Dorothy Meets Ozma of Oz Part 1: The Storm

[loudrgfan]

Never mind. Oh hey they forgot Jack Pumpkinhead.

[jaredofmo]

@loudrgfan Jack wasn't in the book "Ozma of Oz." He was in "Return to Oz" and the anime TV show.

[loudrgfan]

OMG! Is that B.J. from M.A.S.H?

[bduhe219]

because they were on a trip to australia, is that why we refer to australia as OZ? just wondering...itseems plausable.

[joshscomputer]

@bduhe219 I actually was just thinking the same thing...

[serpico89]

if you think about it what can wheelers do to harm someone? "we're going to tear you into little pieces!" how? you don't have hands XD

[MaskedMan66]

@serpico89 That's the Wheelers all over; fearsome at first sight, but ultimately ineffectual bullies.

[Gyrbun]

Wow... The weirdest thing about these wheelers is how feminine they look, not to mention the way they talk... I still like the Return to Oz live action film 100% above this. At least that's genuinely frightening. I know this sounds offensive, but I can't deny the fact that this cartoon just looks so... Gay, as in honestly. And I'm not light on using that expression.

[MakingTheMuffins]

gross.

[KoraggRules]

why does Dorothy looks alot like Alice

from Alice in Wonderland

[MooTelevision]

@KoraggRules Thats how she is illustrated in the book lol

[jiszellediva]

WTF????........?DID TOTO DROWNED?????

[Nyghtshade409]

@jiszellediva Oh, of course not. He'll turn up conveniently later.

[Peachblossom20]

was this from the same animators who made the little mermaid? not the disney version

[ricky94533]

this shit is all fucking doctored >.> not the book that old man LIED

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 1) Keep a civil tongue in your head.

2) What old man?

[ricky94533]

@MaskedMan66 how about you eat shit, and the old man at the beginning of this video

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 No, better for you to become mature and learn to speak to people in a civilized manner.

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 And by the way, Michael Gross was only forty when he did this show. That ain't old. In fact, it's only 17 years older than you.

[ricky94533]

@MaskedMan66, 17 years is a fuck load of time,

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 If by that stupid expression you mean a lot of time, when you consider that people are more and more making it to the age of 100, 17 years isn't that much. A lot can happen in that time, to be sure, but the span itself is of no great account.

Conversely, it's also possible that not a whole lot can happen in 23 years.

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 In any case, forty isn't old.

[83redshadow]

If any of you critics have ever read the Oz books you would know that this follows the story of the book very well, only Aunt Em stayed in Kansas with Toto and Uncle Henry was going to Austrailia for his health.

[ricky94533]

@83redshadow it's way the fuck off, chickens name was bill, she talked to Dorothy in the morning not at night, she offered Dorothy an egg, they never lost toto, they luchboxes was after they see the warning in the sand. and there wasn't any fucking cake, THE CAKE IS A LIE... I can't watch this... it's way too not with the story, please don't act like you can read..... "THE OZMA OF OZ COMIC TAKES IT IN ALOT MORE LIKE THE FUCKING BOOK"

[83redshadow]

@ricky94533 the chicken changed her name to Billina, toto stayed in Kansas, I agree, by the way I have read all of the Oz books by L Frank Baum. Also if your this upset of an adaptation by a cartoon, you really need to get a life.

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 Have you never heard of ADAPTATION?

[ricky94533]

@MaskedMan66 it's not the point, the person said it was exact....

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 If by "the person" you mean Michael Gross, he only said the special was "based on" the book. If you mean 83redshadow, here's a direct quote: "this follows the story of the book very well."

Neither said exact.

[ricky94533]

@MaskedMan66 would you consider this to follow the story of the book very well?

the story is changed completely... dude, I can see why I give two shits about this, but I don't see why you give a fuck

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 I'll start by requesting once again that you keep the language G Rated; talking the way you do makes you sound like an idiot.

As to your question, this company did the same thing with "Ozma" that MGM did with "Wizard"; they took the basic plot, stripped down the story of extraneous characters and events (in this case for reasons of time), keeping the most important bits intact, and delivering the closest adaptation their restrictions allowed.

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[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 As for why I care, I've been a fan of Oz all my life, and I applaud and support anything that lets people know there's far more to it than just that first story.

By the way, if this is how you feel about this cartoon, how would you have reacted to the 1902 Broadway version of "Wizard" which had a 19 year-old Dorothy who traveled to Oz with a cow, brought the Scarecrow to life with a magic ring, and fell in love with a poet? I suspect you'd have had a conniption.

But Baum loved it!

[ricky94533]

@MaskedMan66 your really really dank, my beef is with whoever said that this is exactlly like the book, and for the record, the most known story isn't the first, "the wonderful world of oz" I assume your talking about "the wonderful wizard of oz" and people know about it because of that stupid ass movie that came out, I assume your one of those persons who thinks Dorothy's foot gear is red... silver, it's fucking silver shit. the start of this is completely wrong, it's all a lie,

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 Dank? O... kay.

Gary4Gary4 said this was exactly like "Return to Oz," which it isn't, but that's the only instance I've seen in this thread of the word "exactly." Of course I was skimming; perhaps you could tell me who you meant.

The most known story is indeed "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz," available from your local library or book store in multiple editions, and that is what I was talking about.

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[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 Sadly, most people don't know about the other 13 that Baum wrote, and only know about the first book because of, as you say the MGM movie, which is brill nonetheless, and which Maud Baum heartily endorsed.

Tell me, would you have taken Baum himself to task for the silent movies he made, in which he took a bit of one book, a bit of another, and part of yet a third that he hadn't even written yet, and created an amalgamated Oz tale? Research "His Majesty, the Scarecrow of Oz."

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 And one more thing (at least for now): I've asked you twice now to keep the language civil. If you can do that, I'll be happy to discuss Oz with you, being a lifelong fan of the books and a bit of an Oz authority. If you can't keep it clean, then it makes me wonder how you can be into Oz in the first place.

[ricky94533]

@MaskedMan66 this debate is over, the resolution was I saw this as a cheap attempt at adaption from the books, it's way way different and I honestly don't care for it, I was happy that I thought I found it in animated format, only to find out it was just garbage, just like Most other videos converted from books, I'm an adult, not a kid, so I'll talk how I please, sorry for the inconvenience but that's just how life it.

[MaskedMan66]

@ricky94533 You're funny. 'Tain't over.

The word is "adaptation" and this is a very good one. Re-read the book and you will see that this show, given the restraints of time and budget it was under, was a very good one indeed.

And again I ask, what do you make of L. Frank Baum's own Oz movies?

If you're an adult, then talk like one.

[GreekMythFan7]

um how can kansas farmers whos house was destroyed in a tornado afford a trip to Austrailia?

[joshscomputer]

@GreekMythFan7 They can't..really. Doctor told them to take a vacation cuz Uncle Henry was sick from overwork. Because of all the debt, they eventually had to move to Oz in the book Emerald City of Oz.

[MaskedMan66]

@GreekMythFan7 This was a year or two after the house was destroyed, and the farm was doing pretty well; Henry was even able to afford some hands. Plus, in the book, Em stayed to look after the place while Henry went to visit his relatives.

[SaphirreTears]

Wait...Did they make a movie to this o.o... I've seen this before but...real o.O?..Im so confused...It seems So familiar...Maybe a book..Hmm...Weird..Oh well It has Michael Gross;D

[TimeWaster001]

@SaphirreTears You're thinking of the live-action movie "Return to Oz". I also noticed a lot of elements from the movie where borrowed for this series too! Like the way the wheelers look! O.o Still creepy even in a cartoon!

Btw, I laughed so hard when the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and the Lion all say, "Stop that!" XD LOL OMG! They seriously couldn't think of any other lines for these guys?! ROTFL But it's funny as hell!!!

[SaphirreTears]

@TimeWaster001 Ohh..Sorry for the late replyo.o...Lol. but Thanks for clarrifying that:D I knew I had seen This Catroon(Well, some of it) as a movie somewhere:) Lol

Thank you ^.^ 

[MaskedMan66]

@TimeWaster001 "Return to Oz" is for anyone who likes Oz, including the wee ones.

[PriestessOfNox]

...this is so weird...

So far "Return to Oz" is much better.

I hope the original story isn't this bad, I haven't gotten to it yet in my Oz book.

[MaskedMan66]

@PriestessOfNox "Return to Oz" is actually based on the second and third books in the Oz series, "The Marvelous Land of Oz" and "Ozma of Oz." This special is actually a very good adaptation, and delightfully free of too many MGM refernces.

[SeabassTheMighty]

Wow. Michael Gross. I was not expecting that. I swear, the first thing I thought of when I saw him was the "Tremors" movies. XD

[SaphirreTears]

@SeabassTheMighty :HAHA...I KNOW...I was like O.O " IT'S BERT<3! o.o...Oh Shoot... nobody make a sound"xD

[NotOrdinaryInGames]

Totally not animated in Japan.

[MaskedMan66]

@NotOrdinaryInGames So?

Mind you, the actress who played Dorothy was named Hiromi Kawaye.

[NotOrdinaryInGames]

@MaskedMan66 Mild sarcasm with no offensive intentions.

[MaskedMan66]

@NotOrdinaryInGames I wasn't offended, I just wondered why its not being animated in Japan was relevant.

[SuperCodywebb]

@MaskedMan66 I know who she is. Her english name is Janice, and best know for voicing a well-known cartoon character. Can one of you guess who it is?

[MaskedMan66]

@SuperCodywebb She's played quite a number of well-known cartoon characters, including Gi on "Captain Planet," Ami Onuki (okay, not so much as "cartoon character" as a cartoon version of a real person) on "Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi," and Jenny on "My Life as a Teenage Robot." Did I name the one you mean?

[SuperCodywebb]

@MaskedMan66 Correct. You deserve a cookie!

[MaskedMan66]

@SuperCodywebb Thank you!  :-)

[aja342]

Kinda sad that people are not familiar with the 14 Baum books.

[MaskedMan66]

@aja342 To quote one version of the Cowardly Lion, "Ain't it the truth?"

[KoisuruMarionnette]

what the?! what in the world is michael gross doing there?he should be on temors kicking el blonco's graboid ass!^__^ she looks like alice more than dorothy!

[MaskedMan66]

@KoisuruMarionnette Look in the books; she looks like Dorothy, with a touch of Betsy Bobbin.

[PinkPunkyKat]

I thought Dorthy was in a mental instutuion for ECT in this story?

[princesstarika]

@PinkPunkyKat I don't think that actually happens in the book.

[TheEpona92]

@PinkPunkyKat i think that's only in Burton's version

[PinkPunkyKat]

@TheEpona92 Tim Burton wrote the script for the live action version?

[MaskedMan66]

@TheEpona92 Tim Burton? He hasn't done anything Oz, and I hope he never does. Maguire's rubbish is bad enough.

[TheEpona92]

@MaskedMan66 um, yes he has. he did the "Return to Oz" movie, look it up on here. it's actually quite good in it's own way, as are Maguire's stories. it just takes a different perspective to appreciate them

[MaskedMan66]

@TheEpona92 I don't know who told you that. "Return to Oz" was produced by Paul Maslansky and directed by Walter Murch, who co-wrote the screenplay with Gill Dennis. Tim Burton was involved with a little-known Australian telefilm called "Lost in Oz"; that may be what you mean.

"Return" borrows heavily from Baum, which is why it's so good; I personally prefer it to the MGM movie as far as being an Oz adaptation. MGM is more fun, but it's not as Ozzy.

Yes, an anti-Baum, anti-Oz perspective.

[MaskedMan66]

@PinkPunkyKat No.......

Why would you think that?

[scandia]

Dorothy in this example looks far too much like Alice of the "Alice in Wonderland" series. MGM was smart to make Dorothy dark haired as we came to know her through Judy Garland.

[buddyboy80]

@scandia dorothy is blonde in all the original book illustrations but one.

[MaskedMan66]

@scandia Actually, this depiction of Dorothy is the closest to the illustrations of John R. Neill that has ever been presented on the screen (with the exceptions of Romola Remus and Violet MacMillan, two blonde silent movie actresses who played Dorothy), though her hair is much longer than that of the Dorothy Gale of the books.

The only reason MGM used Judy's own hair was that the blonde wig they'd intended for her was scotched by a producer who wanted her to be recognizable.

[maleficentdiva]

I don't like Dorothy as a blonde, Judy Garland was a redhead in the MGM version, and she was fantastic.

[TaintedJoke]

@maleficentdiva Judy garland was a brunette.

[MaskedMan66]

@maleficentdiva Regardless of what you like, Dorothy Gale was a blonde for 39 years before Judy Garland came along, and still is.

[SANAGUILAR24]

shes reely not a blode

[sherucrazy]

ccoooll :P

[sonicmixer]

Though I must admit it does make her sort of hot.

[sonicmixer]

Why is dorthy a blonde?

[TheLegallywicked]

@sonicmixer In the Original book Dorothy is blonde, mgm changed it because they felt it made her look like a dumb farm girl and because Judy Garlend made it look to atractive to be a young girl.

[MaskedMan66]

@TheLegallywicked They changed it because they wanted Judy to look like herself, not because "they felt it made her look like a dumb farm girl."

[MaskedMan66]

@sonicmixer Because she is. Look in the books.

[bjnboy]

The Nostalgia Critic or Chick should do a review of this film.

[MaskedMan66]

@bjnboy No. They should not.

[simonea214]

dorothy is really positive =)

[alexmunroe]

That was a close one! That piece of luggage almost smashed Uncle Henry right in the family jewels!!

[DannyLovesOregon]

This is similar to Disney's Return to Oz

[MaskedMan66]

@DannyLovesOregon Small wonder, since they're both based on the third Oz book, "Ozma of Oz." "Return to Oz" also used material from the second book, "The Marvelous Land of Oz."

[MondoBeno]

The final book written by Frank Baum was extremely creepy. It was overtly political, and the whole thing just creeped me out.

[MaskedMan66]

@MondoBeno "Glinda of Oz?" What's creepy about it?

[Argocity2006]

Um..What happen to toto?

[jazzymanga1]

XD ok its not bad but the them song made me lol

[113dvdsandcounting]

Burt Gummer!

[somegirlinma]

they got a lot of the idea and parts for The Return to OZ from this It looks like

[Filby]

Actually, both this and "Return to Oz" are based on the third Oz book by L. Frank Baum.

[MaskedMan66]

"Return to Oz" is a fairly seamless blend of the plots of "The Marvelous Land of Oz" and "Ozma of Oz," respectively the second and third books in the Oz series.

[BlackPearlGurl]

The play Ozma of Oz is so much fun.

I was a Wheeler. ^_^

[RookinherRookery]

The Wheelers are the best!

[MaskedMan66]

I didn't know there was a play; who publishes it?

[BlackPearlGurl]

Anchorage Press.

Written by Suzan Zeder

[MaskedMan66]

Thank you!

Wow, it's taken 110 years just to get the first three books adapted for the stage. At this rate, we'll have all 14 by around 3500 AD or so.

[BlackPearlGurl]

Lol. Too true.

You're welcome.

[slave2moonlight]

Ha, Michael Gross was totally not expecting anyone to walk in on him, or what? ;0)

[princerei]

it's a pretty common way for a show hosted by a book reader.

[VitoPossilipo]

Dorothy is so cute....!

[MagicEmperor]

I think this entire special would have a different feel if Samuel L. Jackson hosted it, instead of Michael Gross.

[AbelleDandy]

why did they have to bring there chickens with them?

[princerei]

The book never states that the chicken belonged to Dorothy's family (infact Toto wasn't there nor was Aunty Em either) it was likely just a chicken being transported to Australia for food purposes, that had nothing to do with Dorothy.

[nightmarecrazy08]

cool. (Michael GROSS!)

[mvezza]

Wow, they got the blonde hair right for once.

[Luckynumber78]

I'm more surprised that they got Ozma's ruddy gold hair right!

[MaskedMan66]

@Luckynumber78 It's funny; Baum described Ozma as having golden hair when she first appeared, and that's how John R. Neill depicted her in the drawings. But from "Ozma of Oz" onward, presumably to contrast with Dorothy's blonde hair, Neill gave Ozma dark hair, almost black in some pictures, and, as you say, a sort of ruddy gold in others.

Then again, Ozma is a fairy, and can change her hair color at will if she wants.

Doesn't explain how Trot went from blonde to brunette, however....

[ThePendulumWarriors]

umm this video makes me feel scareed XD

[chrisplushado]

I LOVED the Book <3

[ShortFace0]

They weren't willing to risk themselves to go after their neice? Shame on them! XD

[MaskedMan66]

Who says they weren't? I got the impression the door became stuck shut. Besides, Uncle Henry and Aunt Em didn't go to Oz until the sixth story.

Of course, Toto wasn't with Dorothy on this trip either.

[jellygirl122]

i had this movie i loved it so much!!!

[Lonsoleil]

The animation ain't bad!

What year did this come out in?

I think it's cool that the Family Ties dude is hosting it. I loved that show!

[luexiana]

lunch box trees: the solution to world hunger

[ttsmoke]

lol that tree would be extinct by know

[Gary4Gary4]

This is EXACTLY like Return To Oz, even the dialogue is almost the same

[princerei]

well since they're based on the same books... this is based on Ozma of Oz and the other one was based on that book as well as the preceeding one The Land of Oz.

[BLSEB]

this dorothy seem look pretty wonder if there is a gallery to compre different versions of dorothy or alice (fromwonderland) and other fictional charathers

[oliviar598]

jk...i just ment b/c in the movies and the book she is deferent..

[oliviar598]

SHE IS BLOND

[MaskedMan66]

She was in the books as well.

[elrota]

"STOP THAT!!!" LMAO!!!! They couldn't come up with three different things to say!? Where did these writers come from? LMAO But it's still cool! :P

[lollipopfop]

I agree, not the best lines.

[cositscheaper]

WHEELERS!! ARRRGH!!

:D

[Jangobadass]

Yeesh! Who makes these kinds of things?

And just once can't Toto stay put and NOT mess everything up?!

[MaskedMan66]

Hey, it was Toto who revealed the Wizard's ruse and made him come clean in the original story.

[NOORSAAD]

NICE VIDEO

[smoofoxie]

its very real to the book! i like it

[bernardstiegler]

cool. this is a lot like "Return to Oz" which i love, but some parts are slightly different. i wonder if its close to the way the book goes...

[elrota]

Well, it was pretty accurate which is nice to see (for once!) but the things that are not completely true are the facts that Aunty Em was NOT on the voyage to Australia with Dorothy and Uncle Henry, Scarecrow, Lion, and the Tin Woodsman do not meet Dorothy until much later in the book, and if memory serves me well...Toto is NOT in the book at all! But still pretty accurate... so far...

[scarletbword]

wheelers are scary.

[msmadhatter]

ahahahahaha he does sound like stitch

[Rexco33]

No I know Michale Gross as Burt Gummer from Tremors!

[Randompumpkin]

why does dorothy's voice remind me of Alice (in Wonderland)?

[WickedPhantom1]

It's not her voice that reminds me of Alice, but her clothes and hair. But it's true to the description in the books.

[sarahmouse11]

Her voice actress played Gi in Captain Planet, which is all I can hear when I watch this.

[MaskedMan66]

She has an American accent where Alice is English, so I have no idea.

[MaskedMan66]

It is a shame that people can't seem to escape the MGM version of "Wizard" even when they're adapting another of the books; the whole sepia-tone Kansas/rainbow/"Auntie" Em thing. It was always "Aunt" Em in the books.

[TheAngelofHavoc]

Anyone know what year this was made? It has many images that mirror Return to Oz.

It's so cute!

[RoyalKidofOz]

The video was released in 1987. They may have been considering a series.

[MaskedMan66]

@TheAngelofHavoc This an an adaptation of "Ozma of Oz," the third of Baum's 14 Oz books. Elements of that book were blended with "The Marvelous Land of Oz" (the second book) in "Return to Oz."

[lazyboyjay]

thank you so much, I love oz so much, quaility oz-animations is hard to find, please load up somemore if you have anything? thank you

[MaskedMan66]

All somebody needs to do is to film the book as Baum wrote it, and it will be a hit, no question. I mean, keep the actual killing of the wolves by the Tin Woodman and the crows by the Scarecrow offscreen, but otherwise it's all suitable.

[Jitter]

The Wheeler sounds like Stitch...

And, yeah, I agree-we're about due for another good Oz movie :)

[oohcool]

Thanks for posting!I just finished the first one yesterday. I have all of the books, but only read the first two. I'm finally picking up again. I'm starting "Dorothy and the Wizard in oz". By the way, I support the new Oz movie. Seriously send it in to a film company, with the signature's on your petetion. If alot of people support it, they'll make it because they want to be on top of the film industry.

Good luck!

[saintfighteraqua]

thanks!