@penfold357007 The best way to reduce leading is proper bullet fit. If you are leading try +.001 or .002 of the bullet when sizing. If I can get away with it I try to shoot as casted/dropped.
@penfold357007 The best way to reduce leading is proper bullet fit. If you are leading try +.001 or .002 of the bullet when sizing. If I can get away with it I try to shoot as casted/dropped. Lubes will work also to prevent leading but as I stated proper bullet fit works best. Slug your barrel to see what your true bore size is and then go from there.
good video i do that method when im resizing my bullets i use the container my resizing die came in i just do what he did tumble it back and fourth in each container then when they are resized to the correct diameter i use wd40 to clean them with a cotton rag that works very good his method is really really good but expensive
Tumbling loaded rounds can change power consistancy and thus change pressures inside the bullet casing. From my learing it's not a safe or recommended practice.
@paininthe10 No it does NOT change the burn rate. Show me one shred of proof that it does.(Not just because my uncle bob says so or something from a powder company that their lawyers tells them to say) Did you know that ammo companies tumble their ammo before its shipped out for a final cleaning? Google it!
you really shouldnt run the finished bullets in the vibrating case cleaner it breakes down the gun powder changing its chemistry just a thoutght........ lots of places ive seen has advised against this
@NetRanger101 No it does NOT change the burn rate. Show me one shred of proof that it does.(Not just because my uncle bob says so or something from a powder company that their lawyers tells them to say) Did you know that ammo companies tumble their ammo before its shipped out for a final cleaning? Google it!
@skelly607 i googled it i found pro's and con's for tumbling . it is true ammo companies tumble. one thing to keep in mind is how long would you tumble for 2 days or or 1 hour.... i still think it would break down the powder and change accuracy .. im not saying it will blow up in your face.. but do what you want....... wont hurt me none...
Bonjour skelly607, do you resize the bullets? I now use ALOX- 1st lube cut 50/50 with spirits and size when dry. 2nd lube, alox at 70/30 spirit, dry overnight and load.
Check out Recluse's post on the castboolits forum regarding the stickiness and making tumbling mess-free. He makes a mix of 45% Alox, 10% mineral spirits and 45% melted down Johnson's Paste Wax. The paste wax makes the alox dry much harder so that it doesn't need to be tumbled off or get all over your seating die.
If any one would like links to where tumbling loaded ammo is safe please email me (youtube will not let me post the links) pierced_wit_tatts (at) yahoo. com
@chills1994 You do not tumble the bullets in corn starch or mica but rather you sprinkle the corn starch or mica on the bullet. I tumble my bullets in old media with a some solvent to remove the Alox from the bullet.
A question I am looking to the the Micro Band 45ACP SWC... they recommend Liquid alox tumble method... but I also want to swage/size the bullet, would that thin film stay on there after swaging or would i have to go ahead and retumble lube all my cast bullets all over again
@tdblues "If" using a Lee sizer you lightly coat the bullets to help the bullet thru the sizer,after wards you will have to recoat/tumble the bullets since sizing removes/moves some metal from the bullet.
It's like this. When you buy walnut media or whatever you use, and you put it in your tumbler the first time, there isn't much dust, right? But the more you use it, the more super fine brown dust is everywhere. That's because over time the grains of walnut get broken down into finer and finer pieces. Same thing happens to gun powder.
Tumbling a round for 15 minutes might not have a super noticeable effect but it's still way too risky.
it does NOT, EVERY major ammo factory tumbles their loaded rounds, to get the lube off the cases....it DOES NOT alter burn rate and DOES NOT present any danger
yes you can tumble live rounds. In "Competion Reloading with Brian Enos" Brian shows how to setup an XL650. In the video he lubes all of his cases even if he is using carbide dies. He then tumbles the loaded rounds for 15-20 minutes once finished to remove the lube.
Yes, tumbling live ammo,it does sound scary I do admit but you can,,,its even mentioned in some reloading manuals.Ive done 1000s of rounds with no problems.
Pretty good video, quality is better then most you see on youtube. Personally I am not a fan of Alox and avoid it, finding the Lyman lubricator/resizer press and a hard lube works best for my applications.
Does this stop leading of the barrel?
penfold357007 1 year ago
@penfold357007 The best way to reduce leading is proper bullet fit. If you are leading try +.001 or .002 of the bullet when sizing. If I can get away with it I try to shoot as casted/dropped.
skelly607 1 year ago
@penfold357007 The best way to reduce leading is proper bullet fit. If you are leading try +.001 or .002 of the bullet when sizing. If I can get away with it I try to shoot as casted/dropped. Lubes will work also to prevent leading but as I stated proper bullet fit works best. Slug your barrel to see what your true bore size is and then go from there.
skelly607 1 year ago
nice
BigAgitator 1 year ago
good video i do that method when im resizing my bullets i use the container my resizing die came in i just do what he did tumble it back and fourth in each container then when they are resized to the correct diameter i use wd40 to clean them with a cotton rag that works very good his method is really really good but expensive
letstalkdirty1 1 year ago
You say the the Alox never gets really dry - don't you mind that powder particles could stick at the bottom of the bullet?
ferngucker 1 year ago
@ferngucker And the problem with that would be?
skelly607 1 year ago
Tumbling loaded rounds can change power consistancy and thus change pressures inside the bullet casing. From my learing it's not a safe or recommended practice.
paininthe10 1 year ago
@paininthe10 No it does NOT change the burn rate. Show me one shred of proof that it does.(Not just because my uncle bob says so or something from a powder company that their lawyers tells them to say) Did you know that ammo companies tumble their ammo before its shipped out for a final cleaning? Google it!
skelly607 1 year ago
you really shouldnt run the finished bullets in the vibrating case cleaner it breakes down the gun powder changing its chemistry just a thoutght........ lots of places ive seen has advised against this
NetRanger101 1 year ago
@NetRanger101 No it does NOT change the burn rate. Show me one shred of proof that it does.(Not just because my uncle bob says so or something from a powder company that their lawyers tells them to say) Did you know that ammo companies tumble their ammo before its shipped out for a final cleaning? Google it!
skelly607 1 year ago
@skelly607 i googled it i found pro's and con's for tumbling . it is true ammo companies tumble. one thing to keep in mind is how long would you tumble for 2 days or or 1 hour.... i still think it would break down the powder and change accuracy .. im not saying it will blow up in your face.. but do what you want....... wont hurt me none...
NetRanger101 1 year ago
@skelly607 it brakes down the powder in the case it will take a rifle powder and make it into
a pistol powder not a good thing
camerl2009 1 year ago
@camerl2009 No it does not . Please Google it. If you want to think that then go ahead.
skelly607 1 year ago
@skelly607 yes it dose take a loaded round and tumble it for a day it will brake down the powder
i had a few do this to me goo thing it was a lite pistol load but it was to much recoil for that load
camerl2009 1 year ago
@camerl2009 Google it.
skelly607 1 year ago
Bonjour skelly607, do you resize the bullets? I now use ALOX- 1st lube cut 50/50 with spirits and size when dry. 2nd lube, alox at 70/30 spirit, dry overnight and load.
fusil56300 1 year ago
@fusil56300 If I can get away with it I shoot as casted,,,If that doesnt work then I do resize.
skelly607 1 year ago
great vid I do the same thing just a bit different. never thought of removing the wax after loading the bullet.
goddamesmith64 1 year ago
Check out Recluse's post on the castboolits forum regarding the stickiness and making tumbling mess-free. He makes a mix of 45% Alox, 10% mineral spirits and 45% melted down Johnson's Paste Wax. The paste wax makes the alox dry much harder so that it doesn't need to be tumbled off or get all over your seating die.
CiDirkona 1 year ago
Bonjour, I normally pan lube....BUT I have just found out that Alox is sooooo much easier. Great vid.
fusil56300 1 year ago
If any one would like links to where tumbling loaded ammo is safe please email me (youtube will not let me post the links) pierced_wit_tatts (at) yahoo. com
skelly607 2 years ago
@chills1994 You do not tumble the bullets in corn starch or mica but rather you sprinkle the corn starch or mica on the bullet. I tumble my bullets in old media with a some solvent to remove the Alox from the bullet.
skelly607 2 years ago
A question I am looking to the the Micro Band 45ACP SWC... they recommend Liquid alox tumble method... but I also want to swage/size the bullet, would that thin film stay on there after swaging or would i have to go ahead and retumble lube all my cast bullets all over again
tdblues 2 years ago
@tdblues "If" using a Lee sizer you lightly coat the bullets to help the bullet thru the sizer,after wards you will have to recoat/tumble the bullets since sizing removes/moves some metal from the bullet.
skelly607 2 years ago
@GIDAN2987
It's like this. When you buy walnut media or whatever you use, and you put it in your tumbler the first time, there isn't much dust, right? But the more you use it, the more super fine brown dust is everywhere. That's because over time the grains of walnut get broken down into finer and finer pieces. Same thing happens to gun powder.
Tumbling a round for 15 minutes might not have a super noticeable effect but it's still way too risky.
mbs357 2 years ago
Do NOT tumble Loaded ammo!!!
It changes the burn rate of the powder ,,and makes it very dangerous
1bad65truck 2 years ago
it does NOT, EVERY major ammo factory tumbles their loaded rounds, to get the lube off the cases....it DOES NOT alter burn rate and DOES NOT present any danger
AriM 2 years ago
explain to me why ammo factorys need to resize Brand new brass???
1bad65truck 2 years ago
@1bad65truck Please show facts where tumbling live ammo is dangerous.I'll show you facts where tumbling live ammo is perfectly safe.
skelly607 2 years ago
Give me a few days to gather data and I will be happy to show proof
1bad65truck 2 years ago
@1bad65truck Only proof you showed was from a powder company that the companies lawyer told them what to say.
skelly607 1 year ago
I use a rag to wipe excess alox off. I don't tumble the live rounds, even though it is safe.
IllinoisCoyoteHunter 3 years ago
great video thank you!
yes you can tumble live rounds. In "Competion Reloading with Brian Enos" Brian shows how to setup an XL650. In the video he lubes all of his cases even if he is using carbide dies. He then tumbles the loaded rounds for 15-20 minutes once finished to remove the lube.
mr357 3 years ago
Are you tumbling loaded ammo? I thought that was a no no. Why not take a tool to remove it?
lovshooting 3 years ago
Yes, tumbling live ammo,it does sound scary I do admit but you can,,,its even mentioned in some reloading manuals.Ive done 1000s of rounds with no problems.
What tool would you use to remove the Lee alox?
skelly607 3 years ago
Pretty good video, quality is better then most you see on youtube. Personally I am not a fan of Alox and avoid it, finding the Lyman lubricator/resizer press and a hard lube works best for my applications.
Thanks
libertyhound 3 years ago