History: Choctaw Indians & Ireland (Éire)

[bellagunn]

Thank you,

I am also Choctaw of Irish decent (Davis from country Claire), and while my family is from Osage Ok, there is still a strong connection to the Irish family (who have spread out, some are in AU and NZ now). The truly remarkable thing is the famine relief effort came in the aftermath of the Treaty Of Dancing Rabbit Creek and the subsequent removal...

Both the Irish people and the Choctaw Nation have a deep culture of generosity.

Yokoke and Sláinte !

[Laoch111]

@bellagunn You are welcome. Thank you for your post. County Clare is in the province of Munster. I too have family from that province. ^_^

[Tushkahvmma]

Halito micha yakoke fiehnah ! Hello and thanks a lot! for helping to share this story. As a citizen of the Choctaw Nation, I was deeply moved by the fact that the Irish remembered and commemorated this donation by our ancestors a century and a half ago.  I feel a strong bond of friendship with the Irish people as a result.

[Laoch111]

@Tushkahvmma Hello my friend, you are most welcome. This act of kindness by the Choctaw Indians will always be remembered.

[Okiecowboi99]

Yakoke (Thank You) This was a great vid! I'm Half Choctaw and Half Irish and I have always been very proud of both!

[UselessBegging]

JUst just never know what you'll find somedays. I am Irish/Choctaw ( my Great-Grandmother from Ireland, my Great-Grandfather Choctaw ) and unfortunately, my Grandmother never discussed her native heritage with her younger children ( she had 9 total ). So it was not until my Mother was well into her 70's that she found out and hence my sister and I. We have always been so spiritual and in tune with Nature that one wonders if this is part of that story. Thanks for teaching me something <3

[Laoch111]

@UselessBegging No problem my friend.

[Peace9821]

I have always wished to join the tribe as it is part of my heritage from my grandmother being born 1/2 choctaw born their in Atoka, Oklahoma, but the court hose records of birth for these born back then were burnt in the fire. She lived her life without a birth certificate as well her siblings. She married my grandfather an Irish man whom road horse back dilivering mail in Atoka, Oklahoma. I wish I could join the tribe ! I live up near the Pine Ridge indian reservation, S. Dacota. (Blackhawk.)

[tuskachata]

I am Choctaw and I want to thank Laoch111 for making this video. The Choctaw and Irish peoples have beautiful heritages. I hope to visit Ireland one day.

[Laoch111]

@tuskachata Cheers. You are very welcome to visit Ireland. Likewise I'd love to visit the Choctaw people in the USA sometime.

[wolvenancestry992]

I appreciate this very much. Thankyou

[Laoch111]

@wolvenancestry992 You are welcome. :-)

[bloodrock333]

WOW ! I Never Knew that It's kinda funny cause I am Irish decedent and Choctaw. Thanks!

[Laoch111]

@bloodrock333 Not a bother. You are welcome. ^_^

[shanepify]

I'm from the choctaw tribe and i show white side on my mom side but my dad is dark and i am proud to be one and will always be proud every time i go to a pow-wow I feel my hart fill up with the spirt's of the one's in the past that keeps me going and makeing me stronger and brave to stand up and say i am proud to be choctaw and i will die as one like the one's that did for me and every one to keep are tribe going like the river runs and it will never stop.

[Laoch111]

@shanepify Hello friend. I love the Choctaw people.

[shanepify]

@Laoch111 Same here friend

[Linguiphile]

I am an American of mostly Irish ancestry, but also some Cherokee and possibly even a little Choctaw or Creek. I grew up in southeastern Oklahoma, the present home of the greatest number of Choctaw, and came to admire their unassuming and gentle nature. I'm very proud of what the Choctaw did for the Irish and their general noble character.

[Laoch111]

@Linguiphile Hello. Thank you for commenting.

[kickedtothemoon]

Thank you for remembering my ancestors. It is nice to see that in Ireland, Choctaws are noted. Our ancestors stories were the much alike. Both endured starvation. Many Irish had to move due to the famine, and our Choctaw ancestors knew the pain of being removed from their homeland. It is very kind of you to pay this tribute. I appreciate you.

[Laoch111]

@SingerAnne You are very welcome.

[OMisTerMan]

Thank you, friend, for remembering my people. Yokoke - Choctaw for 'thank you'

[Laoch111]

@OMisTerMan Your welcome OMisTerMan. The Choctaw people are forever in my thoughts!

[skoggit]

My father was a full blood Chocktaw Indian, he left when I was 6 years old I never got to know him. I am a Deputy Sheriff in Texas and did some research and found out my father died in 2003. Even though I never knew him he gave me something I will always cherish, my Native American Heritage and being Half Chocktaw!

[Laoch111]

@skoggit It is unfortunate that you never got to know him. Certainly, you should be very proud of your Choctaw roots.

[blackmountainboar]

The Choctaw deserve our thanks and support. Never forget their sincere generosity to the Irish. great upload

[Laoch111]

I will be forever grateful to the great Choctaw people.

[borealisimperium]

majority of Americans have indigenous lineage on their ancestry

[bigbeninjax]

Good information. I had never heard of that donation.

[Laoch111]

Thank you.

[nelapurrz]

ChoctawU, please, Laoch111 is right. Please make a video. I know how Choctaw have suffered. No different than many other peoples and cultures. It hits home for both u and I because it is our family and not family many generations removed. This is his video giving thanks. It is a vid made from I-net readily available info. Pls accept it graciously on here and add more info to You Tube. I will help if u'd like. It is info that needs to be known.

[nelapurrz]

This comment is possibly to me b/c u never mention Choctaw roots. Only I do that. 1st, the Irish Princess comment is a joke. 2nd, an elaboration on my Choctaw "roots" - it's a little thing called SEX. It can happen b/w individuals of Irish descent & Choctaw descent.

It can also happen b/w people actually from the land of Eire that have come to US (or vice versa - sex worx even when across oceans) & people that are actually Choctaw.

Give this man some credit. All is he doing is giving thanx.

[nelapurrz]

My daddy's great grandmother was an Irish princess. ; )

Good job presenting the facts given to you. There seem to be many Irish that discuss this, and it is amazing that they have never forgotten. It makes me proud of my Irish and my Choctaw families. Thank you.

[Laoch111]

Your welcome buddy.

[Choctawu]

Can you elaborate on your Choctaw roots?

This is interesting that Irish individuals are making claims as Choctaw.

When the Treaty of Paris was signed by Ireland to occupy our lands. Where was the Choctaw ancestry and why did it not provide for the adherence to the Treaties the Choctaw signed with the USA Commission in 1786. What are you thoughts on this now that genocide has been implicated by the police and military?

[Laoch111]

I never said I had Choctaw roots. Ireland never signed the Treaty of Paris.

[Choctawu]

It appears you are only reading propaganda, in your video you did not

mention anything about the Choctaw Indians in Florida. This is their reservation which has been diminshed by th issue of fee patents.

Most propagandist conviently forget to talk about the military and foreign of our land . These occupations keep our people oppressed. Can you believe in a country of this magnitude we dont have public transportation and no economic development in this 20th century.

[Laoch111]

Choctawu, I invite you to make a video instead of just pointing out the faults of my video. You have said nothing positive, just constant criticism.

[Choctawu]

This is constructive criticism.

What we have experienced from occupants and legal residents is far too extreme, Like Identity theft, Grand Larceny, violators of the laws and Treaties. It is not my intention to frighten you but to make you aware of the facts and truth. It is best to inquire before assuming.

[Choctawu]

Are you calling Choctaws Somalians?

You are making another error.

[Laoch111]

I never mentioned Somalians in my video!

[Choctawu]

Sorry I am Choctaw and I disagree with your video, it is not accurate.

The Choctaws in Okla did not grow Irish potatoes it was Florida and North Carolina Choctaws as well as gave the charity. Howvever, the Choctaws still remain in Florida. Our reservation is still here and the fee patents are still with us to breakup our reservation. Go to Internet Archive and search Choctaw Nation litigation. You are hurting innocent Choctaw People when you dont tell the truth or tell your own version.

[Laoch111]

This video is praising the Choctaws. I don't understand why you say I am 'hurting innocent Choctaw People'.

[nelapurrz]

This person is from Ireland, doing what he can to bring Choctaw people some credit. The info that he lists is pretty much what is on Wiki, etc. Unfortunately, Choctaw in FL and NC are not well known, but thankfully, you have helped by letting others know by your posts. Both of you deserve credit.

[Laoch111]

Well put. The title of the video is 'Choctaw Indians & Éire'. To give a full historical video about the Choctaw Indians alone would take a very long video.

[Choctawu]

Are you speaking of the Erie Indians?

[Laoch111]

No. Éire is the Irish word for Ireland.

[Choctawu]

That is a cool word my jamaican friends Irie. Now I know they are saying the same. We sometime say eureka.

[Choctawu]

That was a worthy response. Thank you!

[nelapurrz]

You may like to contact the various tribal offices and let them know that the available info on the internet, especially Wiki, only lists the OK tribe as having made the donation. I didn't know that the FL and NC bands were involved. This is definitely info that needs to be better known. Thanks for bringing it to our (my) attention.

[caemgen51]

Pat Flannery covered this topic last month in a leture about the Irish Famine. I'll put it on youtube as soon as I can.

[Laoch111]

I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

[caemgen51]

No problem.

[androclestipster]

excellent video my friend. Thanks for the info and the share.

[suzyqplacet]

How heart-warming to know that help among peoples can exist in this way. Thank you for pointing this out this case so clearly and well.

[marcusmalone]

Isn't that interesting? I'd bet the Choctaw people weren't the richest bunch themselves.

[Laoch111]

Yes, the Choctaw people were fairly poor also.

[nelapurrz]

No, they absolutely were not. All American First People were robbed of many things, physical possessions & land were only a part of it. 4 Choctaw 2 come up with this amount of money is beyond amazing, especially considering what they were going thru at that very moment in time. My father is MS Choctaw, and it is my understanding that it was the OK Choctaw that made this donation. It is heartwarming 2 know that these people walked the Trail of Tears & still made such a loving & generous gesture.

[kickedtothemoon]

@marcusmalone quite the opposite indeed, but understood the hardship.

[irishthankgod]

Hiya Ray they were extraordinaryily kind, i think they had been through the trail of tears, also the Ottoman empire smuggled a ship into Wexford , i know the Choctaw donation is remembered here annualy, thanks very much they should never be forgotten and very true , those with the least always gave the most, all the best Cathy

[Laoch111]

I never knew of the Ottoman Empire smuggling a ship in, thanks for that info. Yes, the Trail of Tears was a 500-mile trek to Oklahoma.

[nelapurrz]

The Choctaw were the 1st to walk the Trail of Tears. The named the state of Oklahoma, which means "Red People." It is incredible that the donation is still remembered annually, and it's been more than 150 years. Wow. Awesome. Appreciation like this deserves great respect.

[wyllieohagan]

Thanks very much for making and posting this video.

My grandmother in Ireland often talked about the contribution that the native American indians made to Ireland at the time of the famine.

She maintained then, that the people with less always give the most. That's true today also.

[Laoch111]

Absolutely and vice versa; in many cases those who have the most give very little or nothing at all.

[robinphillips]

Was like a mini National Geographic ;-)

[Laoch111]

Why thank you Robin.

: )

[ShallAdoreCats]

The Choctaw sound like a very caring group of people. The links you provided were very interesting. I enjoyed reading the articles. I would have never know the generosity of these people. Thank you for sharing.

[strangeattractor291]

Very intresting Ray ;)

[BasicModelling]

I didn't know that.. :)

[Laoch111]

Unfortunately not many people know of this, therefore I felt it was needed to spread the word. The Choctaw Indians at that time were very poor, yet still raised & gave so much money. $710 at that time was a colossus amount of money.

[Honeybea264]

Brilliant,RAy.Wunderfully put together and stunning information. And I just LOVE your accent.

All the best,

Bea

[Laoch111]

Thank you Bea. I notice that you say certain words with a slightly Irish accent. It mixes well with your German accent.

[Honeybea264]

Thänk yöu, Räymönd :-)

[ananya7ananya]

good video!