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  • Fuck Religion !!!

  • a tooth for a tooth..an eye for an eye...christians are only protecting for themselves...Muslims are more brutal and barbaric than us...

  • the reason for all this crap are religions

    answer is drop em both of them because they both are bad islam as christians

    go back to your roots your old gods !!!

  • @noeszigi just stfu if u don't know anything of everything.............

  • @akosihairish actually i know alot about it my girlfriend she live there

  • BRING YOURSELF TO MINDANAO!

    AND BRING PEACE TO MINDANAO!

  • This is a phoney war which crooks on both sides keep going just to make money and have power. The muslims are no better than the so called christians and the christians are no better than the so called muslims. The Americans are once again blundering into a country which doesn't want them there.

  • support Mindanao Peace Process

    good for country, region and people

    lets fail the arms dealers, war solution option, war mongers

    lets solve the Mindanao Question offered in the present Peace Process- may not come again in our lifetime

    failure of peace process will create generations who wont listen to reason anymore

    lets not pass this conflict on to our children to experience & see

  • but 1st we must convince the muslim that they will never have all of mindanao..never

  • @abcchoy

    Have you read MOA-AD? BJE sub state is not whole mindanao as you want

    Only whats left of Ancestral Domain of Moro & Lumad

    will you support the Peace process now that you know this?

  • @thelastmoro

    hell no!! kill all of these terrorist...

  • @abcchoy

    you cant argue reasonably your idea- your the terrorist/extremist

    can you discuss?

  • @thelastmoro

    hell no!! kill all of these terrorist...

  • @thelastmoro

    hell no!! kill all of these terrorist...

  • @thelastmoro

    hell no!! kill all of these terrorist...

  • @abcchoy

    You have not read the Historical MOA-AD/BJE and your the one talking like a terrorist

    extremist/terrorist are close to reason- like what your doing

    can you discuss reasonably? lets discuss Mindanao Issues even by Q & A

  • @abcchoy

    You have not read the Historical MOA-AD/BJE and your the one talking like a terrorist

    extremist/terrorist are close to reason- like what your doing

    can you discuss reasonably? lets discuss Mindanao Issues even by Q & A

  • @abcchoy

    You have not read the Historical MOA-AD/BJE and your the one talking like a terrorist

    extremist/terrorist are close to reason- like what your doing

    can you discuss reasonably? lets discuss Mindanao Issues even by Q & A

  • @abcchoy @abcchoy

    You have not read the Historical MOA-AD/BJE and your the one talking like a terrorist

    extremist/terrorist are close to reason- like what your doing

    can you discuss reasonably? lets discuss Mindanao Issues even by Q & A

  • We never commit Justice from those legal Christian terrorist Ilaga if government

    No amount of development can pay for immoral and illegal annexation of Bangsamoro homeland

    Longlive the establishment of Bangsamoro islamic state !

  • LONG LOVE ILAGA!!! Feared by the bangsamoro!!

  • Ang mga AFP ay ayaw patayin kayong mga nagrebelde dahil itinuturing pa kayong mga Moro na mga kapatid ngunit wala silang magagawa kung gusto ninyong lumaban at mag jihad. Yan ay kautosan ng mga kumander o leaders ng MILF na mapagmataas na kayang talonin ang mga sundalo ng gobierno. Hangang hindi ninyo ebaba ang inyong mga armas ganyan palagi ang inyong kabuhayan.

    Kayo mismo ang nagbibigay sa inyong kahirapan kaya huag ninyong sisihin ang eba. Pagaralan ninyo bakit mas maunlad and ebang bansa

  • @Flip

    the military command likes/supports to perpetuate the war in mindanao

    why?

    1-easy cash cow for their wife & keridas

    2-easy promotion and up the ranks

    3-to waste war materials under 'sponsorship' of GRP taxes & economic suffering

    if peace is achieved by negotiated MOA-AD/BJE-

    they will all be sad and will stay in low ranks too long

    is peace more important OR to line a few pockets and egos?

  • Mali ang naitanim sa kaisipan mo ng mga rebelde na ang mga Moro ay pinapatay ng mga tinatawag ninyong occupiers. Walang sinasadyang pinapatay ng AFP na mga Morong sibilyan kundi ang mga nagrerebelde. Eba ang Moro sa Morong isinuot ang uniporme ng MILF at nangako silang handang mamatay basta maipaglaban ang kanilang pinapangarap na magsariling bansa.

    Gustong maidamay ang mga ebang Moro na walang kaugnayan sa kanilang sariling kapakanan, magpakayaman at magkaroon ng kapangyarihan sa MOA-AD

  • haha...kulanfg daw sa logic..anu ang logic dun? na ang moro dapat dina lumaban kasi wala ng pag asang manalo..na dapat makipag cooperate na lang sa kanyayanfg occupier habang pinapatay sila paunti unti...ndi logical ang tawag dun kundi stupidity..

  • Mga taong katulad mo wala ng pagasang malaman ang katutuhanan pagkat kulang ka sa logic.

    Nag mga taong na 'brainwashed' wala ng pagbabago kahit anong malinaw na rason ang ipaliwanag.

    Yan ang ngyayari sa buong mundo kaya maraming hindi magkasundo. Kung may mga kagulohan sa mundo palaging kasali ang mga Muslim kaya hindi ako magtataka sa iyong pananaw.

  • @Flipsify

    Mga taong katulad mo wala ng pagasang malaman ang katutuhanan pagkat kulang ka sa logic.

    BUTI PA ANG MGA NABRAINWASH NAGIISIP.

    di katulad mo na FILTY MINDED! pano hindi pa NILILINIS ANG UTAK!

    proud ako maging BRAINWASHED!

  • aramaik ang language ni JESUS! at hindi ENGLISH BIBLE NGAYON!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    sinunog panga ng mga ROMANS & JEWS YUNG MGA SCRIPTURES na ARAMAIK!!!! lahat ng mga NAITALA NG MGA YOUNG DESCIPLES wala sunog lahaT! ang BIBLE KASI EH NAISULAT SA ORAL!!!!! kaya maraming MALE!!!!!!!! yan!!! hindi NA SI HESUS ANG NAGSULAT NIYAN, TAO NA!!!!! misamo mga theologians niyo INAAMIN YAN!!!! kaya kawawa ang makikinig sayo FLIPSY!!! magaral ka! walang kwenta mga PROPAGANDA MO!!!! dahil may katapat ka!

  • ang totooo kasi dyan eh yung BIBLE!!!! SANG KATUTAK ANG MGA ERRORS!!!!!

    nawawala panga yung 700 GREEK MSS! ang natira lang na basehan ng CHURCH eh yung 8 ROMAN GREEK MSS LANG!!! na siyang maraming SALUNGATAN!!!!

    ang topic ng VIDEO eh tungkol sa PEOPLE POWER!!!! yun ang dapat paguusapan! hindi yung talon tayo ng talon! na wala namang SENSE ang PINUPUTAK ng BUTSI NATIN MR. FLIPSY!!!!!! kung gusto mo ng PERSONAL DEBATE bigay mo ang contact number mo at UMUWI KA DITO sa pinas! MAGKITA TAYO!

  • HEY MR. FLIPSY!!! wala kang patunay na ANG MGA TALATA SA QUR'AN AY BINAGO!!! dahil maraming HAFIZ noong panahon ni OMAR rad hanggang kau ALI!!!!

    ISINAAYOS LANG NI UTHMAN SA STANDARD NA KALAGAYAN!!! kahit ano mauna sa mga CHAPTERS ay PWEDE WAG LANG BABAGUHIN ANG MGA TALATA!!! yun ang ginawa ni uthman!!!!! na preserved din nga yung QUR'ANIC SCRIPTURES sa panahon ni OMAR na siyang memoryado ng mga ANSAR sa madina! tapos kung ano ano pinagdadada mo diyan na WALANG BASEHAN! kawawa ang makikinig

  • mga bobo na palitico gusto nila magpatayan tayo...bobo.....hinde ninyo kami matatalo kahit cn u o ilan pa kayo.....

  • Not only the Koran's many verses was picked what should be included or not by the order of Uthman but many of these verses are illogical if Allah is the same God of the Bible because many people the Koran call 'infidels' follow the teachings of the Bible which is at least 600 years older than the Koran.

    The Koran also mentioned that Jesus Christ performed miracles(signs) but did not elaborate these are God's miracles so it should be the duty of all Muslims to know who the real Jesus Christ is.

  • @Flipsify

    what particular verses re: illogical if Allah is the same God of the Bible'? proof to show is on you

    re: Jesus Christ is mentioned & performed miracles only BY THE LEAVE/FAVOR of GOD

    its in the Qur'an- so study more & dont MISLED ppl by your own lack of research

    AGAIN- Mindanao Question/Issue is not about Belief- we could respect each others belief

    its you who keeps on MALIGNING our Belief- its not a good start towards understanding

  • E TRANSLATE KO NA LNG SA TAGALOG NA HALATANG MAY BINAGO SA KORAN

    "Wala sa aming mga paghahayag (kahit na isang berso) kami nanulo o nagbigay ng dahilan para nakalimutan, ngunit nilagyan ng pangpalit (sa lugar) ng isang mas mahusay o ang mga tulad nito" Koran 2.105-106

    Sa bersong eto, halatang hindi Diyos ang nagsabi neto kundi mga pumalit sa Koran.

  • @Flip

    translation of arabic quran to tagalog are to be done by scholars conversant on both languages

    nobody can jump from the translated english then tagalog as you did

    there is a scholastic science in its translation

    can you put the english quran translation& ill show you the 'misleading points' you made

    unintentional- of course- just bcoz of lack of authority...

  • @Flipsify frist hinde po qor an ang may tramslation na english or tagalog kung gusto malaman ang qor an?learn the arabic ok....

  • Importante si Khalipa Uthman sa kagagawan ng Koran dahil siya ang nagutos sa pagsira ng lahat ng iba pang mga parte o buong kopya ng manuskripto ng Koran sa Hafsa. Naninigurado ba kayong Muslim na walang tinangal o dinagdag kung ang nakalagay sa Hadith na si Uthman ay isang taong malupit?

  • bobo, hindi lahat ng PARTE! iniutos niya ang pagsunog sa IBANG VERSION NG QUR'AN NA NAIIBA ANG DIALECTO SA DIALEKTO NI MUHAMMAD NA SIYANG DIALEKTO NILA NINA ABU BAKR,ALI,AISHA (ran),OMAR, at lahat ng mga SHAHABA ni muhammad, ang dialectong QURAISH!

    ang ginawa ni uthman, gusto niya panatilihin ang OROHINAL NA LENGGUWAHE NA GINAMIT NG ALLAH! para magkaunawaan sila ni MUHAMMD dahil QURAISH ang language ni muhammad! hindi naman ito katulad ng ENGLISH! hindi naman marunong si JESUS NITO!! hehehe

  • halata ngang THEORIYA!

    bakit hanggang NGAYON EH NASA MASJID AL HUSEINI ANG MGA NAPRESERVE NA QURAISHI QUR'AN na siyang pinagkuhanan ng BASEHAN NI UTHMAN' para ma standardize niya ang QUR'AN na QURAISH...

    wala ka kasing ALAM TUNGKOL SA HAFIZ!

    pati KHALIFA dinadamay mo sa katangahan mo!

  • Halatang pinabrika ang sinasabi mo dito. Kung may nawalang chapters sa John 21-26 saan mo naman napulot ang John 26:17? wala naman sa Biblia yan

    Meron bang may magsasabi na may tinangal ang mga chapters tapos magbibigay sila ng ehemplo pero wala namang katibayan kung saan nangaling yun?

    Pinahalata mo na ikaw ata ang nalokong parang bata kung saan mo nakuha yan, wala namang ebedensya.

  • Ang Diyos ay hindi maaaring tinataranta ang mga tao kung ang memoriado nila ay talagang

    galing sa kanya.

    Siya ay hindi nagkakamali at kung nalito ang mga tao lalo na si Khalifa bakit hindi lamang nagpahalata kahit si angel Jibril sa kanya para ipatnubay sya? Mahiyain kaya si angel Jibril kaya si Muhammad lang siya nagpahalata..kung isipin ninyo eto ay napaka malaking misteryo.

  • Pagkatapos namatay si Muhammad ang Koran ay memoriado ng mga taong Hafiz kaya nakakaduda bakit sa unang pagiipon ng mga memoriado nila, ang Koran na inilagay sa manuskrito ni Hafsa ay naging manuskrito sa Khalifa Utman? Ang dahilan, ang ebang manuskrito ng Koran ay sinunog sa paguutos ni Khalifa pagkat may mga ebang memoriado ng mga Hafiz na tumaliwas o tutol sa ebang Hafiz at nalito ang mga bumasa kaya pumili si Khalifa kung anong mga tatangalin at mga ilalagay sa Koran.

  • well, siguro para maiwasan ang sakitan, eh dapat na makipagusap ng mapayapa at unawaan sa isat isa! para hindi natin masusumpungan ang mga BAHO AT KAINIS na katotohanan!

    magandang umaga FLIPSY!

  • SAMA MO NA JAN YUNG MGA "DAKILANG" verses na nagkakasalungatan!

    eh ano pa kaya kung malaman mo ang HISTORY KUNG PAPAANO NABAGO ANG BIBLIYA BATA!!!!

    gusto mo?

  • pati nga yung mga chapter 21 hanggang 26 sa BOOK OF JOHN patungkol sa paparating na bagong MENSAHER EH NANGAWALA LAHAT!!!

    ex. John 26:17 sabi ni hesus eh pag di daw siya aalis eh hindi darating yung katulad niya, ngunit pag siya daw ay aalis eh darating yung katulad niya!

  • pano pa kaya kung pagdating sa mga talata!

    ex. MATTHEW 24:14 na wala sa ibang bibliya ngunit nasa FOOT NOTE (dahil daw walang katulad na MANUSKRIPTO ANG TALATA)

    WOW!!!

  • ex. nalang yung BIBLE NAMING MGA STAUNCH napabagobago ng CHAPTERS simula 80 (pareho ng ORTHODOX) tapos paglipas ng ilang taon magiging 73 (katulad sa CATHOLIC) tapos minsan 66 (KATULAD SA SDA at BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS)

    SEE, chapters palang yan bata!

  • simpleng bagay lang na nakakatuwang pinakealaman ng mga TANGANG KRITIKO ngayon!

    ano pinagsasabe mong ang BIBLIYA AY HINDI NAGBAGO?

    chapters palang BATA! malalaman mo na ang KATANGAHAN MO!

  • ang ika 115 at 116 na (CHAPTERS DAW) sa QUR'AN NI IBN MASUD eh ito lang naman yung mga QUNUT! sunnah! mga DU'A ni muhammad S.A.W na siyang hindi kinilalang

    CHAPTERS!! natural eh! kaya lang naman hindi nagustohan ni IBN MAS'UD R.A yung STANDARD QUR'AN ni UTHMAN IBN AFFAN (3rd calipth R.A) na siyang WIkANG QURAISH na wika ni MUHAMMAD eh dahil gusto ni IBN MAS'UD EH ISAMA NIYA SA SARILING COPY ng QUR'AN yung mga QUNUT! QUNUT ay siya ding mga DUA ng propheta!

  • at lalong walang naidagdag sa STANDARD QUR'AN na

    naglalaman ng 114 chapter!

    siguro lang yung tinutukoy mong naidagdag sa QUR'AN eh yung ipinagmamayabang nga mga tangatangang kritiko na maga christian missionaries na tinatawag na "116 chapters na QUR'AN" galing kay IBN MAS'UD ikaapat sa mga malapit kay MUHAMMAD S.A.W! ano nga ba ang katangahang hindi naintindihan ng mga

    kritiko na siya mong ginaya FLIPSY?

  • walang natanggal sa QUR'AN DAHIL MARAMI PONG HAFIZ sa panahon ni OMAR (1st caliph) R.A!

    ang hafiz ay isang tao na KABISADO ANG IBANG TALATA!!!!!

    almost sa loob ng 10,000 na followers ni muhammad S.A.W, marami ang HAFIZ jan dahil lahat ng TALATA SA QUR'AN ay binabanggit sa prayerS!!!! ex. surah al baqara at fatihah!

    WALA KANG SAPAT NA EBIDENSIYA para maging totoo ang MGA TEORYA MO SA QUR'AN BATA!!!

    katawatawang hindi mo nga alam ang MGA SALUNGATAN SA BIBLIYA!! jan palang! kita na ang binago

  • infact nangyare nga!

    kung matalino sa pagnanakaw ang gobyerno!

    magaling naman ang MGA MORO SA STRATEGY at TACTICS!!!!!

    akala mo ba eh porke sumasale ang mga maliliit na organisasyon nayan sa gobyerno eh! satingin mo eh mas nakaaangat pa ang panig mo kaisa panig ng moro?

    mali ka bata!

    saan ba napupunta ang ibang pondo na ninanakaw ng gobyerno sa pamamagitan ng TAX? of courze, may pondo din ang TABANG MINDANAO at SUARA BANGSAMORO! satingin mo ba eh nanakaw nga ang sa moro? eh bumalik lang eh!

  • If there will be solutions it will involve collective cooperation between the government and various Moro organizations but mostly it depends upon their leaders, who are being influenced by the armed MILF rebels who think they can dictate how the Moro people live.

    It is about time for these organizations to voice out their opinions that they desperately want peace and condemn the MILF for their illegitimate demands from the government.

  • @FLIP-

    i challege you to provide your simple solutions to the Mindanao Question

    any practical ideas?

    judging others belief is not helping in the SEARCH for answers to this Conflict

    your method are like those of the SPANISH- kill the MORO or Convert them- why? bcoz of our diff belief? you know that this FAILED

    why not respect each other approach?

    you to your way-me to mine?

  • Mahirap tangapin na si Muhammad ay mamamatay tao. Pero panoorin na lng ninyo ang mga videos sa profile ko..nasa na inyo na yan kung maniwala kayo o hindi. Wala siyang nagawang kabutihan kundi ginamit ang Diyos para takotin ang mga hindi naniniwala sa kanya.

  • Ang Biblia ay hindi nagbago at hindi binabago ang sapat na kahalagaan at totoong pinapahiwatig hindi kagaya ng inyong Koran na dinagdagan at tinangal para maitago ang mga hindi nararapat na talata kagaya ng 'Satanic Verses'

  • Hindi nagsimula ang mundo kay Muhammad at ang kanyang Koran, ilagay ninyo sa kaisipan ninyo yan

    Lampas ng 600 na taon may Biblia bago nagsimula ang Koran. Kung iisa ang Diyos tangapin ninyo ang tinuro ng Diyos sa Torah at New Testament.

    Huag ninyong parumihin ang pagiisip ng mga taong walang kinalaman ng mga sinabi ng Diyos.

  • Magaling kayong mga Muslims na mag interpret sa Holy Bible kasi expert kayo diyan

    Bahala na kayo kung gusto ninyong gawin pero huwag ninyong idamay ang mga walang nakakaalam katutuhanan sa mga kasinungalingan ninyo. Kayo mismo ang mananagutan kinabukasan sa malaking kasalanan, ang paglalaspangan sa Diyos.

  • wala pong PANINIWALA SA ISLAM NA JIBREL AY NAGHAHATID NG MENSAHE SA PAMAMAGITAN NG HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!

    dahil ang Holy spirit ay maraming IBIGSABIHIN!!!

    wag po tayong gagawa kaagad ng WALA SA BIBLIYA!!!! FLIPSY!

  • and please!!!!

    wala pong paniniwala sa islam NA SI MUHAMMAD AY KATAWANG TAO NG DIYOS!!!!

    astaghfirullahuladhim!!!!

    kaawaan ka ng MGA NERD SA U.P BATA!

  • buti pa! kung ayaw mo na masaktan!

    eh! WAG KANG AALIS KASI SA TOPIC NINYO NILA BACACA88 at MUSLIMJESUS!!!

    hindi ganyan ang pormal na pakikipagtalastasan o DEBATE KAPATID!!!!

    gusto mo turuan kita tungkol sa DOCTRINE OF TRINITY HAH!!!! ugali mo kasi tumalon eh!!!

  • ano ba ang mauna bago KATAWAN? diba espirito!

    iba naman kasi paniniwala mo eh! ISPIRITO LANG?

    pano yun makakapagsailta!!!!

    baho napo ng COCONUTSHELL NATIN FLIPSY!!!!

    pasensiya kana KAPATID!!!! mahal ko ang nakasanayan ko nang LENGWAHE KASI NATATAKOT AKO NA BAKA MABILANG AKO SA TINUTUKOY NI RIZAL NA MALANSANG ISDA!!!!!!

  • John 14:16-17 (New International Version)

    16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH!. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you.

    SO, nasaan si na yung sinasabi mong NAMAMAGITAN SA ISANG COUNSELOR at mensahe?

    buksan po natin ang COCONUTSHELL kasi po baka mabulok!

  • BAKIT? PANO MO NALAM NA MAY NAMAMAGITAN KAY GABRIEL AT MUHAMAD PARA LANG MALAMAN ANG MENSAHE HA!!!??

    DIYOS KABA!?

    nasaan sa QUr'an na nagsasaad na BAGO MARINIG NI PROPHETA MUHAMMAD ANG MENSAHE EH KINAKAILANGAN PA NG HOLY SPIRIT BAGO SI JBRIL malaikatu?

    HA????

  • ang TANONG, PAREHO BA kayo ng DIYOS ng ISRALE sa paniniwala????? ha????

    alam mo kasi BATA, ang bibliya ay hindi parang KOMIKS LANG NA GAGAWAN MO NG IBIG SABIHIN!!!!!!

    napakasimpleng LOGIC at commonsense HINDI MO PA MAGETS!

    ano ba naman yan bata?

    gamitin mo naman yung KOKOTE MO!

  • Kaya nga 'HOLY' galing sa Diyos..pag sinabi kong Spirit of God..hindi ko ibig sabihin namatay ang Diyos tapos may espiritu siya..napakatanga mo kasi

    Parang inaaksaya ko lng panahon kong ipaliwanag sayo pero maraming tao dito na kagaya mo kaya kelangan ko lng pasensiya kung gusto ninyong malaman ang mga katutuhanan.

  • Ang espirito ng Diyos ay binibigay niya...hindi yung pag namatay tapos ang kaluluwa ang maiiwan

    Hindi ka nakakaintindi talaga na eba ang spiritu na galing sa Diyos at eba naman ang espiritu na kaluluwa pag namatay ang tao

  • Turoan na lng kita ng inyong Quran tungkol sa Holy Spirit para magkarron ng laman ang mababaw na utak mo

    We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear signs, and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit (Al-Baqarah: 253)

    Then Allah will say, O Jesus son of Mary! Remember My favor upon you and upon your mother; how I strengthened you with the Holy Spirit (Al-Ma'idah: 110)

  • Wala kang alam tungkol sa buhay ni Muhammad na mamamatay ng mga tao kasi hindi tinuturo yan ng mga Muslim, Koran lng tinuturo para maitago nila ang katutuhanan na mga ngyaring mga karahasan na ginawa niya.

    Nilolo niya ang mga Arabong mga pagan na ang mga Diyos nila ay nasa buwan at napagaralan niya ang Diyos ng Jews at Christian ay isa lang kaya ginawa ang Koran para magkaroon ng kapangyarihan at mapalitan o mabago ang relihiyon ng mga Arabo..mag research ka para hindi ka maloko katulad nila

  • Pagtatagalogin mo pa ko, nakakainti ka naman ng english

    Kelangan mo talaga ng magaral pa, pati Koran wala kang alam kung Muslim ka..pati Holy Spirit hindi mo pa naiintindihan...pinakita mo lang katangahan mo dito.

    Kung walang Holy Spirit paano naipayahag ni angel Gabriel kay Muhammad ang Koran kung naniniwala kayo? Magtanong ka pa sa kapwa mo Muslim kung ano ang Holy Spirit bago magbigay ka ng mga komento dito

  • YOUR IGNORANCE is so obvious here that you don't know anything about the 'HOLY SPIRIT' which was mentioned many times in the Bible, even in the Quran.

    If Muslims believe Quran is the revelations from God, did God's Holy spirit was sent through angel Gabriel or not? Are you a Muslim or a Pagan?

    By the power of the Holy Spirit, God can do anything and through this Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ was able to do so many miracles including raising the dead. I think you have a lot to learn KID!

  • Dear Mr. Jay LENO,

    I think its better to STICK IN THE TOPIC. and please speak Tagalog! rather than speaking ENGLISH just to be a famous and Legendary GUY in youtube!

    because your arguments DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL! especially in logical explanations

  • and please stop GIVING MEANINGS to each VERSES!

    its not PERMISSIBLE!

    1 Corinthians 4:6 "Now, brothers (and YOU FLIPSY), I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written (KID)!." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another."

  • please EXPLAIN TO US WHO the hell was the HOLY SPIRIT???

    a.)St.Paul

    b.) ELLEn Gold White?

    c.) Martin luther

    or d.) don't say that YOU?

    Joke!

  • Can you see the logic here or you're too dumb to comprehend?

  • Lets say you're right, Muhammad is the Counselor..in this verse it will remind people everything what Jesus Christ have said...In the Quran, not a single words of Jesus Christ in the Bible was mentioned.

    Can you see the logic here or you're too dumb to comprehend?

  • Read this so you know 'Counselor' is meant for the 'Holy Spirit' not a person.

    "But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."

    John 14:26

    It means the Spirit of God will teach and remind everything Jesus have said, like a Counselor

  • Read this so you know 'Counselor' is meant for the 'Holy Spirit' not a person.???

    SO KUNG SI SAN PABLO NGA ANG SUSUNOD NA PROPHETA? di dapat hindi siya tumatae at kumakain dahil SPIRITO SIYA NG DIYOS?

    ang gulo mo

  • The 'righteous one' added title to the Holy Spirit which meant the 'Spirit of God', is just a fabrication by Muslim liars. Read the actual verse so no one will be confused and be fooled!

  • The 'righteous one' added title to the Holy Spirit which meant the 'Spirit of God',?

    MY KALULUHA BA ANG DIYOS UGOK? PANO MO NALAMAN YON? are you A GOD to simply say that THE GOD can be also a counselor in this world? CRAP!

    so what is the purpose of a PROPHET?

  • If you think Paraclete is Mihammad then so be it..not everyone think like you

    There are more rational people who can decide on their own if they think outside the box and not being bias, this is a major problem in the Muslim world when most have corrupted minds. I'm setting you as an example.

  • then who was he or she?

    You don't know ABOUT MUHAMMAD! because your knowledge in HISTORY IS VERY POOR

    try not to be an IDIOT, jumping in his own TRAPS

  • You're a stubborn idiot who believe everything someone says because he's also a Muslim.

    Almost impossible to change a person's views if he was brainwashed since the day he learned to speak.

    This type of moral influence is what I'm trying to prevent, radicalizing children into believing something that was started by a compulsive sinner more than 1400 years ago.

  • You're a stubborn idiot who believe everything someone says because he's also a RACIST.

    Almost impossible to change a person's views if he was brainwashed since the day he learned to speak arrogantly!

  • while JESUS SAID : DO NOT LIE for the sake of RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!!

    Matthew 19:18

    "Which Commandments?" he asked. Jesus answered, "'Thou shalt not kill;' 'Thou shalt not commit adultery;'Thou shalt not steal;' 'THOU SHALL NOT LIE in giving evidence;'

    HOPE THE IGNORANT KID UNDERSTAND THIS!

  • St. PAUL was not the comforter! He used to LIE just to spread the message!

    Tricking the pagans for the sake of righteousness????

  • A good deed was also called a paraclete or advocate. Repentance and good works were called paracletes. LIKE HONESTY OF MUHAMMAD S.A.W

    Don't you mean St. Paul?!

  • The word "Paraclete" came to have a number of meanings, a name applied by the Lord (John 14: 16, 26; John 15: 26; John 16: 7) to the Holy Spirit "RIGHTEOUS ONE", and which may be translated Comforter, Advocate, COUNSELOR or Helper MESSENGER.

  • FLIPSY don't understand what Paraclete means but Apostle John describe the Holy Spirit as 'companion' or COUNSELOR to be with the disciples "forever," after Jesus is gone, a 'comforter' in his gospel.

  • CRAP!

    paracletus or PARAKLETES GREEK WORD MEANS "COUNSELOR" "TEACHER" "LEADER"

    from where did you GET THIS FANCY CRAP IDEA KID???? PARAKLETES MEANS "holy spirit"????

    DON'T ACT LIKE JENO long chin DUDE!

    ano akala mo sakin TANGA????? I have GREEK DICTIONARY HERE!!!!! besides 7 editions of HISTORY BOOKS!!!! READ LITTLE CRAP!

  • Paraclete is a decription of a 'Holy Spirit'

    There is nothing Holy to describe Muhammad, he is not just a pedophile but a murderer who killed a woman while nursing her baby, he ordered to have another woman(a poet) killed-she was torn apart tied between two camels, 120 year old man on his order was killed, Abdullah Sarh, scribe who wrote the Quran for Muhammad but he was killed after he left Islam when he suspected Quran was not from Allah and many more atrocity no need to mention.

  • The sin offering is a paraclete; the paraclete created by each good deed is called an angel in Jewish Encyclopedia, IX, 514-15, article "Paraclete"

    To Muslim apologists, they insist paraclete is a man, not a good deed, sin offering or Holy Spirit. Another way to fool their fellow Muslims to make them believe that Muhammad was mentioned in the Bible.

  • Muslims don't understand what Paraclete means but Apostle John describe the Holy Spirit as 'companion' to be with the disciples "forever," after Jesus is gone, a 'comforter' in his gospel. The word "Paraclete" came to have a number of meanings, a name applied by the Lord (John 14: 16, 26; John 15: 26; John 16: 7) to the Holy Spirit, and which may be translated Comforter, Advocate, or Helper.

    A good deed was also called a paraclete or advocate. Repentance and good works were called paracletes.

  • Indeed history tells us that many early Christians understood the Paraclete to be a man and not a spirit. This might explain the followings who responded to some who claimed, without meeting the criteria stipulated by Jesus, to be the awaited "Paraciete".

  • Such a designation is however inconsistent with the profile of that Paraclete. In the words of the Dictionary of the Bible, (Ed. J. Mackenzie)

    "These items, it must be admitted do not give an entirely coherent picture."

  • In the Gospel according to John (Chapters 14, 15, 16) Jesus spoke of the "Paraclete" or comforter who will come after him, who will be sent by Father as another Paraclete, who will teach new things which the contemporaries of Jesus could not bear. While the Paraclete is described as the spirit of truth, (whose meaning resemble Muhammad's famous title Al-Amin, the trustworthy), he is identified in one verse as the Holy Ghost (John 14:26).

  • THAT PROPHET- PARACLETE- MUHAMMAD S.A.W

    Up to the time of Jesus (peace be upon him), the Israelites were still awaiting for that prophet like unto Moses prophecied in Deuteronomy 18:18. When John the Baptist came, they asked him if he was Christ and he said "no". They asked him if he was Elias and he said "no". Then, in apparent reference to Deuteronomy 18:18, they asked him "Art thou that Prophet" and he answered, "no".

    (John 1: 1 9-2 1).

  • This latter verse correctly describes the "stammering lips" of Prophet Muhammad reflecting the state of tension and concentration he went through at the time of revelation. Another related point is that the Qur'an was revealed in piece-meals over a span of twenty three years. It is interesting to compare this with Isaiah 28:10 whichspeaks of the same thing.

  • Was it another coincidence that Isaiah ties between the messenger connected with Ke'dar and a new song

    (a scripture in a new language) to be sang unto the Lord

    (Isaiah 42:10-11).

    More explicitly, prophesies Isaiah "For with stammering lips, and another tongue, will he speak to this people"

    (Isaiah 28:11).

  • Was it a coincidence that the prophet "like unto Moses" from the "brethren" of the Israelites (i.e. from the lshmaelites) was also described as one in whose mouth God will put his words and that he will speak in the name of God, (Deuteronomy 18:18-20). Was it also a coincidence the "Paraclete" that Jesus foretold to come after Him was described as one who "shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak (John 16:13)

  • THE QUR'AN FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE?

    For twenty-three years, God's words (the Qur'an) were truly put into Muhammad's mouth. He was not the "author" of the Qur'an. The Qur'an was dictated to him by Angel Gabriel who asked Muhammad to simply repeat the words of the Qur'an as he heard them. These words were then committed to memory and to writing by those who hear them during Muhammad's life time and under his supervision.

  • QUR'AN is a an EVIL BOOK???

    WTF!

    then WHY YOUR BIBLE SUPPORTED THIS BOOK??? and respectfully PREDICTED?

    CRAP!!!! don't make another DICK SHOW

    MR. FLIP!

    BIBLIYA NGA HINDI MO ALAM EH! QUR'AN PA KAYA!!!! CRAP!!!

  • If rational people who knew what's right and wrong but yet acquired their wealth through sins like what the WESTERNERS DOING, such as murders and stealing, I guarantee it is impossible for them to enter God's kingdom.!!!

    welcome to the new world order FLIP

  • Asum - just a caveat on Westerners. Most aspire to great things but don't really understand the true value of living. Politicians from the west - who make war for profit - are not representative of the majority who oppose them for this.

    Back to Mindanao, the issue is about ancestral domain.  Flip and others like to strike fear into many that this is about Islam vs Christianity.

    This is cos he is playing to the lowest human animals - 'the ignorant and fearful'.

    You/I have seen before.

  • Those rich people who only want to get richer because of their greed are supported by other people of the same category, they are sinners themselves by neglecting the message of their BIBLE.

    They can not bring their riches to their final destination but if they share their wealth to the poor they will be blessed. (IF GOD'S WILL)

  • it seems the war on mindanao is not over

    between muslim amd christian

  • Those rich people who only want to get richer because of their greed are supported by other people of the same category, they are sinners themselves by neglecting the message of God.

    They can not bring their riches to their final destination but if they share their wealth to the poor they will be blessed.

    If rational people who knew what's right and wrong but yet acquired their wealth through sins, such as murders and stealing, I guarantee it is impossible for them to enter God's kingdom.

  • @FLip-

    religion is not the problem in Mindanao

    but religion is being used by the mulit-billioneirs who earned it in mindanao

    they cultivate extremism from settlers & moro, so they will fight- while the Billioneirs continue to earn

    by citing your religious comments- you cultivate extremism from your side

    do you realize?

  • The Shi'ahs think the Companions of Muhammad, the transmitters of the Quran, were liars. In adition, their belief that the Imams of the ahl al-Bait were also liars, and used to observe taqiyyah (religious dissimulation). If all the Sahabah and the member of the Prophetic household were lairs, from whence did they receive the original Quran from Muhammad.

    Their primary sources testify that the present Quran has been tampered with, some things added, and some omitted.

  • The Quran is nothing but an illusion by a sick evil mind of Muhammad

    Through centuries it was corrupted by Muslims to make it's original verses seem perfect and amazing, that no man can ever create such and such..but from Allah.

    And when Muslims question its mistakes like the earth being flat - Surah 71:19, "'And Allah has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out) or errors regarding its verses after they learned the Bible...then Muslim apologists come up with their own interpretation.

  • Ginawa ni Muhammad ang Koran para bigyan ng katwiran ang

    * magasawa ng 9 na taon na bata, si Aisha, mga kaptibo nyang mga babaeng alipin, kamaganak na babae at magkaroon ng 21 na asawa

    * kapangyarihan para matangal ang 'polytheism' sa Arabia, na maraming 'moon Gods' at isingit ang natutunan nya sa Biblia ng mga Jews.

    * ikalat ang Islam sa mga katabing mga bansa sa paraan ng karahasan

    * magkaroon ng kayamanan para lumaki ang kanyang hukbo

    * pumatay ng mga tao at sabihin na utos ni Allah

  • Masyado kang nagdedepensa sa Quran..mag utos ba ang tunay na Diyos na patayin ang mga hindi naniniwala sa kanya?

    Ang Diyos sa Biblia hindi magutos na pumatay ng taong hindi naniniwala pero magpaparusa sa mga makasalanan, yan ang deperensya sa Biblia at Koran.

    Ang pumatay ng tao kahit sino sya man ay kasalanan, yan ay utos ng Diyos sa 'ten commandments' sa Torah.

  • Kaelangan ko pa bang elagay ang mga violence sa Quran sa dami?..eto ang isa:

    Surah 47:4 "So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives....Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam"

  • ETO KASI SI FLIsPY!!!! mg guys!!

    Matthew 15:8 "These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me."

    PANO MO NAMAN MASASABING VIOLENCE ANG IsLAM EH MISMONG BIBLIYA MO ANG DAMING VERSES NG VIOLENCE!!!

    ni isang verse sa QUR'AN WALA KANG MAIPAKITA NA VIOLENCE NGA ANG ISLAM!!!

    tapos TATAKAS KA SA DEBATE NATIN????

    bakit natatakot kabang MALAMN ANG RELIHIYON MO!!!??????

    guys don't worry because this person is nothing but SICK SHOWER!! di na kasi matanggap ang TRUTH!!

  • YOUR NOT RACIST???? BUT WHY YOU HATE MINDANAOAN MUSLIMS and other relgions like MUSLIM!!!??? mr. hypocrite??

    ANG GULO MO RIN ANO!!!!

    PEACEFUL KAMInG MAKIKIPAG USAP KUNG PEACEFUL DIN ANG PAKIKIPAG USAP MO!!!

    "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

    dada ka ng dada... PAKITANG TAO KALANG!!

  • the KING ordered it, not by God or Jesus Christ. ?????

    DI HINDI PALA ITO DAPAT NA ISULAT SA BIBLE????

    LUKE 19:15 KASI HIndI NAMAN PALA!!!

    ang hina mo sa logic...

    PANO FAIRY TAILS LANG ANG LAMAN NG BIBLE MO!!!!

    LOL!!! the bible has 20,000 errors which until NOW cannot BE CORRECTED according to the (UNITY OF CHRISTIANS SCHOLARS)

    MAG ARAL KABATA HIndi YUNG NAGBIBIGAY KA NG SARILI MONG OPINIONS SA VERSES!!!!

    ANO KA DIYOS????

  • I'm not racist, I'm only against a religion full of violence I know it's not from God..I wish all people follow Jesus Christ teachings so there will be peace on earth..but to be realistic, this will never happen.

    It will depend on each one of us to learn the truth, not what our government, priest or whoever tell and trust them right away

  • This is hard because people feel they are betraying their customs, traditions and their country which is founded on the basic principles of their religion whether Islam, Hinduism, Judaism Buddhism,Jainism, Judaism, Shinto, Sikhism, Taoism and others.

    There is no country founded on Christianity because Jesus Christ is everything about love and peace..no one follow God's ten commandments in the Torah because everyone is a sinner. That was the reason why Jesus Christ was here on earth.

  • hey! i already answer your challege 2 days ago..

    can you answer it or again just NOT ACCEPTING that verse at your personal whim?

    what?? no country founded on Christianity...thats enoug proof for many

    so even the man-made Socialism Idea has beaten you

  • So many are deceived by men who are evil..that happens when people lack education and brainwashed by others who themselves are brainwashed. If people only believe by the words of mouth from others who are eloquent speakers without putting an effort through rigorous research, applying logic, understanding and acquiring knowledge of other people's religion or its foundation..they will never learn the truth.

  • @Flip

    wow! then you shud run for President!

    you have logic but its clouded by ur RACIST attitudes to the Bangsamoro just bcoz their Belief is different

    ha-ha!

  • Don't fabricate stories here, some readers have more knowledge than you to believe your lies...only other gullible Muslims might believe you but not all coz you don't have a rationality on your comments here except criticism.

  • Can you explain Flip why a christian just tried to rob CNN hero of the year, Efren Peñaflorida, in Manila?

    Don't you respect your heroes in the Philippines?

    Are these the values you defend to the World?

  • @FLIP-

    No good Christian wud believe you- after the debate w. ASUS- you reject some Bible verses & accepts some at your personal whim?

    who gave you THAT authority?

    here a verse:

    "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." — Luke 19:27

    this is from a RED LETER Bible w/c qoutes Jesus words in red!

  • You don't understand because this is a part of parable of Jesus Christ..a moral story, and in the beginning of this parable, the KING ordered it, not by God or Jesus Christ.

    Here is the beginning:

    Luke 19:15 "He was made king, however, and returned home. Then he sent for the servants to whom he had given the money, in order to find out what they had gained with it.

  • You will only lose an argument and embarrassed if you presented a verse showing Jesus Christ teaching violence. Just like most Muslims who are brainwashed by others that Holy Bible is corrupted or full of violence, the fundamental reason is they don't know the Holy Bible and they don't want to... they believe whatever was fed to them.

  • Doe it really matter right now if we are Muslim, Christian, LUMAD or any other faith? Though we can argue and disagree on 'points', let's just try to get along and respect each other to make lasting peace.

    IMO, there are some who's task is to drive wedges between good people - cause confusion and conflict so that they gain.

    Just please let us all not fall into this trap.

    Let's talk practicalities to make peace in Mindanao and what we have in common over religious differences.

  • What is the 'true' version of the bible Flip?

    The bible you quote was written by men in Nicea c.325AD for power (the Roman Catholic church). It was and still is about dominating ignorant people like cattle for greed and power.

    Are you one who dominates others or belonging to the cattle?

  • What is more important is for good people to come together to make peace over and above the crappy GRP politics which have alienated most of the civilized world against the Philippines and caused thousands to die.

    You can note that nobody trusts GRP anymore to even give aid due to their money being siphoned for arms/murder.

    Place is totally fucked because of corruption and idiots towing the arrroyo/oligarch line.

    Great country and people.

  • You don't have to practice Islam to know it's principles. Islamic laws derived from the Quran and history has defined what Islam is all about.

    Some of its passages that are disturbing, it contradict other clear verses of the scripture. If Allah of the Koran is just and merciful how come HE promises to cast terror, instruct believers to punish by death, amputate hands and feet, kill unbelievers, capture and ambush them, if God in the Torah and Jesus Christ don't endorse barbarism and evil acts?

  • you said SOME- as QUR'AN is the Final Arbiter till the End of Times- thats why it COVERS all topics of Human Society not just Spiritual Aspects

    this FEW verses is not to be JUDGED in the light of the WHOLENESS of the Qur'an- as in the Bible- to be fair to all

    If I can show you verses in Torah & words of Jesus Christ- teaching about violence...will you accept these verses as part of BIBLE?

    as i read ur comments w/ ASUS- that you reject and accept Bible verses at your personal whim/judgement?

  • The MILF rebels are using these same principles adopted by their former leader Sheikh Salamat Hashim that continued to this day. He and others acquired their studies in the Middle East so their ideas and efforts lead to the formation of separatist movement- MNLF and MILF

    The methodology of the MILF according to Salamat is complete submission to the Will of Allah. This is manifested in the Quran's verse, Sura 51:56 "I have only created Jinn and Man that they may serve Me."

    Jinn is the Devil

  • The defining features of Islamic fundamentalism is belief in the reopening of the gates of jihad, this is the root of Islamic extremism. Although fundamentalist groups preach a theology which values the earliest traditions of Islam, it remains promoting the idea of violent revolution against non-Muslims. It is the ideological framework to the principles of Islam, which is against capitalism, socialism and democracy, in order to fight against unjust government.

  • @flip- you are not a practitioner of Islam so you are not an authority to define its concept & principles

    In all Beliefs- there is are learned ppl who is qualified as its teacher

    are you a learned man by years of academic study in Christianity? in Islam?

    or self taught?

    ALL above ASSUMPTION is wrong.

    Jihad has wide meaning- it can also be peaceful- an example is self disciple- an endeavor to become a perfect person

    Islam is a middle way/moderate way of Capitalism, Socialism & Democracy

  • @FLIP- maybe you mean Extremist-

    for Fundamentalist just follows the Fundamentals of their belief- of whatever belief

    but there are Extremist in all religions including yours

    those answering you based on ISSUES here are not Extremist but common ppl like you

    discuss ISSUES- dont treat it personally or label those who answer you back negatively

    even if they disagree

  • All you Muslim fundamentalists do is use unintended Muslim civilian casualties of war as propaganda and promote hatred among Muslim population, you always find ways and excuses as justification for violence. The AFP's duty is to protect the civilian population from the atrocity being committed by the MILF rebels no matter how much you accuse the government of corruption.

  • The Moro and LUMAD tribes are far more pure and righteus in their pursuit of Ancestral Domain and rights than Filam/those from Manila who don't know their ass from their elbow.

    Indigenous peoples in Mindanao are killed by scumbags from Manila - supported by mining companies, logging companies and the greedy - on a daily basis because of power and greed from those living for money.

    Most have never seen rainforest or coral reefs, but they are expert at working for those who kill for money.

  • @FLIP- yes everybody cud be suspect- how about the corrupt GRP who wants to extend terms in office?! ha-ha-

    an obvious bias comment from you FLIP

    your report qoutin biazon- is after the 'turning of backs' of GRP to sign the initialled MOA-AD/BJE &

    years ago of the IMT returning to their respective countries due to delays (intended?) of GRP in observance of request procedures for them stay

  • Sen. Rodolfo Biazon said 62 bombings and attempted bomb attacks have been recorded in the country since January..22 people were hurt in the last bomb attack..this was reported in July of this year.

    Anyone could be responsible of these bombings including the MILF, not just ASG and JI.

    Arroyo is always trying to be diplomatic, she wants to portray the country as not a dangerous place to visit in the minds of foreigners, it will hurt the tourism industry.

  • Even there are IMT in Mindanao, the ceasefire agreement was ignored and it has been violated a number of times..many are not reported by IMT probably because they comprises majority of Malaysians or from the OIC, who are MILF sympathizers.

  • @FLIP- it was reported..who are you fooling?

    google it- its public knowledge-

    The IMT published, acknowledge observance frm both sides w/c reduces skirmishes to 95%

    even PGMA in her interview in al-jazeera acknowledges-search it

    this proves International presene is needed

    if i can show you the link..would you admit you made this particular info & remove this comment?

  • The sophisticated weapons, the satellite guided missiles have minimized innocent civilians casualties, which is sometimes unavoidable if the terrorist are using the general population as place of battles.

    That is their tactics, to use innocent civilians killed by US forces as their own propaganda.

    That is what the US military is trying to avoid, they prefer in control of these weapons they trained so hard to operate rather than untrained AFP that might result so many civilian casualties.

  • How can the Moro suggest they can do a better control of an expanded ARMM if they have not demonstrated they can keep peace, law and order in ARMM since it was established their autonomy?

    If GRP acquire advance and sophisticated weapons system from the US, I assure you it will not be used against innocent civilians but to bring the MILF to surrender.

  • flip- who are you to assure? the US cant even assure no civilians was being killed by their advanced weapons at present

    during the 11yrs peace process, even the Intl Monitoring Team(IMT) was impressed by the observance of Ceasefire by both sides during the talks

    this proves that GRP needs Intl help in the resolution of this longest conflict

    anyway it was GRP who further embarrassed itself that it cant answer Mindanao Question

  • If resilient enemies who commit evil acts can not be overpower with good and can not be brought to the bargaining table to bring all the terrorism and violence to stop, the only option is military force to achieve peace.

  • @FLIP- in BJE areas- the present ARMM- let the Bangsamoro- police themselves-

    if BJE is implemented w/ support /understanding of majority pilipino ppl- BJE police will root-out any destroyers of peace w/in BJE

    then GRP can police GRP more areas

    is that not good for all ppl & country? or will you say BJE police is against Phil. CONSTITUTION?

    pls answer

  • Military equipments purpose is not to be used to kill innocent civilians. If that is the AFP's intention then they are committing a violation of human rights themselves.

    Unbiased International monitoring team should published reports on any atrocity committed by either AFP or MILF.

  • That is why the MILF and GRP should set aside all their differences, the MILF should make it clear those rogue commanders will comply with an agreement, discuss disarmament, a crucial part of a negotiation, and come up with a peace proposal mostly within the framework of the Constitution that they know majority in southern Mindanao will not opposed to.

  • @FLIP- in fairness- GRP & Moro are setting aside their differences

    the Moro set aside its desire for Independence

    the GRP set aside its Constitution

    before they started talks 12yrs ago

    both started to think 'outside the box'

    yet ppl like you- wanted to come back to the Constitution 'alibi'

    yet you are claiming that you are already 'thinking outside the box'

    contradiction again frm you..can you think of any solution outside the Constitution?

  • Flip - Why don't you go learn to fly the apache helicopters that you want to see kill people in Mindanao?

    Think about this while you drive on the LA freeways a million miles from Mindanao.

  • For others, this war has become a game to them because of the length.

    Muslim rebels who started young experiencing terror and brutality were psychologically detached from reality. They become addicted to violence, deaths and destruction because they haven't experience love and compassion from fellow human beings.

    Why kind of parents will encourage their children to fight a rebellion that don't seem to end they knew might get them killed someday?

  • @FLIP- to your two Q- ill answer

    no military solution will end this conflict- only a political settlement as evidenced by ur observation

    2nd- the GRP has no political will to face the oligarch family who earn in mindanao riches-

    added by prejudiced of common filipinos confusion that this is religious- so military solution is popular in the majority

    any President will opt to dance around/delay solving this conflict & opt to pass it on to the next leader

    due to lack of pressure frm us-voters

  • For some reasons, government officials can not collectively come up with their best solution in the Mindanao issue despite the number of war casualties filing up while the Muslim rebels also continue to justifiably unyielding to the world's persistent efforts, including the pope, to honor ceasefire agreement and make peace with the GRP.

    Why is it that complicated to settle a peace agreement for a long time when thousands of people's lives are at stake?

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  • they have ww2 weapons i say a b. a.r. do they still make ammo for his weapons

  • Since the modified proposal of ARMM is not presented yet I can only speculate the MILF will try to push for a charter change once again next year which has been proven it is not easy due to the credibility of this current administration.

    For now, the MILF should honor the ceasefire agreement if they want this peace talks to continue. They should refrain from involving in any military operation if the AFP are in pursuit of the Abusayyaf if they do not want to be regarded as a terrorist group.

  • @FLIP- just ask your Presidentiables on how he/she answer the Moro Question once & for all

    put them this difficult question & dont let them avoid in answering it direct

    this will greatly help all of us

  • @FLIP- current Peace Agreement only involves Moro Majority areas(ARMM)

    Whos majority are you referring to?

    those included in the expanded ARMM(BJE) are mixed Moro/Lumad & Settler Areas- have a choice waiting period of 25yrs before a PLEBISITE do decide if they want to be included in BJE or not

    MOA-AD doesnt mention what you used to scare ppl here by ur comments- besides MOA-AD is not final- Comprehensive Compact is the final document

    check ur info

  • Maybe they can manipulate Arroyo to do all she can to sign a peace agreement but not those lives who will be significantly affected by that agreement.

    The MILF should accept the fact that the majority of the stakeholders and organizations in those provinces they want to include in ARMM don't want change, they prefer the current business regulations and the laws of the Constitution...not the Islamic laws or Sharia Laws they want to impose.

  • Now the Moro have ARMM from the MNLF agreement with the GRP which is their Final Peace Agreement..the Muslim rebels should have been satisfied.

    Their problem, those original provinces in the Tripoli Agreement have voted not to be included in ARMM when they held a referendum back in 2001.

    Now, the MILF is trying a new approach..to include them in their ARMM expansion-the BJE, prior to any plebiscite.

  • what one purpose in mind? what death & destruction? what drive & eradicate?

    did this happen in the present ARMM? NO

    so your imagining all these- these was also the 'scare tactics' before ARMM

    the reality is as GRP & S.Court admits- it didny stop/minimize the Conflict due to inadequencies to past agreements

    so they co-aurthored a New Agreement-

    its an endless effort until we find a most peaceful/least disruptive agreement

    as GRP is co maker of MOA-AD- i also supports GRP good intentions

  • The tolerant policy of this current administration and unending peace talks has only made the rebels regroup and recruited more members than those who have deserted.

  • The imagined scary scenario you're saying is real due to the fact that the Moro rebels have only one purpose in mind, to turn Mindanao and Palawan into a separate state.

    In doing so, they will perpetrate more deaths and destruction to drive and eradicate all those who are against their vision of Mindsupala Moro state. All they need is wealth and political power to build a formidable military force.

    Have you heard of terrorism?

  • @FLIP- the only argument against us for BJE is if we failed to prosper under it

    until that is not tried by the Moro themselves- your position of 'scary' scenario is just pure imagination

    if we fail in BJE- we will be contented that we tried

    but if we prosper- even whole Country will benefit for the peace & prosperous atmosphere

    what is there to lose in trying BJE- why wont you let us prove ourselves?

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