bigfredNC: I will check video 2 to see if you breakdown 1Cor.14:2 etc. BUT so far you have only attempted to drag the listeners into siding against the argument from Christians *WITHOUT breaking down 1Cor.14:2!
1Cor.14:2 in the next clip will you again try to have us lean upon OPINION or will you lean on the argument of what is written AFTER rightly divided...
By the way who was YHWH talking about in Isa.28:11-12? i.e. even that Paul brought up in 1Cor.14:21?!?!?
With all due respect to the speaker, the word "unknown" when referring to tongues is found in the King James translation. However, it is added in (= italicized), but you will not find it in the Greek and many other translations. This is the starting point for much confusion about this subject.
Pt.1-farblosaludiert: I always tell ppl that the word "unknown" though italicized in the KJV it was put there for a reason.
How about you or any other person that brings this up tell us what word should be there? How do ANY of the verses where unknown is mentioned make ANY sense without the word "unknown" being there!
Also people lie against the fact that there was a common language between the believers in Acts 2:6-12
Peter did *not PREACH 15 different messages in Acts 2:14-37
Pt.2-farblosaludiert: People try to say Tongues was only for the Apostles when this is a LIE! First off it was initially the Baptism of the Holy Spirit that was given in Acts 2:4 (Acts 1:5 & Mt.3:11) & the Baptism of the Holy Spirit was always given with a sign/evidence of Tongues (except Acts 8:12-17 though what SIGN Simon saw is debated also)...
15 different interpretations were NOT given when Peter spoke from Acts 2:14-37so what happened? THEY *HEARD in their own tongue!
Good Sir, My comment was not an opinion but a fact. I don't say that in a proud manner, but if you wish to take issue with someone, try with those who make more scathing remarks.
As for myself, I am in no way condemning anyone, and will continue to ponder this and other scriptural matters for clarity and understanding. Good Day
weren't tongues given to the apostles so they could go out and minister to nations whose language they didn't speak in their own culture? God understands you in your own language, He doesn't need you to speak in some 'divine' tongue to understand you... these preachers spit out gibberish in church to sound like the Spirit has welled up in them and no one knows what they are saying at all. Why don't we ever hear them speak a real language? Like Spanish? Japanese? Swahili? Arabic? Nothing...
Good post. You are exactly right. When ministers in the pulpit start spewing tongues (or their "version" of tongues), there is no interpretation whatsover. Paul tells us that when tongues are spoken, they should be interpreted. Otherwise, we are simply speaking into the air.
Tongues are REAL, human languages. Also, if everyone in the congregation speaks the same language, then what is the point of speaking in tongues?
suaved: You can't even show me one bible verse where it is saying that Tongues are exclusive to human languages only!
I can show you verses where there are TONGUES that are UNKNOWN to the human dialect & human mind & supernatural (naturally unacquired)...
Plus you guys exclude the Gifts of interpretation of Tongues, but only bcuz you guys have NEVER received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, so you try to demonize believers who speak in tongues & this alone is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit!
Soulja4Alethia: How do you know if they are speaking a real language? You just listed 4 languages *ONLY yet there is at least 6,800 different languages around the world today & this is not counting the loss languages...
This is just for the sake of the earthly language argument...Not alone when we are dealing with the "unknown" tongue...1Cor.14:2 etc.
Yall be quick to scream it's gibberish etc. have you not defined "strange tongue" in Isa.28:11 which Paul ref. in 1Cor.14:21?
It is a common misconception that speaking in tongues is a "heavenly" language. The Bible, however, tells us that these are actually earthly languages, not ethereal:
"And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born?" Acts 2:6-8
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I don't speak chinese, does that mean Chinese is an UNKNOWN tounge? No. An unknown toungue is not known to ANY man. I didn't understand the gibbersish you babbbled (becuase I don't plan on watching the rest of your demonic teaching to find out what you said) but like you said, it IS understood by someone, hence it is not "unknown".
I concur. It is amazing that we are so busy debating religion and not striving for relationship. I believe that something draws us, but relationship keeps us.
If you can answer YES to these 2 questions, you can speak in tounges. 1>DO YOU HAVE A TOUNGE?.....2>DO YOU HAVE AN I.Q. OVER THAT OF AN AVERAGE 2ND GRADE CHILD?.....If a parrot can memorize phrases of ANY language so can any idiot....they arent demons..lol
Tongues first given men understood own language. Tongues to spread Gospel of Jesus Christ to gentiles.
If Italian person was given gift to speak Greek, gift was permenant, without repentance. It means this Italian could go to his own Italian Church, begin to pray in Greek even though everyone is Italian.
It's at this time he is speaking to God not unto men, it's not babble.
This guy is funni. He says that the language he spoke was unknown, but someone in the studio knows what he said...just said two different things. tongues is unfruitful to the human (fleshly) mind. DUH!
You missed the brothers comment. He said the viewers did not understand what he said, therefore it was an unknown tongue, hence speaking in the air. However, those in the studio who heard him and spoke Hebrew understood him and new what he said.
Shalom Big Fred;I am so happy to be a part of NCCI Charlotte Family where the Truth is being taught! We be not as those who use the word of YAH deceitfuly. E. Singletery (Naome)
Shalom to you Big Fred NC. Thank you for posting these videos to "You Tube." Our family loves NCCI-Charlotte. We look forward to receiving more educational edification in the near future. After all, we don't want to be theocratic dummies. LOL
bigfredNC: I will check video 2 to see if you breakdown 1Cor.14:2 etc. BUT so far you have only attempted to drag the listeners into siding against the argument from Christians *WITHOUT breaking down 1Cor.14:2!
1Cor.14:2 in the next clip will you again try to have us lean upon OPINION or will you lean on the argument of what is written AFTER rightly divided...
By the way who was YHWH talking about in Isa.28:11-12? i.e. even that Paul brought up in 1Cor.14:21?!?!?
(sigh)......
MANUAIM 1 year ago
With all due respect to the speaker, the word "unknown" when referring to tongues is found in the King James translation. However, it is added in (= italicized), but you will not find it in the Greek and many other translations. This is the starting point for much confusion about this subject.
farblosaludiert 2 years ago
Pt.1-farblosaludiert: I always tell ppl that the word "unknown" though italicized in the KJV it was put there for a reason.
How about you or any other person that brings this up tell us what word should be there? How do ANY of the verses where unknown is mentioned make ANY sense without the word "unknown" being there!
Also people lie against the fact that there was a common language between the believers in Acts 2:6-12
Peter did *not PREACH 15 different messages in Acts 2:14-37
MANUAIM 1 year ago
Pt.2-farblosaludiert: People try to say Tongues was only for the Apostles when this is a LIE! First off it was initially the Baptism of the Holy Spirit that was given in Acts 2:4 (Acts 1:5 & Mt.3:11) & the Baptism of the Holy Spirit was always given with a sign/evidence of Tongues (except Acts 8:12-17 though what SIGN Simon saw is debated also)...
15 different interpretations were NOT given when Peter spoke from Acts 2:14-37so what happened? THEY *HEARD in their own tongue!
SHAMA-H8085
MANUAIM 1 year ago
Good Sir, My comment was not an opinion but a fact. I don't say that in a proud manner, but if you wish to take issue with someone, try with those who make more scathing remarks.
As for myself, I am in no way condemning anyone, and will continue to ponder this and other scriptural matters for clarity and understanding. Good Day
farblosaludiert 1 year ago
weren't tongues given to the apostles so they could go out and minister to nations whose language they didn't speak in their own culture? God understands you in your own language, He doesn't need you to speak in some 'divine' tongue to understand you... these preachers spit out gibberish in church to sound like the Spirit has welled up in them and no one knows what they are saying at all. Why don't we ever hear them speak a real language? Like Spanish? Japanese? Swahili? Arabic? Nothing...
Soulja4Alethia 2 years ago 2
Good post. You are exactly right. When ministers in the pulpit start spewing tongues (or their "version" of tongues), there is no interpretation whatsover. Paul tells us that when tongues are spoken, they should be interpreted. Otherwise, we are simply speaking into the air.
Tongues are REAL, human languages. Also, if everyone in the congregation speaks the same language, then what is the point of speaking in tongues?
suaved 2 years ago 2
suaved: You can't even show me one bible verse where it is saying that Tongues are exclusive to human languages only!
I can show you verses where there are TONGUES that are UNKNOWN to the human dialect & human mind & supernatural (naturally unacquired)...
Plus you guys exclude the Gifts of interpretation of Tongues, but only bcuz you guys have NEVER received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, so you try to demonize believers who speak in tongues & this alone is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit!
MANUAIM 1 year ago
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@MANUAIM
"You can't even show me one bible verse where it is saying that Tongues are exclusive to human languages only!"
1 Corinthians 14:10. Now sit down.
suaved 1 year ago
Soulja4Alethia: How do you know if they are speaking a real language? You just listed 4 languages *ONLY yet there is at least 6,800 different languages around the world today & this is not counting the loss languages...
This is just for the sake of the earthly language argument...Not alone when we are dealing with the "unknown" tongue...1Cor.14:2 etc.
Yall be quick to scream it's gibberish etc. have you not defined "strange tongue" in Isa.28:11 which Paul ref. in 1Cor.14:21?
REPENT!
MANUAIM 1 year ago
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It is a common misconception that speaking in tongues is a "heavenly" language. The Bible, however, tells us that these are actually earthly languages, not ethereal:
"And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born?" Acts 2:6-8
Utopiang 3 years ago
You are teaching from the book of Corinthians which was written by a man who "spoke in tongues". The Apostle Paul.
elcoley 4 years ago
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I don't speak chinese, does that mean Chinese is an UNKNOWN tounge? No. An unknown toungue is not known to ANY man. I didn't understand the gibbersish you babbbled (becuase I don't plan on watching the rest of your demonic teaching to find out what you said) but like you said, it IS understood by someone, hence it is not "unknown".
AGradysParadise 4 years ago
I concur. It is amazing that we are so busy debating religion and not striving for relationship. I believe that something draws us, but relationship keeps us.
lneely12 4 years ago
If you can answer YES to these 2 questions, you can speak in tounges. 1>DO YOU HAVE A TOUNGE?.....2>DO YOU HAVE AN I.Q. OVER THAT OF AN AVERAGE 2ND GRADE CHILD?.....If a parrot can memorize phrases of ANY language so can any idiot....they arent demons..lol
krew666666 4 years ago
Tongues first given men understood own language. Tongues to spread Gospel of Jesus Christ to gentiles.
If Italian person was given gift to speak Greek, gift was permenant, without repentance. It means this Italian could go to his own Italian Church, begin to pray in Greek even though everyone is Italian.
It's at this time he is speaking to God not unto men, it's not babble.
tonguesRfalse 4 years ago 2
Amen BigFredNC
The term UNKNOWN added by KJV TRANSLATORS & SHOULDN'T BE THERE
FT = False Tongues
FT = Topeka Kansas ZIP CODE bgins with 666. Topeka = TORNADOES The MIGHTY WIND FT claim isnt from GOD but a TORNADO from SATAN
FT CANT b TESTED. GOD = test spirits r of God or Satan = you cant test FT = FT talkers could be CURSING GOD & not know it
FT = Mass Confusion = BABYLON
tonguesRfalse 4 years ago 3
mufasahyisrael
You are point
smush13 4 years ago
This guy is funni. He says that the language he spoke was unknown, but someone in the studio knows what he said...just said two different things. tongues is unfruitful to the human (fleshly) mind. DUH!
Aaronthechef 4 years ago
You missed the brothers comment. He said the viewers did not understand what he said, therefore it was an unknown tongue, hence speaking in the air. However, those in the studio who heard him and spoke Hebrew understood him and new what he said.
mufasahyisrael 4 years ago 2
Which made his point MOOT!!
lneely12 4 years ago
Shalom Big Fred;I am so happy to be a part of NCCI Charlotte Family where the Truth is being taught! We be not as those who use the word of YAH deceitfuly. E. Singletery (Naome)
yahiswithncci 4 years ago
That is very self-righteous of you. Seek relationship, not organization.
lneely12 4 years ago
Shalom to you Big Fred NC. Thank you for posting these videos to "You Tube." Our family loves NCCI-Charlotte. We look forward to receiving more educational edification in the near future. After all, we don't want to be theocratic dummies. LOL
princessaliyyah 4 years ago 2
Hello BIGFRED all of you videos are on point.
Thanks
For the good scripture based study.
smush13 4 years ago