are an ignorant idiot - I am american, and I know that the war was total BS and the US does not follow its own fucking policies. At the same time we were facilitating genocide in latin america and toppling democratically elected governments because they nationalised an american corporation's assets (case in point, Guatemala coup because they started land reform and it threatened united fruit corporation). (case in point - Chile because of Anaconda copper and ITT) (Al salvador etc)
Obscurosphere 8 months ago
@Obscurosphere Hey moron, YOU´RE the ignorant and idiot. "You know that thw war was total BS". You dont know nothing about anything retard. Shut your dirty mouth off and do not sat BS like that anymore SOB.
NPMCaptain 7 months ago
@NPMCaptain You are also obviously childish/uneducated because you feel you need to insult anyone who provided information contrary to your narrow point of view. Go get an education.
Obscurosphere 7 months ago
@Obscurosphere Got a lot of education, MORON. College degree, MBA and PHD at Chicago University.
Back to fundamental school and try learn something about anything IDIOT.
NPMCaptain 7 months ago
@NPMCaptain Yes, because when you claim you have a degree on the internet it MUST be true! If it is CU should be ashamed of producing a graduate who rants like you on youtube while claiming a degree. If it is not true CU has still just been tarnished.
Obscurosphere 6 months ago
@Obscurosphere Yeah like i told before U R just a moron hang on overhere saying BS, like zillions.
CU was tarnished when your "bro - you can - but they don´t do" was ... OMG there. BTW: when you claim you "know that the war was total BS and the US does not follow" - it MUST be true !!!
Back to school idiot (but a good one).
NPMCaptain 6 months ago
@apeshitdig It's all about money man, war is a business just like everything else. Profit rules the world.
Rebphoenix 7 months ago 4
@Rebphoenix Thank you with love, enjoy your life that's what's it for:-)
apeshitdig 7 months ago
@Rebphoenix P.S. I'm well aware of the billions $ war makes for "people." That's the motive for war, Eisenhower warned us of this when he left office after WW2. The war industry took over and used psychology + fear/terror to brain wash the masses!
apeshitdig 7 months ago
@apeshitdig Very true! Eisenhower was one of the good guys.
Rebphoenix 7 months ago 2
u SS army
wymarooh 2 years ago
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AMERICA LOST VIETNAM WAR BECAUSE OF ITS BIASED MEDIA!!!
Since anti-war, liberal American media always focused on American and Vietnamese civilian casualties, and ignored the enemy's casualties and Vietcong's atrocities against its own people as in the case of Hue's massacre of 5000 civilians in 1968, to mislead Americans to become against Vietnam war. Ho chi Minh, founder of Vietnam's communist party once said, " the war is not decided in Vietnam's battle fields but in CBS studio!"
TOMP66666 2 years ago
Yeah the F-4 Phantom might have been THE airplane at the time of Viet Nam, but those smart assholes in Washing D.C. did not think that this airplane needed guns, they were proven wrong on a LOT of occassions, especially when the Sidewinders and the Sparrows did not do well in the heat of Viet nam, something the engineers of the missiles did not think about.
FWW7450 2 years ago 2
last comment for now: we now have the right strategy, right tactics and right mindset to actually win a friggin war for once in Iraq and Afghanistan, depending on if we can also get the Pakis to stop helping Taliban and Al Qaeda, since Pakistan founded the Taliban. Reference the Soviet invasion of 1979 and war following for details, Osama bin Laden also once was on OUR side then.
MasterAceman123456 2 years ago
yeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar bomb them kike mo foes yeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaar......kike fucks
MrLittlejonnie 2 years ago
America mainly lost the war by using conventional tactics against an unconventional foe, that along with the long drawn out war sapped morale back home, they basically were not allowed to win or hold territory, the enemy maintained large sanctuaries in Laos and Cambodia that were off-limits to ground invasion. Basically the war was unwinnable as we fought it, much as Iraq was until we learned how to fight unconventionally too. :)
MasterAceman123456 2 years ago
Before the F4 Phantom was developed, Mig 17s and 21s raised hell with our F105 Thunderchief fighterbombers, the famed Thud, so the F4 was trotted out to replace it as the main frontline fighter, the F105 was then used mainly for bombing.
MasterAceman123456 2 years ago
the thud was always a fighter bomber buddy
LexusFman 2 years ago
F111 was a fighter/bomber as was F4, but F4 was the main workhorse as a fighter, our fighter pilots were over reliant on missiles and not taught gunfighting skills, which Top Gun was instituted to correct.
MasterAceman123456 2 years ago
I thought the F-111 was the most advanced fighter used in Vietnam. I may be mistaken but I thought it was the only supersonic capable fighter at just above ground level. At least that is what a USAF F-111 jockey told me and he used that to evade SAMs.
exenrontexas 2 years ago
Every pilot flies the most advanced fighter of any time. I fly a Champ, it too is the most advanced aircraft of its time. :D
fight2flyphoto 2 years ago
1 of 6 missiles worked , how frustrating would it have been to be a pilot in that situation. I would have been cursing the incompetent desk jockey that designed those fine munitions. Paint ball guns would have been more effective than those useless missiles.
WileeC 2 years ago
Your video looks a lot like an episode of DogFights on the History channel.
RedAlien79 2 years ago
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Russiannweapons help to defeat USA in vietnam,korea,iraq,afganistan,elsalvador,nicaragua,cuba etc....
canellosutton 2 years ago
Sure they did!
elmaschingondodger 2 years ago
I never saw a picture of a Vietnam era MiG-17 or MiG-21 with chaff or flare dispensers??? They had little in the way of ECM. You didn't see them on Russian choppers until Stingers started bringing them down in Afghanistan.
YakAV8R 2 years ago
that was a fucking su17 fitter
halonsoxx 3 years ago
And you're a fucking idiot who needs to read previous commends, cunt bag.
Snappletek 3 years ago
fuck u idiot my balls whit anything u say, but that was a fuking su17 fitter
halonsoxx 3 years ago
well F*$# my nipples that was interesting. KB & Ivan were such dramatic actors...
Axl3121 3 years ago 2
You should have used the game Wings over Vietnam insted!Is has both the F-4 with cockpit and the Mig-21.
Markiatoo 3 years ago
LOMAC does not have a MiG-21 the engine. I had to make use of the Su-22 fitter instead...
If I had better resources I would have used an actual MiG-21 Fishbed aircraft model and an F-4 Phantom cockpit...but I simply did not have the time...
Thankfully my history teacher is not an airplane buff and didn't notice the difference. I got an A regardless!
Thanks for the nice comments though.
Nightsd01 4 years ago
@Nightsd01 Should have used thirdwires 'nam flight simulator
snakevenom56 1 year ago
the russian aircraft in the animation is a Su-22 Fitter
Bottlekiller 4 years ago
That's not the vienamese emblem!!!!
GiantMing 4 years ago
you're right!!! the aircraft that he used in this video were Czech, Russian, and Polish. All are operators of the MiG aircraft.
pilotperson 3 years ago
That was an F-15 cockpit, looks like LOMAC
fpere006 4 years ago
This is really bad
jaehkimx 4 years ago
this is horrible
kesegy 4 years ago
shit.. that wasn't even a mig-21. that was a sukoi 22.
rafaquintana 4 years ago
omg what a kiddy fake crap...
Scorpac 4 years ago