Once again, "doctor" Lisa has got it WRONGGGG!!!!! It amazes me how someone so uninformed and close minded is allowed to practice medicine! What has the world come to? First she is completely wrong with the issue of infant male circumcision, and now with the natural homebirths! Crazy bitch needs to stop practicing medicine, I think we can all agree on that!!!
Homebirths are just as safe, NOT more safe, than a hospital birth for a woman with a LOW risk pregnancy. Whether you birth at home or at the hospital, no one cares, you're not going to receive a medal for either one. Also there are shitty midwives like there are shitty OBs, midwives are not perfect and neither are OBs. I can list multiple times where a midwife has refused medical intervention which resulted in infant death, yet no one talks about that?
@kevintimmins here's a great example, google the article written by the Dail Mail titled: "Is an obsession with natural birth putting mothers and babies in danger". What about the midwife who laughed and made belittling remarks to a woman who delivered a stillborn in September of last year? No medical professional, including midwives, is perfect. Not all midwives are bad, but not all OBs/Family Practitioners are either and it's incredibly uneducated to claim that they are.
Until about 1940, the majority of American women gave birth at home, with much better infant mortality rates. The fact that 98% of babies in America are born in hospitals and we have the second worst infant mortality rate in the developed world should be a clear indication to anyone with a brain that our system isn't working. The system exists for the purpose of making money, not healthy babies.
I had water homebirth with 2 midwives assisted. It was AMAZING! I'd do it all over again. A lot of times that shit goes wrong is because of unnecessary interventions.
I went to an OB at first, and he told me that my husband is a tall guy, so the baby might be too big; I should be expecting C-section *rolls eyes*
People talk a lot about complications trying to frighten women, but a midwife will not recommend a home birth if you are high risk. I for one, would not deliver at home because I don't deal well with pain (I'm a fainter). The vasovagal reflex would make my bp plummet and the thought frightens me. There is also hypnosis which helps the women prepare herself to not focus on any pain. It's amazing what the human body is capable of.
It's a frightening day when medical doctors don't care about, and aren't aware of the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE regarding their practices. Home birth has been proven safe time and time again. Gah...
Hey I didn't know you watch this show too :-) . That chick doctor gots problems you should watch her on the breast feeding video some where in the line up.
This is why I don't watch that show--that woman PISSES ME OFF! I've had 3 healthy, all-natural births outside a hospital with no major problems. With the statistics in this country, if I'd had them all in a hospital, I would most likely have ended up with at least one c-section.
Wow she is not about empowering women at all. if she can't properly understand the care of midwives. she needs to come to Canada and see how its done.
The idea that birth is in the hands of obstetricians is garbage. The way that women give birth nowadays is why? Because it's more convenient for the DOCTOR. Who gives a fuck about the doctor? If I'm giving birth, I am going to give birth in the position that I want to. Doctors think they know everything, but that's just not true. Look at episiotomies - given by doctors to "help" with tearing, but they actually cause MORE damage than natural tearing.
Dr. Lisa is why I hate doctors. Yes, you went to medical school, I get it. But just because you have an MD doesn't mean that your opinion is the be all, end all. Some of the things that she said about water birth were completely incorrect and terribly misleading. I am going to have my children in a birthing center, I want to be able to give birth when my body is ready and not have to be induced. I want to give birth in the position I want, how I want and I don't want any unnecessary procedures.
Of course the OBGYN doesn't want you to have a home birth with a midwife, what would she be able to bill your insurance for? It's like a BMW dealer explaining why their cars are better for you then all the other cars. It's about money. Yes she really does believe it's better because her bread and butter is made selling that idea to women.
The irony of an American doctor lecturing women about how dangerous home birthing is is staggering. There is NOTHING dangerous about home birth, when you have a low risk pregnancy. This lady is talking about fistulas? Who does she think assists in these home births, the next door neighbour? Midwives aren't ignorant, they are trained professionals and should be treated as such.
Failure to progress is often "failure of doctor to wait patiently" Fuck that stupid bitch, she def does care about her section rate. She's a liar. I love Ricki and intend to birth my next baby at home. Away from fuck up doctors who don't know what REAL birth is supposed to be like
Failure to progress is often "failure of doctor to wait patiently" Fuck that stupid bitch, she def does care about her section rate. She's a liar. I love Ricki and intend to birth my next baby at home. Away from fuck up doctors who don't know what REAL birth is supposed to be like
Failure to progress is often "failure of doctor to wait patiently" Fuck that stupid bitch, she def does care about her section rate. She's a liar. I love Ricki and intend to birth my next baby at home. Away from fuck up doctors who don't know what REAL birth is supposed to be like
Failure to progress is often "failure of doctor to wait patiently" Fuck that stupid bitch, she def does care about her section rate. She's a liar. I love Ricki and intend to birth my next baby at home. Away from fuck up doctors who don't know what REAL birth is supposed to be like
It seems I've heard so many horror stories from women who have had their babies in the hospital, but I haven't heard one bad story from women who have had midwives.
she acts like midwives are not trained.. they are more experts than she is.. they come prepared for all the emergencies! So annoying to listen to people so ignorant
"Take risks with your baby if you want" - OK, if I want to take risks with my baby, I will got to the hospital where they won't let me drink water or eat food necessary for energy in labor, where they'll keep me confined to bed, strap me to all kinds of unnecessary equipment, and then freak out when their equipment shows signs of a NORMAL labor, give me RISKY chemicals (like epidurals and pitocin, which btw, the fda has never approved to induction) then tell me I need CUT OPEN...
@reject37records....thereby increasing ALL risks to mom and baby, then take the baby away from the mother and father immediately, to poke and prod and scrub off the immune protection of the vernix, then put it in a warmer because mom is still having surgery (instead of allowing moms body heat help baby regulate temp) and by doing all of this, greatly decrease the rate of successful breastfeeding and attachment with mom and baby, and increase health risks to baby,,,hmm, sounds totally not risky.
it depends on what hospital you go to. there are hospitals where midwives deliver the babies and the doctors come in only if there is something wrong.
I am so sick of reading comments that say "hospitals are horrible places to give birth at", in my opinion, all births are beautiful, whether they are water births, home births, c-sections or done with epidurals. Home births work for some, and not for others. For me, the hospital provides a security blanket, one I would not have a home. Also, having had a high risk pregnancy, I would've never risked a home birth. To each her own.
interventions or treatments. You have a right to know your body and participate in your health care decisions but I have seen hundreds of emergencies (and only worked on L&D for 4 years) and would never recommend risking it at home. Pitocin is a high risk drug but any nurse who has seen even 20 births knows that and will be extremely cautious with it- no matter what the Dr. or resident says about "increasing pit" or bed space or time of labor... We will take care of your baby and you first.
@Merke3 Im sure u have seen hundreds of emergencies cuz all those women are at the hospital and not at home.. just proves hospitals are the cause of all those emergencies
As an RN in maternity care I respect and support women who want to go natural and have known a few who have done home births, but I also see women putting pressure on themselves not to have an epidural in pain for days and putting their babies at risk of infection (after prolonged rupture of membranes) and distress by refusing interventions. Please trust your health care providers to help you make decisions and guide you... if you feel pressured ask more questions. We'll tell you why we suggest
Maybe we shouldn't force fertility on those who are struggling but instead diagnose and fix the underlying problem, thus reducing high-risk pregnancies, decreasing the number of preterm deliveries and infant mortality in the U.S. It is not some business of greed to be in maternity care. It is the lowest paid specialty in the medical field because of malpractice insurance!! NO ONE does it for the money. Ricki's video is SO misleading and insulting.
The infant mortality rate in the U.S. is probably strongly correlated to the preterm delivery rate in the U.S. which, has anyone ever thought, may be related to in-vitro or other artificial fertility treatments that we in the U.S. 'play God' with? In that, by giving fertility drugs or making someone pregnant- FORCING pregnancy on a body that was obviously not getting pregnant in the normal fashion, maybe we are risking lives by placing them in an environment which is unable to carry to term...
Oh wow, Dr. Lisa...you give me a hospital room with draperies...so that made the epidural which triggered the pitocin which triggered the fetal distress which triggered the emergency c section worthwhile!
Wow Dr Lisa states she has seen thousands and thousands of births but how many of those were normal? And how many were flat on their back with epidurals? Choice and education is what is key.
I dislike Dr. Lisa a little bit after this... She is coming off so angry and defensive. None of her points even make sense and when pointed out she gets angrier and louder. Yeah, interrupting someone isn't going to make your point the correct one...
Hospitals are full of diseases and viruses? so when you get cancer or your baby gets an illness. do not take them to the hospital. or if you are in labor and the baby is not turning over or something else going wrong with the baby or yourself. do not go to the hospital.
My first child was born December 31st. On his due date at the hospital. i was there for 2 days before that. My whole stay was a week. I didn't get out because it was a holiday and a weekend. No one rushed my birth. They checked on me and let me rest. My second was born two days before her due date. Jan 27th. She was induced because she was spiking my blood pressure. He used mineral oil and I didn't tear. I never had a bad experience with either one.I wanted a midwife with my second but didn't.
My OB did not give her all to my delivery. She actually scheduled me for an induction on my due date because it was 2 days before Christmas. Luckily, my daughter wanted to be born on her terms and I started laboring naturally 5 hours before my scheduled induction. The only time I ever saw my OB during my labor/delivery was the last 10 minutes before my daughter was born.
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home birth? and when there's a problem you'll be screaming at your hubby to get yer ass to a hospital but it'll be too late and you'll have a tard baby who you'll ignore coz you'll be out having lezbo couger fests with other hippy bitches while dad is at home with Corky
Uh, more people are choosing home birth because....THEY DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AND CAN'T AFFORD IT. The bias of this "panel" not even mentioning it is absurd beyond credibility of any kind.
@fakebeliever it cost me $200 to deliver at a hospital through my HMO. it would have cost at least $3000 to deliver at home with an experienced midwife; even more if i wanted a doula as well. i wish i could have afforded it.
Home births are the way forward, people using death against mums are too scared to accept human bodies can do amazing things with the help of medicine!!!!
i regret birthing in a hospital. I was treated like shit and one of the nurses pushed my leg all the way back when i told her repeatedly to not do it because it hurts my hip and i want to keep my legs rested on the bed. bitch didnt listen and my pubic sumphysis separated by 5 cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my ligaments tore and i lost control of my bowels and urine and my bladder collapsed! I am looking into suing!!! give birth at home! where u can guide your own body!!!
Squat like humans are meant to! It will cut down on fistulas and the dreaded episiotomies! Laying on your back tied to a mechanical device (transhumanist much?) is not function it causes injury! And why are physicians so arrogant? lol My brother is a dr. and pulls the same shit dr. Lisa is. Anyway, point is up the home births up the midwives!
How on earth did we survive for thousands of years before technology and medical intevrvention got a strangle hold on our births! I am trully amazed by some of the ignorance displayed in these responses.
@rania3830 The majority of childbirth related deaths in prior to the early 1900's were due to infection or hemorrhage. When people started understanding germs and nutrition, and better health overall, the death rates in childbirth reduced corresponding to other health measures. The move from home to hospital in the early 1900`s was less a factor in improving maternity rates than improved living conditions overall.
my friend that's not the only reason mother/child death rates went down. a lot of women and babies were dying during labor because doctors didn't have the technology and knowledge to monitor mother-baby condition. a lot of women had problems with the babies not turning over or the umbilical cord wrapped around their neck. or mother's blood pressure spiking up which results into needing a c-section.
not only that women didn't have proper pre-natal care like they do now.
And, obviously, Dr. Lisa didn't WATCH the movie...Abby Epstein's midwife is the one who said they needed to go to the hospital and get a C-section. She knew the signs and knew she couldn't do it at home. The baby was FINE. No dead baby, no dead mommy, because the midwife knew that it was risky. "Take risks with your baby if you want," Dr. Lisa says....um...what is the risk when you've got a professional who knows what she's doing???
i think it's safer to have a hospital birth. when my mom has me back in 88 she was 12 hours in labor and the doctors were waiting for me to turn over. my mom's blood pressure winded up shooting up and they had to do a emergency C-section. had she not been in the hospital i don't even i would be alive today or if my mom would be.
Dr. Lisa won't even listen and hear them out...yeah, she's just like all the other lawsuit-terrified docs that are killing America's babies and mommies at rates that look like an epidemic compared to countries with far less technology and far fewer interventions. She knows everything and there is nothing left she can learn.
i actually dont care about births or how women choose to give births in general. i just came to the vdieo after reading a bunch of negative reviews on this lisa dr. and ive seen the show before, she seems like a bitch and now i see why alot of people and past patients both men and women hate her. she is condensending bitch
having a baby in a hospital or at home is a risk either way. but women should have the right to choose how and where they want to have their babies and this right is being struggled for. i currently live in georgia and it isn't exactly legal or illegal to have babies at home. i think everyone should see ricki lakes documentary "The Business of Being Born"...
@XxLuciferousxX Hmm Dr Lisa is - to my judgement that is-actually a quite crappy-looking woman, her vacubulary is indeed very low and she is prattling unscientific nonsense-Hmmmm- I consider this the best evidence THAT SHE IS A doctor.
Personally I plan to have my kids in a hospital, but I have health factors that make me high risk. It is a womans decision on where she and her partner as well, feel more comfortable having a baby.
Midwife's are just as capable as OB's to deliver a baby, they tend to know quite a bit for simple complications. There will always be a risk of complication no matter if you have your baby at home, or in the hospital. There is always a risk.
Regardless of peoples views, birth is a beautiful moment.
..."If the purpose for the charges are for incidentals, if there are no incidentals, do you give the money back?" Hospitals are rigid. Most physicians are full of themselves and deem their knowledge to be higher than anything else. Aside from high risk pregnancies, I think more women should consider giving birth at home.
I am not really sure I want to have a baby. But I have been very curious about birthing at home for a while and think it would probably be something I'd want to look into more. I think that doctors who push so hard for hospital deliveries are doing so for the money and not because they genuinely care. If they cared so much, they would not charge of the arse for something a midwife does at a fraction of the price. It's like the Cosby show episode in which a dinner guest asks Dr. Huxtable:
also, women are ROUTINELY given drugs while in labor with little or no explanation of the risks and/or why they are being given.
how many women are even told that an epidural could cause chronic back pain (lasting for months or even longer AFTER delivery), bladder control problems, or even paralysis? or that it could and often does SLOW labor, causing a necessity for pitocin or other labor enhancing drugs?
2028 pregnancies resulting in 2043 infants (15 sets of twins). 13 infant deaths=0.6% infant mortality between 1970 and 2000. in 2000, the infant death rate was just under 0.7% for the whole country and has declined to about 0.6% as of 2010 (according to the CDC website). so much for giving birth at home with a midwife being SOOOO unsafe.
(although i question whether or not the country-wide stats include all the "high risk" women and babies....)
here are some statistics on home birth. they are from "the farm" which is a rural community in Tennessee. these statistics include all women who were under their care from 1970 to 2000. they do not exclude women who were "high risk" like many hospital stats do for marketing reasons.
2028 pregnancies, 95.1% of births completed at home or in their midwife-run birth center, 1.4% of births ended in c-section, of 108 attempted VBAC 106 were successful, 1.8% of mothers hemorrhaged post-partum,
Doctors are trained in diagnosing and treating disease. They are not properly trained in prevention. Just go to any local collage and ask for the class requirements to become an MD. That is the very foundation of why a doctor is a bad choice when dealing with an issue that is not an illness such as pregnancy.
@DrSandmann Ohhh you poor thing you had to read a few text books. I bet unlike a midwife who you alledge has "limited knowledge and experience" you've never actually sat with birthing women? Are you seriously implying you are a god? Midwives/nurses just spend all there time cleaning up your mess. Don't pretend this isn't about ego and trying to make your almost worthless professional feel warranted. Only about 20% if not less of women should require an obgyn the mortality rate before was 10%FYI
Dr. Lisa needs to calm down. Her attitude is the VERY reason that people choose to stay OUT of a hospital during labor and delivery. Don't try those 'scare tactics' with me. Birth is a natural process that has been happening since the dawn of time. It doesn't HAVE to be scary and rushed.
Before modern medicine, that “natural process” you call childbirth used to be the #1 killer of women. That’s a fact.
And mind you, midwives don’t refuse to use modern medicine to help birthing occur. They use medications too. The difference, however, is that their training and knowledge-base is less than that of an OB. They are handling pregnancies and childbirth while armed with less ability to troubleshoot and manage problems.
Actually that is not a fact. You should read more about the history of childbirth. For one records were rarely kept, thus making your claim impossible to substantiate; secondly pre-natal testing, such as the ultra sound, is what prevents most problems, not giving birth in a hospital. Having a baby in a hospital actually places higher risks.
Reference: History of American Childbirth (a scholarly source)
The Dr lady on here is why I don't like doctors!! SO RUDE!!!! Why would you want your baby near that. I bet she is the reason some women have problems because she is a stressor!
Hence, it simply has to be the hospitals and OBGYNs causing this increased mortality, right? I mean, it couldn’t possibly be the fact that Americans have less access to routine general health care and prenatal health care than Europeans do...right? Or the fact that half the women in this country having babies are overweight or obese, which severely increases pregnancy risk. It can’t be that! It’s gotta be those damn American OBGYNs killing all these extra babies.
@DrSandmann NO, i didn't say it's hospitals causing this or OBGYNs. I would never say that because those people actually save lives. But what Dr.Lisa is saying is the reason babies actually die is because of lack of hospital intervention and statistically, if we look at home births in Europe and Hospital births in US, then we see that that is in fact NOT what causing infant mortality. You can have your baby at home and you would be fine most of the time without hospital intervention.
Do you not understand the difference between correlation and causation? Home births don’t have a high rate of safety because home birth is an inherently safer way to go. They have a high rate of safety because only the healthiest pregnancies are suitable for delivery at home, whereas OBGYNs delivering babies in hospitals are dealing not only with healthy pregnancies, but also the complicated ones. Home births involve almost exclusively healthy pregnancies. Do you understand this?
@DrSandmann Yes, I do understand the difference between correlation and causation and no I did not say, for the last time, that I thought hospitals cause complications. I did not say home births are safer but I'm also not saying that ALL people should deliver in hospitals. Once again, in Europe most people deliver in hospitals and have a lower infant mortality rate than we do, and no that does not mean hospitals are at fault, but it also does not prove to me that hospitals do much good anyway.
Once again, you’re demonstrating your lack of information. European women are healthier than American women are. American women are a bunch of fat, diabetic, hypertensive slobs who are having babies at older and older ages. Do you think that maybe THAT has something to the higher mortality rate here?
Or the fact that European women tend to have better access to prenatal care than women here do. Do you think THAT might have something to do with it as well?
@DrSandmann OK, I know that American women are fat and all that. Knew that. Once again, did not say that was not the case of infant mortality. But Why do European women have better access to prenatal care?? Why do they choose to have home births?? Is it because they have better access to prenatal care therefore are better informed?? There you go, you lead yourself there.
I don’t give a shit why European women choose to deliver at home. And I don’t care why they have better access to prenatal care (although universal health care might have something to do with it, ya think?).
What I DO care about is the fact that European women are on the average getting better prenatal care and are healthier than American women when they squeeze their babies out, and THAT is the reason they have a lower rate of infant mortality. Beyond that, the discussion is moot
The average American woman is somewhat unhealthy and has less access to prenatal care. That makes her pregnancy more prone to becoming higher risk, and thus she is less of a candidate for a home birth. OB’s (who are the sole experts on pregnancy and parturition) generally don’t it’s a good idea for American women to deliver at home.
As for why European women have more prenatal care, it’s because even routine and preventative health care is outrageously costly here in America.
There are many conditions that require hospital intervention.
Your problem is that you (like Rikki Lake) are 99.9999% ignorant of all of the problems that can occur before, during, and immediately after birth that require, REQUIRE a hospital staff to manage. Most of these problems are directly related to the mother’s health. (For example, diabetic mothers are more likely to have baby with IRDS, which requires treatment in NICU).
In Europe, you have fewer diabetic mothers. Get it?
@DrSandmann Uhh..I knew that! I'm talking about HEALTHY women not women who have other conditions. Of course, if you're sick, you shouldn't be taking the risk!
I have news for you. Even healthy women can have complications that require immediate medical intervention -- the kind of intervention that midwives are not trained to give.
No! Really? I had no idea!! I thought hospitals saved 100% of all babies. Hell, 110%, even!
Look, dumbass. And try to get this through your thick skull: when complications arise, you are going to fare much better with an OBGYN in a hospital than you are with some marginally-trained midwife who has few tools at her disposal.
@rania3830 I have watched a documentary on this. I think it was either called "The business of being born" or something else..It was a long time ago so I wouldn't remember now.
@sarahcyn that dr has to be defensive because its her job to make it look like hospital are the safest place
, but after watching some documentaries on home birth it is sad to see that we as women are just numbers and they just have to make us have our baby in the quickest way possible. as women we have that right to choose and no one can take that away from us.
I have been studying and researching the hell out of certain topics for the past some years now, and I can clearly tell when someone is vesting ego into a conversation, and defensive, as well, lying. This black woman is all of the above. She's wrong. However, in her defense, she may actually believe this shit she's spewing. Because when you have trained in a system for so long, you become brainwashed into that system of thought. In either case, she's dead wrong in so many ways.
What about exposure to sick people, and MRSA to a newborn in a hospital?
What about The drugs they use affecting the baby without the mother being properly informed that her CHOICE to get an epidural also affects the infant and can cause a lot of harm.
The USA is one of the most terrible places to give birth.
@DrSandmann yea, because when you're in hard labor, you don't have hormones flooding you and you have a completely sound mind to read a 3 page consent form begining to end and understand every medical term without anyone explaining any of it to you. give me a break. they put a ton of forms in front of you and tell you to sign them, nothing about it is "informed".
What about exposure to sick people, and MRSA to a newborn in a hospital?
What about The drugs they use affecting the baby without the mother being properly informed that her CHOICE to get an epidural also effects the infant and can cause a lot of harm.
The USA is one of the most terrible places to give birth.
"We would rather not keep track of the [C-section] numbers . . . " I'll bet. As a midwife I get to keep track of ALL my numbers. I enjoy being accountable and recommend that others get to that same place. There is a real lack of accountability within many hospital settings (I've worked L&D). Consider my grandson who was born with severe apnea after OB staff waited for more than 2.5 hrs to do a needed c-sec. His chart "disappeared" days after. He has severe neuro impairment now. NOT OK!
Look at the rates of infant mortality with hospitals verses home birth. Love the way the doc says 'dead baby and dead mommy'...the usual scare tactics. Once you are in the doors of the hospital you are in their domain and they have to do everything they have available to them for you....whether you need it or not. OBs are OVER cautious due to the legal system.
Come back and make that comment when an emergency C-section needs to be performed, or when the baby is apneic.
Or are you going to tell me that midwives are experts when it comes to resuscitating babies as well? That would be pretty f-ing miraculous, considering the fact that they have basically a nursing degree and a two year nurse-midwife program under their belt. Even OBGYN’s, who have MD’s and 4 years of residency, don’t claim to be experts at resuscitating babies.
@DrSandmann The facts speak for themselves: Infant mortality and maternal mortality rates are higher in the US than they are in other developed countries where midwives attend 70-80% of the births. If hospital deliveries are so safe in the US, why are there more dead babies and more dead mommies among the hospitals than there are among the homebirths?
@dw9559 I think there is more to those statistics than just bad hospitals. The netherlands also has a high infant mortality rate, but most births are overseen by midwives. I think it is too easy to easy to just look at the statistics and directly blame the health care providers. There may be other factors at play. :)
women's bodies were made to give birth. hospitals/ob/gyns are taught to believe that birth is a dangerous medical procedure. it isn't. pregnancy isn't an illness and although there can occasionally be complications in delivery, many are caused by the interventions that are done routinely in hospitals. dr's look at birth as a pathological (i.e. abnormal, dangerous) process while midwives and home birth advocates look at it as a natural, normal event. read about The Farm and Ina May Gaskin.
Wrong. Childbirth, when it goes wrong, can (and does) kill women. It used to be THE single biggest cause of women dying, prior to modern medicine. So yeah, pregnancy and childbirth can become very dangerous, lickety split. That’s why you’d have to be a fucking moron to leave your care in the hands of the limited knowledge and training of a midwife.
i used to love dr lisa but after this and what she said about circumcision, i now know, she's an idiot. I would bet she's never even seen a home birth so she doesn't know what she's talking about.
she is right; there are risks associated with having a birth at home because things can go wrong and it is better to be in an environment where a ceserean can be done right away rather than having to wait to get to the hospital, further putting the baby and mother at risk.
That being said, If docs were more supportive of homebirth then it would be even more safe.
Midwives in hospital want to go ahead and set women up with anesthesiologists just because they are overweight but have had vaginal and normal deliveries in the past. A home birth midwife does a better job at nurturing a woman's soul or spirit, than any doctor or hospital midwife.
treated me so badly, I chose a home birth. My midwife not only took care of my GBS, but she made me feel beautiful and amazing. I do not agree with the idea that hospital birth is the only way to have a baby. Please watch Ricki's documentary: "The Business of Being Born" becasue this OBGYN is way out of control when it comes to homebirth and it's safety. She keeps interuppting.
Dr. Masterson, I want to explain my situation about home birth. In 1998 I gave birth to a 6lb 4oz girl, who I was accused of doing all kinds of things by the nurses. I was bullied by the nurses to have pain meds, which I accepted after hours of being talked into it. My second child was born under the influence of an epidural, who I can tell you that I do not have the bonding with due to the fact that I was under the influence of drugs for. My third child came 9 years later, and because the
I am an obese woman, who looked for a midwife early in my pregnancy. I chose a hospital midwife who immediately at twelve weeks gestation wanted to do a glucose screening and had me meet with a anesthesiologist, even though I had two perfectly healthy previous vaginal deliveries. I found a midwife in my area, Katherine Bramhall, who not only tended to me after being diagnosed by a hospital with GBS, but cured me, and gave me a vaginal delivery at home in a Auquadoula. My baby is fine.
I am proud to say I am having a home birth and i am 30 weeks pregnant :) I think people like her to stand up and speak the truth. I'm sick of doctors trying to scare the crap out of me.
someone like me, wants both equally. Home environment, but the safety of doctors. Here where i live, there use to be a place where you had a much more home feeling than the regular hospital feeling. Midwifes and professional doctors worked together. Im so sad that it is not there anymore. I really wish there were more like it though..
I have have given birth twice in a hospital and guess where I am having my 3rd? AT HOME!! I went into my 2nd birth with a birth plan and of course it all went out the window they day I had to be induced. Thankfully I gave birth without meds while being pumped full of pitocin but I refuse to give birth in the hospital. HB MW are more intoned to the female body and they understand birth is normal. Never again will I give birth in a hospital
Doctors have no idea about homebirths - talking with them about it is like talking to a fish who thinks they know all about trees. It's great they know how to do C-sections and various interventions WHEN NECESSARY. I had a low risk preg and didn't want any interventions or fear based hopsital atmosphere, so I chose a homebirth with an amazing midwife. It was perfect. I saved the insurance co. at least $20K and they still wouldn't cover homebirth. Health care reform anyone?
the doctor is just defensive becuase she spent all that time going through medical school to do what she does - for the money. Midwives have nearly all the same training and they do what they do because they are passionate about birth. Hospitals follow protocol and procedures dictated by the medical laws of their practice. i know this because I WORK at a hospital. If you are passionate about home birth- DO IT. Do not think a doctor is always right.
That doctor seems like an absolute idiot. The rates of intervention in the US are ridiculous. Here in the UK midwives deliver the majority of babies, unless there is a complication that requires intervention - then a doctor is involved. you can also get a homebirth on the NHS, with NHS midwives in attendance so you KNOW you have properly qualified people there. And I don't get the big deal they're making about pitocin - it's not used in the UK AT ALL!
I understand both sides. If I would have had a home birth, both my daughter and I would be dead. However, I know of others who have had a wonderful experience. I think that Dr. Lisa is very emotionally charged and this is not typical of a physician, so I am guessing that what she has seen is horrific. Perhaps, Germany does it the best way.
If you have never given birth at home or ever witnessed a home birth- shut the f up- you do not know what you are talking about.
I got messed up in the hospital and took 1.5 yr to recover, 2nd baby born at home w/out complications (10.5lbs and a 2hr labor!) Third baby to be born at home, surrounded by perfect care, knowledge and love.
1 in 4 woman get a c-section... and its not even needed. i think these doctors just made themselves sound retarded, and i liked the show. but now im liek this is stupidd... so soooooo stupid. personally, i dont want a fucking doctor pulling my baby out from my vag when it isnt needed... AND i dont want a doctor pushing drugs on me and i dont want a doctor trying to induce me because i'm past the "due date". like seriously...
i seriously despise dr lisa. she said on another show she thinks women should turn the responsibility of birthing their baby completely over to their doctor! whisky tango foxtrot!!!! idiot!
Dr. Lisa needs to wake up to what's really going on in our hospitals. Women and babies are dying at unprecedented rates not because of the LACK of medicines, drugs, or surgeries, but BECAUSE of them! OBGYNs don't know the first thing about what a natural birth looks like - they know how to "treat" labor and delivery and when their little formula of induction, pitocin and monitoring doesn't go their way, they do a c-section and then say "Look, we just saved that baby and mother's lives."
ffor conservatives it's evolution and global warming. for liberals it's medicine and GMO's....it's all anti-science, quaint at best, dangerous at worst
Pitocin is just ONE treatment for hemorrhage. Usually uterine atony (i.e. a uterus that doesn't contract after birth).
But the woman in the audience is saying that the midwife has pitocin as if that's the cure-all for hemorrhage. She's dead wrong.
Sometimes surgery is needed emergently in order to stop hemorrhage. Sometimes blood transfusions are needed emergently. And if you're at home, and the only person you have next to you is a stinking midwife, then you're SOL.
@DrSandmann Midwives are typically licensed to administer a variety of anti-hemorrhagics, start IVs, etc. You know, the nice lady in the audience is not a midwife; perhaps you should actually talk with a "stinking midwife" before you write comments such as this.
Midwives do it all in Australia too. I should know. I am one.
LadyLeesa 1 day ago
Once again, "doctor" Lisa has got it WRONGGGG!!!!! It amazes me how someone so uninformed and close minded is allowed to practice medicine! What has the world come to? First she is completely wrong with the issue of infant male circumcision, and now with the natural homebirths! Crazy bitch needs to stop practicing medicine, I think we can all agree on that!!!
ShmeePadge 2 days ago
Homebirths are just as safe, NOT more safe, than a hospital birth for a woman with a LOW risk pregnancy. Whether you birth at home or at the hospital, no one cares, you're not going to receive a medal for either one. Also there are shitty midwives like there are shitty OBs, midwives are not perfect and neither are OBs. I can list multiple times where a midwife has refused medical intervention which resulted in infant death, yet no one talks about that?
diehardsweetheart 5 days ago
@diehardsweetheart please list them
kevintimmins 2 days ago
@kevintimmins here's a great example, google the article written by the Dail Mail titled: "Is an obsession with natural birth putting mothers and babies in danger". What about the midwife who laughed and made belittling remarks to a woman who delivered a stillborn in September of last year? No medical professional, including midwives, is perfect. Not all midwives are bad, but not all OBs/Family Practitioners are either and it's incredibly uneducated to claim that they are.
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Until about 1940, the majority of American women gave birth at home, with much better infant mortality rates. The fact that 98% of babies in America are born in hospitals and we have the second worst infant mortality rate in the developed world should be a clear indication to anyone with a brain that our system isn't working. The system exists for the purpose of making money, not healthy babies.
llamalover02 1 week ago
I'm glad Dr Lisa isn't my Ob - I think I might strangle her!
ratsmightfly 1 week ago
Also, homebirth is safe when the pregnancy is low risk. It isn't for everybody.
MistressUndress 1 week ago
I had water homebirth with 2 midwives assisted. It was AMAZING! I'd do it all over again. A lot of times that shit goes wrong is because of unnecessary interventions.
I went to an OB at first, and he told me that my husband is a tall guy, so the baby might be too big; I should be expecting C-section *rolls eyes*
MistressUndress 1 week ago
well, the ideal would be a gentle birth inside the hospital, as anything bad might happen. just in case
rockisbetter 2 weeks ago
i had a midwife i so love her she did so much she was in a hospital i will stay in an hospital giving birth in case somethimg my not goes as planed
TheresaA06 2 weeks ago
People talk a lot about complications trying to frighten women, but a midwife will not recommend a home birth if you are high risk. I for one, would not deliver at home because I don't deal well with pain (I'm a fainter). The vasovagal reflex would make my bp plummet and the thought frightens me. There is also hypnosis which helps the women prepare herself to not focus on any pain. It's amazing what the human body is capable of.
iFlushedUrGoldfish 4 weeks ago
It's a frightening day when medical doctors don't care about, and aren't aware of the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE regarding their practices. Home birth has been proven safe time and time again. Gah...
danielle9074 1 month ago
its funny how the dr lisa says' i have assisted in thousands and thousands of births" i believe it she is a mummy under all that make up!
ARM33S29 1 month ago
@jillbiggs
Hey I didn't know you watch this show too :-) . That chick doctor gots problems you should watch her on the breast feeding video some where in the line up.
impresioname33 1 month ago
This is why I don't watch that show--that woman PISSES ME OFF! I've had 3 healthy, all-natural births outside a hospital with no major problems. With the statistics in this country, if I'd had them all in a hospital, I would most likely have ended up with at least one c-section.
knitmama06 2 months ago 4
meni kitu pisan. biasa we atuh dok
rumahpopok 2 months ago
Wow she is not about empowering women at all. if she can't properly understand the care of midwives. she needs to come to Canada and see how its done.
minnieclips 3 months ago 3
The idea that birth is in the hands of obstetricians is garbage. The way that women give birth nowadays is why? Because it's more convenient for the DOCTOR. Who gives a fuck about the doctor? If I'm giving birth, I am going to give birth in the position that I want to. Doctors think they know everything, but that's just not true. Look at episiotomies - given by doctors to "help" with tearing, but they actually cause MORE damage than natural tearing.
aerdna14 3 months ago 4
Dr. Lisa is why I hate doctors. Yes, you went to medical school, I get it. But just because you have an MD doesn't mean that your opinion is the be all, end all. Some of the things that she said about water birth were completely incorrect and terribly misleading. I am going to have my children in a birthing center, I want to be able to give birth when my body is ready and not have to be induced. I want to give birth in the position I want, how I want and I don't want any unnecessary procedures.
aerdna14 3 months ago 9
Of course the OBGYN doesn't want you to have a home birth with a midwife, what would she be able to bill your insurance for? It's like a BMW dealer explaining why their cars are better for you then all the other cars. It's about money. Yes she really does believe it's better because her bread and butter is made selling that idea to women.
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allouTV 3 months ago
The irony of an American doctor lecturing women about how dangerous home birthing is is staggering. There is NOTHING dangerous about home birth, when you have a low risk pregnancy. This lady is talking about fistulas? Who does she think assists in these home births, the next door neighbour? Midwives aren't ignorant, they are trained professionals and should be treated as such.
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Failure to progress is often "failure of doctor to wait patiently" Fuck that stupid bitch, she def does care about her section rate. She's a liar. I love Ricki and intend to birth my next baby at home. Away from fuck up doctors who don't know what REAL birth is supposed to be like
1stborncolton 4 months ago
Failure to progress is often "failure of doctor to wait patiently" Fuck that stupid bitch, she def does care about her section rate. She's a liar. I love Ricki and intend to birth my next baby at home. Away from fuck up doctors who don't know what REAL birth is supposed to be like
1stborncolton 4 months ago 3
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Failure to progress is often "failure of doctor to wait patiently" Fuck that stupid bitch, she def does care about her section rate. She's a liar. I love Ricki and intend to birth my next baby at home. Away from fuck up doctors who don't know what REAL birth is supposed to be like
1stborncolton 4 months ago
Failure to progress is often "failure of doctor to wait patiently" Fuck that stupid bitch, she def does care about her section rate. She's a liar. I love Ricki and intend to birth my next baby at home. Away from fuck up doctors who don't know what REAL birth is supposed to be like
1stborncolton 4 months ago
I hate how that women (rickis partner) kept nodding... Ricki couldnt even get a word in.. Midwives are trained and prepared for all those scenerios
jillbiggs 4 months ago
It seems I've heard so many horror stories from women who have had their babies in the hospital, but I haven't heard one bad story from women who have had midwives.
tigerslilly29 4 months ago 4
she acts like midwives are not trained.. they are more experts than she is.. they come prepared for all the emergencies! So annoying to listen to people so ignorant
jillbiggs 4 months ago 3
"Take risks with your baby if you want" - OK, if I want to take risks with my baby, I will got to the hospital where they won't let me drink water or eat food necessary for energy in labor, where they'll keep me confined to bed, strap me to all kinds of unnecessary equipment, and then freak out when their equipment shows signs of a NORMAL labor, give me RISKY chemicals (like epidurals and pitocin, which btw, the fda has never approved to induction) then tell me I need CUT OPEN...
reject37records 4 months ago 14
@reject37records....thereby increasing ALL risks to mom and baby, then take the baby away from the mother and father immediately, to poke and prod and scrub off the immune protection of the vernix, then put it in a warmer because mom is still having surgery (instead of allowing moms body heat help baby regulate temp) and by doing all of this, greatly decrease the rate of successful breastfeeding and attachment with mom and baby, and increase health risks to baby,,,hmm, sounds totally not risky.
reject37records 4 months ago 8
@reject37records
it depends on what hospital you go to. there are hospitals where midwives deliver the babies and the doctors come in only if there is something wrong.
rania3830 1 month ago
Dr Lisa needs a swift kick to the face. That is all.
reject37records 4 months ago 4
I am so sick of reading comments that say "hospitals are horrible places to give birth at", in my opinion, all births are beautiful, whether they are water births, home births, c-sections or done with epidurals. Home births work for some, and not for others. For me, the hospital provides a security blanket, one I would not have a home. Also, having had a high risk pregnancy, I would've never risked a home birth. To each her own.
singlemomadvocate 4 months ago
interventions or treatments. You have a right to know your body and participate in your health care decisions but I have seen hundreds of emergencies (and only worked on L&D for 4 years) and would never recommend risking it at home. Pitocin is a high risk drug but any nurse who has seen even 20 births knows that and will be extremely cautious with it- no matter what the Dr. or resident says about "increasing pit" or bed space or time of labor... We will take care of your baby and you first.
Merke3 4 months ago
@Merke3 Im sure u have seen hundreds of emergencies cuz all those women are at the hospital and not at home.. just proves hospitals are the cause of all those emergencies
jillbiggs 4 months ago
As an RN in maternity care I respect and support women who want to go natural and have known a few who have done home births, but I also see women putting pressure on themselves not to have an epidural in pain for days and putting their babies at risk of infection (after prolonged rupture of membranes) and distress by refusing interventions. Please trust your health care providers to help you make decisions and guide you... if you feel pressured ask more questions. We'll tell you why we suggest
Merke3 4 months ago
Maybe we shouldn't force fertility on those who are struggling but instead diagnose and fix the underlying problem, thus reducing high-risk pregnancies, decreasing the number of preterm deliveries and infant mortality in the U.S. It is not some business of greed to be in maternity care. It is the lowest paid specialty in the medical field because of malpractice insurance!! NO ONE does it for the money. Ricki's video is SO misleading and insulting.
Merke3 4 months ago
The infant mortality rate in the U.S. is probably strongly correlated to the preterm delivery rate in the U.S. which, has anyone ever thought, may be related to in-vitro or other artificial fertility treatments that we in the U.S. 'play God' with? In that, by giving fertility drugs or making someone pregnant- FORCING pregnancy on a body that was obviously not getting pregnant in the normal fashion, maybe we are risking lives by placing them in an environment which is unable to carry to term...
Merke3 4 months ago
Oh wow, Dr. Lisa...you give me a hospital room with draperies...so that made the epidural which triggered the pitocin which triggered the fetal distress which triggered the emergency c section worthwhile!
TeacherTudi 4 months ago 6
Wow Dr Lisa states she has seen thousands and thousands of births but how many of those were normal? And how many were flat on their back with epidurals? Choice and education is what is key.
nursebridle 5 months ago 6
I dislike Dr. Lisa a little bit after this... She is coming off so angry and defensive. None of her points even make sense and when pointed out she gets angrier and louder. Yeah, interrupting someone isn't going to make your point the correct one...
RinoaHatake 5 months ago 8
educate yourself and do what you want. you're not a bad mom if you have home or hospital. good god.
abra819 5 months ago
Babies should be born at HOME and ONLY at home !!!! Hospitals are disgusting and full of viruses/ diseases !!
weareexpecting1 6 months ago
@weareexpecting1
Hospitals are full of diseases and viruses? so when you get cancer or your baby gets an illness. do not take them to the hospital. or if you are in labor and the baby is not turning over or something else going wrong with the baby or yourself. do not go to the hospital.
people like you are ignorant about medicine.
rania3830 1 month ago
My first child was born December 31st. On his due date at the hospital. i was there for 2 days before that. My whole stay was a week. I didn't get out because it was a holiday and a weekend. No one rushed my birth. They checked on me and let me rest. My second was born two days before her due date. Jan 27th. She was induced because she was spiking my blood pressure. He used mineral oil and I didn't tear. I never had a bad experience with either one.I wanted a midwife with my second but didn't.
Wantin2Learn 6 months ago
My OB did not give her all to my delivery. She actually scheduled me for an induction on my due date because it was 2 days before Christmas. Luckily, my daughter wanted to be born on her terms and I started laboring naturally 5 hours before my scheduled induction. The only time I ever saw my OB during my labor/delivery was the last 10 minutes before my daughter was born.
maternalme 7 months ago
I had a hospital birth and had a home birth. And the home birth went much smoother and was just a perfect delivery! It was a great experience!
1986Baki 7 months ago 3
The female doc is so defensive lol ;) I agree with Ricky, she's right, everyone else is wrong LoL
Shareallicu3 8 months ago 29
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home birth? and when there's a problem you'll be screaming at your hubby to get yer ass to a hospital but it'll be too late and you'll have a tard baby who you'll ignore coz you'll be out having lezbo couger fests with other hippy bitches while dad is at home with Corky
lunaboomboom 8 months ago
maybe they choose it because it's cheaper?
Konform2zoidberg 8 months ago
Uh, more people are choosing home birth because....THEY DON'T HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE AND CAN'T AFFORD IT. The bias of this "panel" not even mentioning it is absurd beyond credibility of any kind.
fakebeliever 8 months ago
@fakebeliever it cost me $200 to deliver at a hospital through my HMO. it would have cost at least $3000 to deliver at home with an experienced midwife; even more if i wanted a doula as well. i wish i could have afforded it.
b33zli3 7 months ago
@fakebeliever
i don't know where you live. but where i live it is more expensive to have a home birth then going to a hospital.
rania3830 1 month ago
Home births are the way forward, people using death against mums are too scared to accept human bodies can do amazing things with the help of medicine!!!!
415866 8 months ago 3
i regret birthing in a hospital. I was treated like shit and one of the nurses pushed my leg all the way back when i told her repeatedly to not do it because it hurts my hip and i want to keep my legs rested on the bed. bitch didnt listen and my pubic sumphysis separated by 5 cm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my ligaments tore and i lost control of my bowels and urine and my bladder collapsed! I am looking into suing!!! give birth at home! where u can guide your own body!!!
RottenBrains71 9 months ago 3
@RottenBrains71 What kind of hospital you went to? Thats horrible, nurses, n doctors should be nice!!
Msdeezy1 7 months ago
Squat like humans are meant to! It will cut down on fistulas and the dreaded episiotomies! Laying on your back tied to a mechanical device (transhumanist much?) is not function it causes injury! And why are physicians so arrogant? lol My brother is a dr. and pulls the same shit dr. Lisa is. Anyway, point is up the home births up the midwives!
Riotgirl93 9 months ago 2
I love Lisa Masterson . But she is a doctor who works in a hospital what do you expect her to say!
GREGLOVESJENNA 9 months ago
How on earth did we survive for thousands of years before technology and medical intevrvention got a strangle hold on our births! I am trully amazed by some of the ignorance displayed in these responses.
BMIDSTUD 10 months ago 4
@BMIDSTUD Natural selection.
ericaj58 9 months ago
@BMIDSTUD
We didn't survive all those years. Infant and mother death was much high before medical science came along.
rania3830 1 month ago
@rania3830 The majority of childbirth related deaths in prior to the early 1900's were due to infection or hemorrhage. When people started understanding germs and nutrition, and better health overall, the death rates in childbirth reduced corresponding to other health measures. The move from home to hospital in the early 1900`s was less a factor in improving maternity rates than improved living conditions overall.
kaurinaj 1 month ago
@kaurinaj
my friend that's not the only reason mother/child death rates went down. a lot of women and babies were dying during labor because doctors didn't have the technology and knowledge to monitor mother-baby condition. a lot of women had problems with the babies not turning over or the umbilical cord wrapped around their neck. or mother's blood pressure spiking up which results into needing a c-section.
not only that women didn't have proper pre-natal care like they do now.
rania3830 1 month ago
THE DOCTORS have no touch of the real world
0927Mandi 10 months ago
And, obviously, Dr. Lisa didn't WATCH the movie...Abby Epstein's midwife is the one who said they needed to go to the hospital and get a C-section. She knew the signs and knew she couldn't do it at home. The baby was FINE. No dead baby, no dead mommy, because the midwife knew that it was risky. "Take risks with your baby if you want," Dr. Lisa says....um...what is the risk when you've got a professional who knows what she's doing???
dw9559 10 months ago 31
@dw9559
i think it's safer to have a hospital birth. when my mom has me back in 88 she was 12 hours in labor and the doctors were waiting for me to turn over. my mom's blood pressure winded up shooting up and they had to do a emergency C-section. had she not been in the hospital i don't even i would be alive today or if my mom would be.
rania3830 1 month ago
Dr. Lisa won't even listen and hear them out...yeah, she's just like all the other lawsuit-terrified docs that are killing America's babies and mommies at rates that look like an epidemic compared to countries with far less technology and far fewer interventions. She knows everything and there is nothing left she can learn.
dw9559 10 months ago 2
i actually dont care about births or how women choose to give births in general. i just came to the vdieo after reading a bunch of negative reviews on this lisa dr. and ive seen the show before, she seems like a bitch and now i see why alot of people and past patients both men and women hate her. she is condensending bitch
oblongfan1 10 months ago
Hi Dr Lisa, ever heard of interrupting is not nice?
03mct 11 months ago
having a baby in a hospital or at home is a risk either way. but women should have the right to choose how and where they want to have their babies and this right is being struggled for. i currently live in georgia and it isn't exactly legal or illegal to have babies at home. i think everyone should see ricki lakes documentary "The Business of Being Born"...
snoopyrocks89 11 months ago
Dr Lisa: "I am always for empowering woman and cutting off part of little boys' penises!"
DrKurzman 11 months ago
GO RICKI!
Emmy88t 11 months ago
She looks fake, Doctors are not that great looking. Her vocabulary is also really low... so she is no Doctor.
XxLuciferousxX 11 months ago
@XxLuciferousxX Hmm Dr Lisa is - to my judgement that is-actually a quite crappy-looking woman, her vacubulary is indeed very low and she is prattling unscientific nonsense-Hmmmm- I consider this the best evidence THAT SHE IS A doctor.
DrKurzman 11 months ago
Personally I plan to have my kids in a hospital, but I have health factors that make me high risk. It is a womans decision on where she and her partner as well, feel more comfortable having a baby.
Midwife's are just as capable as OB's to deliver a baby, they tend to know quite a bit for simple complications. There will always be a risk of complication no matter if you have your baby at home, or in the hospital. There is always a risk.
Regardless of peoples views, birth is a beautiful moment.
brainsbeforebeauty 11 months ago
..."If the purpose for the charges are for incidentals, if there are no incidentals, do you give the money back?" Hospitals are rigid. Most physicians are full of themselves and deem their knowledge to be higher than anything else. Aside from high risk pregnancies, I think more women should consider giving birth at home.
GirlieRat 1 year ago 2
I am not really sure I want to have a baby. But I have been very curious about birthing at home for a while and think it would probably be something I'd want to look into more. I think that doctors who push so hard for hospital deliveries are doing so for the money and not because they genuinely care. If they cared so much, they would not charge of the arse for something a midwife does at a fraction of the price. It's like the Cosby show episode in which a dinner guest asks Dr. Huxtable:
GirlieRat 1 year ago
also, women are ROUTINELY given drugs while in labor with little or no explanation of the risks and/or why they are being given.
how many women are even told that an epidural could cause chronic back pain (lasting for months or even longer AFTER delivery), bladder control problems, or even paralysis? or that it could and often does SLOW labor, causing a necessity for pitocin or other labor enhancing drugs?
girrrlychild 1 year ago
2028 pregnancies resulting in 2043 infants (15 sets of twins). 13 infant deaths=0.6% infant mortality between 1970 and 2000. in 2000, the infant death rate was just under 0.7% for the whole country and has declined to about 0.6% as of 2010 (according to the CDC website). so much for giving birth at home with a midwife being SOOOO unsafe.
(although i question whether or not the country-wide stats include all the "high risk" women and babies....)
girrrlychild 1 year ago
cont...
NO maternal deaths.
5 infants died due to lethal anomalies - i.e. severe birth defects, still birth, etc.
2 infants died due to placental abruption - a hospital would have MINUTES to perform a c-section to save these babies.
2 infants died due to a prolapsed cord.
4 infants died within 1 week of birth - 1 SIDS, 1 premie who was born in a hospital, and 2 from infections.
girrrlychild 1 year ago
here are some statistics on home birth. they are from "the farm" which is a rural community in Tennessee. these statistics include all women who were under their care from 1970 to 2000. they do not exclude women who were "high risk" like many hospital stats do for marketing reasons.
2028 pregnancies, 95.1% of births completed at home or in their midwife-run birth center, 1.4% of births ended in c-section, of 108 attempted VBAC 106 were successful, 1.8% of mothers hemorrhaged post-partum,
girrrlychild 1 year ago
Doctors are trained in diagnosing and treating disease. They are not properly trained in prevention. Just go to any local collage and ask for the class requirements to become an MD. That is the very foundation of why a doctor is a bad choice when dealing with an issue that is not an illness such as pregnancy.
Meiabell 1 year ago
@DrSandmann Ohhh you poor thing you had to read a few text books. I bet unlike a midwife who you alledge has "limited knowledge and experience" you've never actually sat with birthing women? Are you seriously implying you are a god? Midwives/nurses just spend all there time cleaning up your mess. Don't pretend this isn't about ego and trying to make your almost worthless professional feel warranted. Only about 20% if not less of women should require an obgyn the mortality rate before was 10%FYI
powernap2004 1 year ago
Dr lisa is so anxious to save a life she'll cut into anyone to prevent it wether its an actual risk or not..
VKMTkitty 1 year ago
Dr. Lisa needs to calm down. Her attitude is the VERY reason that people choose to stay OUT of a hospital during labor and delivery. Don't try those 'scare tactics' with me. Birth is a natural process that has been happening since the dawn of time. It doesn't HAVE to be scary and rushed.
danali80 1 year ago 3
@danali80
Before modern medicine, that “natural process” you call childbirth used to be the #1 killer of women. That’s a fact.
And mind you, midwives don’t refuse to use modern medicine to help birthing occur. They use medications too. The difference, however, is that their training and knowledge-base is less than that of an OB. They are handling pregnancies and childbirth while armed with less ability to troubleshoot and manage problems.
If that’s what you want, then go for it.
DrSandmann 1 year ago
@DrSandmann
Actually that is not a fact. You should read more about the history of childbirth. For one records were rarely kept, thus making your claim impossible to substantiate; secondly pre-natal testing, such as the ultra sound, is what prevents most problems, not giving birth in a hospital. Having a baby in a hospital actually places higher risks.
Reference: History of American Childbirth (a scholarly source)
Meiabell 1 year ago 3
The Dr lady on here is why I don't like doctors!! SO RUDE!!!! Why would you want your baby near that. I bet she is the reason some women have problems because she is a stressor!
kcandkara 1 year ago
80-90% of European births are at home and only 2% of US births are at home and US still has a higher infant mortality rate...
woah455 1 year ago 2
@woah455
Hence, it simply has to be the hospitals and OBGYNs causing this increased mortality, right? I mean, it couldn’t possibly be the fact that Americans have less access to routine general health care and prenatal health care than Europeans do...right? Or the fact that half the women in this country having babies are overweight or obese, which severely increases pregnancy risk. It can’t be that! It’s gotta be those damn American OBGYNs killing all these extra babies.
DrSandmann 1 year ago
@DrSandmann NO, i didn't say it's hospitals causing this or OBGYNs. I would never say that because those people actually save lives. But what Dr.Lisa is saying is the reason babies actually die is because of lack of hospital intervention and statistically, if we look at home births in Europe and Hospital births in US, then we see that that is in fact NOT what causing infant mortality. You can have your baby at home and you would be fine most of the time without hospital intervention.
woah455 11 months ago
@woah455
Do you not understand the difference between correlation and causation? Home births don’t have a high rate of safety because home birth is an inherently safer way to go. They have a high rate of safety because only the healthiest pregnancies are suitable for delivery at home, whereas OBGYNs delivering babies in hospitals are dealing not only with healthy pregnancies, but also the complicated ones. Home births involve almost exclusively healthy pregnancies. Do you understand this?
DrSandmann 11 months ago
@DrSandmann Yes, I do understand the difference between correlation and causation and no I did not say, for the last time, that I thought hospitals cause complications. I did not say home births are safer but I'm also not saying that ALL people should deliver in hospitals. Once again, in Europe most people deliver in hospitals and have a lower infant mortality rate than we do, and no that does not mean hospitals are at fault, but it also does not prove to me that hospitals do much good anyway.
woah455 11 months ago
@woah455
Once again, you’re demonstrating your lack of information. European women are healthier than American women are. American women are a bunch of fat, diabetic, hypertensive slobs who are having babies at older and older ages. Do you think that maybe THAT has something to the higher mortality rate here?
Or the fact that European women tend to have better access to prenatal care than women here do. Do you think THAT might have something to do with it as well?
Get a f-ing clue!
DrSandmann 11 months ago
@DrSandmann OK, I know that American women are fat and all that. Knew that. Once again, did not say that was not the case of infant mortality. But Why do European women have better access to prenatal care?? Why do they choose to have home births?? Is it because they have better access to prenatal care therefore are better informed?? There you go, you lead yourself there.
woah455 11 months ago
@woah455
I don’t give a shit why European women choose to deliver at home. And I don’t care why they have better access to prenatal care (although universal health care might have something to do with it, ya think?).
What I DO care about is the fact that European women are on the average getting better prenatal care and are healthier than American women when they squeeze their babies out, and THAT is the reason they have a lower rate of infant mortality. Beyond that, the discussion is moot
DrSandmann 11 months ago
@woah455
And let me modify my previous statement....European women don’t get ‘better’ prenatal care. They’re just more likely to get prenatal care, period.
DrSandmann 11 months ago
@woah455
The average American woman is somewhat unhealthy and has less access to prenatal care. That makes her pregnancy more prone to becoming higher risk, and thus she is less of a candidate for a home birth. OB’s (who are the sole experts on pregnancy and parturition) generally don’t it’s a good idea for American women to deliver at home.
As for why European women have more prenatal care, it’s because even routine and preventative health care is outrageously costly here in America.
DrSandmann 10 months ago
@woah455
Are you retarded or something? Did it not occur to you that maybe we’d have a hell of a lot more dead babies if it weren’t for OBGYNs and hospitals?
Jesus H. Christ, how does one argue with ignorance like yours???
DrSandmann 10 months ago
@DrSandmann
You are a fool
BMIDSTUD 10 months ago
@woah455
There are many conditions that require hospital intervention.
Your problem is that you (like Rikki Lake) are 99.9999% ignorant of all of the problems that can occur before, during, and immediately after birth that require, REQUIRE a hospital staff to manage. Most of these problems are directly related to the mother’s health. (For example, diabetic mothers are more likely to have baby with IRDS, which requires treatment in NICU).
In Europe, you have fewer diabetic mothers. Get it?
DrSandmann 10 months ago
@DrSandmann Uhh..I knew that! I'm talking about HEALTHY women not women who have other conditions. Of course, if you're sick, you shouldn't be taking the risk!
woah455 10 months ago
@woah455
I have news for you. Even healthy women can have complications that require immediate medical intervention -- the kind of intervention that midwives are not trained to give.
DrSandmann 10 months ago
@DrSandmann I have news for you. Even at a hospital mothers lose their babies. -_-
woah455 10 months ago
@woah455
No! Really? I had no idea!! I thought hospitals saved 100% of all babies. Hell, 110%, even!
Look, dumbass. And try to get this through your thick skull: when complications arise, you are going to fare much better with an OBGYN in a hospital than you are with some marginally-trained midwife who has few tools at her disposal.
DrSandmann 10 months ago
@DrSandmann
BMIDSTUD 10 months ago
@woah455
where are you getting your numbers from? UK and other european places hospital birth is the majority.
rania3830 1 month ago
@rania3830 I have watched a documentary on this. I think it was either called "The business of being born" or something else..It was a long time ago so I wouldn't remember now.
woah455 3 weeks ago
I'm so tired of that Doctor and her everything medical is superior and natural is bad.Get out of here with that.
TrynaGetBacToMyLuv 1 year ago 2
No I do NOT want OBs to be "ever cautious"! Why would I trust a doctor who has so much botox she can hardly move her mouth, anyway?
sarahcyn 1 year ago 47
@sarahcyn lol - or with so much lip gloss it looks like she's drooling.
callinthe 1 year ago
@sarahcyn lol
you made my day
caritopastrana 5 months ago
@sarahcyn that dr has to be defensive because its her job to make it look like hospital are the safest place
, but after watching some documentaries on home birth it is sad to see that we as women are just numbers and they just have to make us have our baby in the quickest way possible. as women we have that right to choose and no one can take that away from us.
tkahnwith5 5 months ago 3
No I do NOT want OBs to be "ever cautious"!
sarahcyn 1 year ago
I have been studying and researching the hell out of certain topics for the past some years now, and I can clearly tell when someone is vesting ego into a conversation, and defensive, as well, lying. This black woman is all of the above. She's wrong. However, in her defense, she may actually believe this shit she's spewing. Because when you have trained in a system for so long, you become brainwashed into that system of thought. In either case, she's dead wrong in so many ways.
emerson24 1 year ago 2
What about exposure to sick people, and MRSA to a newborn in a hospital?
What about The drugs they use affecting the baby without the mother being properly informed that her CHOICE to get an epidural also affects the infant and can cause a lot of harm.
The USA is one of the most terrible places to give birth.
Meiabell 1 year ago
@Meiabell
Before an epidural is performed, the mother must give INFORMED CONSENT, you dumbass. That means she knows that the medications may affect her fetus.
DrSandmann 1 year ago
@DrSandmann yea, because when you're in hard labor, you don't have hormones flooding you and you have a completely sound mind to read a 3 page consent form begining to end and understand every medical term without anyone explaining any of it to you. give me a break. they put a ton of forms in front of you and tell you to sign them, nothing about it is "informed".
hmf099 1 year ago
What about exposure to sick people, and MRSA to a newborn in a hospital?
What about The drugs they use affecting the baby without the mother being properly informed that her CHOICE to get an epidural also effects the infant and can cause a lot of harm.
The USA is one of the most terrible places to give birth.
Meiabell 1 year ago
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BigFam9952 1 year ago
"We would rather not keep track of the [C-section] numbers . . . " I'll bet. As a midwife I get to keep track of ALL my numbers. I enjoy being accountable and recommend that others get to that same place. There is a real lack of accountability within many hospital settings (I've worked L&D). Consider my grandson who was born with severe apnea after OB staff waited for more than 2.5 hrs to do a needed c-sec. His chart "disappeared" days after. He has severe neuro impairment now. NOT OK!
BigFam9952 1 year ago
Look at the rates of infant mortality with hospitals verses home birth. Love the way the doc says 'dead baby and dead mommy'...the usual scare tactics. Once you are in the doors of the hospital you are in their domain and they have to do everything they have available to them for you....whether you need it or not. OBs are OVER cautious due to the legal system.
wildheartmuse 1 year ago 3
Having a baby in a hospital is taking a HUGE risk.
aberdeen14 1 year ago 31
@aberdeen14
Come back and make that comment when an emergency C-section needs to be performed, or when the baby is apneic.
Or are you going to tell me that midwives are experts when it comes to resuscitating babies as well? That would be pretty f-ing miraculous, considering the fact that they have basically a nursing degree and a two year nurse-midwife program under their belt. Even OBGYN’s, who have MD’s and 4 years of residency, don’t claim to be experts at resuscitating babies.
DrSandmann 11 months ago
@DrSandmann The facts speak for themselves: Infant mortality and maternal mortality rates are higher in the US than they are in other developed countries where midwives attend 70-80% of the births. If hospital deliveries are so safe in the US, why are there more dead babies and more dead mommies among the hospitals than there are among the homebirths?
dw9559 10 months ago 2
@dw9559 I think there is more to those statistics than just bad hospitals. The netherlands also has a high infant mortality rate, but most births are overseen by midwives. I think it is too easy to easy to just look at the statistics and directly blame the health care providers. There may be other factors at play. :)
ericaj58 9 months ago
my sister died of a hemorrage at a fucking hospital she was giving birth... she had a c section.... im pro homebirth!
Maricarmen417 1 year ago 4
hospitals are dirty! they have many infections...! my home my safe place my confortable place is home!
Maricarmen417 1 year ago 3
mmmm she could give me head anytime
bballer0304 1 year ago
women's bodies were made to give birth. hospitals/ob/gyns are taught to believe that birth is a dangerous medical procedure. it isn't. pregnancy isn't an illness and although there can occasionally be complications in delivery, many are caused by the interventions that are done routinely in hospitals. dr's look at birth as a pathological (i.e. abnormal, dangerous) process while midwives and home birth advocates look at it as a natural, normal event. read about The Farm and Ina May Gaskin.
girrrlychild 1 year ago 4
@girrrlychild
Wrong. Childbirth, when it goes wrong, can (and does) kill women. It used to be THE single biggest cause of women dying, prior to modern medicine. So yeah, pregnancy and childbirth can become very dangerous, lickety split. That’s why you’d have to be a fucking moron to leave your care in the hands of the limited knowledge and training of a midwife.
DrSandmann 1 year ago
i used to love dr lisa but after this and what she said about circumcision, i now know, she's an idiot. I would bet she's never even seen a home birth so she doesn't know what she's talking about.
hmf099 1 year ago
i used to love dr lisa but after this and what she said about circumcision, i now know, she's an idiot.
hmf099 1 year ago
Too bad they didn't let Ricki get a word in! Dr. Lisa looks like an angry woman with a chip on her shoulder. Did she have a bad birth experience?
teamevangelista 1 year ago
I had a home birth and a very healthy baby. Healthy women have no reason to give birth at a hospital. Ugh. What a stupid woman.
feathermeier 1 year ago
she is right; there are risks associated with having a birth at home because things can go wrong and it is better to be in an environment where a ceserean can be done right away rather than having to wait to get to the hospital, further putting the baby and mother at risk.
That being said, If docs were more supportive of homebirth then it would be even more safe.
creyes8519 1 year ago
Midwives in hospital want to go ahead and set women up with anesthesiologists just because they are overweight but have had vaginal and normal deliveries in the past. A home birth midwife does a better job at nurturing a woman's soul or spirit, than any doctor or hospital midwife.
emeraldeyes1979 1 year ago
treated me so badly, I chose a home birth. My midwife not only took care of my GBS, but she made me feel beautiful and amazing. I do not agree with the idea that hospital birth is the only way to have a baby. Please watch Ricki's documentary: "The Business of Being Born" becasue this OBGYN is way out of control when it comes to homebirth and it's safety. She keeps interuppting.
emeraldeyes1979 1 year ago
Dr. Masterson, I want to explain my situation about home birth. In 1998 I gave birth to a 6lb 4oz girl, who I was accused of doing all kinds of things by the nurses. I was bullied by the nurses to have pain meds, which I accepted after hours of being talked into it. My second child was born under the influence of an epidural, who I can tell you that I do not have the bonding with due to the fact that I was under the influence of drugs for. My third child came 9 years later, and because the
emeraldeyes1979 1 year ago
I am an obese woman, who looked for a midwife early in my pregnancy. I chose a hospital midwife who immediately at twelve weeks gestation wanted to do a glucose screening and had me meet with a anesthesiologist, even though I had two perfectly healthy previous vaginal deliveries. I found a midwife in my area, Katherine Bramhall, who not only tended to me after being diagnosed by a hospital with GBS, but cured me, and gave me a vaginal delivery at home in a Auquadoula. My baby is fine.
emeraldeyes1979 1 year ago
I am proud to say I am having a home birth and i am 30 weeks pregnant :) I think people like her to stand up and speak the truth. I'm sick of doctors trying to scare the crap out of me.
element3889 1 year ago 3
I agree , dr lisa is an idiot!
drjoeiii 1 year ago 3
someone like me, wants both equally. Home environment, but the safety of doctors. Here where i live, there use to be a place where you had a much more home feeling than the regular hospital feeling. Midwifes and professional doctors worked together. Im so sad that it is not there anymore. I really wish there were more like it though..
Bo0skiesz 1 year ago
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carlyjordon2002 1 year ago
I have have given birth twice in a hospital and guess where I am having my 3rd? AT HOME!! I went into my 2nd birth with a birth plan and of course it all went out the window they day I had to be induced. Thankfully I gave birth without meds while being pumped full of pitocin but I refuse to give birth in the hospital. HB MW are more intoned to the female body and they understand birth is normal. Never again will I give birth in a hospital
carlyjordon2002 1 year ago
Doctors have no idea about homebirths - talking with them about it is like talking to a fish who thinks they know all about trees. It's great they know how to do C-sections and various interventions WHEN NECESSARY. I had a low risk preg and didn't want any interventions or fear based hopsital atmosphere, so I chose a homebirth with an amazing midwife. It was perfect. I saved the insurance co. at least $20K and they still wouldn't cover homebirth. Health care reform anyone?
jesstee1 1 year ago 4
Would you listen to a Doctor who got into a University because of affirmative action??
funkycowboy 1 year ago
Dr.Lisa is a moron
stefanierose88 1 year ago
the doctor is just defensive becuase she spent all that time going through medical school to do what she does - for the money. Midwives have nearly all the same training and they do what they do because they are passionate about birth. Hospitals follow protocol and procedures dictated by the medical laws of their practice. i know this because I WORK at a hospital. If you are passionate about home birth- DO IT. Do not think a doctor is always right.
TheLadyShred 1 year ago
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cyriljm 1 year ago
These people are such morons. How incredibly sickening.
joyrochelle 1 year ago
That doctor seems like an absolute idiot. The rates of intervention in the US are ridiculous. Here in the UK midwives deliver the majority of babies, unless there is a complication that requires intervention - then a doctor is involved. you can also get a homebirth on the NHS, with NHS midwives in attendance so you KNOW you have properly qualified people there. And I don't get the big deal they're making about pitocin - it's not used in the UK AT ALL!
stimela1000 1 year ago
Thank you Ricki for speaking up for women!
TheMrseju 1 year ago
I understand both sides. If I would have had a home birth, both my daughter and I would be dead. However, I know of others who have had a wonderful experience. I think that Dr. Lisa is very emotionally charged and this is not typical of a physician, so I am guessing that what she has seen is horrific. Perhaps, Germany does it the best way.
mommashopper 1 year ago
If you have never given birth at home or ever witnessed a home birth- shut the f up- you do not know what you are talking about.
I got messed up in the hospital and took 1.5 yr to recover, 2nd baby born at home w/out complications (10.5lbs and a 2hr labor!) Third baby to be born at home, surrounded by perfect care, knowledge and love.
jackiefraserswan 1 year ago 2
1 in 4 woman get a c-section... and its not even needed. i think these doctors just made themselves sound retarded, and i liked the show. but now im liek this is stupidd... so soooooo stupid. personally, i dont want a fucking doctor pulling my baby out from my vag when it isnt needed... AND i dont want a doctor pushing drugs on me and i dont want a doctor trying to induce me because i'm past the "due date". like seriously...
BaileyFlys 1 year ago 2
i seriously despise dr lisa. she said on another show she thinks women should turn the responsibility of birthing their baby completely over to their doctor! whisky tango foxtrot!!!! idiot!
bronwynemillar 1 year ago 2
some people want to go back to the stone age... is not the option of the mother is another life that they also carry wtf
babyely09 1 year ago
Dr. Lisa is a Reptilian.
aiysmama 1 year ago 3
Ricki Lake gets better looking the older she gets. She is beautiful!
LyraEchelon 1 year ago 2
I'd sooner give birth in a tree than let Dr. Lisa touch me.
originsdoula 1 year ago
Dr. Lisa needs to wake up to what's really going on in our hospitals. Women and babies are dying at unprecedented rates not because of the LACK of medicines, drugs, or surgeries, but BECAUSE of them! OBGYNs don't know the first thing about what a natural birth looks like - they know how to "treat" labor and delivery and when their little formula of induction, pitocin and monitoring doesn't go their way, they do a c-section and then say "Look, we just saved that baby and mother's lives."
twolittlechickens 1 year ago 3
ffor conservatives it's evolution and global warming. for liberals it's medicine and GMO's....it's all anti-science, quaint at best, dangerous at worst
debaser71 1 year ago
Pitocin is just ONE treatment for hemorrhage. Usually uterine atony (i.e. a uterus that doesn't contract after birth).
But the woman in the audience is saying that the midwife has pitocin as if that's the cure-all for hemorrhage. She's dead wrong.
Sometimes surgery is needed emergently in order to stop hemorrhage. Sometimes blood transfusions are needed emergently. And if you're at home, and the only person you have next to you is a stinking midwife, then you're SOL.
DrSandmann 1 year ago
@DrSandmann but if you're at the hospital and all you have is a Dr. wanting to get home for dinner then you have a major unneccesary surgery. SOL.
cherienb123 1 year ago 3
@DrSandmann Midwives are typically licensed to administer a variety of anti-hemorrhagics, start IVs, etc. You know, the nice lady in the audience is not a midwife; perhaps you should actually talk with a "stinking midwife" before you write comments such as this.
BigFam9952 1 year ago
@BigFam9952
Ohhh....so what’s this? These “natural childbirthing” midwives giving drugs? Well....so much for natural childbirth, eh?
Since both midwives and OBGYNs use drugs and other medical interventions, I’d rather have the provider who has more training, thank you very much.
DrSandmann 1 year ago