beating the grocery store price is a pretty low standard. That stuff is devoid of nutrition and rife with toxins. Include the money youll never make because the agricultural business took away your family farm, the cost of global warming and the health care you cant afford that cheap food is actually quit expensive. also the government subsidizes the agribusinesses so the are many cost hidden. Its only to easy to ignore cause were on a budget but freedom isnt free it cost $0.08 per kilowatt!
@hogo1 you paid $1 for a pepper. but you also had to get an education, buy a car, travel to work everyday, finance a house, pay taxes, and many other associated cost in order to earn that pepper. By growing food a person can live in a housde they built themselves on land they own using power they make. While you may not want to live that way many people will soon have no choice. Besides after the recession what about the next recession and the one after that and the one after. this is retirement
Hey, I've just started getting in interest in hydroponic/aeroponics and I was wondering how cost efficiant it all is compared to buying the food you can grow yourself from a grocery store? What I mean is, after you've bought all the equipment (the pump, the lights, the nutrients etc.) and the amount of electricity needed to power the pump and the lights, is it cheaper, the same, or more expensive to do this in the long run as opposed to just buying the products from a grocery store?
@JerryOHsu Jerry, growing leafy greens an herbs can only be made cost effective under artificial lighting using multilayer production and through significant scale and process improvements. Basically to bring the cost down below grocery store prices you have to grow much more like a commercial producer than a hobby produces. Flowering fruits of any kind are not cost effective. Now that doesnt mean that there aren't benifits of health, taste, free of pesticides ect...
@JerryOHsu As an example I grow basil under artificicial lighting for sale to a local restaraunt....It costs me about $3 per week in electricity and $1 per week in fertilizer and water to grow about $10 worth of basil but to achieve this I have to grow much more basil than I could ever use.
To get cost effective production of flowering fruits you will need to go into backyard or greenhouse hydroponics to take advantage of the free lighting :)
That's a really cool setup! How many LED lights did you use for that system? I haven't tried using LEDs yet that's why I am really curious to know what results can I get from them. Are they really worth using for hydroponics growing?
@lovingmygarden It all depends on your crop and your budget, but yes LEDs can grow lots of great things. We just got done doing a Roma Tomato grow under LEDS
Awesome set up man! Very professional. when you said aeroponic and hydroponic, does that mean you have a fogger in the box and sprayers directed at the roots in the same system? and how do you circulate the fog, do you just put an air pump inside the box with the humidifier?
Yes one system had both sprayers and Fog and the other had only sprayers. The fog was pumped in from the top on the far end and since the whole rail was angled the fog naturally flowed down the rail. I am sure a fan blowing into the rail could have caused the rails to fill even more with fog. I have however moved away from using fog in anything but propagation systems purely for simplicity sake.
I beg to differ. I have sucessfully grown: Romain Lettuce, Bibb lettuce, Spinach, Cucumbers, Bush beans, Polebeans, Jalapenos, Thia peppers, Thai basil, Lemon Basil, Cilantro, Genovese Basil, Rosemary, and Chives using LED.
@ProZachJ Successfully grown doesn't necessarily mean your yields were as high as they would've been had you used other lights. Also most of the plants you grew will "successfully grow" in crappy soil and a sunny window. Do a comparison using some fluoro, HPS, or MH lights, and get some results before you beg to differ.
what does the black tube in the fogponic system do exactly? I assume the fog just drops from the fog box down into your two chambers... or does the fog travel down the tube to the far end of the chambers and then enter?
the black tube refills the fogbox with fresh nutrients every time the aeroponic sprayers turn on. Plus it makes a really easy way to drain the reservoir when it comes time to do a nutrient change.
Both are on the same spray cycle. Foggers run 24/7. I am using a spray cycle that I have found works well in both an aero-only config and the fog config. I have run both of these systems seperately with different plants in different tents, though I'd try them in the same tent with the same plants and see what happened.
water culure is better
mrwilliamwonder 1 month ago
beating the grocery store price is a pretty low standard. That stuff is devoid of nutrition and rife with toxins. Include the money youll never make because the agricultural business took away your family farm, the cost of global warming and the health care you cant afford that cheap food is actually quit expensive. also the government subsidizes the agribusinesses so the are many cost hidden. Its only to easy to ignore cause were on a budget but freedom isnt free it cost $0.08 per kilowatt!
bryncomeaux 2 months ago
lol, all that work to grow fucking peppers
hogo1 2 months ago
@hogo1 you paid $1 for a pepper. but you also had to get an education, buy a car, travel to work everyday, finance a house, pay taxes, and many other associated cost in order to earn that pepper. By growing food a person can live in a housde they built themselves on land they own using power they make. While you may not want to live that way many people will soon have no choice. Besides after the recession what about the next recession and the one after that and the one after. this is retirement
bryncomeaux 2 months ago
Nice Idea
Opul3nce 7 months ago
Hey, I've just started getting in interest in hydroponic/aeroponics and I was wondering how cost efficiant it all is compared to buying the food you can grow yourself from a grocery store? What I mean is, after you've bought all the equipment (the pump, the lights, the nutrients etc.) and the amount of electricity needed to power the pump and the lights, is it cheaper, the same, or more expensive to do this in the long run as opposed to just buying the products from a grocery store?
JerryOHsu 8 months ago
@JerryOHsu Jerry, growing leafy greens an herbs can only be made cost effective under artificial lighting using multilayer production and through significant scale and process improvements. Basically to bring the cost down below grocery store prices you have to grow much more like a commercial producer than a hobby produces. Flowering fruits of any kind are not cost effective. Now that doesnt mean that there aren't benifits of health, taste, free of pesticides ect...
ProZachJ 8 months ago
@JerryOHsu As an example I grow basil under artificicial lighting for sale to a local restaraunt....It costs me about $3 per week in electricity and $1 per week in fertilizer and water to grow about $10 worth of basil but to achieve this I have to grow much more basil than I could ever use.
ProZachJ 8 months ago
To get cost effective production of flowering fruits you will need to go into backyard or greenhouse hydroponics to take advantage of the free lighting :)
ProZachJ 8 months ago
throw some weed under thous bitches.. fuck jalapenos buy that shit at the grocery store nigga...
teengrower 8 months ago
@xzvc9084 Res is 15 Gallon. Pump is 400GPH
ProZachJ 10 months ago
I'm guessing you raised the lights for this video, otherwise I'd say they are way too high.
ZiggyMoonpowder 1 year ago
That's a really cool setup! How many LED lights did you use for that system? I haven't tried using LEDs yet that's why I am really curious to know what results can I get from them. Are they really worth using for hydroponics growing?
lovingmygarden 1 year ago
@lovingmygarden It all depends on your crop and your budget, but yes LEDs can grow lots of great things. We just got done doing a Roma Tomato grow under LEDS
ProZachJ 1 year ago
waist of money unless its 4 weed grow those jalapenos outside
illius7420 1 year ago
Or if you don't have a place to grow outside!
ProZachJ 1 year ago
What about humidity/mold in the house? What about insects in the house? Are these an issue when running an aeroponic system indoors?
mikecazzx 1 year ago
where did you get the led light?
BloodXSweatXGuitars 2 years ago
Awesome set up man! Very professional. when you said aeroponic and hydroponic, does that mean you have a fogger in the box and sprayers directed at the roots in the same system? and how do you circulate the fog, do you just put an air pump inside the box with the humidifier?
surfr1987 2 years ago
Yes one system had both sprayers and Fog and the other had only sprayers. The fog was pumped in from the top on the far end and since the whole rail was angled the fog naturally flowed down the rail. I am sure a fan blowing into the rail could have caused the rails to fill even more with fog. I have however moved away from using fog in anything but propagation systems purely for simplicity sake.
ProZachJ 2 years ago
Could you take the sprayers away from the Fogponic system and still grow nice plants?
xwolbx 2 years ago
I don't think fog only can suppy the H20 needs of a large plant
ProZachJ 2 years ago
why dont you turn off the light before you film? I cant see nothing man!
silverpizza100 2 years ago
Watch my later videos...I figured this out
ProZachJ 2 years ago
how abot the transplant, do the plants shock? what do u do to recover them
joez1794 2 years ago
If you take care of your seedlings properly there is very little transplant shock
ProZachJ 2 years ago
LED sucks dude. Right now at least
MattsArchive 2 years ago
I beg to differ. I have sucessfully grown: Romain Lettuce, Bibb lettuce, Spinach, Cucumbers, Bush beans, Polebeans, Jalapenos, Thia peppers, Thai basil, Lemon Basil, Cilantro, Genovese Basil, Rosemary, and Chives using LED.
ProZachJ 2 years ago
@ProZachJ Successfully grown doesn't necessarily mean your yields were as high as they would've been had you used other lights. Also most of the plants you grew will "successfully grow" in crappy soil and a sunny window. Do a comparison using some fluoro, HPS, or MH lights, and get some results before you beg to differ.
Nice setup though.
FfejTball 1 year ago
what does the black tube in the fogponic system do exactly? I assume the fog just drops from the fog box down into your two chambers... or does the fog travel down the tube to the far end of the chambers and then enter?
DHtcqb7 2 years ago
the black tube refills the fogbox with fresh nutrients every time the aeroponic sprayers turn on. Plus it makes a really easy way to drain the reservoir when it comes time to do a nutrient change.
ProZachJ 2 years ago
Both are on the same spray cycle. Foggers run 24/7. I am using a spray cycle that I have found works well in both an aero-only config and the fog config. I have run both of these systems seperately with different plants in different tents, though I'd try them in the same tent with the same plants and see what happened.
ProZachJ 2 years ago
On the left you a combo Areo and Fog ponics?
Are both aeroponic systems using the same spraying cycle?
What is the fog cycle?
waveoflight 2 years ago
No Comments guys?
ProZachJ 2 years ago
This is really well done, valid and interesting research, given free of charge. Thank you.
spacepimp2001 2 years ago