Saw Stop II The Complete Demo

[MaddProductionz]

$120 for new blade and brake, vs $1000 + surgury, or just no finger at all =P ur choice, we got these at my school =]

[ipscjoe]

@MaddProductionz

I cut my pointer finger to the bone on my left hand....after all the doctor bills, medicine etc...it was closer to 6,000.........every highschool in the country should have these........but don't tell the kids they are there..

[MaddProductionz]

@ipscjoe OUCH that outa hurt like hell, n yea all schools should

[ingimann]

Every single time i watch the SawStop in action i get amazed! Every..... Single...... Time! =) Evolution for carpenters :P

[Orkomagic]

I own the 3 hp model; I absolutely love it...haven't triggered the mechanism yet and it's been like 2 or 3 years. I bought it primarily because of the beefiness and precision of the parts; not so much due to the safety device. It's consistently a top-rated tablesaw. But it's nice to know it's there, however I treat it as if it weren't. You never know, and I don't want to spend $69 replacing a cartridge and $99 for a new blade because I was careless.

[bloodychainsaw98]

Lol i thought tht this was saw 2 the video game

[Idiotsmakemesad]

I'm not convinced this would completely eliminate injury in all cases. I wanna see someone really jam something into it fast. Like what would happen if somebody slipped or tripped over. So far I've only seen slow-entry demonstrations and even then the hotdog seems to be missing pieces.

[anonimystro12345]

@Idiotsmakemesad If you slip and fall theres also the chance of breaking your face without a saw, not to mention that it would probably only give you minor cuts instead of ripping your face apart.

[Idiotsmakemesad]

@anonimystro12345 I'm not saying the device doesn't have merit. I'm just saying it would be good to see how it performs in a more realistic circumstance. People very rarely slowly feed the fingers into a saw, its almost always a result of some sort of slip up,either with their feet or just poor technique. Either way their hands end up moving quickly at the saw. I think you could still easily lose a finger and concealing that fact to give people a false sense of security isn't right.

[anonimystro12345]

@Idiotsmakemesad Even at a higher speed, this thing will only damage your finger as much as a paper cut. You would have to slip extremely fast in order to do actuale damage to it, you would have to do it faster then the rotation of the saw blade actually.

Go watch "sawstop in timewarp" on youtube and see what I mean.

[Idiotsmakemesad]

@anonimystro12345 Yeah I have seen it already. Seems the blade does about 3/4 of a revolution before coming to a stop. So you still have to endure like 20 teeth, potentially very damaging in my opinion..

Maybe your right but I'd still like to see the test.

[MistahhB]

When you can save your finger for as cheap as $70, you're gonna have to stop and wonder how cheap some people have to be when they'd risk their bodyparts for $70.

I would ask the same question if the replacement cost $1000.

You can replace a sawblade, but not a finger.

[combatcommand]

Fingers worth $70? Porposterous?

[seumas2]

Sawstop excluded macduff is impressed, macduff's innovative technology (The Original Jimmy Jig) the other alternate

mated to older table saws has retro-fitted that technology to be as save as it can ever be,

it will not wreck the blade or stop the saws operational function.

All macduff's ideally automatic anti-kick back devices are placed up front over-head of the blade or

cutting tool on a

stationary fence, (a macduff first) attaches to a bracket with a suspended rod from the stationary fence

[seumas2]

which will never deviate from the parallel.

This portable light weight technology cuts sheet material to 4ft. on center requiring no large

permanently mounted side or out-feed extension tables

World wide there are hundreds of thousands of table saws with the old dangerous technology out there. Sawstop at

this time cannot retro-fit these saws. Buy new not necessarily, retro-fit available yes, but don't be

complacent

[kamidrummer]

yes they can trigger by mistake.... pressure treated lumber has 18% moisture, and when youre touching the luber with your finger, and the lumber is touching the blade... the same thing happens, it stops.... and yes, when it wasnt supposed to

[macbeasty]

This should be a trap in the Scary Movie take off's of Saw. "I want to play a game. To escape from your doom, you must put your hand into the saw blade..."

Saw guy: "Ah fuck I forgot it was a Saw Stop"

[junksmasher777]

i dont care that is fucking awsome i dont care if it cost me 1000 dollars to replace a brake and a blade because i know FOR A FACT!!! that you CAN NOT buy NEW FINGERS!!!!

[xXKxIxLxLxExRXx]

not at the place i shop at

[keneke45]

its only 60 dollars

[kamidrummer]

to replace one that has been triggered is $69... not the whole kit

[macbeasty]

I honestly think there is a cheaper way to stop that blade.

I mean who said you had to "stop" the blade. Just make the blade go under the table and finish rotating. All the energy will be lost to natural friction.

[Sigbarth]

macbeasty there is no mechanism to retract the blade, it pulls it self down when it slamms into the aluminium block of the breaking cartidge. Thats partly what makes this device so brilliant, it's simple and therefore reliable and cheap. I think this should be obligatory equippment on any rotating tool. I know some carpenters that lost fingers just because a brief moment of inattention.

[toolkingdotcom]

Interesting idea. Though considering the speed of a TS Blade 2500rpm +, in the time it takes to accelerate a spinning blade downward, it would still likely get a good rip out of anything that it touches. Though who knows, something to explore for sure.

[iwantthisnow]

for sure you'd get a little nick of a cut. but that's better than losing your finger, and actually the faster the blade spins, the faster it would drop, because it uses the spinning momentum to make the blade drop.

[mastachief1000]

Actually, Look for Time Warp Saw Stop, the guy poot his finger into the saw blade whils it was on and spinning. It stopped on the dot, He explained it as a "...Buzz, then a tickle..." there was no blood.

[thomasdamasta]

The momentum the saw gains from hitting the aluminum block forces it downward.

[macbeasty]

Ya I know it goes down anyways but it seems they are taking two precautions:

1) They stop the blade

2) They have the blade retract under the table

Both are possibly used to ensure saftey. But the first one is hard to accomplish without causing massive damage to something absorbing all that momentum. I would think retracting the blade under the table WITHOUT STOPPING its spinning would save lots of money and it would still save fingers.

[thomasdamasta]

Once the saw stop is initiated it destroys the blade and aluminum block. You have to buy new ones. Also how would you expect the saw to go down fast enough to save your fingers if you didn't have kinetic energy? The Aluminum block is the brains behind the entire thing.

[AndreaGanora]

@toolkingdotcom

Hi

That's a great invention, I'm glad You made this device , 5*

About macbeasty comment, what he pointed out was my first tought as soon as I watched the clip, I was wandering if the blade drop would be too slow to save the users flash or would drop fast enough to save users flash & cash due to fewer spares to replace, anyway that wouldn't work on bandsaws.

Anyhow I really think that 60/70 bucks are a bargain compared to a nasty saw injury.

Thanks for the video and the invention

[technoman43]

@toolkingdotcom i have seen it happend, they are %110 not goign to hurt you at all unless you throw your arm into it at 100mph and you will get a scratch (but why do that)

[junksmasher777]

yeah but you cant buy new fingers

[EastBayFM]

@macbeasty id rather spend the 60$ to save my finger than go budget safety

[Mortokeiro]

If it's so secure I would see yours fingers instead of the sausage!!!

[Sigbarth]

the saw will cut you a few millimeters before it retracts and you'll need a band aid as can be seen in the other demo videos but at least the finger will still be attached to the hand.

[Mortokeiro]

yes, I saw that. so could had tryed with glooves. or not?

[Loachy]

The inventer was on the show Time Warp and stuck his finger in it. Didn't even break the skin.

[biffset4]

they used a real hand on the show time warp

[fluberhaben]

i want to know what happens if you're cutting wood that is wet, or hit a nail. i don't want to pay 200 bucks for no reason.

[jrehs]

I ahve one in my shop and we had the blade stop a couple times.. we cut wet wood from outside and we started cutting and bam it stopped.. it would prolly cut threw the nail and metal shards would fly..

[YAMrida44]

we have one at school that cost $5,000 and it cost $180 to replace the stop and blade if it goes off

[ssgtakeo]

$180 is still cheaper than the human and financial repercussions of a lost digit.

[bigr7460]

doing tests on the saw is a waste of money, it costs about $200 to replace the cartridge and get a new one

[inventorkid13]

80$

[theruley]

the guy said in the video that a new cartrige is $69...and he probably used an old blade for the demonstration...can you put a price on saving your finger from getting cut off?

[steelrdan]

we have one of these at our high school and it works well - i used it today

[TheMovieMan3]

me too by any chance do you go to DJCC if you dont know what that is then never mind, just seems like your in my class we just set our saw stop up today

[tgasttko69]

I heard $3500 is the base price, I hope it come's with the Grill

[dinho1fan]

we have one at our school and i love it and feel way safer when i use it

[laxstud3]

im a sophmore and we have one of theese in our shop...its the best invention ever. i feel so much safer using it. it also goes down if it hits any metal.

[YAMrida44]

what school do u go to

[inventorkid13]

cchs

[watsonlr]

It's not the cheapest saw in the world and it's a bummer to lose a good blade and a brake cartridge, but think how much you would be willing to pay get your fingers back. Speaking from experience (missing the top of my left thumb...) I want one.

[pandabackflip]

do they have this in canada?

[inventorkid13]

ya we have one at our school in calgary

[rdp3186]

our secene shop in towson just purchased one with two spare brakes and blades. this friday were gonna throw a hot dog bbq and demo the saw.

[angud2000]

so after an accident happens, we have to replace the blade and the stopper?

[toolkingdotcom]

That is correct. If the break cartridge fires, instead of your fingers getting destroyed, the blade is pretty much destroyed. So you replace the cartridge (which contains much of the electronics to protect against wear and tear) and the blade. It takes about 5 minutes.

[macflyfilm]

This is one of the best inventions ever!

[TheSecondMe]

saw one of these for the first time a few days ago not knowing that something like this existed.. two thumbs up for a good idea being put to great use.

[VeryTucker]

there good saws to

[JonBigE]

i ahve one of these in my school.. it hasnt had to brake yet damnit

[skratch777]

thats so cool

[macflyfilm]

Yes it is.