Interesting to see US dumbasses stating US should not pay their debts. Your banks ruined the worlds economics and you refuse to take responsibility.
US has the highest CO2 rate per citizen, the highest energy needs etc. just to have some hillbilly moron driving a 400BHP car to the supermarked, that is just 500m away.
I´d propose to swap the habitants of south america with the north america ones at once, just to pay back the rainforrest they were forced to burn to get a bit of wealth.
the US should follow the Russian lead and default on it's international debt and it's debt to the FED then repeal the Federal Reserve Act taking back the monetary authority it gave to the FED..the FED was a scam the bankers got passed on Christmas Eve when very few members of congress were present
corrupt greedy money manipulators it happened in 1997 and they did it again in 2008 these corrupt money hungry bastards have destroyed so many lives for their own enrichment.. they should be rounded up and shot
I am calling to all people of the world to give attention to my demand and accept the truth of my revelation that the only way for economic recovery is to accept the reality in the event of the second world war that the national treasure of the world was brought to my nation herein the Philippine island and buried for the reservation of my great activity that my Father in Heaven has preparing all these for the fulfillment of his Promise and for the salvation of His people.
hahahaha all of these people shoud be in jail? Am I in the twilight zone? What they did was so outragously reckless its criminal....Its amazing, no one cares, or even mentions the fact what they did was not only unethical it was criminal negligence....Alot of it was other peoples money and the federal govt. bailed them out with OUR money!!!! Guess what? they never paid a damn DIME back..
lmfao this fucking retard has no fucking idea what he's talking about. name one thing they had done that that was criminal. let's remember hedges funds in nature are about making risky transactions
Oh bull, its not about "risky transactions". Listen, LTCM was one hedge fund, with not a lot of people, with a lot of borrowing that was generated under "questionable" firm information in terms of risk exposure, which in my opinion was criminal. And perpetuated an illusion that a failure threatened the entire financial system. Which is criminal fraud in my book (because they did it to save their own bacon)
Congress was told by the over-the-counter derivatives dealers, and by some regulators, that this was an anomaly, this was not indicative of dangers. That was a bald face LIE perpetuated so they could continue trading in derivatives and credit default swaps in the same old-fashioned manner, the paperwork a mess, and that there would be days between that you sold something and that the other guy who bought it acknowledged that he had bought it.
LTCM liked this because it helped to dodge taxes (Myron Scholes, even saying publicly that only a fool paid his taxes.) and risk was more meaningless because they were operating on someone elses dime (hence some tax evasion there). The public interest was not fully protected by the marketplace and the participants in the marketplace. Both the regulators and LTCM failed to observe this, despite recognizing it as reality, in the regulators cases it was to the point of criminal negligence.
This was a good, early example of financial irresponsibility and morality at its worst, and the only reason it was forgotten was because it was bailed out so very few people were initially hurt so there werent many people screaming for blood and THAT was the point. You really dont have any idea of what has been going on with these firms and Govt. wheeling and dealing over the last 2 decades do you?
this is what the US should do refuse to pay it's international debt and close down the Federal Reserve and refuse to pay the debt to those crooks as well
@xadam2dudex USA WILL refuse to pay all debts and rely on its military strength to get the country through the following fallout, It is just a matter of when not if.
@Playboysmurf1 when the crash happens worldwide a new economic system will have to be built....we can only hope it is going to be like the implied Star Trek system where there is no money as we know it and the wealthy will be a thing of the past..I don't have much hope for that..I think the powerful will impose an even more heinous system dividing the world into poor and extremely wealthy who will control every aspect of life like in an apocalyptic movie
The goal is a garden paradise lifestyle. That is no threat to anyone and it solves world problems of pollution, climate change-global warming fears, reoccurring financial crisis, war, immigration,.etc. The employment lifestyle must be replaced with a garden paradise lifestyle. It is the only sustainable solution. Lift up this truth to end pollution of air, land, water, food, and overcome all evil. God promises rain in due season to the obedient, but many terrors for not. Leviticus 26
Trading models are copied fast in this business said in this vid so one would expect that Goldman wouldnt be the only one using this high velocity computer skimming. Whos gonna win the skimming battle sucking up nickels all over the world?
This is a good Video, but yall should check out this video.... the music is off the chain. Search "Vthov Obama Inauguration Song" He's a nobody now, but I guarantee he's going places. Don't take my word for it, see for yourself.
hi there, i produced and directed the show, trillion dollar bet...so I'm glad you guys like it. Its original title in the UK was The Midas Formula. I've uploaded other bits of the show...Midas First, Midas Second, Midas Third and Midas End. Hope you enjoy
the dollar is going down and it will be gone soon because there is nothing backing it. when it is gone the bills will be gone beacuse the people that work at the place were the bills are from will not go to work becuae they are not getting payed and the items that you owe on is yous beace of the 9 tenths of the law that own it. so buy things on cedit and you will not have to pay for it later
When you say gone, do you mean no longer in existence as a currency? So you think that no currency will replace the old if that happens? You think all debt will be forgiven? The whole country will shut down?..complete and utter chaos? ...Everyone unemployed no water or electricity, gas, cooking oil, unless you barter for it? No food on shelves? It's gonna be tough if you don't have a well and lots of supplies, and a big garden huh? The dark ages? I don't see it. Don't run your cards too high.
The bankers are the bigger debtors... If you keep doing the same thing you are going to get the same thing. Central planning is the worst way to try and get out of the mess. All that means is that the central power bails out its friends at the cost of the poor people.
theorig...Okay so the entire world banking system is in peril, economies are falling, monetary system is unstable, virtually all big banks in US would be gone already if not for being held up by bailout funding. Yes it's distasteful. I take it you reject the entire idea of any central planning in an economy, so what do you propose instead? I'm listening.
I don't have a big solution either. I mean if I am against central planning, that means I don't have a central plan. Letting the banks fail would have been much better. They would have gone through bankruptcy court and assets would have been purchased fairly, instead of being donated.
When you say that central planning in China and Russia failed you are correct in the larger context of planning a Communist dictatorship. Both of these countries still have central planning, as does the US. The problem related with the banks is that the value of their assets are dubious. What is the value of an open position based upon unknown changing valuations? At first I believed in hands off, but a complete shut down? Imagine the hungry, the unrest, worldwide. We have to make choices here.
Their assets would not be so dubious if they went through bankruptcy court and were purchased on an open market. It wouldn't have been a complete shutdown... they were threatening it though. The unrest and the hungry will probably still come. What have they done to fix the problem?
That is a good point regarding bankruptcy court, and what they own should be made public. I think that a big part of this though is that what they own are not exactly assets but rather positions in hedge funds, currencies, etc, and I think what this was about was "Help we need more leverage" and while I would like to see them all arrested and thrown in jail, I would also like to see the rains grabbed - ie central planning, to take over where these CEO's and their officers have failed miserably.
And another thing about bankruptcy court is that the assets would have been picked apart and probably bought by many different (more conservative) banks. Lessening centralization. As opposed to 3 or 4 banks becoming even bigger... Now what happens if and when they fail again? Also, your right we needed a little more leverage to keep the dollar raising and to stop the deflation... However on an open market their assets would have probably gone for more money, thus decreasing the fall.
I wouldn't mind someone grabbing the rains myself... if they are undoing our current banking system, and introducing real money. Undo the Central bank, and once again the treasury printing silver and gold certificates. It would be a tough transition. But many heads are always better then one, and usually these things can be done on an open market. (libertydollar(dot) org) But these peoples assets were illegally stolen by the government. They don't want competition.
If the current system crashes, meaning we see an extreme fluctuation of the US Dollar against other currencies, than the natural response will be a complete re-working of World Monetary policy. I don't have a clue which way that would go. Gold and Silver are not going to come back as the standard. Any severe change in what we use for money is not going to be a unilateral move by the United States that is for sure. Liberty Dollar (dot) org, is just a fancy website selling Gold, not currency.
How about capitalism? Not what we have now...we've got debtism. If folks only invested money they had, instead of making hugely leveraged bets, you couldn't get this frantic unravelling of positions and cascading failures in financial markets.
My friend, if you are a American. Just the fact that you are here on this subject... If you don't know who Gerald Celente is , you are doing yourself a disfavor. All Americans need to listen for 3 min... right here on You Tube... We are at the end of what use to be a great country Americans. Please be informed ... listen to this on
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Gerald Celente warns of the next US Great Depression. PART 1 ..
the problem is that these academia guys think that markets are effective and is based on logic and reason.Of course that is not true.Look what happened when fear overwhelmed the markets and everyone liquidated their assets like there was no tommorow
The market is effective, logical, and reasonable. They had to liquidate assets because they were borrowing money (leverage) to make money. The people lending demand money back. It is ineffective because central control. That is why Russia and China failed. That is why US is going to fail (central bank). It creates irrational distribution of resources. Namely cheap money to wall street on the backs of workers. It is illogical to you because you don't understand the reasons. Now you start to.
Idiot, markets aren't perfect. How do you think people make money off them? They exploit inefficiencies. LTCM's equity vol and convergence trades made sense but only if u use past volatility as a barometer. They stupidly assumed that volatility is an inherent and unchanging characteristic. Their models relied on past performance. When the 'perfect' market swung like it had never done before, their beloved trades blew up. LTCM forgot the predatory and protective instincts of real-life traders.
The current markets are not open and free markets. I didn't say the markets are perfect. They balance in a reasonable and rational way... it is only called irrational because you cannot know the reasons for everyones individual movement. For example hedge fund managers who are leveraged. When stocks go down and gov't interferes and makes short selling impossible... they lose a lot of money and the lenders demand money back. This requires liquidation. This means markets move in a way unpredicted.
theorig...Yeah but it seems that central planning is the only way out of the mess we are in right now. Central planning not only at the Nation state level but world wide. I see new world wide agreements coming out of this mess.
theorig..When you say the US Central bank will fail, what exactly do you mean? The US is now a big hedge fund trying to hold everything with huge leverage, how does this position unwind? I have heard it stated that World central banks will dictate policy to the US soon with a new accord to succeed the Bretton woods agreement. I see dollar up in short term after bad Friday-risk aversion, and then drop real big when those bad credit cards come due, but Euro zone isn't in good shape either..so?
nah you only go in the right direction to complete open mindedness. Thats just where things start to get crazy. The person who knows nothing is more closer to the truth. Even Math is an illusion/something to so call define our reality.
The SUB PRIME LOANS which caused this crisis in the Mortgage Industry are always in the HISPANIC COMMUNITY across the country. Who is responsible for giving the SUB PRIME LOANS TO MAJORITY HISPANIC PEOPLE?Why is PRESIDENT BUSH allowing OUR TAX DOLLARS to rescue peoples' homes who have NO SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!HOW can you tax or track a homeowner who has NO SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR EIN NUMBER?I have a right to know.I am a US CITIZEN.I am tired of giving ILLEGAL ALIENS ANOTHER free ride!!
no matter what. Even if the entire United States files Bankruptcy they probably have large stores of Gold in their basements or in their homes in Switzerland!!
im sorry your right.. i meant to say, the value we give money is an illusion. i was hi =D everything is an illusion when your hi, even your so real comment.
I already thought you meant it like that, it's okey. :)
I may have sounded a bit blunt & aggressive there also, sorry for that.
I have to say though, that to some extent you are right, as nowadays money often isn't backed by it's value in gold anymore. Still it's value, but when there's another economic crash, first thing that happens is paper money won't be worth more than simple paper.
That's correct. What makes the problem even worse is in the past the U.S Dollar was strong because it was the default investment and savings currency of the world. The Fed said that the US citizen has nothing to worry about because the US real estate market is so solid. Well that turned out to be false and what's more, now we have no way, besides temporary petty speculation, to assure anyone that the US dollar has any remaining value. We don't produce anything and we're outsourcing most jobs.
It's too bad gold is going to be mad expensive...starting a few months before yesterday so to speak. I think the mindset of the people has to change and ultimately the system must change in order to avoid a real total collapse.
That's true. Unfortunately the job of changing the people's ways of life will come from the result of this collapse. People need to learn the value of things and how to plan a budget. Of course what's more important is that we bring jobs back. That we become an industrialized country again. This is the only way to bring back jobs and affordable housing. In order for this to occur the current bubble system must burst. That's the painful part of the transition.
Yeah, the governments jumping in to save banks really only makes it take a while longer before the bubble bursts in my opinion. Not quite a good idea.
money is an illusion but dont tell everyone else! faith in the currency is what gives it its value. if people loose faith in it the whole house of cards will fall down.
some people think money is evil but the fact is its just a promise and a statement of goodwill, what people use it for is another matter. you will go out and work for paper, because you know when you bring it to a shop someone else will accept that paper in exchange for goods and services. moeny is trust, and an illusion :)
the system cannot- I REPREAT, CANNOT- be sabotoged by a small group of ppl. the profits that these large banks/corporations seek to extract are, in the larger scale of things, the result of mutual benefit between the consumer and the bankers.
in other words, its not to a banks/corporations interest for people to be poor;.
thats as basic as i can put it.
its easy to blame jews for some conspiracy.
lifes problems seem alot easier with a one-answer-fits-all explanation.
conspiracy theorists are responsible for starting all wars, religions and misinformation which has lead to all problems mankind has faced politically, socially and economically.
Since the start of civilisation they have lied to people about the world and distorted truth in order to upset people and make them hate each other and worry about things which arent even the slightest bit true.
This ironically is probably closer to the truth than it appears...
Actually you are wrong... banks make HUGE profits because of HUGE differences between the rich and poor, so try again. They make a lot more money now than they would if everybody would have been equally as rich... Also, I don't blame Jews for anything, they aren't even a real tangible economic group so much, there are jewish bankers sure, but also jewish trashcan cleaners, jobless jews and so on... nowadays it's pretty stupid to refer to them as the 'people behind the banks/corporations'.
Of course it may be true that some people have more influence than others when it comes to what happens in the world. Often it is argued that the jewish state was only possible because a lot of jews in high places in the american government supported it. I guess I can't deny that...
Oh stop complaining we only give them $5 billion a year. For what purpose, we don't know, we never ask, we just give our hard earn money to them. We have nobody to blame but ourselves because we are stupid, we allow these spendings to go on without holding anyone accountable.
I know exactly where my money goes, so I guess you're the one who's being the ignorant one. Yeah I know my bank supports wars, weapon development and what not, but should I really care? I don't think so, as long as I have access to my money and just about all times.
No, I'm not being ignorant. Your bank doesn't support wars or weapon development, your tax money does. The $5billion I talked about was our taxed money. I guess you don't worry about taxes because you make no money you pay no taxes if you did you would've been angry like some of us.
perhaps you and I have a disagreement in terms. by 'poor' i mean dead broke, or homeless, or something to that extreme.
no one can be equally rich, that is impossible on so many different levels that it bears no value in debate.
as far as class discrepancy-- sure, wealth creation, perforce, requires that many have to finance their existence overtime (thereby increasing the value of money over time). this has exploitative overtones, where the ppl at the bottom are secured bonds.
I still don't think you understand how banks profit from even the poorest of people.
"no one can be equally rich, that is impossible on so many different levels that it bears no value in debate."
It depends on what you would do actually, I don't think it's impossible. I do think humans normally don't really want equality, especially not the rich people for obvious reasons. Also, rich people often work their ass off literally, so I do think they should have a certain amount of more rights.
rich people deserve more rights!?!?! cause they work there ass's off? doing what ripping off everyone else?... poor people work there ass's off for little money. they deserve more right's cause without them that rich asshole wouldn't have shit. don't you all get that we need each other and should probably think about playing fair. seriously most of america is fuking retarded especially the rich. maybe it's the tap water.
I can't help it your stupid as fuck in working your ass off like a poor kid. If you're poor and you're in a messed up situation, the ONLY FREAKING ONE able to change things is YOU. Stop complaining and change your life!! Now is the time, if you're really upset about rich people ripping you off. Life ain't fair, you don't get rich being a nice guy... get over it. Again, change is you, all I'm saying.
LOL.Really smart people did dumb thing,just as Warren Buffett said about them. Eventually,the very same people had to beg Buffett for bailout. Now it repeated again in 2007. Market never changes. Curve-fitting the market,real genius.
Imagine working to build this country, then finding out that you don't have enough money to buy what you have just created. Bankers have conned us all... We are forced to use a money system that is corrupt by design, stealing from those who create tangible wealth and giving it to those who do nothing for society. See Google Video: Money as Debt - Fiat Empire - Monopoly Men - The Money Masters - Freedom to Fascism - Zeitgeist.
Please tell what banks make or what they do or what services they do. They lend money and charge interest on that money. If I could create money and lend it to goverments id be real rich.. Ill lend America 1000000000000000 dollars tommorrow but i want 5 percent interest on that money .. See how banks make money out of thin air.
My point is that monetary policy is a genuine attempt to control boom bust cycles in the markets. Fiat currency is an alternative to the gold standard, its not just a con by central banks. That is just wild conspiracy theory which is why i disagree with the last post.
Go read real economics books and speak with real economists before you believe what some CTs say.
Milton Friedman (legendary economist and libertarian) agrees with monetery policy, and hes one of Ron Pauls heros.
The fed is abusing its position right now to bail out wall street, it needs to let banks and bad investors go bankrupt but at the same time it wants to save the economy from recession by delaying the problems.
If it raised rates it would literally throw people on the streets, put people out of jobs and slow down international markets.
Its not an easy choice to make
There is two sides to the problem, ben bernanke should raise rates but that will have a lot of instant negative effects on trade.
If the banks were genuinely out to only print money and rob people through inflation then why would america be borrowing billions from China on a daily basis?
Why not just print that money and keep the interest rather than borrowing and paying interest on that?
There are problems in the system but most of these problems are caused by traders/small lenders and their own systems of making money through credit schemes rather than central banks printing up dollars.
The government is a main reason why dollars are being printed, if they dont balance budget (and growing governments can never do this) they have to tax more and order the fed to print more dollars to increase their budget and make up shortfall.
Again the central banks are not responsible for this behavior.
My point has hopefully made clear, the current crisis is not driven by the central banks, its a system which lots of players are abusing collectively to achieve wealth or other goals.
FYI im an economics student and i have watched nearly all of those videos, and they are so wrong in so many ways.
Sure they dress it up well, but they are distorting the reality to suit their own goal of stirring controversy.
How anyone can suggest conspiracy theory movies are in anyway a superior basis of knowledge and facts to actual education and sound research is completely deluded.
digitised, it would be much useful to point out something to read in order to explain what are you talking about, so people can read themselves if they want to. Like this, you're just like the movies.
btw, in eastern countries they do study about this way of banking and they are not really thrilled about it. You think that's just because of different politics?
If you want to hit upon this 'huge conspiracy' and read about all its evil secrets and esoteric workings...
Just pick up a basic macroeconomics textbook...
Im not joking its no conspiracy everybody is taught his system of money. Its not a purposeful attempt to rip people off, its a way of increasing 'money quantity'.
What people dont understand is the money supply is also SHRUNK.. such as the great depression... its not just increase all the time to rip people off.
Just read a book or google something like 'introduction to macroeconomics' and read up on basic principles such as 'aggregate demand' 'consumption function' 'IS LM analysis' 'interst rates' 'money quantity theory' etc
Yes some countries do favour hard money, i prefer tha system because it cannot be abused..however Gold fails too.
President jackson resotored the gold standard, but CTs forget to mention IT FAILED in the usa and was replaced with fiat.
Money is demanded like all other commodities, people like to finance transactions on credit.
So people use credit to buy goods, as the demand and supply of money increases, the iterest rate rises to slow down this growth (money supply growth causes inflation on prices)
As demand lowers the debts are paid back and the money supply contracts. Bringing prices back down.
Central banks are basically focusing on 'price stability', NOT ripping people off.
Well, I think gold standard is not too good either, but that system in which value of currency is determined by the national production (or something like that). This money creation in advance is too greedy.
I'll get to reading those stuff you said and see what will come up.
they are made like movies so the average dumb smuck gets a grip comprendeh???? they may not meet with everbodys stadards but they are a good oversight to whats genrally happening
sorry but movies like zeitgeist and the money masters do not give people an oversight. They give a 1 sided view that all the central banks are in collusion and trying to install worldwide communism by eliminating the middle class creating a minority of elite, and majority of peasant class citizens who will all be chipped, tagged, shaved and sterilised.
Like i said go read some economics before you fall for this nonsense. Fiat currency is abused, but not for 'those' reasons.
ps is it anti semetic to study the jew and tell of the many ways in witch hes been dam right unscrupelous ????? let me guess u are a jew ??? well if thats the case yahew follower you aint the fucking chosen people you just chose to make yourselfs that way and people like me would love nothing more than to undo that and in a permanant way to so im anti semetic fuck u cunt and fuck all your jew kind
well i no they give a one sided view granted but what media dosent ??? and the shaven headed mases used for the elites whims well we have been there befour and many times aswell so im not sure what you think about that ??? and i never said nowt about 2009 or 2012 i prescribe to the summerian date of 2036 and history teachs us many times over about the smug populace that dont leave when they should and live to regret it so u say no economic crash u say man made global warming and mercury is ok??
Terrible guess, look at my account, im blatantly an atheist/agnostic just by my favourites list.
Ive also spent 5 years reading politics, as well as spent the last 2 years at business school studying economics.
The jewish banking conspiracy is mostly based on a book called 'protocals of the elders of zion' which is a proven russian forgery from the late 1800s.
The sumerian stuff is nonsense. Why dont you google the science which refutes it, look at both sides and see which is stronger?
well then you need to read into it further thease people have been in one way or another running us since the dawn of the city dwelling man to say its not odd? they own media they are very much in parliment world over one way or another the usa would never let anything happen to israel ??? i suggest in fact i beg you to read gods of the new millenium and if at the end of that you still feel they are good people with no adgenda then i will book myself in down the nut house ok sound good to u ???
You are being crazy because you are blaming the actions of a handful of individuals on an entire population of 15m.
Sure theres jewish people who use power and influence to secure help for their cause, but to assume they want world domination makes no sense they just want israel and eventually peace.
Religions are based on the arrogance that its followers are right, so you will get perpetuated conflicts when 2 religions collide since both sides believe to the death that they are right.
Dont forget your nazi friends openly once tried to take over the world and killed millions, i dont see you complaining about that?
This is a huge double standard or a gaping oversight on your behalf.
Middle eastern politics has been fueled by 50 years of hate, both the arabs and jews in the region are so irrational i support neither side. Both are guilty of atrocities, both spread hate and propaganda.
However the jews at least have the decency to keep to ceasefires.
i agree with your points and find you to be the most rational person commenting on this video post. i'm arabic, and am one to know (or consider) that arab politics are based on illiberal, unprogressive, arrogant, primitive notions that hitherto have not comprehended the relationship between "government" and its clients--to serve to promote civility, that is
ingrained religious culture stymies efforts to repoliticize arab civilization to create a more progessive, forward looking society.
I agree, any soceity which bases its political/social system on undynamic and unquestioned literal adherence to scripture will fail to overcome the inherent flaws in that system.
There is progress being made by younger generations (particularly women) who are fighting to equalize their status with men, but ultimately this could take generations to accomplish.
Im very interested in religion and the irrationality of fundamentalist beliefs, and i have an urge to write a book/esay on it all.
There is no evidence the jews have run anything since the dawn of time. They were forced out of israel and had nowhere to go and be free to practice their religion.
Learn history and you will see nearly all other religions are hostile towards others, so jews were unfortunate to be in a situation of having to get by in societies that hated them by default.
They were even kicked out of england in the 1200s so i dont see how they had any real power like you suggest?
Seriously you live in the clouds, how can you be so foolish to believe in this kind of rubbish?
That 'online book' denies evolution, claims planet X exists, supports the great flood, and talks the usual rubbish about NWO and a bunch of other false history.
PlanetX is a joke among astronomers, Evolution is the most well supported scientific theory there is (check my profile!!) and the rest is equally
Whoever told you that is LYING to you, there are religious implications to denying evolution because it conflicts with a literal interpretation of the bible/quran/vedas/torah ..etc
Evolution is proven beyond all doubt with solid evidence you can see, touch, check and quantify.
Visit talkorigins. o r g, check videos by cdk007, donexodus2, extantdodo for irrefutable evidence by SCIENTISTS.
You read pseudoscience written by deluded uneducated people who refute things they dont understand.
sir you must not be a very good arab or you missed the point of what you was taught because your old advesary the jew is very much a trouble maker and not people with conspiracy theorys to blame for wars and there is no proof of evolution unless you inclue java man and piltdown man lol and you say you are educated lol god bless you my son and you should read some more start with alan arlefords gods of the new milenium try it :)and as for pseudo science well do your homework darwin is full of it
Sorry i must have missed something, i was under the impression that 99% of educated historians, astronomers and archeologists completely disagree with planetx.
And 99.98% of educated biologists accept the overwhelming evidence of evolution, as do i.
Keep reading your conspiracy books grilfer, afterall im sure its more exciting than truth. Maybe youll disappear into a bunker for 50 years after 2011 as to miss the catastrophe, and we wont have to put up with your ridiculous statements.
lol the real date is 2036 and as for truth i take it you are a 911 goverment exsepta ??? what ,many people take for the facts have a nasty way of being the complete untruth and there are so many good esamples to so im open to all i have looked at so far concerning a missed earth history look at the moon it reminds us everyday what we are lucky at the mo to avoid and temples that defy modern building tools and science still upset the apple cart of what is the truth open mind digi mate :)
911 was done by islamic hijackers but i cant expect somebody completely lost in fairy tales like 'planetx','evolution hoax' and 'protcocols of zion' to believe anything backed with evidence.
Ive read nearly all these 'theories' out of interest because I AM open minded.
But im also smart enough to see through it all and recognise the danger behind these terrible lies.
You think 99% of educated proffesional scientists and academics are conspiring against humanity?
i choose not to live my life adopting the ignorance of my forefathers and hating "old adverseries". life is too short. why waste my energy thinking of all these conspiracies? for what? what will it do for me?
nothing.
you should just go get a girl friend. experience sex, and stop being a loser. itll be alot healthier for your psychological development, because as of now, you seem to be regressing into a state of intellectual torpor and unfettered ignorance.
or better still just carry on as i am im happy hateing you liberal sheepal types fuck yourself heres hopeing i one day get the chance to do it for you cunt :) lots of love
i dont hate you. i jsut feel bad for u. u must have not recieved love from your failure parents. obviously, you have never had a girlfriend (and will die alone). and surely, you will spend the rest of your life as a loser, in your room, expressing your anger and frustation in the form of youtube comments.
unfortunately, we will never cross paths unless i start a charitable organization that helps losers like you.
lol you really are a liberal cunt are you not :) fuck you and your kind. Liberal hide behind your ideals mate and when it all goes rat shit and it will lock yourself up in your house if its not repossesed and listen out for the door handle bet it,s my type comeing to take your shit and what will you do ?? fuck all because you are a liberal sheeple type who aint got a wank in him cunt :) have a bad day
If you have any interest in reality then read material by people who have credentials. Not only are they educated on their field but they also have to make sure their work is backed with evidence or else they can lose their jobs/respect.
If you dont believe any of what im saying is truth, i dont care. You are choosing to delude yourself and maybe nothing i say matters, ive had deceny to inform you that you are horribly wrong because you read dubious sources whose only goal is misinformation.
1:45 I hope this works
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youneekk 6 months ago
We need more talented financial mathematicians
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raducumuculucu 8 months ago
George Soros is king
benjiheads 1 year ago
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SynisterMustang 1 year ago
i love this fucking documentary
kauboibiboppu 1 year ago
Leo Melemed is a legend.
kauboibiboppu 1 year ago
@JakeMansonNYC i never mentioned the USSR ..
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
Reminds me of Nassim Nicholas Taleb's Black Swan.
LibertySole 1 year ago
Why does the world have to suck so bad?
lushfauna 1 year ago
this sickens me knowing that my home just burnt monthes ago and he making trillion dollars bets? may god bless him.
DLUVRL2 1 year ago
Interesting to see US dumbasses stating US should not pay their debts. Your banks ruined the worlds economics and you refuse to take responsibility.
US has the highest CO2 rate per citizen, the highest energy needs etc. just to have some hillbilly moron driving a 400BHP car to the supermarked, that is just 500m away.
I´d propose to swap the habitants of south america with the north america ones at once, just to pay back the rainforrest they were forced to burn to get a bit of wealth.
elvaxo 1 year ago
during any sort of a crisis you want to round up as many bitches as possible, that plan can never go wrong.
PatrickWJ 1 year ago
"Their bold ideas earned Scholes and Merton a Nobel Prize"
Holy s$it. Why? Just why??? They have done nothing to deserve a Nobel.
kmarinas86 1 year ago
It's hilarious to see a group of super smart investors dumbfounded by the events of the REAL WORLD.
MishuTaste 1 year ago 3
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superdougiedave 2 years ago
the US should follow the Russian lead and default on it's international debt and it's debt to the FED then repeal the Federal Reserve Act taking back the monetary authority it gave to the FED..the FED was a scam the bankers got passed on Christmas Eve when very few members of congress were present
xadam2dudex 2 years ago
corrupt greedy money manipulators it happened in 1997 and they did it again in 2008 these corrupt money hungry bastards have destroyed so many lives for their own enrichment.. they should be rounded up and shot
xadam2dudex 2 years ago 2
one thing I know..worse is coming.
chardnj 2 years ago
Cash is the king when time of crisis !
jimxuan88 2 years ago
unless the cash isn't worth the paper it is printed on
xadam2dudex 2 years ago 2
@jimxuan88
Cash is history...
The Golden Rule.....
He with the Gold Makes the Rules,......
Buy gold now, or you will be on the streets under a bridge withing 18 months........
DeathOfTheDollar2010 2 years ago
@DeathOfTheDollar2010 poor call
gotmyfingerrscrowsed 1 year ago
cash is trash, silver is king in a crisis
Seano71 2 years ago
Good description and good video. Legends melting down their Nobel prizes to meet margin calls.
bulbheadmyass 2 years ago
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NewWorldEra2009 2 years ago
Most of the debt is owed domestically anyway.
fairyslight 2 years ago
hahahaha all of these people shoud be in jail? Am I in the twilight zone? What they did was so outragously reckless its criminal....Its amazing, no one cares, or even mentions the fact what they did was not only unethical it was criminal negligence....Alot of it was other peoples money and the federal govt. bailed them out with OUR money!!!! Guess what? they never paid a damn DIME back..
sysopkc 2 years ago
@sysopkc
lmfao this fucking retard has no fucking idea what he's talking about. name one thing they had done that that was criminal. let's remember hedges funds in nature are about making risky transactions
bearstearn3 2 years ago
Oh bull, its not about "risky transactions". Listen, LTCM was one hedge fund, with not a lot of people, with a lot of borrowing that was generated under "questionable" firm information in terms of risk exposure, which in my opinion was criminal. And perpetuated an illusion that a failure threatened the entire financial system. Which is criminal fraud in my book (because they did it to save their own bacon)
sysopkc 2 years ago
Congress was told by the over-the-counter derivatives dealers, and by some regulators, that this was an anomaly, this was not indicative of dangers. That was a bald face LIE perpetuated so they could continue trading in derivatives and credit default swaps in the same old-fashioned manner, the paperwork a mess, and that there would be days between that you sold something and that the other guy who bought it acknowledged that he had bought it.
sysopkc 2 years ago
LTCM liked this because it helped to dodge taxes (Myron Scholes, even saying publicly that only a fool paid his taxes.) and risk was more meaningless because they were operating on someone elses dime (hence some tax evasion there). The public interest was not fully protected by the marketplace and the participants in the marketplace. Both the regulators and LTCM failed to observe this, despite recognizing it as reality, in the regulators cases it was to the point of criminal negligence.
sysopkc 2 years ago
This was a good, early example of financial irresponsibility and morality at its worst, and the only reason it was forgotten was because it was bailed out so very few people were initially hurt so there werent many people screaming for blood and THAT was the point. You really dont have any idea of what has been going on with these firms and Govt. wheeling and dealing over the last 2 decades do you?
sysopkc 2 years ago
think folks....
centervilletn 2 years ago
i love it when liberal dickheads try to talk money.
like you you tubers can have a thought beyond your egos
dogcrapgreen 2 years ago
this is what the US should do refuse to pay it's international debt and close down the Federal Reserve and refuse to pay the debt to those crooks as well
xadam2dudex 2 years ago 4
@xadam2dudex USA WILL refuse to pay all debts and rely on its military strength to get the country through the following fallout, It is just a matter of when not if.
Playboysmurf1 1 year ago
@Playboysmurf1 when the crash happens worldwide a new economic system will have to be built....we can only hope it is going to be like the implied Star Trek system where there is no money as we know it and the wealthy will be a thing of the past..I don't have much hope for that..I think the powerful will impose an even more heinous system dividing the world into poor and extremely wealthy who will control every aspect of life like in an apocalyptic movie
xadam2dudex 1 year ago
hahaha i like russia...ya those debts we owe? were not gunna pay
aSuperbadassninja 2 years ago
can some one up load the whole clip? thanks . or if anyone know where it can be seen.
hurcule911 2 years ago
Anyone think George Soros is also running a PONZI scheme, similar to that of madoff ?
spyknife 2 years ago 14
@spyknife Highly doubtful. A majority of assets in his fund/s are his own
PhDEconomics 1 year ago
@spyknife no arbitrage is niether a ponzi scheme nor illegal...it is highly risky..Soros got lucky...
atdeacon 1 year ago
@spyknife if so, he's a smarter manager.... he managed not to get caught yet, and retire before anything would be brought up against him
MultipleS2002 5 months ago
@spyknife of course not you idiot and idiots that liked your idiotic comment.
49fiori 1 month ago
what is the name of this documentary, and will anyone please upload the whole thing, please?
qazqashire 2 years ago
its called trillion dollar bet by a company called NOVA
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MarieDevine 2 years ago
Trading models are copied fast in this business said in this vid so one would expect that Goldman wouldnt be the only one using this high velocity computer skimming. Whos gonna win the skimming battle sucking up nickels all over the world?
YouriCarma 2 years ago
How has the human race been fooled to believe that a promise note (fiat) can make people barter with real goods?? People wake up!!
connecttoyourenergy 2 years ago
sounds like philip glass. dunno for sure tho.
terrywoo1 2 years ago
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leebee39 2 years ago 10
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vote for ron paul.
ron paul wants to end the federal reserve bank.
hyylo 1 year ago
Omg, DOW JONES hedge fund shrinks..
NauticalFILMS 2 years ago
Anyone knows any of the music used in this clip? It is very beautiful music. It would be very useful to know.
fnyklr 2 years ago
GREED. GREED. GREED.
Time to rethink about capitalism.
amartinjoe 2 years ago
Breaking News: IMF cuts...
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NauticalFILMS 3 years ago
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CheckMySwagPimp 3 years ago
hi there, i produced and directed the show, trillion dollar bet...so I'm glad you guys like it. Its original title in the UK was The Midas Formula. I've uploaded other bits of the show...Midas First, Midas Second, Midas Third and Midas End. Hope you enjoy
mukscle 3 years ago 2
It's awesome. The show that got me interested in the stock mkt. Thanks.
ryanstimpson 3 years ago
What's the name of the music you used?
Where can I find a copy of the soundtrack?
gulliblewhitepeople 3 years ago 2
Fantastic
34patleg 2 years ago
Trillion Dollar Bet... fu**in' pikers by today's standards. The US dollar is screwed.
tyronebiggums3 3 years ago
Gonna post the rest of this video?
Hopeful71 3 years ago
More is here, but it's called the midas formula by bbc watch?v=dsrOXJwGwtk
670Kiester 3 years ago
the dollar is going down and it will be gone soon because there is nothing backing it. when it is gone the bills will be gone beacuse the people that work at the place were the bills are from will not go to work becuae they are not getting payed and the items that you owe on is yous beace of the 9 tenths of the law that own it. so buy things on cedit and you will not have to pay for it later
nate6474 3 years ago
When you say gone, do you mean no longer in existence as a currency? So you think that no currency will replace the old if that happens? You think all debt will be forgiven? The whole country will shut down?..complete and utter chaos? ...Everyone unemployed no water or electricity, gas, cooking oil, unless you barter for it? No food on shelves? It's gonna be tough if you don't have a well and lots of supplies, and a big garden huh? The dark ages? I don't see it. Don't run your cards too high.
Cellularwakeup 3 years ago
The bankers are the bigger debtors... If you keep doing the same thing you are going to get the same thing. Central planning is the worst way to try and get out of the mess. All that means is that the central power bails out its friends at the cost of the poor people.
theoriginalanomaly 3 years ago
theorig...Okay so the entire world banking system is in peril, economies are falling, monetary system is unstable, virtually all big banks in US would be gone already if not for being held up by bailout funding. Yes it's distasteful. I take it you reject the entire idea of any central planning in an economy, so what do you propose instead? I'm listening.
Cellularwakeup 3 years ago
I don't have a big solution either. I mean if I am against central planning, that means I don't have a central plan. Letting the banks fail would have been much better. They would have gone through bankruptcy court and assets would have been purchased fairly, instead of being donated.
theoriginalanomaly 3 years ago
When you say that central planning in China and Russia failed you are correct in the larger context of planning a Communist dictatorship. Both of these countries still have central planning, as does the US. The problem related with the banks is that the value of their assets are dubious. What is the value of an open position based upon unknown changing valuations? At first I believed in hands off, but a complete shut down? Imagine the hungry, the unrest, worldwide. We have to make choices here.
Cellularwakeup 3 years ago
Their assets would not be so dubious if they went through bankruptcy court and were purchased on an open market. It wouldn't have been a complete shutdown... they were threatening it though. The unrest and the hungry will probably still come. What have they done to fix the problem?
theoriginalanomaly 3 years ago
That is a good point regarding bankruptcy court, and what they own should be made public. I think that a big part of this though is that what they own are not exactly assets but rather positions in hedge funds, currencies, etc, and I think what this was about was "Help we need more leverage" and while I would like to see them all arrested and thrown in jail, I would also like to see the rains grabbed - ie central planning, to take over where these CEO's and their officers have failed miserably.
Cellularwakeup 3 years ago
And another thing about bankruptcy court is that the assets would have been picked apart and probably bought by many different (more conservative) banks. Lessening centralization. As opposed to 3 or 4 banks becoming even bigger... Now what happens if and when they fail again? Also, your right we needed a little more leverage to keep the dollar raising and to stop the deflation... However on an open market their assets would have probably gone for more money, thus decreasing the fall.
theoriginalanomaly 3 years ago
I wouldn't mind someone grabbing the rains myself... if they are undoing our current banking system, and introducing real money. Undo the Central bank, and once again the treasury printing silver and gold certificates. It would be a tough transition. But many heads are always better then one, and usually these things can be done on an open market. (libertydollar(dot) org) But these peoples assets were illegally stolen by the government. They don't want competition.
theoriginalanomaly 3 years ago
If the current system crashes, meaning we see an extreme fluctuation of the US Dollar against other currencies, than the natural response will be a complete re-working of World Monetary policy. I don't have a clue which way that would go. Gold and Silver are not going to come back as the standard. Any severe change in what we use for money is not going to be a unilateral move by the United States that is for sure. Liberty Dollar (dot) org, is just a fancy website selling Gold, not currency.
Cellularwakeup 3 years ago
How about capitalism? Not what we have now...we've got debtism. If folks only invested money they had, instead of making hugely leveraged bets, you couldn't get this frantic unravelling of positions and cascading failures in financial markets.
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onstageagain 3 years ago
the problem is that these academia guys think that markets are effective and is based on logic and reason.Of course that is not true.Look what happened when fear overwhelmed the markets and everyone liquidated their assets like there was no tommorow
zoroab 3 years ago
The market is effective, logical, and reasonable. They had to liquidate assets because they were borrowing money (leverage) to make money. The people lending demand money back. It is ineffective because central control. That is why Russia and China failed. That is why US is going to fail (central bank). It creates irrational distribution of resources. Namely cheap money to wall street on the backs of workers. It is illogical to you because you don't understand the reasons. Now you start to.
theoriginalanomaly 3 years ago 3
Idiot, markets aren't perfect. How do you think people make money off them? They exploit inefficiencies. LTCM's equity vol and convergence trades made sense but only if u use past volatility as a barometer. They stupidly assumed that volatility is an inherent and unchanging characteristic. Their models relied on past performance. When the 'perfect' market swung like it had never done before, their beloved trades blew up. LTCM forgot the predatory and protective instincts of real-life traders.
ojsbklyn 3 years ago
The current markets are not open and free markets. I didn't say the markets are perfect. They balance in a reasonable and rational way... it is only called irrational because you cannot know the reasons for everyones individual movement. For example hedge fund managers who are leveraged. When stocks go down and gov't interferes and makes short selling impossible... they lose a lot of money and the lenders demand money back. This requires liquidation. This means markets move in a way unpredicted.
theoriginalanomaly 3 years ago
anomaly what the hell does the central bank have to do with Russia and China failing? What are you talking about you idiot?
ojsbklyn 3 years ago
Central planning... Why would you call me an idiot? It failed in Russia and China. And it is failing now.
theoriginalanomaly 3 years ago
theorig...Yeah but it seems that central planning is the only way out of the mess we are in right now. Central planning not only at the Nation state level but world wide. I see new world wide agreements coming out of this mess.
Cellularwakeup 3 years ago
theorig..When you say the US Central bank will fail, what exactly do you mean? The US is now a big hedge fund trying to hold everything with huge leverage, how does this position unwind? I have heard it stated that World central banks will dictate policy to the US soon with a new accord to succeed the Bretton woods agreement. I see dollar up in short term after bad Friday-risk aversion, and then drop real big when those bad credit cards come due, but Euro zone isn't in good shape either..so?
Cellularwakeup 3 years ago
Economics do not drive markets. Fear, greed, and career risk drive the markets.
30amus 3 years ago
Lest not forget that the masters
of this world want an urgent reduction
of population, according to them 500 million
people is all they really need to keep them going forever.
GeorgeGreekTrucker 3 years ago
see zeitgeist appendum on you tube and you will really know whats going on
apresado 3 years ago 2
nah you only go in the right direction to complete open mindedness. Thats just where things start to get crazy. The person who knows nothing is more closer to the truth. Even Math is an illusion/something to so call define our reality.
lorerax1 3 years ago
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The SUB PRIME LOANS which caused this crisis in the Mortgage Industry are always in the HISPANIC COMMUNITY across the country. Who is responsible for giving the SUB PRIME LOANS TO MAJORITY HISPANIC PEOPLE?Why is PRESIDENT BUSH allowing OUR TAX DOLLARS to rescue peoples' homes who have NO SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!HOW can you tax or track a homeowner who has NO SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR EIN NUMBER?I have a right to know.I am a US CITIZEN.I am tired of giving ILLEGAL ALIENS ANOTHER free ride!!
iamauscitizen 3 years ago
Don't worry I'm sure LTCM traders will survive
no matter what. Even if the entire United States files Bankruptcy they probably have large stores of Gold in their basements or in their homes in Switzerland!!
Rizky06 3 years ago
True, don't worry about the guys, they all started other hedgefund and were still multimillionaires after LTCT went down anyway.
debougie 3 years ago
You've got to get out while the getting is good. Amen.
TYX91101 3 years ago
money is an illusion.
lBAKESl 3 years ago
No it is not at all an illusion. Value may be an illusion, money is VERY real.
cadabraa 3 years ago 2
-cadabraa-
im sorry your right.. i meant to say, the value we give money is an illusion. i was hi =D everything is an illusion when your hi, even your so real comment.
lBAKESl 3 years ago
I already thought you meant it like that, it's okey. :)
I may have sounded a bit blunt & aggressive there also, sorry for that.
I have to say though, that to some extent you are right, as nowadays money often isn't backed by it's value in gold anymore. Still it's value, but when there's another economic crash, first thing that happens is paper money won't be worth more than simple paper.
cadabraa 3 years ago
That's correct. What makes the problem even worse is in the past the U.S Dollar was strong because it was the default investment and savings currency of the world. The Fed said that the US citizen has nothing to worry about because the US real estate market is so solid. Well that turned out to be false and what's more, now we have no way, besides temporary petty speculation, to assure anyone that the US dollar has any remaining value. We don't produce anything and we're outsourcing most jobs.
linnx88 3 years ago
It's too bad gold is going to be mad expensive...starting a few months before yesterday so to speak. I think the mindset of the people has to change and ultimately the system must change in order to avoid a real total collapse.
cadabraa 3 years ago
That's true. Unfortunately the job of changing the people's ways of life will come from the result of this collapse. People need to learn the value of things and how to plan a budget. Of course what's more important is that we bring jobs back. That we become an industrialized country again. This is the only way to bring back jobs and affordable housing. In order for this to occur the current bubble system must burst. That's the painful part of the transition.
linnx88 3 years ago
Yeah, the governments jumping in to save banks really only makes it take a while longer before the bubble bursts in my opinion. Not quite a good idea.
cadabraa 3 years ago 2
money is an illusion but dont tell everyone else! faith in the currency is what gives it its value. if people loose faith in it the whole house of cards will fall down.
some people think money is evil but the fact is its just a promise and a statement of goodwill, what people use it for is another matter. you will go out and work for paper, because you know when you bring it to a shop someone else will accept that paper in exchange for goods and services. moeny is trust, and an illusion :)
lucasleivia 3 years ago 5
Black scholes is NOT a automatic win in the markets.
These academic dweebs forgot about execution risk.
KLguy133 3 years ago
500 million in day! fuck!
ScrillaVilla1 3 years ago
When Genius Failed:The Rise and Fall of LTCM.
As the title hints it's the book about the LTCM story..Very interesting if you are in finance.
bradley081 3 years ago
2:10, our future
zee339 3 years ago
is there a part two to this?
miamigroove 3 years ago
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alxhlb 3 years ago
Your mother was an inside job!
patriotsundergod 3 years ago
LTC was an inside job
florgat91 3 years ago
the system cannot- I REPREAT, CANNOT- be sabotoged by a small group of ppl. the profits that these large banks/corporations seek to extract are, in the larger scale of things, the result of mutual benefit between the consumer and the bankers.
in other words, its not to a banks/corporations interest for people to be poor;.
thats as basic as i can put it.
its easy to blame jews for some conspiracy.
lifes problems seem alot easier with a one-answer-fits-all explanation.
tonikmajor 3 years ago
I have a conspiracy theory-
conspiracy theorists are responsible for starting all wars, religions and misinformation which has lead to all problems mankind has faced politically, socially and economically.
Since the start of civilisation they have lied to people about the world and distorted truth in order to upset people and make them hate each other and worry about things which arent even the slightest bit true.
This ironically is probably closer to the truth than it appears...
digitised 3 years ago
Actually you are wrong... banks make HUGE profits because of HUGE differences between the rich and poor, so try again. They make a lot more money now than they would if everybody would have been equally as rich... Also, I don't blame Jews for anything, they aren't even a real tangible economic group so much, there are jewish bankers sure, but also jewish trashcan cleaners, jobless jews and so on... nowadays it's pretty stupid to refer to them as the 'people behind the banks/corporations'.
cadabraa 3 years ago
Of course it may be true that some people have more influence than others when it comes to what happens in the world. Often it is argued that the jewish state was only possible because a lot of jews in high places in the american government supported it. I guess I can't deny that...
cadabraa 3 years ago
Oh stop complaining we only give them $5 billion a year. For what purpose, we don't know, we never ask, we just give our hard earn money to them. We have nobody to blame but ourselves because we are stupid, we allow these spendings to go on without holding anyone accountable.
moniequa 3 years ago
I know exactly where my money goes, so I guess you're the one who's being the ignorant one. Yeah I know my bank supports wars, weapon development and what not, but should I really care? I don't think so, as long as I have access to my money and just about all times.
cadabraa 3 years ago
No, I'm not being ignorant. Your bank doesn't support wars or weapon development, your tax money does. The $5billion I talked about was our taxed money. I guess you don't worry about taxes because you make no money you pay no taxes if you did you would've been angry like some of us.
moniequa 3 years ago
perhaps you and I have a disagreement in terms. by 'poor' i mean dead broke, or homeless, or something to that extreme.
no one can be equally rich, that is impossible on so many different levels that it bears no value in debate.
as far as class discrepancy-- sure, wealth creation, perforce, requires that many have to finance their existence overtime (thereby increasing the value of money over time). this has exploitative overtones, where the ppl at the bottom are secured bonds.
tonikmajor 3 years ago
I still don't think you understand how banks profit from even the poorest of people.
"no one can be equally rich, that is impossible on so many different levels that it bears no value in debate."
It depends on what you would do actually, I don't think it's impossible. I do think humans normally don't really want equality, especially not the rich people for obvious reasons. Also, rich people often work their ass off literally, so I do think they should have a certain amount of more rights.
cadabraa 3 years ago
rich people deserve more rights!?!?! cause they work there ass's off? doing what ripping off everyone else?... poor people work there ass's off for little money. they deserve more right's cause without them that rich asshole wouldn't have shit. don't you all get that we need each other and should probably think about playing fair. seriously most of america is fuking retarded especially the rich. maybe it's the tap water.
lBAKESl 3 years ago
I can't help it your stupid as fuck in working your ass off like a poor kid. If you're poor and you're in a messed up situation, the ONLY FREAKING ONE able to change things is YOU. Stop complaining and change your life!! Now is the time, if you're really upset about rich people ripping you off. Life ain't fair, you don't get rich being a nice guy... get over it. Again, change is you, all I'm saying.
cadabraa 3 years ago
I wish the whole video was available online, blah, look like I have to buy the VHS
derekbaldwin 3 years ago
LOL.Really smart people did dumb thing,just as Warren Buffett said about them. Eventually,the very same people had to beg Buffett for bailout. Now it repeated again in 2007. Market never changes. Curve-fitting the market,real genius.
glassvision 3 years ago
I was 17 when the Asian tigers fell. I must have slept right through it... watching cartoons
mrzack888 3 years ago
Imagine working to build this country, then finding out that you don't have enough money to buy what you have just created. Bankers have conned us all... We are forced to use a money system that is corrupt by design, stealing from those who create tangible wealth and giving it to those who do nothing for society. See Google Video: Money as Debt - Fiat Empire - Monopoly Men - The Money Masters - Freedom to Fascism - Zeitgeist.
00643981 3 years ago
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Or get a real education not just a dose of youtube and google conspiracy videos?
digitised 3 years ago
Please tell what banks make or what they do or what services they do. They lend money and charge interest on that money. If I could create money and lend it to goverments id be real rich.. Ill lend America 1000000000000000 dollars tommorrow but i want 5 percent interest on that money .. See how banks make money out of thin air.
IveGotTheNuts 3 years ago
My point is that monetary policy is a genuine attempt to control boom bust cycles in the markets. Fiat currency is an alternative to the gold standard, its not just a con by central banks. That is just wild conspiracy theory which is why i disagree with the last post.
Go read real economics books and speak with real economists before you believe what some CTs say.
Milton Friedman (legendary economist and libertarian) agrees with monetery policy, and hes one of Ron Pauls heros.
GO read facts.
digitised 3 years ago
The fed is abusing its position right now to bail out wall street, it needs to let banks and bad investors go bankrupt but at the same time it wants to save the economy from recession by delaying the problems.
If it raised rates it would literally throw people on the streets, put people out of jobs and slow down international markets.
Its not an easy choice to make
There is two sides to the problem, ben bernanke should raise rates but that will have a lot of instant negative effects on trade.
digitised 3 years ago
If the banks were genuinely out to only print money and rob people through inflation then why would america be borrowing billions from China on a daily basis?
Why not just print that money and keep the interest rather than borrowing and paying interest on that?
There are problems in the system but most of these problems are caused by traders/small lenders and their own systems of making money through credit schemes rather than central banks printing up dollars.
Look at derivative markets.
digitised 3 years ago
The government is a main reason why dollars are being printed, if they dont balance budget (and growing governments can never do this) they have to tax more and order the fed to print more dollars to increase their budget and make up shortfall.
Again the central banks are not responsible for this behavior.
My point has hopefully made clear, the current crisis is not driven by the central banks, its a system which lots of players are abusing collectively to achieve wealth or other goals.
digitised 3 years ago
Thankyou for consistenly minusing my comments.
FYI im an economics student and i have watched nearly all of those videos, and they are so wrong in so many ways.
Sure they dress it up well, but they are distorting the reality to suit their own goal of stirring controversy.
How anyone can suggest conspiracy theory movies are in anyway a superior basis of knowledge and facts to actual education and sound research is completely deluded.
Minus me all you want it doesnt make you right.
digitised 3 years ago
digitised, it would be much useful to point out something to read in order to explain what are you talking about, so people can read themselves if they want to. Like this, you're just like the movies.
btw, in eastern countries they do study about this way of banking and they are not really thrilled about it. You think that's just because of different politics?
TruthOrIncredulity 3 years ago
If you want to hit upon this 'huge conspiracy' and read about all its evil secrets and esoteric workings...
Just pick up a basic macroeconomics textbook...
Im not joking its no conspiracy everybody is taught his system of money. Its not a purposeful attempt to rip people off, its a way of increasing 'money quantity'.
What people dont understand is the money supply is also SHRUNK.. such as the great depression... its not just increase all the time to rip people off.
digitised 3 years ago
Just read a book or google something like 'introduction to macroeconomics' and read up on basic principles such as 'aggregate demand' 'consumption function' 'IS LM analysis' 'interst rates' 'money quantity theory' etc
Yes some countries do favour hard money, i prefer tha system because it cannot be abused..however Gold fails too.
President jackson resotored the gold standard, but CTs forget to mention IT FAILED in the usa and was replaced with fiat.
digitised 3 years ago
Money is demanded like all other commodities, people like to finance transactions on credit.
So people use credit to buy goods, as the demand and supply of money increases, the iterest rate rises to slow down this growth (money supply growth causes inflation on prices)
As demand lowers the debts are paid back and the money supply contracts. Bringing prices back down.
Central banks are basically focusing on 'price stability', NOT ripping people off.
Hope this sheds light..
digitised 3 years ago
Well, I think gold standard is not too good either, but that system in which value of currency is determined by the national production (or something like that). This money creation in advance is too greedy.
I'll get to reading those stuff you said and see what will come up.
TruthOrIncredulity 3 years ago
they are made like movies so the average dumb smuck gets a grip comprendeh???? they may not meet with everbodys stadards but they are a good oversight to whats genrally happening
grilfers 3 years ago
sorry but movies like zeitgeist and the money masters do not give people an oversight. They give a 1 sided view that all the central banks are in collusion and trying to install worldwide communism by eliminating the middle class creating a minority of elite, and majority of peasant class citizens who will all be chipped, tagged, shaved and sterilised.
Like i said go read some economics before you fall for this nonsense. Fiat currency is abused, but not for 'those' reasons.
digitised 3 years ago
Looking at your account itt seems you also fell for planetX, eugenics and maybe some other NWO anti-semetic trash.
So maybe you are just more at home with watching conspiracy theory mockumentarys on youtube all day.
See you in 2009 to laugh at you when planet X fails to make any appearance. Laters!
digitised 3 years ago
ps is it anti semetic to study the jew and tell of the many ways in witch hes been dam right unscrupelous ????? let me guess u are a jew ??? well if thats the case yahew follower you aint the fucking chosen people you just chose to make yourselfs that way and people like me would love nothing more than to undo that and in a permanant way to so im anti semetic fuck u cunt and fuck all your jew kind
grilfers 3 years ago
well i no they give a one sided view granted but what media dosent ??? and the shaven headed mases used for the elites whims well we have been there befour and many times aswell so im not sure what you think about that ??? and i never said nowt about 2009 or 2012 i prescribe to the summerian date of 2036 and history teachs us many times over about the smug populace that dont leave when they should and live to regret it so u say no economic crash u say man made global warming and mercury is ok??
grilfers 3 years ago
Terrible guess, look at my account, im blatantly an atheist/agnostic just by my favourites list.
Ive also spent 5 years reading politics, as well as spent the last 2 years at business school studying economics.
The jewish banking conspiracy is mostly based on a book called 'protocals of the elders of zion' which is a proven russian forgery from the late 1800s.
The sumerian stuff is nonsense. Why dont you google the science which refutes it, look at both sides and see which is stronger?
digitised 3 years ago
well then you need to read into it further thease people have been in one way or another running us since the dawn of the city dwelling man to say its not odd? they own media they are very much in parliment world over one way or another the usa would never let anything happen to israel ??? i suggest in fact i beg you to read gods of the new millenium and if at the end of that you still feel they are good people with no adgenda then i will book myself in down the nut house ok sound good to u ???
grilfers 3 years ago
You are being crazy because you are blaming the actions of a handful of individuals on an entire population of 15m.
Sure theres jewish people who use power and influence to secure help for their cause, but to assume they want world domination makes no sense they just want israel and eventually peace.
Religions are based on the arrogance that its followers are right, so you will get perpetuated conflicts when 2 religions collide since both sides believe to the death that they are right.
digitised 3 years ago
Dont forget your nazi friends openly once tried to take over the world and killed millions, i dont see you complaining about that?
This is a huge double standard or a gaping oversight on your behalf.
Middle eastern politics has been fueled by 50 years of hate, both the arabs and jews in the region are so irrational i support neither side. Both are guilty of atrocities, both spread hate and propaganda.
However the jews at least have the decency to keep to ceasefires.
digitised 3 years ago
i agree with your points and find you to be the most rational person commenting on this video post. i'm arabic, and am one to know (or consider) that arab politics are based on illiberal, unprogressive, arrogant, primitive notions that hitherto have not comprehended the relationship between "government" and its clients--to serve to promote civility, that is
ingrained religious culture stymies efforts to repoliticize arab civilization to create a more progessive, forward looking society.
sad
tonikmajor 3 years ago 2
I agree, any soceity which bases its political/social system on undynamic and unquestioned literal adherence to scripture will fail to overcome the inherent flaws in that system.
There is progress being made by younger generations (particularly women) who are fighting to equalize their status with men, but ultimately this could take generations to accomplish.
Im very interested in religion and the irrationality of fundamentalist beliefs, and i have an urge to write a book/esay on it all.
digitised 3 years ago
There is no evidence the jews have run anything since the dawn of time. They were forced out of israel and had nowhere to go and be free to practice their religion.
Learn history and you will see nearly all other religions are hostile towards others, so jews were unfortunate to be in a situation of having to get by in societies that hated them by default.
They were even kicked out of england in the 1200s so i dont see how they had any real power like you suggest?
digitised 3 years ago
g w thiesun read stalins origions read u will richard the lion heart read about crusade money how it was got
grilfers 3 years ago
I just looked up 'gods of the new millenium'
Seriously you live in the clouds, how can you be so foolish to believe in this kind of rubbish?
That 'online book' denies evolution, claims planet X exists, supports the great flood, and talks the usual rubbish about NWO and a bunch of other false history.
PlanetX is a joke among astronomers, Evolution is the most well supported scientific theory there is (check my profile!!) and the rest is equally
fictitious.
digitised 3 years ago
there is no support for evolution its a culdisac of misinformation and cons
grilfers 3 years ago
Whoever told you that is LYING to you, there are religious implications to denying evolution because it conflicts with a literal interpretation of the bible/quran/vedas/torah ..etc
Evolution is proven beyond all doubt with solid evidence you can see, touch, check and quantify.
Visit talkorigins. o r g, check videos by cdk007, donexodus2, extantdodo for irrefutable evidence by SCIENTISTS.
You read pseudoscience written by deluded uneducated people who refute things they dont understand.
digitised 3 years ago
sir you must not be a very good arab or you missed the point of what you was taught because your old advesary the jew is very much a trouble maker and not people with conspiracy theorys to blame for wars and there is no proof of evolution unless you inclue java man and piltdown man lol and you say you are educated lol god bless you my son and you should read some more start with alan arlefords gods of the new milenium try it :)and as for pseudo science well do your homework darwin is full of it
grilfers 3 years ago
Sorry i must have missed something, i was under the impression that 99% of educated historians, astronomers and archeologists completely disagree with planetx.
And 99.98% of educated biologists accept the overwhelming evidence of evolution, as do i.
Keep reading your conspiracy books grilfer, afterall im sure its more exciting than truth. Maybe youll disappear into a bunker for 50 years after 2011 as to miss the catastrophe, and we wont have to put up with your ridiculous statements.
digitised 3 years ago
lol the real date is 2036 and as for truth i take it you are a 911 goverment exsepta ??? what ,many people take for the facts have a nasty way of being the complete untruth and there are so many good esamples to so im open to all i have looked at so far concerning a missed earth history look at the moon it reminds us everyday what we are lucky at the mo to avoid and temples that defy modern building tools and science still upset the apple cart of what is the truth open mind digi mate :)
grilfers 3 years ago
911 was done by islamic hijackers but i cant expect somebody completely lost in fairy tales like 'planetx','evolution hoax' and 'protcocols of zion' to believe anything backed with evidence.
Ive read nearly all these 'theories' out of interest because I AM open minded.
But im also smart enough to see through it all and recognise the danger behind these terrible lies.
You think 99% of educated proffesional scientists and academics are conspiring against humanity?
Thats completely absurd
digitised 3 years ago
i choose not to live my life adopting the ignorance of my forefathers and hating "old adverseries". life is too short. why waste my energy thinking of all these conspiracies? for what? what will it do for me?
nothing.
you should just go get a girl friend. experience sex, and stop being a loser. itll be alot healthier for your psychological development, because as of now, you seem to be regressing into a state of intellectual torpor and unfettered ignorance.
sad
tonikmajor 3 years ago
or better still just carry on as i am im happy hateing you liberal sheepal types fuck yourself heres hopeing i one day get the chance to do it for you cunt :) lots of love
grilfers 3 years ago
dont worry. you will never get the chance.
i dont hate you. i jsut feel bad for u. u must have not recieved love from your failure parents. obviously, you have never had a girlfriend (and will die alone). and surely, you will spend the rest of your life as a loser, in your room, expressing your anger and frustation in the form of youtube comments.
unfortunately, we will never cross paths unless i start a charitable organization that helps losers like you.
there is hope for you: suicide
tonikmajor 3 years ago
lol you really are a liberal cunt are you not :) fuck you and your kind. Liberal hide behind your ideals mate and when it all goes rat shit and it will lock yourself up in your house if its not repossesed and listen out for the door handle bet it,s my type comeing to take your shit and what will you do ?? fuck all because you are a liberal sheeple type who aint got a wank in him cunt :) have a bad day
grilfers 3 years ago
lol. youre a joke. i cant believe i wasted my breath on a degenerate person such as yourself.
just go to school "mate"
dont worry about the rest
tonikmajor 3 years ago
dont waste your breath on my account hold it bye all means
grilfers 3 years ago
wow ignorant pricks like you should suicide tipycall fag that need to express how 1337 they are fail even more
klote2314 3 years ago
LOL did you learn english in an afghani homeless shelter?
tonikmajor 3 years ago
i did
hummer9686 3 years ago
If you have any interest in reality then read material by people who have credentials. Not only are they educated on their field but they also have to make sure their work is backed with evidence or else they can lose their jobs/respect.
If you dont believe any of what im saying is truth, i dont care. You are choosing to delude yourself and maybe nothing i say matters, ive had deceny to inform you that you are horribly wrong because you read dubious sources whose only goal is misinformation.
digitised 3 years ago
unfortunately, life's problems aren't so easily compacted in mere conspiracy theory and rash generalizations.
fortunately, the opinions of uneducated people like you don't matter, and will never matter, and this is a consolation with which I can resolve.
why dont you do something constructive with your life: get an education, get a job, and stop worrying about conspiracies.
p.s. im arab (but educated)
tonikmajor 3 years ago 2