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Pride is a sin, in case you ignoramuses at Fredonia didn't know it. I encountered little in the way of civil intellectual discourse at SUNY Fredonia because most of the students were given over to self deification and emotionalism.
Homosexuality is INDEFENSIBLE and anytime any of you want to debate me on the issue in front of an audience let me know.
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One day every one of us are going to be standing in God's courtroom and most are going to finally realize on that Day that God is completely Just and Holy and you're going to find out too late that He requires and demands holiness from us. Your excuses for sin will not hold any validity before God and it will be His word that will be upheld and not your own. No liar will be allowed into God's kingdom and that includes the liars who have posted their lies under this video. Repent now...
I go to Fredonia. You people should have just ignored him, you fed him what he wanted when you were off trying to prove something. You feel like you did not let him win, but he did by getting you riled up to do something that you normally would not do.
yea i understand what your saying but that is called appeasement. The English did that with Hitler and we all know how successful that was. The simple fact is, is that he was going to get a reaction either by provoking someone to hit him or argue with him. I think for a group of 18-21 year old kids we did a pretty good job controlling a potentially volatile situation. This guy goes campus to campus to be perfectly honest i can not comprehend what good he believes he is doing.
He knows he is not doing good, he is just trying to get money. I also really do not see how ignoring him would have been appeasement. By making a big deal it just made it so he could take something away. You must know the enemy and the best way to defeat them. Ghandi chose civil disobediance to make the British look barbaric during thier "civilizing mission". You people just fed the monster. Also to prove my point no one showed up to his last hate rally, and now he is no longer returning.
I know what you are saying, but im glad we did what we did at both the first and the second time he arrived here. The first time became less of a protest of the man, and more of a celebration of ourselves and our diversity. Despite giving him what he wanted, our entire campus took something away from it as well, a stronger sense of unity and pride. Then, the next time he came and he brought a bigger group with him, we simply ignored him. Both were important events I feel.
I am a PROUD SUNY Fredonia Mom. I was not there either but I wish I was. This nutcase can't debate. He has to throw hate in there it gives him some type of cheap thrill. He has lawsuits against other colleges. Totally uncool. Stand your ground. You Suny students are right. This guy obviously does not serve the Jesus that died on the cross for all of our sins! From listening to him I do not want to know his God. Keep up the good fight you students are doing GREAT!!!!
I slept through it! I keep slapping myself for that! I would've went and supported the other students and had my camera. I needed to sleep and woke up at 6pm, went to Cranny, and found out about this guy. Well, anyone-sorry I didn't go (feel bad) but I am SO HAPPY people came out to show support.
I Corinthians 13:13: And now abideth faith, hope and charity (love)these three:but the greatest of these is charity(love). THE GREATEST OF THESE IS LOVE!!!!! My Lord and Savior is love. Beware of false prophets. Jimbo, is not speaking the word of Jesus Christ. Beware!!
KJV:I Corinthians 13:Though I speak with the tounges of men and of angels and have not charity(love)I become as sounding brassor a tinkling cymbal and though I have the gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge and though I have all faith so that I could move mountains and have not charity (love) I am nothing.
Jimbo,be a man and stop acting like a 5 year old with the name calling.You do not serve the same Savior as Hillzy,Currahee or I for that matter.The God we serve is loving and compassionate.He died on the cross on a hill called Galgotha for the sins of his people.He forgave the thief who was hanging by his side and that very day took him to paradise.God may not like the sin, but he loves the person.I do not know what God you serve,I just know his name is NOT Jesus Christ.The greatest gift is LOVE
We need to debate person to person in public (and I would also love to debate and take the apostate InterVarsity to task for their sins). So, one more thing before I end this YouTube back and forth:
One of Fredonia's philosophy professors wrote an article dated Oct. 29th in the Observer Today. You need to read it! At least there are some at Fredonia that are open to free speech and the challenge of open intellectual dialogue and expression of ideas. Bye.
Why are you in any position to help anyone? What makes you special? You are suppose to be without sin in order to cast the first stone right?You clearly are with sin stop casting the first stone.You are using the bible to further your hate, it is not right.Read the bible, the whole bible, do not just pick out parts. If you believe that God is only hate then you are misguided.
1CORINTHIANS 14:9 says, "So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air."
Do you even know what the definition of a "Nazi" is? Do you even know what the definition of "fascist" is? We need to debate in person at Fredonia, Cory. Set it up, or are you a coward? And yes, Jesus and His disciples used many stong terms to refer to those like yourself and your classmates.
Really? Are you really questioning my history knowledge? Im a history major, I know more about those terms then you will likely ever know. That is why I feel it is important to stand up to people such as yourself. People like you take the extreme view of religion or an ideology and then people get discriminated against, hurt, or even killed. I love how you always seem to resort to name calling, lying about versus, or threatening of lawsuits pretty much whenever you speak.
Why would I want you back on this campus. Thats right because you want to debate me? Thats laughable, you cant even debate in a blog without name calling, lying, or threats. Why would I believe that you could debate in any other way? Also why would you want to debate in front of a crowd? It wouldnt be to show boat would it? Proverbs 16:5"Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord though hand join hand, he shall not be unpunished
In their preface to the 1611 Authorized Version, the translators made it clear that they used different English words for the exact same Greek word because for some Greek words no one English word could fully correspond. In Romans 12:9 the Greek word used is "anupokritos" and it literally means "un-hypocritical". Now "dissimulation" and "dissemble" are archaic and I prefer to abide by the Biblical principle in 1CORINTHIANS 14:9.
I use the New King James in most of my quotes. Why? Because I have found after extensive inquiry and comparison that it is OVERALL the most accurate and consistent in the translation from the Textus Receptus. In the early 1990's I studied through a Textus Receptus interlinear and then laid out 5 versions and made verse by verse, chapter by chapter comparisons. Now some of my KJ Only friends are upset by the NKJV because it will use "Servant" instead of "Son", but that is what the Greek says.
Really you laid out the bibles and went chapter by chapter. My guess is that you just picked the bible that had the words translated in a way that would work for what you wanted to say. What makes you certain that those translations were correct?
Cory, it's time to leave Egypt. You're restricted by and in bondage to your love for the world and your fear of being rejected if you were indeed to take a Biblical stand against sin. You know very well that you're a coward. Jesus COMMANDED that repentance should be PREACHED in His name to all! So why aren't you doing it? Afraid ? I can help you...
Proverbs 10:12"Hatred stirreth up strifes,But love covereth all sins."Do you love in God or Hate in his name?Also Jim it is time you left Nazi Germany and stop believing God is telling you to persecute.
"Why would you pray for hate?" Are you serious? PSALM 97:10 says, "You who love the LORD, hate evil!" That's why! ROMANS 12:9 says, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good." Abhor means to hate with intense aversion and distaste. You apparently love to lie, especially when you give false witness of the Bible and about me and my banners. You know that Jesus preached repentance and Christians should too; that's not hate or condemnation, that's love.
I love to lie?You can not even accurately quote scripture.Romans 12:9:"Let love be without dissimulation.Abhor that which is evil cleave to that which is good"Hypocrisy is only one part of the definition for dissimulation, I would hate to think you would blatantly mis quote scripture to prove your point.Also Abhor is only referring to your opinion it does not refer to persecution.
James 1:19-20 "wherefore my beloved brethren let every man be swift to hear slow to speak, slow to wrath: For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God." Listen to others JIM YOUR WRONG your wrath is not Righteous with God.Anger is not apart of what God wants for the world.Sometimes a soft voice does more then that of hatred.What you are doing is not the work of god it is just hateful rhetoric.Please stop this madness and let God Work believe me is more then cape able.
Psalm 37-8 "Cease from anger and forsake wrath fret no thyself in any wise to do evil"Proverbs 14:17"He that is soon angry dealeth foolishly and a man of wicked devices hated"Proverbs15:1"A soft answer turneth away wrath but grievous words stir up anger"Colossians 3:8 "but noww ye also put off all these anger wrath malice blasphemy filthy communication out of your mouth"
This is NOT a popularity contest, Cory. "Wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction" and Jesus said that MANY will go in by it (Matthew 7:13). And Jesus says in the next verse, "Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
Stop being a coward. Stop loving the world. Ask God through Christ to give you a love for Him, a love for truth, a love for people, and a hatred for sin.
First of all why would you pray for hate?Second of all I didn't need Rebuking from YOU.Don't you get it it's YOU i have the problem with and any other person with the notion that they are so righteous they can condemn others.You keep showing these versus where you are Implying that i am in love with the world.I am saying your methods are wrong.Where in the bible did Jesus go to a college campus and hold a sign condemning a group?I am a Born again Christian.I also have not "praised the wicked"
There is all kinds of compromise among so-called Christians. 1JOHN 2:15-17 "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. "For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father but is of the world. "And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but whoever does the will of God abides forever."
So why do you hate Christians, Cory? You should be ashamed of yourself for hating the things that God loves and loving the things that God hates. Why would you want yourself and other homosexuals to remain in sin? Your unrepentant sin will cause God to separate you from His presence, as Psalm 5, 2 Thess. 1:7-10, and Luke 13:1-5 clearly state.
I'm showing love by rebuking you. Leviticus 19:17 says, "You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him." Read verse 18!
Are you implying i am a homosexual?I am straight.I do not support homosexuality, an i do not "hate Christians."I am a Christian and have been my entire life.I am against those who think that they are so high and mighty they can tell others how to live their lives.If you want to help people help them but don't beat them over the head with the bible.I am not without sin, no one is without sin,however that is between God and I.I am at peace with my relationship with God.Also i am not in need of a
"Rebuking"You have sinned by bearing a grudge against the "children of thy people".Leviticus 19:18. Why are you picking colleges Jim?It is a joke that you believe you are being a good Christian.Why did so many Christians on this campus oppose you?We have Christian organizations here,we have Churches in this town,Why did none of them come and support you?There was a good number of Christians there, why would they not support you?The reason is,is that you are wrong and any good Christian knows it.
That really doesn't prove anything other then you thinking that I am going to endure God's vengeance.Romans 14:17 "The for kingdom of God is not meat and drink:but righteousness and peace, and joy in the holy ghost." 2 Timothy 1:7 "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear but of power and of love and of a sound mind."John 2:9-11 Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. Whoever loves his brother abides in the light
and in him there is no cause for stumbling. But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes." Leviticus 19:18 "Thou shalt not avenge nor bear any grudge against thy children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. I am the Lord" Corinthians 3:15 "Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world,
let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is the foolishness with god. For it is written He taketh the wise in their own craftiness."
These are the same versus i posted to Jim, maybe you'll actually read them instead of trying to find another part of the bible that you think gives you the right to judge and condemn others.
To me it looks like the students of Fredonia matching hateful freedom of speech with their own freedom of speech.The law says freedom of speech is protected,however it does not say freedom to make people listen,or freedom to make them agree with you.
Did you mean suppression?You would do well to use spell check.Also there was no suppression going on,that would imply that we were putting an end to his protest.His protest was not put to an end,the students of Fredonia just chose not to listen to it.
I am afraid to enter into a discussion of scripture with you since your lack of knowledge concerning the contents thereof may put you immediately at a disadvantage.
Then again your english skills have not impacted you college career, go figure!
You would do well to edit what you write before you attack my writing "you college career" I have done the scripture thing with Deferio and his kid already, it doesn't scare me i know my bible. But leave it to you to automatically judge someone, good job! What would you like to do next call me a name, go back and forth a thousand times quoting scripture, or tell me how great of a person Deferio is? Your getting old honestly your not even fun to debate.
Do not question my Knowledge of scripture. You do not know me, do not assume my level of knowledge of scripture. You assume quite a lot, and yet you act as if your winning the argument, its quite amusing.
I am absolutely aghast at your mishandling of the english language & now your lack of scripture knowledge attributing James 4:4 to Jim while it is OBVIOUSLY James!
This is not an "argument" as it is perfectly clear that you mangle the english!
You no (sic) as does anyone who has been hear (sic) for any amount of time, that I am glad you are amused
haha REALLY your aghast at my mishandling of the English language, really... I'm so sorry that a few misspellings has completely turned your world upside down. Also the whole James 4:4 was talking about adultery and taking part in sin. Also i did not say that it was not scripture. I was merely talking of Jim's warped Interpretation of religion and the world. Don't for a second believe i do not know my bible or that your attack on my grammar, that to be honest doesn't matter in a blog hurts me.
Love for the people of the world is not to hate god, Loving your fellow man does not make you a God hating fascist. Jesus preaches love. I have gone back and forth with Jim quoting scripture I have proven I can do that but he can only debate for so long without calling people names or threatening lawsuits. So please excuse me if I do not jump on the POOR JIM Ban Wagon.
He has called the students at Fredonia intolerant God-hating fascists. Why would this man or people around him believe he deserves any respect, when he clearly can not give out respect to others. All Jim has done is threaten lawsuits when he isnt getting his way. If Jim had his way everyone would be persecuting everyone else I mean didnt jim say Friendship with the world is enmity with God I have listened to what Jim has to say and I have to be honest its BS.
Poor Jim!!! He didn't know that coming to a campus with a large gay population, with signs saying gays would go to hell would be met with protest. Poor Jim... How was he helping in Celebrating Diversity? He wasn't celebrating anything, he was telling gays that they were going to go to hell unless they came to his interpretation of Christianity.
Who said anything about "running for class president" obviously you are jealous of those who are obtaining an education. That is the only explanation for your hostility toward college students. Also if you can not enter a debate on religion and argue religion, then leave the debate.If we were debating grammar then your comments would be understandable.
I have no doubt that you are apart of the Deferio group, your close mindedness does nothing for Christianity, except show people that Christians are close minded and filled with hate. That is not something people should attribut with Christianity. Your favorites are filled with anti Catholic and accusing those who disagree with you as ignorant videos
Do you think that making sly comments about my grammar is having you win this argument? Those comments do not help you they actually just further the point I keep making. What education do you have? What was your GPA? Show your transcripts, but seeing as that will not happen lets leave the grades and education out of the equation because I assure you that is not a path you want to go with me. Leave the blog and take your hate elsewhere.
The argument that i have been making is that, why would people be attracted to a religion that is only showing hate?Can you remember that or do i have to repeat it in every comment i post? Thanks for once again taking the argument off course and bringing up Education.However to make you feel better i do not have "2 masters and a PHD in English Lit"I have a Bachelors in History and Social Studies Education.
I do not know what you think the attack on my grammar IN A BLOG is proving, but you really are not making an argument. Please keep your hate to yourself it is not wanted here. Your group is so predictable you want tolerance for yourself yet can not give it to others, and if you can not last in a debate on religion you go to personal attacks. It isn't even laughable anymore it is just sad.
Wow way to prove my point this is why people don't like you, or your group. Also this is why most people hear find you laughable, but hey if you just want to make fun of someones grammar on a blog thats your right. Honestly though, your just proving what i have been saying all along, and that is why would someone want to go to a group that is only showing hate. Is that the path of god you see?
wow way to prove my point this is why people don't like you and your group. Also why most people hear find you laughable, but hey if you just want to make fun of someones grammar on a blog thats your right. Honestly though your just proving that what i have been saying all along, and that is why would someone want to go to a group that is showing only showing hate. Good job.
Hostility is part of the definition of hate? You have proved me wrong, why on earth did I use the word hate. You have in no way shown hostility. Also my grades are fairly good, but leave it to someone like yourself to judge another, you must be without fault.This is the kind of stuff that makes you appear to have the maturity of a 3 years old.
Yea way to change the subject. Also I did not get in on Affirmative Action, secondly I am not majoring in Basket Weaving. I am not going to get in a name calling contest with Jim or any of his affiliates. Your group is not that creative you all have religious videos on your favorites, it is not that hard to figure out. Also this is not a English paper, this is essentially a blog, If you would like to read perfect English, go and read a book. Also if you are going to demean me for my English
You would do well to write properly yourself. You do not capitalize properly, and your English is suspect also "ROTFL" has never been a accepted English word. Since i suspect this is someone through Jim please tell him to fight his own battles. Also you are just furthering what i have been saying why would someone want to turn to Christianity when all they see is hate? on your favorites you have Anti Catholic videos, why would someone want to come to hate. Is that what you think Jesus preached?
OMG THE DARKNESS what is this star wars. Im not going to quote scripture with you, i could and have but the reality is that we would just go back and forth like we have up until this point. I'm not going to even check the psalm to see if your right you have been wrong in the past but ill let that slide for the sake of not being redundant.
And for your quote i don't see any coals, fire and brimstone burning in my cup right now thats orange soda. You are a joke something to be made fun of and not taken serious. I have debated you as well as your son and the reality is that both of you say the same thing that you can judge others i do not agree but the reality is, you are not converting or helping people by beating them over the head with the bible. Its old its dumb you are a joke, god is not on your side check yourself into a
mental facility. I read the same bible you claim to read and know the meaning of. You don't because god is love, he did not go to you and say "Jim go to campuses and persecute homosexuals, thus allowing the opportunity for young people to riot" You are a joke people know what you are doing you are not crafty your actually quite predictable, you are not the first horrible person i have seen hide behind a bible and cast judgment onto others and will likely not be the last. You people use the same
versus. That are typically taken out of context or refuted somewhere else in the bible. So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do the rest of the world a favor and SHUT UP!!!! maybe will all burn to the ground and then you can sit back and say i told you so but seeing as i dont see any coals or brimstone in my cup of orange soda and i am late for my cult meetings since i am a sinner and all
I feel like you went on one of those online bible verse websites and just looked up those verses. Hey you should probably put some verses in there that don't speak about how much God hates, maybe about how he loves. He loves us all, including you. You take things out of context, and only show certain things. You're like the media, show the bad, but not the good. As much as I disapprove of you I wish you well. Good luck spreading false testimony and making Christianity look bad.
Guys, don't give power to hate. For me the protest wasn't for Jim, it was for the people he hurt. It was to show we were there for them. The best way to give power to evil is to pay attention to it and feed it. Remember, God loves love not hate. So ignore those who spread hate and let them die out. They enjoy making us mad like this, so just don't feed into them. It's not our job to pass judgement. They'll get theirs eventually.
You sound immature,Cory, and you're a very poor writer. Stop! You are just bringing more shame to SUNY Fredonia. My college degrees are in science also, so what is your point? You can't spot the counterfeit (in this case the cult of Unitarianism-Universalists) because you have not the foggiest notion what the real is. Jesus Himself opposed the Herodians, the Sadducees, the Pharisees, and the religious scribes of the 1st century. So did His disciples. "Contend earnestly for the faith" (Jude 3)
Well thanks Jim for your opinion of my maturity level. I would think that someone who goes to campuses and gets young people riled up would not call someone else immature. Also Jim I did not realize that this was a English essay, if so why don't you write properly and cite your source and the end of every post. Remember you can not lie about what that source says or you may be in some trouble tis tis. As far as my remark about the Computer Science Professor i am sorry if you lack the
Intellect to see why i may suggest someone Who's degree is in Computer Science might not be a great opposition in a Theological debate. I have shown i can quote scripture with you but that obviously will get the two of us anywhere.You keep bringing up that you went to Fredonia. What was your major Jim? Was it a Degree in Discrimination? When did you attend? The Stone age? I bet it was when Fredonia had much weaker admissions standards. Just a hunch.
Furthermore Jim how can you call others immature with statements like "Intolerant God hates" Threatening me with fire and brimstone, Saying that not one of us new are bibles. Are you kidding me? wow you show a extremely high maturity level. I wonder what your response will be will it be a scripture where i am threatened with hell? or will it be a statement talking about how im in a cult? Wow Jim its like i know what your going to write.
Cory, so what else do you do for entertainment? FYI I have been to 51 colleges/universities and I have NEVER been involved in a lawsuit with any; nor have I ever sued a college student. This malicious rumor was started in Oct. 2007 by the cult known as the Unitarian-Universalists. One of their leaders from the Harrisburg, PA area is a Computer Science Professor at Millersville Univ. I have challenged this guy to a theological debate at least 3 times and he remains "silent". That's the fact Jack
I love how other groups are "cults" you challenged a computer science professor to a theological debate? wow way to really challenge yourself there. As for entertainment i go around to colleges putting down different groups believing that it will some how get me into heaven because i obviously am not good enough of a person to get in on merit without putting down other groups. Wait that isn't me it sounds like someone i have met though..... But what do i know I'm a god hating fascist right?
You state, "in a more congenial fashion". Do you know anything about me besides what the homofascists and feminazis on college campuses write? I was actually beginning to use presuppositional and classical apologetics with the Fredonia students who were sitting on the steps. They were raising their hands and asking questions and it was going fairly well until the intolerant God-hating fascists arrived. BTW, Hugh Ross is in serious error, and Ravi Zacharias' ecumenism is unBiblical.
haha "it was going fairly well until the intolerant God-hating fascists arrived." haha so we were fascists who hate god? Really??? you are a funny funny man. Why would anyone take u seriously. You want tolerance to express your views yet you say that quote. really your a joke its sad you cant see how pathetic you are. So how is that lawsuit going?????? Was the kid a God-hating fascist?
I have to hand it to you Sam, you're a first class liar. But hey, if you think you're so smart, why don't you debate me? Or are you also yellow besides pink.
i actually go to school at fredonia and was at this protest. WE are the tolerant ones. He came preaching hate against gays jews blacks and basically anyone who wasnt white. we held a sheet over him and drowned him out and had a party so he couldnt be heard spreading hate. We are tolerant of our peers, whether they be homosexual, black, white purple orange whatever.
TOLERANT: showing respect for the rights or opinions or practices of others
INTOLERANT: not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners, etc., different from one's own, as in political or religious matters; BIGOTED
MOB: A large disorderly crowd or throng
Why didn't really show your toleration by wrapping him in a sheet? Funny that you picked a white sheet. Do you burn crosses also?
Ask your philosophy dept. if they would be willing to consider hosting a qualified speaker to present the Christian worldview in an organized forum. There are educated apologists that would be willing to address this issue in a more congenial fashion. Thanks.
How hard it must be to accept that our school could not supply you with a lawsuit to fund your family "caravan" to travel the country, but we students at SUNY Fredonia really DONT LIKE PEOPLE TAKING AWAY OUR EDUCATIONAL MONEY.
We don't go out looking for lawsuits. You college student just can't be content unless you are working on some kind of conspiracy theory. We pay our own way with our own money.
BTW...when you say "our educational money" I'm assuming you are including OUR tax money in that statement...
Can we at least get a "thank you" from you for helping to provide you with an education?
Actually mine comes from loans but thanks for playing. O but thank you for coming to our school and putting down our student body o what an honor it truly was. And if you think going to a school preaching against that student body doesn't leave a high probability of something happening then your naive. If that is what you are doing going from college to college then you are looking for a lawsuit.
Civility of response is in the hands of the students. Again...nobody is looking for a lawsuit...just wanting to see people be set free from their sins and be redeemed by Jesus Christ. Sometimes that message makes people angry.
or sometimes what makes people angry is calling them "intolerant god haters" or a "Hypocrite" or claiming "not one of you there new your bible" that tends to make people angry. There is a difference between spreading the word of god and what you are doing i don't understand what is so difficult that you can not see that.
Wow you would want to bring anger into a house of God? Because i have seen you speak and i don't think you are capable of having a peaceful debate. What are you going to call her a "intolerant God Hater" or just threaten a lawsuit if you don't agree with her?
You are a sad, sick man. The bible warns about people like you. But God loves you anyway, and he loves me, and all my classmates at Fredonia. I often pray for you, that you will find what it is you are missing in your life, that makes you spread such hatred, and make God look hateful. I'm Catholic, and that is NOT my God. My God is loving, and forgiving.
And once again...
The 9th Commandment.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
OMG I can not believe he is trying to do this again on YouTube! What a deusch, Fuck you Jim, You don't know shit about how God feels towards his human beings, U R just a CON MAN trying to get a punch in order to sue the school that you try to provoke violence in, We know we all heard about Brockport and everything, you are a selfish bastard and I hope that you will be greeted into hell for the injustice you have caused amongst peaceful, righteous, and loving people of Fredonia. Take that MF!!!!
Now it's time that I step in. currahee 54, if you are trying to say that I was screaming obscenities at Fredonia, then you may be in some legal trouble. Clarify please. There is no way in the world you can back up that malicious and harmful statement. I quoted much Scripture at Fredonia and laid a strong basis from history, logic, etc. as to why the Bible is trustworthy. It was going good until you and the other intolerant God haters showed up to drown me out. Not one of you knew the Bible.
Just as you would be if you suggest i am a "god hater. Obscenities can be defined as The state or quality of being obscene. You were there speaking against home sexuality. You may want you clarify the "not one of you knew the bible" because that also may be defamation. I know my bible. You gave not historical proof that i heard and i was there for several hours of it and certainly no logic that i could agree with. I believe you did more harm then good there. Your way of preaching was what i
refer to as "beating someone over the head with the bible" The way you were there in my opinion turns more people away from Christianity then it brings to it. Now is it true that you have a lawsuit with Suny Buffalo? Why are you so quick to threaten legal action to have your rights protected yet you seem to be so intolerant of other peoples rights. This is America and you as well as i are entitled to our obviously separate opinions. I have backed up my definition and my argument please do not
threaten me with a legal preceding. I am not intimidated so please do not threaten me with such a statement. The simple fact is that you went to a campus to preach anti-homosexuality where there is a large homo-sexual population. The only logical reason for that is to get college student to act irrationally. This was not set up as a debate this was set up as a protest, at a place where you know there are going to be some immature people. That is the only logical reason i see for you picking a
college campus and having picked college campuses. I am a Christian to sir, i do not agree with homosexuality however it is not my place to go out and judge that is gods place. You claiming to be a man of god should realize that god is powerful enough to change anything he so desires. And i can guarantee no where in the bible does it say Jim Deferio go do thy judging. I know my bible, i know my religion. Please do not insult my intelligence. We had students quote scripture to you how is that not
an example of people at that campus knowing there bible. Also sir as for your comment about us drowning you out. I hate to break it to you but that is not infringement on your rights. You had a questionable protest to begin with because a reasonable person could assume that it was slander speech you can not prove anyone who is gay is going to hell. which yes i heard you say. Also the first amendment is freedom of speech and expression. That is not freedom to be heard. You can say just about
anything you desire, however that does not mean people have to hear it. We also sir have freedom of speech and expression. Are speech was against your view of the bible, how it related to Christianity, and are expression was through music and dance. You had your speeches, and your expression was the signs. So to sum up what i am saying sir i highly doubt Suny Fredonia as a whole wants you at Fredonia, i did not agree with your view of Christianity, and do not threaten me with a lawsuit.
Please sir i do not want to hear you or your families views any longer. i don't agree with them nor will i. I have tried giving biblical versus but its obvious you do not wish to head them. So please save your views for people who care enough to hear them. May God some day open your eyes.
Jimbo,I am a Fredonia Mom.I am extremely proud of every single student that stood up to your misconceptions.These are very smart individuals for they know a false prophet when they hear one.Your threats to the students make me extremely angry.You see I am a youth pastor with a legal background.You dressing in sheeps clothing has fooled not one person.We can see underneath the costume.If you want to debate I will debate you but stop the insults and threats, be a man and prove your words.
I was one of the ones over there. We were not with him we were actually debating him please don't think that we were with that awful guy. He made no coherent points and as a Christian i could not let him make Christians look that thick headed and immoral.
No friendship and love is what god preaches. Hatred and persecution is what god speaks against. You are the one that was there to get a rise out of people to insight a riot, My god would not want people getting hurt my god would want everyone to live in harmony. I am sorry if you have a warped interpretation of the bible and gods teachings. You're hateful comments are not welcome at Suny Fredonia, and you do not represent Christians you are what is known as a false prophet.
You obviously have a problem with scripture. You are not a christian, and your are right...when you start talking about "my god"
YOUR god would preach friendship with the world because he does not exist. I simply quoted scripture(James4:4)...and you have a problem with it.
I am Jim's son...not Jim.
Jesus came to bring a sword and to call sinners to repentance. Please...I know you are probably 18 or 19 yrs old and sound very immature...you need to read the bible, obey the bible, and get saved.
Read your own words "Jesus came to bring a sword and to call sinners to repentance." Is you, your sister, or your father Jesus? Let Jesus decided who the sinners are. Would Jesus want you to judge others? Because i believe Jesus talks about those who are without sin casting the first stone. You are clearly with sin, so do not be casting any stone. Jesus Associated himself with Mary Magdalene? Wasn't she a sinner? I doubt he was outside her house with a sign screaming obscenities.
Also "sir" i am 21 years old, i have been a member of countless churches, and have been a Christian my entire life. I love how you can switch between the gospel, to society norms, to the constitution. Gospel when you want to persecute, society when you mean to discount another, and the constitution when you want to have your rights protected. You seem conflicted. You cant expect your rights to be protected if you wont do the same for others, and i have a feeling Jesus would not support you 3.
It looks like six or eight Fredonia students were standing with the evangalist. I wonder if there were any reprecussions for their actions ... I'm proud of the SUNY Fredonia students for not allowing that man to spread his hate.
It was absolutely awesome, I gave a speech there and everything and it was so great how we came together as a school and a community to have this CON MAN's voice not be heard with such messages of promoting violence, hate, and intolerance, we should all remember this day for all our lives and be very proud of what we accomplished,even if the Channel 4 News broadcasted the reversed side of this event. Be Happy with who you are,and what you are don't let people like this Jim person bring you down!
Your in the wrong country my friend. You not allowing freedom of speech is not something to celebrate. You'd be better off in a Islamic country. Your so intolerant!
You were the guy that was there giving the speech. Are country allows freedom of speech but that does not mean freedom to make people listen to hateful comments. As far as the "Islamic country" goes, you had Islamic quotes with you that day, so obviously Islam doesn't bother you.
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Pride is a sin, in case you ignoramuses at Fredonia didn't know it. I encountered little in the way of civil intellectual discourse at SUNY Fredonia because most of the students were given over to self deification and emotionalism.
Homosexuality is INDEFENSIBLE and anytime any of you want to debate me on the issue in front of an audience let me know.
JimDeferio 1 year ago
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One day every one of us are going to be standing in God's courtroom and most are going to finally realize on that Day that God is completely Just and Holy and you're going to find out too late that He requires and demands holiness from us. Your excuses for sin will not hold any validity before God and it will be His word that will be upheld and not your own. No liar will be allowed into God's kingdom and that includes the liars who have posted their lies under this video. Repent now...
JimDeferio 2 years ago
Get the porn off of your computer and read the Bible!
JimDeferio 2 years ago
I go to Fredonia. You people should have just ignored him, you fed him what he wanted when you were off trying to prove something. You feel like you did not let him win, but he did by getting you riled up to do something that you normally would not do.
Pipthewise 2 years ago
yea i understand what your saying but that is called appeasement. The English did that with Hitler and we all know how successful that was. The simple fact is, is that he was going to get a reaction either by provoking someone to hit him or argue with him. I think for a group of 18-21 year old kids we did a pretty good job controlling a potentially volatile situation. This guy goes campus to campus to be perfectly honest i can not comprehend what good he believes he is doing.
currahee54 2 years ago
He knows he is not doing good, he is just trying to get money. I also really do not see how ignoring him would have been appeasement. By making a big deal it just made it so he could take something away. You must know the enemy and the best way to defeat them. Ghandi chose civil disobediance to make the British look barbaric during thier "civilizing mission". You people just fed the monster. Also to prove my point no one showed up to his last hate rally, and now he is no longer returning.
Pipthewise 2 years ago
I know what you are saying, but im glad we did what we did at both the first and the second time he arrived here. The first time became less of a protest of the man, and more of a celebration of ourselves and our diversity. Despite giving him what he wanted, our entire campus took something away from it as well, a stronger sense of unity and pride. Then, the next time he came and he brought a bigger group with him, we simply ignored him. Both were important events I feel.
Tstormggg 2 years ago
my sister goes here she has a talk radio show
NotsoSimpleToday 3 years ago
I am a PROUD SUNY Fredonia Mom. I was not there either but I wish I was. This nutcase can't debate. He has to throw hate in there it gives him some type of cheap thrill. He has lawsuits against other colleges. Totally uncool. Stand your ground. You Suny students are right. This guy obviously does not serve the Jesus that died on the cross for all of our sins! From listening to him I do not want to know his God. Keep up the good fight you students are doing GREAT!!!!
wzkz 3 years ago
I slept through it! I keep slapping myself for that! I would've went and supported the other students and had my camera. I needed to sleep and woke up at 6pm, went to Cranny, and found out about this guy. Well, anyone-sorry I didn't go (feel bad) but I am SO HAPPY people came out to show support.
notlqueen 3 years ago
Rock on, Fredonia!!!
DanielleLeigh87 3 years ago
It also looks like WZKZ knows there stuff. Yet i still doubt you will listen.
currahee54 3 years ago
I Corinthians 13:13: And now abideth faith, hope and charity (love)these three:but the greatest of these is charity(love). THE GREATEST OF THESE IS LOVE!!!!! My Lord and Savior is love. Beware of false prophets. Jimbo, is not speaking the word of Jesus Christ. Beware!!
wzkz 3 years ago
KJV:I Corinthians 13:Though I speak with the tounges of men and of angels and have not charity(love)I become as sounding brassor a tinkling cymbal and though I have the gift of prophecy and understand all mysteries and all knowledge and though I have all faith so that I could move mountains and have not charity (love) I am nothing.
wzkz 3 years ago
Jimbo,be a man and stop acting like a 5 year old with the name calling.You do not serve the same Savior as Hillzy,Currahee or I for that matter.The God we serve is loving and compassionate.He died on the cross on a hill called Galgotha for the sins of his people.He forgave the thief who was hanging by his side and that very day took him to paradise.God may not like the sin, but he loves the person.I do not know what God you serve,I just know his name is NOT Jesus Christ.The greatest gift is LOVE
wzkz 3 years ago
We need to debate person to person in public (and I would also love to debate and take the apostate InterVarsity to task for their sins). So, one more thing before I end this YouTube back and forth:
One of Fredonia's philosophy professors wrote an article dated Oct. 29th in the Observer Today. You need to read it! At least there are some at Fredonia that are open to free speech and the challenge of open intellectual dialogue and expression of ideas. Bye.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Why are you in any position to help anyone? What makes you special? You are suppose to be without sin in order to cast the first stone right?You clearly are with sin stop casting the first stone.You are using the bible to further your hate, it is not right.Read the bible, the whole bible, do not just pick out parts. If you believe that God is only hate then you are misguided.
currahee54 3 years ago
1CORINTHIANS 14:9 says, "So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air."
Do you even know what the definition of a "Nazi" is? Do you even know what the definition of "fascist" is? We need to debate in person at Fredonia, Cory. Set it up, or are you a coward? And yes, Jesus and His disciples used many stong terms to refer to those like yourself and your classmates.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Really? Are you really questioning my history knowledge? Im a history major, I know more about those terms then you will likely ever know. That is why I feel it is important to stand up to people such as yourself. People like you take the extreme view of religion or an ideology and then people get discriminated against, hurt, or even killed. I love how you always seem to resort to name calling, lying about versus, or threatening of lawsuits pretty much whenever you speak.
currahee54 3 years ago
Why would I want you back on this campus. Thats right because you want to debate me? Thats laughable, you cant even debate in a blog without name calling, lying, or threats. Why would I believe that you could debate in any other way? Also why would you want to debate in front of a crowd? It wouldnt be to show boat would it? Proverbs 16:5"Every one that is proud in heart is an abomination to the Lord though hand join hand, he shall not be unpunished
currahee54 3 years ago
James 4:6 God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
currahee54 3 years ago
In their preface to the 1611 Authorized Version, the translators made it clear that they used different English words for the exact same Greek word because for some Greek words no one English word could fully correspond. In Romans 12:9 the Greek word used is "anupokritos" and it literally means "un-hypocritical". Now "dissimulation" and "dissemble" are archaic and I prefer to abide by the Biblical principle in 1CORINTHIANS 14:9.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
I use the New King James in most of my quotes. Why? Because I have found after extensive inquiry and comparison that it is OVERALL the most accurate and consistent in the translation from the Textus Receptus. In the early 1990's I studied through a Textus Receptus interlinear and then laid out 5 versions and made verse by verse, chapter by chapter comparisons. Now some of my KJ Only friends are upset by the NKJV because it will use "Servant" instead of "Son", but that is what the Greek says.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Really you laid out the bibles and went chapter by chapter. My guess is that you just picked the bible that had the words translated in a way that would work for what you wanted to say. What makes you certain that those translations were correct?
currahee54 3 years ago
Do not call me a "Coward" Once again you can not come up with a legitimate argument and you have to resort to name calling GOOD JOB!!!
currahee54 3 years ago
wow
hillzy54 3 years ago
I don't understand how one can claim to be preaching love when they tell others that God hates them and they are going to hell...
jjimmycarterc 3 years ago
lol I see Nate Bailey in his lumberjack jacket
good times here
jjimmycarterc 3 years ago
Cory, it's time to leave Egypt. You're restricted by and in bondage to your love for the world and your fear of being rejected if you were indeed to take a Biblical stand against sin. You know very well that you're a coward. Jesus COMMANDED that repentance should be PREACHED in His name to all! So why aren't you doing it? Afraid ? I can help you...
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Proverbs 10:12"Hatred stirreth up strifes,But love covereth all sins."Do you love in God or Hate in his name?Also Jim it is time you left Nazi Germany and stop believing God is telling you to persecute.
hillzy54 3 years ago
"Why would you pray for hate?" Are you serious? PSALM 97:10 says, "You who love the LORD, hate evil!" That's why! ROMANS 12:9 says, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good." Abhor means to hate with intense aversion and distaste. You apparently love to lie, especially when you give false witness of the Bible and about me and my banners. You know that Jesus preached repentance and Christians should too; that's not hate or condemnation, that's love.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
I love to lie?You can not even accurately quote scripture.Romans 12:9:"Let love be without dissimulation.Abhor that which is evil cleave to that which is good"Hypocrisy is only one part of the definition for dissimulation, I would hate to think you would blatantly mis quote scripture to prove your point.Also Abhor is only referring to your opinion it does not refer to persecution.
currahee54 3 years ago
James 1:19-20 "wherefore my beloved brethren let every man be swift to hear slow to speak, slow to wrath: For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God." Listen to others JIM YOUR WRONG your wrath is not Righteous with God.Anger is not apart of what God wants for the world.Sometimes a soft voice does more then that of hatred.What you are doing is not the work of god it is just hateful rhetoric.Please stop this madness and let God Work believe me is more then cape able.
currahee54 3 years ago
Psalm 37-8 "Cease from anger and forsake wrath fret no thyself in any wise to do evil"Proverbs 14:17"He that is soon angry dealeth foolishly and a man of wicked devices hated"Proverbs15:1"A soft answer turneth away wrath but grievous words stir up anger"Colossians 3:8 "but noww ye also put off all these anger wrath malice blasphemy filthy communication out of your mouth"
currahee54 3 years ago
This is NOT a popularity contest, Cory. "Wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction" and Jesus said that MANY will go in by it (Matthew 7:13). And Jesus says in the next verse, "Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."
Stop being a coward. Stop loving the world. Ask God through Christ to give you a love for Him, a love for truth, a love for people, and a hatred for sin.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
First of all why would you pray for hate?Second of all I didn't need Rebuking from YOU.Don't you get it it's YOU i have the problem with and any other person with the notion that they are so righteous they can condemn others.You keep showing these versus where you are Implying that i am in love with the world.I am saying your methods are wrong.Where in the bible did Jesus go to a college campus and hold a sign condemning a group?I am a Born again Christian.I also have not "praised the wicked"
currahee54 3 years ago
There is all kinds of compromise among so-called Christians. 1JOHN 2:15-17 "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. "For all that is in the world - the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life - is not of the Father but is of the world. "And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but whoever does the will of God abides forever."
JimDeferio 3 years ago
PROVERBS 28:23
"He who rebukes a man will find more favor afterward Than he who flatters with the tongue."
PROVERBS 27:5
"Open rebuke is better Than love carefully concealed."
PROVERBS 17:15
"He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the just, Both of them alike are an abomination to the LORD."
You need to be born again, Cory. Don't deceive yourself.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
PROVERBS 28:4
"Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, But such as keep the law contend with them."
PROVERBS 28:9
"One who turns his ear from hearing the law, Even his prayer is an abomination."
PROVERBS 28:13
"He who covers his sins will not prosper, But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy."
JimDeferio 3 years ago
So why do you hate Christians, Cory? You should be ashamed of yourself for hating the things that God loves and loving the things that God hates. Why would you want yourself and other homosexuals to remain in sin? Your unrepentant sin will cause God to separate you from His presence, as Psalm 5, 2 Thess. 1:7-10, and Luke 13:1-5 clearly state.
I'm showing love by rebuking you. Leviticus 19:17 says, "You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him." Read verse 18!
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Are you implying i am a homosexual?I am straight.I do not support homosexuality, an i do not "hate Christians."I am a Christian and have been my entire life.I am against those who think that they are so high and mighty they can tell others how to live their lives.If you want to help people help them but don't beat them over the head with the bible.I am not without sin, no one is without sin,however that is between God and I.I am at peace with my relationship with God.Also i am not in need of a
currahee54 3 years ago
"Rebuking"You have sinned by bearing a grudge against the "children of thy people".Leviticus 19:18. Why are you picking colleges Jim?It is a joke that you believe you are being a good Christian.Why did so many Christians on this campus oppose you?We have Christian organizations here,we have Churches in this town,Why did none of them come and support you?There was a good number of Christians there, why would they not support you?The reason is,is that you are wrong and any good Christian knows it.
currahee54 3 years ago
i read the name of bdplist instead of deferio but the versus still apply.
currahee54 3 years ago
VERSES curry!
bdplist 3 years ago
Only a FOOL would argue with Scripture!
2 THESSALONIANS 1:7-10,
"...when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,
in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
when He comes in that Day to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe,"
JimDeferio 3 years ago
That really doesn't prove anything other then you thinking that I am going to endure God's vengeance.Romans 14:17 "The for kingdom of God is not meat and drink:but righteousness and peace, and joy in the holy ghost." 2 Timothy 1:7 "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear but of power and of love and of a sound mind."John 2:9-11 Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. Whoever loves his brother abides in the light
currahee54 3 years ago
and in him there is no cause for stumbling. But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes." Leviticus 19:18 "Thou shalt not avenge nor bear any grudge against thy children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. I am the Lord" Corinthians 3:15 "Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world,
currahee54 3 years ago
let him become a fool, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is the foolishness with god. For it is written He taketh the wise in their own craftiness."
These are the same versus i posted to Jim, maybe you'll actually read them instead of trying to find another part of the bible that you think gives you the right to judge and condemn others.
currahee54 3 years ago
To me it looks like the students of Fredonia matching hateful freedom of speech with their own freedom of speech.The law says freedom of speech is protected,however it does not say freedom to make people listen,or freedom to make them agree with you.
currahee54 3 years ago
Did you mean suppression?You would do well to use spell check.Also there was no suppression going on,that would imply that we were putting an end to his protest.His protest was not put to an end,the students of Fredonia just chose not to listen to it.
currahee54 3 years ago
Poor Jim came to campus to help you folks CELEBRATE DIVERSITY, but when you actually saw it for the first time you recoiled in horror!
Perhaps you are ALL too UNINFORMED and too INARTICULATE TO REBUT his beliefs
Of course, this presumes you even know what he was espousing, since you were not practicing much in the way of listening arts.
You NO, (sic) collage (sic) students are just two (sic) much these days! LOL
bdplist 3 years ago
"argue scripture with you"?
I am afraid to enter into a discussion of scripture with you since your lack of knowledge concerning the contents thereof may put you immediately at a disadvantage.
Then again your english skills have not impacted you college career, go figure!
bdplist 3 years ago
You would do well to edit what you write before you attack my writing "you college career" I have done the scripture thing with Deferio and his kid already, it doesn't scare me i know my bible. But leave it to you to automatically judge someone, good job! What would you like to do next call me a name, go back and forth a thousand times quoting scripture, or tell me how great of a person Deferio is? Your getting old honestly your not even fun to debate.
currahee54 3 years ago
Do not question my Knowledge of scripture. You do not know me, do not assume my level of knowledge of scripture. You assume quite a lot, and yet you act as if your winning the argument, its quite amusing.
currahee54 3 years ago
What is it that you do not get?
I am absolutely aghast at your mishandling of the english language & now your lack of scripture knowledge attributing James 4:4 to Jim while it is OBVIOUSLY James!
This is not an "argument" as it is perfectly clear that you mangle the english!
You no (sic) as does anyone who has been hear (sic) for any amount of time, that I am glad you are amused
bdplist 3 years ago
haha REALLY your aghast at my mishandling of the English language, really... I'm so sorry that a few misspellings has completely turned your world upside down. Also the whole James 4:4 was talking about adultery and taking part in sin. Also i did not say that it was not scripture. I was merely talking of Jim's warped Interpretation of religion and the world. Don't for a second believe i do not know my bible or that your attack on my grammar, that to be honest doesn't matter in a blog hurts me.
currahee54 3 years ago
Love for the people of the world is not to hate god, Loving your fellow man does not make you a God hating fascist. Jesus preaches love. I have gone back and forth with Jim quoting scripture I have proven I can do that but he can only debate for so long without calling people names or threatening lawsuits. So please excuse me if I do not jump on the POOR JIM Ban Wagon.
currahee54 3 years ago
He has called the students at Fredonia intolerant God-hating fascists. Why would this man or people around him believe he deserves any respect, when he clearly can not give out respect to others. All Jim has done is threaten lawsuits when he isnt getting his way. If Jim had his way everyone would be persecuting everyone else I mean didnt jim say Friendship with the world is enmity with God I have listened to what Jim has to say and I have to be honest its BS.
currahee54 3 years ago
No jim did not say that. God said it James 4:4
Did you mean you listened to what God had to say and frankly...
You quoting scripture?
You never cease to amaze me. Are you playing a prank on me?
bdplist 3 years ago
Poor Jim!!! He didn't know that coming to a campus with a large gay population, with signs saying gays would go to hell would be met with protest. Poor Jim... How was he helping in Celebrating Diversity? He wasn't celebrating anything, he was telling gays that they were going to go to hell unless they came to his interpretation of Christianity.
currahee54 3 years ago
Poor Jim came to campus to help you folks CELEBRATE DIVERSITY, but when you actually saw it for the first time you recoiled in horror!
Perhaps you are ALL too UNINFORMED and too INARTICULATE TO REBUT his beliefs
Of course, this presumes you even know what he was espousing, since you were not practicing much in the way of listening arts.
You NO, (sic) collage (sic) students are just two (sic) much these days! LOL
bdplist 3 years ago
Who said anything about "running for class president" obviously you are jealous of those who are obtaining an education. That is the only explanation for your hostility toward college students. Also if you can not enter a debate on religion and argue religion, then leave the debate.If we were debating grammar then your comments would be understandable.
currahee54 3 years ago
I have no doubt that you are apart of the Deferio group, your close mindedness does nothing for Christianity, except show people that Christians are close minded and filled with hate. That is not something people should attribut with Christianity. Your favorites are filled with anti Catholic and accusing those who disagree with you as ignorant videos
currahee54 3 years ago
Do you think that making sly comments about my grammar is having you win this argument? Those comments do not help you they actually just further the point I keep making. What education do you have? What was your GPA? Show your transcripts, but seeing as that will not happen lets leave the grades and education out of the equation because I assure you that is not a path you want to go with me. Leave the blog and take your hate elsewhere.
currahee54 3 years ago
What argument? Have you mounted one?
I bet you have 2 masters & a PHD in English Lit?
bdplist 3 years ago
The argument that i have been making is that, why would people be attracted to a religion that is only showing hate?Can you remember that or do i have to repeat it in every comment i post? Thanks for once again taking the argument off course and bringing up Education.However to make you feel better i do not have "2 masters and a PHD in English Lit"I have a Bachelors in History and Social Studies Education.
currahee54 3 years ago
I do not know what you think the attack on my grammar IN A BLOG is proving, but you really are not making an argument. Please keep your hate to yourself it is not wanted here. Your group is so predictable you want tolerance for yourself yet can not give it to others, and if you can not last in a debate on religion you go to personal attacks. It isn't even laughable anymore it is just sad.
currahee54 3 years ago
What are you laughing at? LOL
"Also this is why most people hear find you laughable"
How are your grades?
bdplist 3 years ago
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Wow way to prove my point this is why people don't like you, or your group. Also this is why most people hear find you laughable, but hey if you just want to make fun of someones grammar on a blog thats your right. Honestly though, your just proving what i have been saying all along, and that is why would someone want to go to a group that is only showing hate. Is that the path of god you see?
currahee54 3 years ago
Honestly can you guys come up with a decent argument without name calling? Or trying to take the argument off topic? Honestly you look bad...
currahee54 3 years ago
Just what we need an agnostic preaching & teaching about the proper practice of Christianity. LOL
bdplist 3 years ago
wow way to prove my point this is why people don't like you and your group. Also why most people hear find you laughable, but hey if you just want to make fun of someones grammar on a blog thats your right. Honestly though your just proving that what i have been saying all along, and that is why would someone want to go to a group that is showing only showing hate. Good job.
currahee54 3 years ago
I am not running for class president I will leave that for you Sophomores
bdplist 3 years ago
In the interest of better discernment
HATE: intense dislike; extreme aversion or hostility.
CORRECTION: Something offered or substituted for a mistake or fault
Oh yeah
DISCERNMENT: acuteness of judgment and understanding.
bdplist 3 years ago
Hostility is part of the definition of hate? You have proved me wrong, why on earth did I use the word hate. You have in no way shown hostility. Also my grades are fairly good, but leave it to someone like yourself to judge another, you must be without fault.This is the kind of stuff that makes you appear to have the maturity of a 3 years old.
currahee54 3 years ago
Are you going to be a teacher when you grad?
Wait don't tell me you want to teach English....
"You people use the same versus"
"Saying that not one of us new are bibles"
ROTFL
bdplist 3 years ago
if u check i was quoting them ROTFL!!!
currahee54 3 years ago
Are you getting a degree in basket weaving?
Did you get accepted thru Affirmative Action?
bdplist 3 years ago
AFA " "
No surprise that "school" never taught you to use the quote symbol (ascii 34)
They are probably concerned that it would damage your self esteem
bdplist 3 years ago
Yea way to change the subject. Also I did not get in on Affirmative Action, secondly I am not majoring in Basket Weaving. I am not going to get in a name calling contest with Jim or any of his affiliates. Your group is not that creative you all have religious videos on your favorites, it is not that hard to figure out. Also this is not a English paper, this is essentially a blog, If you would like to read perfect English, go and read a book. Also if you are going to demean me for my English
currahee54 3 years ago
yeA but you is the "collage" student
bdplist 3 years ago
You would do well to write properly yourself. You do not capitalize properly, and your English is suspect also "ROTFL" has never been a accepted English word. Since i suspect this is someone through Jim please tell him to fight his own battles. Also you are just furthering what i have been saying why would someone want to turn to Christianity when all they see is hate? on your favorites you have Anti Catholic videos, why would someone want to come to hate. Is that what you think Jesus preached?
currahee54 3 years ago
Psalm 11:5-7,
"The LORD tests the righteous, But the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates.
Upon the wicked He will rain coals; Fire and brimstone and a burning wind shall be the portion of their cup.
For the LORD is righteous, He loves righteousness, His countenance beholds the upright."
John 3:19,
"And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil."
YOU LOVE DARKNESS !!!
JimDeferio 3 years ago
OMG THE DARKNESS what is this star wars. Im not going to quote scripture with you, i could and have but the reality is that we would just go back and forth like we have up until this point. I'm not going to even check the psalm to see if your right you have been wrong in the past but ill let that slide for the sake of not being redundant.
currahee54 3 years ago
And for your quote i don't see any coals, fire and brimstone burning in my cup right now thats orange soda. You are a joke something to be made fun of and not taken serious. I have debated you as well as your son and the reality is that both of you say the same thing that you can judge others i do not agree but the reality is, you are not converting or helping people by beating them over the head with the bible. Its old its dumb you are a joke, god is not on your side check yourself into a
currahee54 3 years ago
mental facility. I read the same bible you claim to read and know the meaning of. You don't because god is love, he did not go to you and say "Jim go to campuses and persecute homosexuals, thus allowing the opportunity for young people to riot" You are a joke people know what you are doing you are not crafty your actually quite predictable, you are not the first horrible person i have seen hide behind a bible and cast judgment onto others and will likely not be the last. You people use the same
currahee54 3 years ago
versus. That are typically taken out of context or refuted somewhere else in the bible. So PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do the rest of the world a favor and SHUT UP!!!! maybe will all burn to the ground and then you can sit back and say i told you so but seeing as i dont see any coals or brimstone in my cup of orange soda and i am late for my cult meetings since i am a sinner and all
currahee54 3 years ago
I feel like you went on one of those online bible verse websites and just looked up those verses. Hey you should probably put some verses in there that don't speak about how much God hates, maybe about how he loves. He loves us all, including you. You take things out of context, and only show certain things. You're like the media, show the bad, but not the good. As much as I disapprove of you I wish you well. Good luck spreading false testimony and making Christianity look bad.
chr19myers 3 years ago 2
Amen!
currahee54 3 years ago
Psalm 5:4-6,
"For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, Nor shall evil dwell with You.
The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You hate all workers of iniquity.
You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; The LORD abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man."
IJonn 5:2-3,
"By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome."
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Guys, don't give power to hate. For me the protest wasn't for Jim, it was for the people he hurt. It was to show we were there for them. The best way to give power to evil is to pay attention to it and feed it. Remember, God loves love not hate. So ignore those who spread hate and let them die out. They enjoy making us mad like this, so just don't feed into them. It's not our job to pass judgement. They'll get theirs eventually.
futureeditor 3 years ago
"It's not our job to pass judgement. They'll get theirs eventually"
ROTFL You just passed judgment
way to refute yourself!
bdplist 3 years ago
You sound immature,Cory, and you're a very poor writer. Stop! You are just bringing more shame to SUNY Fredonia. My college degrees are in science also, so what is your point? You can't spot the counterfeit (in this case the cult of Unitarianism-Universalists) because you have not the foggiest notion what the real is. Jesus Himself opposed the Herodians, the Sadducees, the Pharisees, and the religious scribes of the 1st century. So did His disciples. "Contend earnestly for the faith" (Jude 3)
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Well thanks Jim for your opinion of my maturity level. I would think that someone who goes to campuses and gets young people riled up would not call someone else immature. Also Jim I did not realize that this was a English essay, if so why don't you write properly and cite your source and the end of every post. Remember you can not lie about what that source says or you may be in some trouble tis tis. As far as my remark about the Computer Science Professor i am sorry if you lack the
currahee54 3 years ago
Intellect to see why i may suggest someone Who's degree is in Computer Science might not be a great opposition in a Theological debate. I have shown i can quote scripture with you but that obviously will get the two of us anywhere.You keep bringing up that you went to Fredonia. What was your major Jim? Was it a Degree in Discrimination? When did you attend? The Stone age? I bet it was when Fredonia had much weaker admissions standards. Just a hunch.
currahee54 3 years ago
Furthermore Jim how can you call others immature with statements like "Intolerant God hates" Threatening me with fire and brimstone, Saying that not one of us new are bibles. Are you kidding me? wow you show a extremely high maturity level. I wonder what your response will be will it be a scripture where i am threatened with hell? or will it be a statement talking about how im in a cult? Wow Jim its like i know what your going to write.
currahee54 3 years ago
Cory, so what else do you do for entertainment? FYI I have been to 51 colleges/universities and I have NEVER been involved in a lawsuit with any; nor have I ever sued a college student. This malicious rumor was started in Oct. 2007 by the cult known as the Unitarian-Universalists. One of their leaders from the Harrisburg, PA area is a Computer Science Professor at Millersville Univ. I have challenged this guy to a theological debate at least 3 times and he remains "silent". That's the fact Jack
JimDeferio 3 years ago
I love how other groups are "cults" you challenged a computer science professor to a theological debate? wow way to really challenge yourself there. As for entertainment i go around to colleges putting down different groups believing that it will some how get me into heaven because i obviously am not good enough of a person to get in on merit without putting down other groups. Wait that isn't me it sounds like someone i have met though..... But what do i know I'm a god hating fascist right?
currahee54 3 years ago
WHAT INTOLERANT BIGOTS!
why can't you students just accept this guy for who he is?
Tell us some more how open minded you folks are it is entertaining!
bdplist 3 years ago
You state, "in a more congenial fashion". Do you know anything about me besides what the homofascists and feminazis on college campuses write? I was actually beginning to use presuppositional and classical apologetics with the Fredonia students who were sitting on the steps. They were raising their hands and asking questions and it was going fairly well until the intolerant God-hating fascists arrived. BTW, Hugh Ross is in serious error, and Ravi Zacharias' ecumenism is unBiblical.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
haha "it was going fairly well until the intolerant God-hating fascists arrived." haha so we were fascists who hate god? Really??? you are a funny funny man. Why would anyone take u seriously. You want tolerance to express your views yet you say that quote. really your a joke its sad you cant see how pathetic you are. So how is that lawsuit going?????? Was the kid a God-hating fascist?
currahee54 3 years ago
WHAT INTOLERANT BIGOTS!
why can't you students just accept this guy for who he is?
bdplist 3 years ago
I have to hand it to you Sam, you're a first class liar. But hey, if you think you're so smart, why don't you debate me? Or are you also yellow besides pink.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
TALK is CHEAP!
Why can't you students be TOLERANT?
bdplist 3 years ago
i actually go to school at fredonia and was at this protest. WE are the tolerant ones. He came preaching hate against gays jews blacks and basically anyone who wasnt white. we held a sheet over him and drowned him out and had a party so he couldnt be heard spreading hate. We are tolerant of our peers, whether they be homosexual, black, white purple orange whatever.
So get your facts right.
leeder88 3 years ago
Do college students ever use a dictiobnary?
TOLERANT: showing respect for the rights or opinions or practices of others
INTOLERANT: not tolerating or respecting beliefs, opinions, usages, manners, etc., different from one's own, as in political or religious matters; BIGOTED
MOB: A large disorderly crowd or throng
Why didn't really show your toleration by wrapping him in a sheet? Funny that you picked a white sheet. Do you burn crosses also?
bdplist 3 years ago
the white sheet was representative of peace.
zwie4939 3 years ago
Looks like an attempt at supression to me
bdplist 3 years ago
Ask your philosophy dept. if they would be willing to consider hosting a qualified speaker to present the Christian worldview in an organized forum. There are educated apologists that would be willing to address this issue in a more congenial fashion. Thanks.
rodyshusband 3 years ago
I understand Deferio family,
How hard it must be to accept that our school could not supply you with a lawsuit to fund your family "caravan" to travel the country, but we students at SUNY Fredonia really DONT LIKE PEOPLE TAKING AWAY OUR EDUCATIONAL MONEY.
Peace.
Nuttyirishdip 3 years ago
We don't go out looking for lawsuits. You college student just can't be content unless you are working on some kind of conspiracy theory. We pay our own way with our own money.
BTW...when you say "our educational money" I'm assuming you are including OUR tax money in that statement...
Can we at least get a "thank you" from you for helping to provide you with an education?
Deferio 3 years ago
Actually mine comes from loans but thanks for playing. O but thank you for coming to our school and putting down our student body o what an honor it truly was. And if you think going to a school preaching against that student body doesn't leave a high probability of something happening then your naive. If that is what you are doing going from college to college then you are looking for a lawsuit.
currahee54 3 years ago
Civility of response is in the hands of the students. Again...nobody is looking for a lawsuit...just wanting to see people be set free from their sins and be redeemed by Jesus Christ. Sometimes that message makes people angry.
Deferio 3 years ago
or sometimes what makes people angry is calling them "intolerant god haters" or a "Hypocrite" or claiming "not one of you there new your bible" that tends to make people angry. There is a difference between spreading the word of god and what you are doing i don't understand what is so difficult that you can not see that.
currahee54 3 years ago
Your church building on a Sunday morning in front of your congregation. Set it up Ma Fredonia.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Wow you would want to bring anger into a house of God? Because i have seen you speak and i don't think you are capable of having a peaceful debate. What are you going to call her a "intolerant God Hater" or just threaten a lawsuit if you don't agree with her?
currahee54 3 years ago
You are a sad, sick man. The bible warns about people like you. But God loves you anyway, and he loves me, and all my classmates at Fredonia. I often pray for you, that you will find what it is you are missing in your life, that makes you spread such hatred, and make God look hateful. I'm Catholic, and that is NOT my God. My God is loving, and forgiving.
And once again...
The 9th Commandment.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
Theaterdancechic 3 years ago
YOURE A PIECE OF SHIT
leeder88 3 years ago
by the way jimbo,
with your outfit and moustache, you look like the fag that you called me
leeder88 3 years ago
OMG I can not believe he is trying to do this again on YouTube! What a deusch, Fuck you Jim, You don't know shit about how God feels towards his human beings, U R just a CON MAN trying to get a punch in order to sue the school that you try to provoke violence in, We know we all heard about Brockport and everything, you are a selfish bastard and I hope that you will be greeted into hell for the injustice you have caused amongst peaceful, righteous, and loving people of Fredonia. Take that MF!!!!
Stauvros 3 years ago
Now it's time that I step in. currahee 54, if you are trying to say that I was screaming obscenities at Fredonia, then you may be in some legal trouble. Clarify please. There is no way in the world you can back up that malicious and harmful statement. I quoted much Scripture at Fredonia and laid a strong basis from history, logic, etc. as to why the Bible is trustworthy. It was going good until you and the other intolerant God haters showed up to drown me out. Not one of you knew the Bible.
JimDeferio 3 years ago
Just as you would be if you suggest i am a "god hater. Obscenities can be defined as The state or quality of being obscene. You were there speaking against home sexuality. You may want you clarify the "not one of you knew the bible" because that also may be defamation. I know my bible. You gave not historical proof that i heard and i was there for several hours of it and certainly no logic that i could agree with. I believe you did more harm then good there. Your way of preaching was what i
currahee54 3 years ago
refer to as "beating someone over the head with the bible" The way you were there in my opinion turns more people away from Christianity then it brings to it. Now is it true that you have a lawsuit with Suny Buffalo? Why are you so quick to threaten legal action to have your rights protected yet you seem to be so intolerant of other peoples rights. This is America and you as well as i are entitled to our obviously separate opinions. I have backed up my definition and my argument please do not
currahee54 3 years ago
threaten me with a legal preceding. I am not intimidated so please do not threaten me with such a statement. The simple fact is that you went to a campus to preach anti-homosexuality where there is a large homo-sexual population. The only logical reason for that is to get college student to act irrationally. This was not set up as a debate this was set up as a protest, at a place where you know there are going to be some immature people. That is the only logical reason i see for you picking a
currahee54 3 years ago
college campus and having picked college campuses. I am a Christian to sir, i do not agree with homosexuality however it is not my place to go out and judge that is gods place. You claiming to be a man of god should realize that god is powerful enough to change anything he so desires. And i can guarantee no where in the bible does it say Jim Deferio go do thy judging. I know my bible, i know my religion. Please do not insult my intelligence. We had students quote scripture to you how is that not
currahee54 3 years ago
an example of people at that campus knowing there bible. Also sir as for your comment about us drowning you out. I hate to break it to you but that is not infringement on your rights. You had a questionable protest to begin with because a reasonable person could assume that it was slander speech you can not prove anyone who is gay is going to hell. which yes i heard you say. Also the first amendment is freedom of speech and expression. That is not freedom to be heard. You can say just about
currahee54 3 years ago
anything you desire, however that does not mean people have to hear it. We also sir have freedom of speech and expression. Are speech was against your view of the bible, how it related to Christianity, and are expression was through music and dance. You had your speeches, and your expression was the signs. So to sum up what i am saying sir i highly doubt Suny Fredonia as a whole wants you at Fredonia, i did not agree with your view of Christianity, and do not threaten me with a lawsuit.
currahee54 3 years ago
Please sir i do not want to hear you or your families views any longer. i don't agree with them nor will i. I have tried giving biblical versus but its obvious you do not wish to head them. So please save your views for people who care enough to hear them. May God some day open your eyes.
currahee54 3 years ago
Jimbo,I am a Fredonia Mom.I am extremely proud of every single student that stood up to your misconceptions.These are very smart individuals for they know a false prophet when they hear one.Your threats to the students make me extremely angry.You see I am a youth pastor with a legal background.You dressing in sheeps clothing has fooled not one person.We can see underneath the costume.If you want to debate I will debate you but stop the insults and threats, be a man and prove your words.
wzkz 3 years ago
I was one of the ones over there. We were not with him we were actually debating him please don't think that we were with that awful guy. He made no coherent points and as a Christian i could not let him make Christians look that thick headed and immoral.
currahee54 3 years ago
Friendship with the world is enmity with God.
I guess we know where you stand, currahee54.
Sad. And you call yourself a Christian.
Deferio 3 years ago
No friendship and love is what god preaches. Hatred and persecution is what god speaks against. You are the one that was there to get a rise out of people to insight a riot, My god would not want people getting hurt my god would want everyone to live in harmony. I am sorry if you have a warped interpretation of the bible and gods teachings. You're hateful comments are not welcome at Suny Fredonia, and you do not represent Christians you are what is known as a false prophet.
currahee54 3 years ago
You obviously have a problem with scripture. You are not a christian, and your are right...when you start talking about "my god"
YOUR god would preach friendship with the world because he does not exist. I simply quoted scripture(James4:4)...and you have a problem with it.
I am Jim's son...not Jim.
Jesus came to bring a sword and to call sinners to repentance. Please...I know you are probably 18 or 19 yrs old and sound very immature...you need to read the bible, obey the bible, and get saved.
Deferio 3 years ago
Read your own words "Jesus came to bring a sword and to call sinners to repentance." Is you, your sister, or your father Jesus? Let Jesus decided who the sinners are. Would Jesus want you to judge others? Because i believe Jesus talks about those who are without sin casting the first stone. You are clearly with sin, so do not be casting any stone. Jesus Associated himself with Mary Magdalene? Wasn't she a sinner? I doubt he was outside her house with a sign screaming obscenities.
currahee54 3 years ago
Also "sir" i am 21 years old, i have been a member of countless churches, and have been a Christian my entire life. I love how you can switch between the gospel, to society norms, to the constitution. Gospel when you want to persecute, society when you mean to discount another, and the constitution when you want to have your rights protected. You seem conflicted. You cant expect your rights to be protected if you wont do the same for others, and i have a feeling Jesus would not support you 3.
currahee54 3 years ago
It looks like six or eight Fredonia students were standing with the evangalist. I wonder if there were any reprecussions for their actions ... I'm proud of the SUNY Fredonia students for not allowing that man to spread his hate.
wollam11 3 years ago
Hey,
i was one of the ones over there. We were not with him we were actually debating him. We were disproving his wrongful views.
currahee54 3 years ago
It was absolutely awesome, I gave a speech there and everything and it was so great how we came together as a school and a community to have this CON MAN's voice not be heard with such messages of promoting violence, hate, and intolerance, we should all remember this day for all our lives and be very proud of what we accomplished,even if the Channel 4 News broadcasted the reversed side of this event. Be Happy with who you are,and what you are don't let people like this Jim person bring you down!
Stauvros 3 years ago
Your in the wrong country my friend. You not allowing freedom of speech is not something to celebrate. You'd be better off in a Islamic country. Your so intolerant!
Deferio 3 years ago
You were the guy that was there giving the speech. Are country allows freedom of speech but that does not mean freedom to make people listen to hateful comments. As far as the "Islamic country" goes, you had Islamic quotes with you that day, so obviously Islam doesn't bother you.
currahee54 3 years ago
I <3 fredonia- we showed him how we cared.
RyuuseiNoRockman 3 years ago
This was the most moving thing that I have ever seen at our school.
SingingSanderson 3 years ago
I love Fredonia!
captaincook42 3 years ago
ha ha i was there!!! Ra Ra Fredonia!!! <3
"i love you
you love me
we're one happy family
with a great big hug
and a kiss from me to you
won't you say you love me too"
jennaxlynn1220 3 years ago
haha, i started that song at the end there ;)
dariuslloyd 3 years ago