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@iwashere339 you just threatened me on a public communication device , which is a felony ! I have your I.P. address and have turned it over to the authorities
This is cool, but is there a rule on Youtube or perhaps a federal requirement that all videos contain at least some distracting crappy music? I can't seem to find out for sure, I created a video that has no music at all and I am afraid it will be banned.
@pilgrim15801 As he mentions, that hydrogen would fit in two normal barbecue size tanks, but his township won't let him compress his own hydrogen and store it in a residential area. Hydrogen is very safe but quite misunderstood. Maybe it's because hydrogen has a nearly invisible flame they are afraid firefighters would walk into it and wouldn't know until it was too late.
@pilgrim15801 There is no purpose in storing the oxygen. The atmosphere stores it for him, without requiring more wasted energy to compress it. When he burns the hydrogen he just takes the oxygen right back out of the atmosphere.
@pilgrim15801 Oxygen is not a fuel. All fuels do not burn without oxygen. I do understand that compressed oxygen is valuable, and can be used for welding. In this instance, the cost in energy, is not worth it. the purpose is to power his house, not power a compressed oxygen factory. It takes energy to compress the gas. By venting it into the atmosphere he is now "storing" oxygen for later use, without requiring additional energy to compress it.
This is what i m talking about being of plumbing backround geothermo is whats going on today then add solar then add windpower? Then hydrogen yours is one of the best set ups i have seen now just do it in southern ca and get rid of heat and ac and you have my perfect life if i live that long thanks for the grrat video
@eudaemonian did you watch the vid? it says he got grants from the utility company and donations from companies to perform an experiment to see if this was possible to do this at a private residence
@iwashere339 no really?did you gather that all by yourself ? Your a real rocket scientist aren't you . it's called being self reliant, now go cash your welfare check
@ryn4181 Battery technology is certainly lacking, a more sophisticated battery system could be converting the hydrogen gas back to electricity using a fuel cell. But storing hydrogen sucks even more
Cool idea. Completely academic. It's nice to know it CAN be done, but for the money spent to construct this system, you could have bought a lifetime of conventionally generated power.
@digikill Yeah, and for the money spent on the local waste water treatment plant, your town could pay for a lifetime of peasants hauling away poop and dumping it in the nearest river. Why try to have a clean environment when it's so much cheaper to pollute?
He has done this with his mind not his bank account, mindset is all that makes matter what it is, he sees freedom by action, love to live this way by all means and you will. We are fully cabable of living and being free from the thought of having to work hard for something by simply replacing that thought with the thoughts HE thinks and by the example of HIS fruits. HE has seen this through and the path has been walked and created. I love you all :)
If you can't get all the electricity you need from 56 solar panels, then you are using too much electricity. The solar panels and the battery bank will take care of that house all year.
Are you a truth seeker? Search for "Truth Contest" in Google and click the 1st result, then click on "The Present" to open it. What it says will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people.
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was captured on film. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is currently parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything...I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG contains the peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers" (use search words "Sam Zurick" & "BLOG"). THANKS!!
I Feel a Little Aprehensive about having hydrogen tanks so close to home.There is a gentleman who has posted here on You tube concerning his Corvette that he runs on hydrogen.He uses Hydride so as to keep everything safer as well as more compact..He clains that he could shoot through the tanks with armour piercing bullets,open the tanks with a chain saw or drop a lit cigarette in without danger.
WOW I can imagine how much this system cost. As always the devil is in the details and I am always leary when nobody will give you the true cost to build this system. What scares me is all the pumps and switches, where is the monitoring system?
Although it was experimental I know the initial outlay was quite steep. How long ago was this video first put up? I don't see a post date unless I am missing it. I would love to put this syetm in my home. Grats on a awesome project!
@fzeeshan - People with a little bit of common sense. It's one thing to make something like this work as an engineering project etc, however this is not something that is cost effective for the majority of homes, nor is it feasable. If you was to take this setup and do a cost breakdown, including maintenance and parts then you would find it very hard to compete with domestic energy. That said, i still like the idea that people are playing around with these things, learning from it etc.
@TheSpankymonkey - Ditto Spanky, I work in the gas industry, however I believe in energy efficiency be it fossil, solar, geo therm, hydro dams,etc. Cost effectiveness is the key. My neighbor spent 20k on a geo therm unit when he built his home not including the closed loop well hole which was 3k. Another family acquaintance installed a wind turbine for 35k. Both now realize that they could have bought a lot of cellulose or spray foam insulation and fossil fuels for a much cheaper investment.
I'm interested to know how the geo-thermal works in the winter months... obviously you wont be using the cooling aspect of the system so where do you get the heat for the water tanks? or are you running the system in reverse?
id love to talk with this man to find out how he is vacuming the propane tanks to fill with HH and then to ask how much LPM his hho genarator is making and then when using is HH into his hh power cell what is his output volts and watts DC. im thinking of doing pretty much same thing but i have ran into problems with hho genarator pressure to fill propane take because low pressure from genarator i havent made a hho to power cell yet ao i need to know how much power hes making from the hho
@jonathanwe I hope you are not confusing browns gas with hydrogen their is a huge difference hydrogen is quite stable but hho is not . Also I seem to recall that these tanks are not pressurised but if you want to go down that road water pressure alone inputed to your electroliser is commonly used.
Put me on your mailing list. Once you can mass produce this I would be interested in buying it and if possible to sell back to power companies. It seems like it would pay for itself fast. You the man!
Congrats on a fantastic solution. Do you have documentation so others can build one like this? I don't see hydrogen tanks to be anymore dangerous than propane. Best of luck
anyone who states that this house has a hydrogen bomb in the back yard knows nothing about H-bombs... The H-bomb is not just comprised of exploding hydrogen (which by the way is harder to make happen than exploding a gas station) An H- bomb still needs a radioactive element like plutonium. People always bring up the Hindenburg as a display of how dangerous hydrogen is, in fact it is more likely that the burning of the airship was because of the material that the chamber was made of.
@greywolf210 hydrogen gas is explosive. when 10000 gallons of high pressure hydrogen catch fire and explode in your back yard it may not be nuclear but that, sir, is a hydrogen bomb. i work on a nuclear submarine and i run a machine called an automated electrolytic oxygen generator which separates hydrogen and oxygen with electrolysis much like we see here. i assure you. hydrogen is no joke. good idea but i say bury the tanks.
@superlibster Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying that hydrogen isn't dangerous, all I was saying is that there are some major scare tactics going on when talking about dealing with hydrogen. It will explode, it's just that gasoline has a lower heat capacity, which means that it will explode at a lower temperature than hydrogen. Gasoline is more volatile than hydrogen, yet we consider gasoline a "safe" energy source. I completely agree that the tanks should be buried for added safety.
@greywolf210 hydrogen gas is explosive. when 10000 gallons of high pressure hydrogen catch fire and explode in your back yard it may not be nuclear but that, sir, is a hydrogen bomb. i work on a nuclear submarine and i run a machine called an automated electrolytic oxygen generator which separates hydrogen and oxygen with electrolysis much like we see here. i assure you. hydrogen is no joke. good idea but i say bury the tanks.
It's not so green energy as it might look to me, cost of resources to build this instalations and its spare parts, maintenence for millions houses is far less ecologicaly than big industrial turbines or even atomic reactors... I know that many like indepnedance but its not way to go unfortunately.
There are many ways to make homes more energy efficient. This man seems to have covered most of them. But he didn't disclose all energy losses. Believe it or not, there are still more ways to conserve wasted energy in the home.
And yes, it costs money of course.
Oil companies are the only reason systems like this cost so much. If it were cheep, everybody would be doing it. And crude would be no more.
how much for a good set of solar panels today's price.
My moms metal barn has perfect exposure all day in mobile Alabama, east to west 1.5/12 ridge line same size as 0:44 yours, less pitch, meaning roof slope,
On another note I count 68 solar panels, if each is producing 180w a typical figure for your average solar panel, then that adds up to 12KW of output.....Why would you even bother turning any of it to hydrogen? except for running the car he could be pumping most of that back into the grid and receiving a solid amount of cash from the power company.
@weetiewildrose hydrogen and HHO are much cheaper than a gas/ propane alternative. wonder how much them ten 1000 gallon tanks would cost to fill up with lpg or propane?. plus HHO is cleaner and non FOSSIL. which for me is a big plus for me you and him. there you go .....good point though. nice question. check out my favourites for tesla, stan meyers, cold fusion and green DIY links. peace
@weetiewildrose #1 You're calculating 12KW/h in the wrong manner. The 180w is from solar panels producing DC current (usually 36v), that's not 180w @120v AC! You need to get more info on solar ;) #2 Hydrogen is stored to be used in winter or when bad weather won't allow solar to produce enough to support the house. Of course because the house was bilt with high efficiency Mike only needs 2KW/h for it. Even then, in winter you will need a fuel cell to power and heat the house.
@freakqnc #1 I am not calculating anything wrong AC watts will be DC watts multiplied by the efficiency of the Inverter used, lets say 95% would equal 11.4KW only a minor drop, You can look that up if you like....#2 If the house is such high efficiency then I'm sure 11.4KW of solar panels would still put out enough power in lower light levels.
@weetiewildrose I'm guessing the house isn't insulated, which would negate the need for about 90% of the power used to heat/cool it. The lengths people will go to, to avoid insulation amazes me. Batts in the ceiling, double glazing for the windows. Proper seals. Walls might need another layer, but yeah.
@weetiewildrose He is storing hydrogen for later use. I believe the point of his project is energy independence especially from foreign oil. I'm glad he is doing it..rather then blowing his money on foriegn oil to travel and nuclear power. I don't think he is trying to make money here. Looks like he has plenty now. Maybe in the future this system could be commercialized to benefit humanity.
I hope so too, but hardly see it happening within our lifetime, which sucks! what he has done, is possible and everybody can do it. This is the definition of freedom, and unfortunately the greed of the rich and secret societies will be the reason for holding a tight grip on humanity to not let it break free (maybe for centuries). I would dedicate my life to this kind of project, and just working to build it and see it come together, I'd surely be the happiest man in the world.
Wouldn't the storage density of a metal hydride tank be far superior to these propane tanks? I have seen 1000L Metal Hydride tanks that are 12 inches long and 4 inches in diameter.
This video is the most amazing story of hydrogen I've ever seen. How many millions of investment did the system cost? Will you list the components and costs to build a similar system
@macross101292 Hey, have you ever tried? Do you have a proof of concept or experiment showing what you say he would be better off? If you do please share a link! Thanks! ;)
@RedMarineNex 240 is not uncommon for high power utilities... I live in a condo and we have a 240v line for the Thru-wall AC systems and HVAC units installed in the apartments. Sadly no geothermal here.
@freakqnc thanks for the info. Last time I was in the states (Cali) all the appliances were 110 and it was 110 at the wall sockets also. Noticed the difference in the power tools, specially the drills.
UNDERSTAND THIS IS 10 YEAR OLD DESIGN..ITS WAY CHEAPER AND LOLIGHT SOLAR PANELS AND LOW NOISE WIND GENERATORS ALONG WITH FAR CHAEAPER FUEL CELS..IF U DONT LIVE IN THE SNOW THIS COULD BE DONE FOR WAY UNDER 50K UNLESS U WANT THE HYDROGEN TANKS AND TOO RUN YOUR CAR ON STORED HYDROGEN..ACTUALLY THE HYDROGEN IS FAR CHEAPER TOO MAKE NOW ALSO THAN THE CEL TOWER CEL HE BOUGHT...ITS GETTING BETTER AND CHEAPER THANKS TOO GREAT MINDS LIKE HIS!
UNDERSTAND THIS IS 10 YEAR OLD DESIGN..ITS WAY CHEAPER AND LOLIGHT SOLAR PANELS AND LOW NOISE WIND GENERATORS ALONG WITH FAR CHAEAPER FUEL CELS..IF U DONT LIVE IN THE SNOW THIS COULD BE DONE FOR WAY UNDER 50K UNLESS U WANT THE HYDROGEN TANKS AND TOO RUN YOUR CAR ON STORED HYDROGEN..ACTUALLY THE HYDROGEN IS FAR CHEAPER TOO MAKE NOW ALSO THAN THE CEL TOWER CEL HE BOUGHT...ITS GETTING BETTER AND CHEAPER THANKS TOO GREAT MINDS LIKE HIS!
his set up is roughly around 250,000$, ask yourself if you can afford this. Although it is a great setup if it was 50k this is simply not going to solve the energy crisis when we have an even bigger financial crisis at our homes everyday.
Hmmm, a nice low tech solution to our problems? I once worked for a Vancouver, BC, Canada distributor of Swagelok fittings (seen in this clip) and later a manufacturer and distributor of HVAC (Heating, Ventilating and Air Conditioning) equipment. That is what I did for a living, but felt it was the wrong track and built a passive solar, conserver home on 9 acres at Victoria, B.C. that is now part of a residential development...
absolutely - a solarH system that one of my professors is working on collects both oxygen and hydrogen - they're both extremely useful elements. also, the system he is working on is a smaller, single unit about the size of a solar hot water collector panel. much less cumbersome. unfortunately, these systems are all about <1% efficient. ideally, we would be aiming for 10% efficiency. in terms of cost, we're looking at the cost of these systems reaching parity with petrol around 2020.
I think it's better to put those tanks underground, isn't it?
And maybe this hydrogen production should be out of town, and the electricity should also be produced there, and only transported to the homes. Something like SOLAR-HYDROGEN CENTRAL
True and false, @zensorship. Technology cost is constantly decreasing and efficiency is increasing.
It is still plenty of people who have the luck of living in their own house and are rich enough to buy.
The problem is they think oil is forever as well as their purchase power. Thus, they prefer spending in big cars or other expensive goods rather than spending in smart technologies to support a better environmnent and secure an autonomous energy/water supply.
Too many complications 4 me and money,i like something more simple,no batteries,no dangers tanks system -just solar panels to power the house with grid tie inverter's - the rest of the power back to the power company to be credit at night or later during those 3 month...now i am really impress with your setup,just that is too expense 4 me......thank you 4 the video is fabulous...
Just want to say hi, I'll try and be you someday just seems tuff.. I've got one solar panel complete and my folks don't want it going into there power supply affraid of after shock I guess it produces like 19-24 volts I'm so happy can't wait to see it working something nice video..
His wealth has nothing to do with it. He is simply trying to educate. Eventually this will be affordable to everyone. Storage can be minimized too. Think about solar shingles and solid storage for the hydrogen.
@SpeedMetal4635 The price of the panels varies. I have a panel that cost me $18. It doesn't produce much power though. 3 watts, 12volts, 170 mA. Higher wattage panels will cost more. Enough solar panels to supply an average homes power needs would cost thousands of dollars. But, you don't have to power your whole home to take advantage of solar power. I am starting with a small setup. Just to have some power during a power outage so I can run an LED light and charge my phone.
Not to be the kill joy, but the purpose of displaying renewable energy in practical use is to show you anyone can do it. But the fact is, your system isn't a retro fit, it was very expensive and put together by various grants and donations.
Anyone with a brain know's its "possible" to live off the grid, making that a possibility for the average person without destroying thier budget or life is the trick
@Labyrynth1000 Lab, the reason it costs so much money to make this system, is because the govt doesnt want you to do it. neither does industry. they would be out of work. if you really wanna know how cheap and easy it can be to go 'off the grid' look up a gasifier engine
This is a great accomplishment.. I am working on producing my own hydrogen. Dc is the way to go. And the world is made of carbon.. I am begining to have doubts about solar energy.. We need a leap in solar technology..
It is very impressive......................but soo much up front cost, so much up front carbon. But atleast you've shown it all in one place.Great to see..
think what you have done is great , although i agree that its outside most peoples budget, only through development will this kind of thing get cost effective and do we really know the cost of fossil fuels? keep going and enjoy your clean renewable energy! if i could i would.
Yes it maybe too expensive most people, but he did it now it should be easier to find away to make it less expensive. The mentality I seeing from the other comments is why do it . That same mentality that has solar 30 years behind. We could just wait for the chinese to develop it an buy it from them.
I work for a high end custom home builder in the bay area of CA. We have done the geo thermal and a lot homes with solar panels. We were looking into the hydrogen fuel cells and found that it would take 15-20 years at current costs to get your money back from the system once... mind you that the overall benefit is that it isn't incurring any costs except maint. unlike standard systems that need maint. and power as well. No one has jumped for it yet, but perhaps this video will help.
Hi Mike, good work, if Solar Cells were 100% efficiant, the world would use them on every home, UK is not as bright for the sun power as your country I think
I guess the cost of your system runs to many 10,000's $ far from the reach of normal DIY projects, but for sure your system, is one which we all dream of having, wish I had the land and money for such a system at my home, but I would recon maybe it would have cost me £100,000 at least !
the very principle of unhooking from the grid and being self sufficient is the ultimate goal for ANYONE who doesnt FEEL THE NEED FOR FOSSIL FUELS.
technology is constantly improving and WILL DEFINATELY BECOME MORE AFFORDABLE.
sea levels are gonna rise worldwide. yet DESALINATION is still very expensive simply because the NRG used is . GEO THERMAL heat is relativly untouched. i drink 2 the future.
@zensorship We have had this technology in Europe for years, I studied it for my Engineering degree. I designed a system to produce hydrogen from a wind turbine. The economics just don't add up. This guy is like a bloke who owns a collection of Ferrari's, he does it because he has the money and he likes the cars. Most every day people just can't afford it. Go and look up the cost of a UPS, electrolyser, inverters and PV. If this technology is not affordable by the masses it is nothing.
The solar is. Even without the hydrogen storage system he would be basically set for the whole summer, with no need to access the power grid. You can just pump the eccess power back into the grid if you so choose, and that would be detracted from your bill. The only real investment are the solar panels and in the long run they are really worth it.
@johnlane1001 It has to start somewhere. Some one has to have a little vision and see what could be and not what is right now. When cars first came out they were a luxury item that could only be afforded by rich people. It took the vision of Henry Ford, and others to make cars affordable to everyone.
@johnlane1001 Yes you are right, but now we all know it can be done. Including people like I who am not as smart as you because I don’t have an engineering degree. Now we can work on it instead of giving up like you did you arrogant quitter.
True and false, @zensorship. Technology cost is constantly decreasing and efficiency is increasing.
It is still plenty of people who have the luck of living in their own house and are rich enough to buy.
The problem is they think oil is forever as well as their purchase power. Thus, they prefer spending in big cars or other expensive goods rather than spending in smart technologies to support a better environmnent and secure an autonomous energy/water supply.
@johnlane1001 you are so correct. There is so much of this blarney floating around to make people say 'if only". Well if wishes were shit we would all be up to our ears in shit. So thank the lord he did not do that. ( make wishes out of shit) just the property he owns would bury most of us with the taxes he pays.
@johnlane1001 you are so correct. There is so much of this blarney floating around to make people say 'if only". Well if wishes were shit we would all be up to our ears in s**t. So thank the lord he did not do that. ( make wishes out of s**t) just the property he owns, would bury most of us with the taxes he pays.
All of that hydrogen has the same potential energy as 40 gallons of gas? Did I hear that correctly? That looks like a shit ton of hydrogen to me.
belac46 2 days ago
Awesome video man very inspiring, true american innovators
crespok200 5 days ago
He should use half the tanks for oxygen storage, and combine the hydrogen and oxygen during combustion. He would generate much more power that way.
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pilgrim15801 2 weeks ago
@iwashere339 you just threatened me on a public communication device , which is a felony ! I have your I.P. address and have turned it over to the authorities
pilgrim15801 2 weeks ago
This is cool, but is there a rule on Youtube or perhaps a federal requirement that all videos contain at least some distracting crappy music? I can't seem to find out for sure, I created a video that has no music at all and I am afraid it will be banned.
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pilgrim15801 2 weeks ago
@pilgrim15801 Thats per hour, not per month. 1kwh says that system can produce 1kw every hour. It does not mean it can only produce 1kw total.
archmayge 5 days ago
@archmayge Thanks , I really screwed that whole thought up, I was thinking bbf22000 meant 3 to 4 kw per day, not per hour
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@pilgrim15801 As he mentions, that hydrogen would fit in two normal barbecue size tanks, but his township won't let him compress his own hydrogen and store it in a residential area. Hydrogen is very safe but quite misunderstood. Maybe it's because hydrogen has a nearly invisible flame they are afraid firefighters would walk into it and wouldn't know until it was too late.
w1dhs 1 week ago
@pilgrim15801 There is no purpose in storing the oxygen. The atmosphere stores it for him, without requiring more wasted energy to compress it. When he burns the hydrogen he just takes the oxygen right back out of the atmosphere.
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@pilgrim15801 Oxygen is not a fuel. All fuels do not burn without oxygen. I do understand that compressed oxygen is valuable, and can be used for welding. In this instance, the cost in energy, is not worth it. the purpose is to power his house, not power a compressed oxygen factory. It takes energy to compress the gas. By venting it into the atmosphere he is now "storing" oxygen for later use, without requiring additional energy to compress it.
archmayge 5 days ago
There is no sound when strizky speaks. So you tube do not want us to know how to get rid of big power robbery.
paunocudatuamae 3 weeks ago
Interesting, everything is quite big, technology is progressing and you soon won't require as much space to do something like this.
shaynek788 3 weeks ago
This is what i m talking about being of plumbing backround geothermo is whats going on today then add solar then add windpower? Then hydrogen yours is one of the best set ups i have seen now just do it in southern ca and get rid of heat and ac and you have my perfect life if i live that long thanks for the grrat video
bbf22000 1 month ago
looking at the stuff u invested there i was just wondering, did u win the lottary? and how many times did it take to cover the bills?
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@eudaemonian did you watch the vid? it says he got grants from the utility company and donations from companies to perform an experiment to see if this was possible to do this at a private residence
pilgrim15801 2 weeks ago
nice work man, you are awesome.
ochgottnochma 1 month ago 2
All this shit, just to maintain our standard of living. It cost more to build this off grid system then to just pay your utility bill
iwashere339 1 month ago
@iwashere339 no really?did you gather that all by yourself ? Your a real rocket scientist aren't you . it's called being self reliant, now go cash your welfare check
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pilgrim15801 2 weeks ago
Just wondering but instead of exhausting the oxygen after electroysis, could you use it drive a pneumatic driven electric generator???
mailboxqwert 1 month ago
@mailboxqwert ohh dw about the idea its a closed loop system
mailboxqwert 1 month ago
This is excellent. Mike, do you think it is possible to remove the need of batteries?
ryn4181 1 month ago
@ryn4181 Battery technology is certainly lacking, a more sophisticated battery system could be converting the hydrogen gas back to electricity using a fuel cell. But storing hydrogen sucks even more
iwashere339 1 month ago
Cool idea. Completely academic. It's nice to know it CAN be done, but for the money spent to construct this system, you could have bought a lifetime of conventionally generated power.
digikill 1 month ago
@digikill Yeah, and for the money spent on the local waste water treatment plant, your town could pay for a lifetime of peasants hauling away poop and dumping it in the nearest river. Why try to have a clean environment when it's so much cheaper to pollute?
Tysto 1 month ago
He has done this with his mind not his bank account, mindset is all that makes matter what it is, he sees freedom by action, love to live this way by all means and you will. We are fully cabable of living and being free from the thought of having to work hard for something by simply replacing that thought with the thoughts HE thinks and by the example of HIS fruits. HE has seen this through and the path has been walked and created. I love you all :)
nebadon85 1 month ago
Just curious what was the estimated cost for this project and is it realistically affordabal for the average homeowner in the near future ?
WizzardTV1 1 month ago
I wish more people did what this guy does!
thebiggs1469 1 month ago
The sound is cut after 0:33 seconds and is coming back at 6:29! Why?
LgMorpheus01 1 month ago
B.P. dislike it :D
MrGamayer 2 months ago
If you can't get all the electricity you need from 56 solar panels, then you are using too much electricity. The solar panels and the battery bank will take care of that house all year.
BullittMcQueen1 2 months ago
Kool but you can make hydrogen and oxygen without electricity, see my videos.
stevensrd1 2 months ago
Well, if the technology is there but you are the only one who can make it work.
I call that Revolutionary.
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atomicheater 2 months ago
nice set up but not really revolutionary, the tech is about 15 yrs old
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An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was captured on film. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is currently parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything...I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG contains the peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers" (use search words "Sam Zurick" & "BLOG"). THANKS!!
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@Roadjournal Why are you not using Metal Hydride storage tanks
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eelnitsud 3 months ago
I Feel a Little Aprehensive about having hydrogen tanks so close to home.There is a gentleman who has posted here on You tube concerning his Corvette that he runs on hydrogen.He uses Hydride so as to keep everything safer as well as more compact..He clains that he could shoot through the tanks with armour piercing bullets,open the tanks with a chain saw or drop a lit cigarette in without danger.
GEORGE3573 3 months ago
@GEORGE3573 Yeah I think his tanks and setup are actually a good distance from his home.
asckee 2 months ago
@GEORGE3573 Well, you cant spill it and it is actually less volatile than liquid propane in the same amounts.
fxrocket 2 months ago
very cheap
miguffx 3 months ago
saying that this guy is smart is an understatement, simply genius!!!
chris03653837 3 months ago
Very Cool Project, I Dig It.
SmallWindTurbines 3 months ago
well this guy just created the future power for our homes
TheStrategyGuy101 4 months ago
Awesome but it's too bad not everybody has the cash to be able to do all that.
bradbeckett 4 months ago
Pure Genius!
NoEpithet 4 months ago
Wow! Beautiful set-up man! Good Job! What is your background?
maxwerx440 4 months ago
That set up must cost a packet. Excellent as it may be. We need to fill some deserts with panels that would power the world.
bicnarok 4 months ago
We have the technology, all we need now is motivation and guidance.
stalwart911 4 months ago
i bet this system was well over 10 million including labor and cost of donations
NOBOX7 5 months ago
WOW I can imagine how much this system cost. As always the devil is in the details and I am always leary when nobody will give you the true cost to build this system. What scares me is all the pumps and switches, where is the monitoring system?
Although it was experimental I know the initial outlay was quite steep. How long ago was this video first put up? I don't see a post date unless I am missing it. I would love to put this syetm in my home. Grats on a awesome project!
NetNinja01 5 months ago
20 oil and utility companies watched this video. Who else would dislike this video
fzeeshan 5 months ago
@fzeeshan - People with a little bit of common sense. It's one thing to make something like this work as an engineering project etc, however this is not something that is cost effective for the majority of homes, nor is it feasable. If you was to take this setup and do a cost breakdown, including maintenance and parts then you would find it very hard to compete with domestic energy. That said, i still like the idea that people are playing around with these things, learning from it etc.
TheSpankymonkey 2 months ago
@TheSpankymonkey - Ditto Spanky, I work in the gas industry, however I believe in energy efficiency be it fossil, solar, geo therm, hydro dams,etc. Cost effectiveness is the key. My neighbor spent 20k on a geo therm unit when he built his home not including the closed loop well hole which was 3k. Another family acquaintance installed a wind turbine for 35k. Both now realize that they could have bought a lot of cellulose or spray foam insulation and fossil fuels for a much cheaper investment.
drumdude68 1 month ago
One word: AWESOME!
JimmyV2009 5 months ago
looks expensive
y0utUBeH8r 5 months ago
I'm interested to know how the geo-thermal works in the winter months... obviously you wont be using the cooling aspect of the system so where do you get the heat for the water tanks? or are you running the system in reverse?
twistedsymphony 5 months ago
id love to talk with this man to find out how he is vacuming the propane tanks to fill with HH and then to ask how much LPM his hho genarator is making and then when using is HH into his hh power cell what is his output volts and watts DC. im thinking of doing pretty much same thing but i have ran into problems with hho genarator pressure to fill propane take because low pressure from genarator i havent made a hho to power cell yet ao i need to know how much power hes making from the hho
jonathanwe 5 months ago
@jonathanwe I hope you are not confusing browns gas with hydrogen their is a huge difference hydrogen is quite stable but hho is not . Also I seem to recall that these tanks are not pressurised but if you want to go down that road water pressure alone inputed to your electroliser is commonly used.
TheJimmax 2 months ago
this is exactly what i wish I had money and smarts to do. I believe 100% in solar and hydrogen
sbeer6er 5 months ago
Put me on your mailing list. Once you can mass produce this I would be interested in buying it and if possible to sell back to power companies. It seems like it would pay for itself fast. You the man!
jecflyer172 5 months ago
Congrats on a fantastic solution. Do you have documentation so others can build one like this? I don't see hydrogen tanks to be anymore dangerous than propane. Best of luck
cejenprime 5 months ago
20 people work for an oil company
flearock1 5 months ago 14
i want to ask michae
q1:how i can separate hydrogen and oxygen in the hho cell
q2:how mutch the cell produce hydrogen in aminite
q3:this question is very very important how i can pump or comprissed the hydrogen gas in the tanks
please iam waiting the answeres on the addres
nasserazam99@yahoo.com
and i want to know the email of michael strizki
thanks
nasserazam99 5 months ago
anyone who states that this house has a hydrogen bomb in the back yard knows nothing about H-bombs... The H-bomb is not just comprised of exploding hydrogen (which by the way is harder to make happen than exploding a gas station) An H- bomb still needs a radioactive element like plutonium. People always bring up the Hindenburg as a display of how dangerous hydrogen is, in fact it is more likely that the burning of the airship was because of the material that the chamber was made of.
greywolf210 5 months ago 4
@greywolf210 hydrogen gas is explosive. when 10000 gallons of high pressure hydrogen catch fire and explode in your back yard it may not be nuclear but that, sir, is a hydrogen bomb. i work on a nuclear submarine and i run a machine called an automated electrolytic oxygen generator which separates hydrogen and oxygen with electrolysis much like we see here. i assure you. hydrogen is no joke. good idea but i say bury the tanks.
superlibster 5 months ago
@superlibster Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying that hydrogen isn't dangerous, all I was saying is that there are some major scare tactics going on when talking about dealing with hydrogen. It will explode, it's just that gasoline has a lower heat capacity, which means that it will explode at a lower temperature than hydrogen. Gasoline is more volatile than hydrogen, yet we consider gasoline a "safe" energy source. I completely agree that the tanks should be buried for added safety.
greywolf210 5 months ago
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@greywolf210 hydrogen gas is explosive. when 10000 gallons of high pressure hydrogen catch fire and explode in your back yard it may not be nuclear but that, sir, is a hydrogen bomb. i work on a nuclear submarine and i run a machine called an automated electrolytic oxygen generator which separates hydrogen and oxygen with electrolysis much like we see here. i assure you. hydrogen is no joke. good idea but i say bury the tanks.
superlibster 5 months ago
good but A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS ! :D You have a kind of Atomic Bomb in the backyard !
mptrax 6 months ago
@mptrax I think u meant a HYDROGEN Bomb! /wink wink... hehehe
mantis777A 6 months ago
@mantis777A yeah :D
mptrax 6 months ago
I'd love to build homes ideantical to yours for the public.
webworkhere 6 months ago
It's not so green energy as it might look to me, cost of resources to build this instalations and its spare parts, maintenence for millions houses is far less ecologicaly than big industrial turbines or even atomic reactors... I know that many like indepnedance but its not way to go unfortunately.
Bocheno 6 months ago
I'm trying to contact mike and his company for a retro fit. I'm having no luck. Anyone know why?
imboxster 6 months ago
yes, wouldnt it be nice if we were all rich like this man so we could play with free energy........................
bearboneskentuck 6 months ago
wow that is some major money spent.
FreindlyMantis 6 months ago
This is what I've been dreaming of...!!... awesome display of dedication...!!!
leisryan 6 months ago
There are many ways to make homes more energy efficient. This man seems to have covered most of them. But he didn't disclose all energy losses. Believe it or not, there are still more ways to conserve wasted energy in the home.
And yes, it costs money of course.
Oil companies are the only reason systems like this cost so much. If it were cheep, everybody would be doing it. And crude would be no more.
a2zhandi 6 months ago
R19 for walls and R38 for roof is not super insulation is normal at best but I must admit not sure the standard in the place this is build.
Also see a lot of people here concerned with the cost of such installation the problem is that people want huge houses and inefficient appliances.
What I see in this video can be used for about 10 energy efficient homes.
electrodacus 6 months ago
talk about living the dream,,
how much for a good set of solar panels today's price.
My moms metal barn has perfect exposure all day in mobile Alabama, east to west 1.5/12 ridge line same size as 0:44 yours, less pitch, meaning roof slope,
which I'm sure you know, was for the readers
rclark23 7 months ago
On another note I count 68 solar panels, if each is producing 180w a typical figure for your average solar panel, then that adds up to 12KW of output.....Why would you even bother turning any of it to hydrogen? except for running the car he could be pumping most of that back into the grid and receiving a solid amount of cash from the power company.
weetiewildrose 7 months ago
@weetiewildrose hydrogen and HHO are much cheaper than a gas/ propane alternative. wonder how much them ten 1000 gallon tanks would cost to fill up with lpg or propane?. plus HHO is cleaner and non FOSSIL. which for me is a big plus for me you and him. there you go .....good point though. nice question. check out my favourites for tesla, stan meyers, cold fusion and green DIY links. peace
neiallswheel 7 months ago
@weetiewildrose #1 You're calculating 12KW/h in the wrong manner. The 180w is from solar panels producing DC current (usually 36v), that's not 180w @120v AC! You need to get more info on solar ;) #2 Hydrogen is stored to be used in winter or when bad weather won't allow solar to produce enough to support the house. Of course because the house was bilt with high efficiency Mike only needs 2KW/h for it. Even then, in winter you will need a fuel cell to power and heat the house.
freakqnc 7 months ago
@freakqnc #1 I am not calculating anything wrong AC watts will be DC watts multiplied by the efficiency of the Inverter used, lets say 95% would equal 11.4KW only a minor drop, You can look that up if you like....#2 If the house is such high efficiency then I'm sure 11.4KW of solar panels would still put out enough power in lower light levels.
weetiewildrose 7 months ago
@weetiewildrose I'm guessing the house isn't insulated, which would negate the need for about 90% of the power used to heat/cool it. The lengths people will go to, to avoid insulation amazes me. Batts in the ceiling, double glazing for the windows. Proper seals. Walls might need another layer, but yeah.
RedMarineNex 7 months ago
@weetiewildrose He is storing hydrogen for later use. I believe the point of his project is energy independence especially from foreign oil. I'm glad he is doing it..rather then blowing his money on foriegn oil to travel and nuclear power. I don't think he is trying to make money here. Looks like he has plenty now. Maybe in the future this system could be commercialized to benefit humanity.
pinoyfourlyf 7 months ago 11
@pinoyfourlyf
I hope so too, but hardly see it happening within our lifetime, which sucks! what he has done, is possible and everybody can do it. This is the definition of freedom, and unfortunately the greed of the rich and secret societies will be the reason for holding a tight grip on humanity to not let it break free (maybe for centuries). I would dedicate my life to this kind of project, and just working to build it and see it come together, I'd surely be the happiest man in the world.
0rioni 1 month ago
Wouldn't the storage density of a metal hydride tank be far superior to these propane tanks? I have seen 1000L Metal Hydride tanks that are 12 inches long and 4 inches in diameter.
weetiewildrose 7 months ago
This video is the most amazing story of hydrogen I've ever seen. How many millions of investment did the system cost? Will you list the components and costs to build a similar system
davepamn 7 months ago
This video is the most amazing story of hydrogen I've ever seen. How many millions of investment did the system cost?
davepamn 7 months ago
he would do better to keep the o2 and burn it with the h then use a ceramic anode to produce a large bts and produce steam
macross101292 7 months ago
@macross101292 Hey, have you ever tried? Do you have a proof of concept or experiment showing what you say he would be better off? If you do please share a link! Thanks! ;)
freakqnc 7 months ago
240V? I thought you fellas stateside were on 110?
RedMarineNex 7 months ago
@RedMarineNex 240 is not uncommon for high power utilities... I live in a condo and we have a 240v line for the Thru-wall AC systems and HVAC units installed in the apartments. Sadly no geothermal here.
freakqnc 7 months ago
@freakqnc thanks for the info. Last time I was in the states (Cali) all the appliances were 110 and it was 110 at the wall sockets also. Noticed the difference in the power tools, specially the drills.
RedMarineNex 7 months ago
@RedMarineNex We got both newb.
pinoyfourlyf 7 months ago
@pinoyfourlyf Schweet man. Thats made of win.
RedMarineNex 7 months ago
Great work very forward thinking but i dont understand how you could get enough amps from a bank of batteries to run your home???
chrisb000 8 months ago
Awesome couldn't have done better myself. Thanks for that. Great work.
maryjane123rd 8 months ago
does the car run on hydrogen or electric?
fawnication 8 months ago
cost more than the electricity bill, this is not economical
builderfun 8 months ago
Remember to use a studio mic next time!!
rdavm 8 months ago
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UNDERSTAND THIS IS 10 YEAR OLD DESIGN..ITS WAY CHEAPER AND LOLIGHT SOLAR PANELS AND LOW NOISE WIND GENERATORS ALONG WITH FAR CHAEAPER FUEL CELS..IF U DONT LIVE IN THE SNOW THIS COULD BE DONE FOR WAY UNDER 50K UNLESS U WANT THE HYDROGEN TANKS AND TOO RUN YOUR CAR ON STORED HYDROGEN..ACTUALLY THE HYDROGEN IS FAR CHEAPER TOO MAKE NOW ALSO THAN THE CEL TOWER CEL HE BOUGHT...ITS GETTING BETTER AND CHEAPER THANKS TOO GREAT MINDS LIKE HIS!
michaelmortenson 8 months ago
UNDERSTAND THIS IS 10 YEAR OLD DESIGN..ITS WAY CHEAPER AND LOLIGHT SOLAR PANELS AND LOW NOISE WIND GENERATORS ALONG WITH FAR CHAEAPER FUEL CELS..IF U DONT LIVE IN THE SNOW THIS COULD BE DONE FOR WAY UNDER 50K UNLESS U WANT THE HYDROGEN TANKS AND TOO RUN YOUR CAR ON STORED HYDROGEN..ACTUALLY THE HYDROGEN IS FAR CHEAPER TOO MAKE NOW ALSO THAN THE CEL TOWER CEL HE BOUGHT...ITS GETTING BETTER AND CHEAPER THANKS TOO GREAT MINDS LIKE HIS!
michaelmortenson 8 months ago
his set up is roughly around 250,000$, ask yourself if you can afford this. Although it is a great setup if it was 50k this is simply not going to solve the energy crisis when we have an even bigger financial crisis at our homes everyday.
engagedakillamc 8 months ago
All that stored Hydrogen is only equivalent to 40 gallons of petrol?
Itsmeeman1 8 months ago
@Itsmeeman1 per tank
Kahur2007 8 months ago
what is the the total investment?
MrBeav62 9 months ago
Go gas, go BOOOM!
DoItYourselfGuy 9 months ago
Hmmm, a nice low tech solution to our problems? I once worked for a Vancouver, BC, Canada distributor of Swagelok fittings (seen in this clip) and later a manufacturer and distributor of HVAC (Heating, Ventilating and Air Conditioning) equipment. That is what I did for a living, but felt it was the wrong track and built a passive solar, conserver home on 9 acres at Victoria, B.C. that is now part of a residential development...
DoItYourselfGuy 9 months ago
The dude is surely wasting that pure oxygen! it's energy
bishopdante 9 months ago
@bishopdante
absolutely - a solarH system that one of my professors is working on collects both oxygen and hydrogen - they're both extremely useful elements. also, the system he is working on is a smaller, single unit about the size of a solar hot water collector panel. much less cumbersome. unfortunately, these systems are all about <1% efficient. ideally, we would be aiming for 10% efficiency. in terms of cost, we're looking at the cost of these systems reaching parity with petrol around 2020.
kickyourmum 8 months ago
oh i see.. funding was assisted by taxpayers.. great.
razblack 9 months ago
@razblack which i am glad to pay for.
pinoyfourlyf 7 months ago
looks expensive, and a 24/7 maintenance nightmare.... i guess you gotta be rich to save money.
razblack 9 months ago
I think it's better to put those tanks underground, isn't it?
And maybe this hydrogen production should be out of town, and the electricity should also be produced there, and only transported to the homes. Something like SOLAR-HYDROGEN CENTRAL
Is there any project like that?
googl4ee 9 months ago
how much money do you have mate. I like it but thats my house cost there in your energy.
phattopia 9 months ago
True and false, @zensorship. Technology cost is constantly decreasing and efficiency is increasing.
It is still plenty of people who have the luck of living in their own house and are rich enough to buy.
The problem is they think oil is forever as well as their purchase power. Thus, they prefer spending in big cars or other expensive goods rather than spending in smart technologies to support a better environmnent and secure an autonomous energy/water supply.
mrultrasoul 10 months ago
like trojan horse
mrg00ddude 10 months ago
I understand, that it's almost impossible to storage the HHO ?
rintsik 10 months ago
Beautiful stuff. I am hoping to get a grid tied system with an electrolyser and a hydrogen storage tank for my Honda Clarity.
ryn4181 10 months ago
How much did you spend to install everything? I'm guessing no less than $300,000.
20YrBillionaire 10 months ago
@20YrBillionaire One of the other videos says $500,000. I don't remember which one.
string11 10 months ago
No more worrying about turning the lights off.
TheAmericanArm 10 months ago
Yeah, if uncle gov wants people to go green why not fork over the cash or vocher for Every house to have this set up...with no strings attached.
Government wants your green...and this is not the green the government has in mind...
TheAmericanArm 10 months ago
Man that to much crap!
coltbuntline 10 months ago
How long do your batteries last? I have a feeling this system will cost more then my electric bill for a life time twice.
SidneyBou 10 months ago
Too many complications 4 me and money,i like something more simple,no batteries,no dangers tanks system -just solar panels to power the house with grid tie inverter's - the rest of the power back to the power company to be credit at night or later during those 3 month...now i am really impress with your setup,just that is too expense 4 me......thank you 4 the video is fabulous...
harleyoyi 10 months ago
did you build the electrolizer ?
MrJimmytree23 10 months ago
wedid you build the electrolizer
MrJimmytree23 10 months ago
any one that dislikes this in a idiot!
420trystan 10 months ago
@420trystan or an oil corporatist
Poetamo 10 months ago
Just want to say hi, I'll try and be you someday just seems tuff.. I've got one solar panel complete and my folks don't want it going into there power supply affraid of after shock I guess it produces like 19-24 volts I'm so happy can't wait to see it working something nice video..
webworkhere 10 months ago
Man you are living my dream. Screw the overpriced do nothing power companies. More power to you.
scdarknight 10 months ago 23
His wealth has nothing to do with it. He is simply trying to educate. Eventually this will be affordable to everyone. Storage can be minimized too. Think about solar shingles and solid storage for the hydrogen.
fast406z 10 months ago
There is the outlay and you need a really big house with lots of ground.
yourcamden 11 months ago
Its funny how he neglects to mention the fact that he is a multimillionaire.
ke4uyp 11 months ago
we must to wait the chiana people to rezolve the panel price.oKi?
sebbej1 11 months ago
1 fotovoltaic panel costs 300dlls, this guy have panels in all the roof. the liberty is too expensive
SpeedMetal4635 11 months ago
@SpeedMetal4635 The price of the panels varies. I have a panel that cost me $18. It doesn't produce much power though. 3 watts, 12volts, 170 mA. Higher wattage panels will cost more. Enough solar panels to supply an average homes power needs would cost thousands of dollars. But, you don't have to power your whole home to take advantage of solar power. I am starting with a small setup. Just to have some power during a power outage so I can run an LED light and charge my phone.
purplemutantas 10 months ago
18 dislikes =brainless
DrPiterarnett 11 months ago
Not to be the kill joy, but the purpose of displaying renewable energy in practical use is to show you anyone can do it. But the fact is, your system isn't a retro fit, it was very expensive and put together by various grants and donations.
Anyone with a brain know's its "possible" to live off the grid, making that a possibility for the average person without destroying thier budget or life is the trick
Labyrynth1000 11 months ago
@Labyrynth1000 Lab, the reason it costs so much money to make this system, is because the govt doesnt want you to do it. neither does industry. they would be out of work. if you really wanna know how cheap and easy it can be to go 'off the grid' look up a gasifier engine
maineiacial 11 months ago
This is a great accomplishment.. I am working on producing my own hydrogen. Dc is the way to go. And the world is made of carbon.. I am begining to have doubts about solar energy.. We need a leap in solar technology..
Dam good job.
madmatt784 1 year ago
freaking amazing. If i ever get rich, im totally doing this to my home.
kahunakronik 1 year ago
Love it.... Whole 9 energy system...
aricuzzi 1 year ago
your my hero
MyM0STYLE 1 year ago
It is very impressive......................but soo much up front cost, so much up front carbon. But atleast you've shown it all in one place.Great to see..
magna59 1 year ago
How can I get something like this
fugi2002bx 1 year ago
@RobMonty248 well said, how many generations will have to clean up our mess!
TheJimmax 1 year ago
think what you have done is great , although i agree that its outside most peoples budget, only through development will this kind of thing get cost effective and do we really know the cost of fossil fuels? keep going and enjoy your clean renewable energy! if i could i would.
TheJimmax 1 year ago
wow what a dumbass, he could be SOO much more efficient if he used dc applainces!!!
FocusWithin 1 year ago
Yes it maybe too expensive most people, but he did it now it should be easier to find away to make it less expensive. The mentality I seeing from the other comments is why do it . That same mentality that has solar 30 years behind. We could just wait for the chinese to develop it an buy it from them.
trojanwitch 1 year ago
this is a kook ,
hookuspookus529 1 year ago
you will get your money back in about 200 years.i wiss you get to see it .sorry man but this is paranoia
lilimaria300 1 year ago
@lilimaria300 hey genious the objective isto make it popular and cheap and acessible for everyone.
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ilenejyty 1 year ago
I work for a high end custom home builder in the bay area of CA. We have done the geo thermal and a lot homes with solar panels. We were looking into the hydrogen fuel cells and found that it would take 15-20 years at current costs to get your money back from the system once... mind you that the overall benefit is that it isn't incurring any costs except maint. unlike standard systems that need maint. and power as well. No one has jumped for it yet, but perhaps this video will help.
Thank you!
2tallbrandon 1 year ago
Hi Mike, good work, if Solar Cells were 100% efficiant, the world would use them on every home, UK is not as bright for the sun power as your country I think
I guess the cost of your system runs to many 10,000's $ far from the reach of normal DIY projects, but for sure your system, is one which we all dream of having, wish I had the land and money for such a system at my home, but I would recon maybe it would have cost me £100,000 at least !
CoolMusicToMyEars 1 year ago
@CoolMusicToMyEars I THINK THAT 'THE UK IS NOT AS BRIGHT' is a trueism.
the very principle of unhooking from the grid and being self sufficient is the ultimate goal for ANYONE who doesnt FEEL THE NEED FOR FOSSIL FUELS.
technology is constantly improving and WILL DEFINATELY BECOME MORE AFFORDABLE.
sea levels are gonna rise worldwide. yet DESALINATION is still very expensive simply because the NRG used is . GEO THERMAL heat is relativly untouched. i drink 2 the future.
neiallswheel 1 year ago
@zensorship We have had this technology in Europe for years, I studied it for my Engineering degree. I designed a system to produce hydrogen from a wind turbine. The economics just don't add up. This guy is like a bloke who owns a collection of Ferrari's, he does it because he has the money and he likes the cars. Most every day people just can't afford it. Go and look up the cost of a UPS, electrolyser, inverters and PV. If this technology is not affordable by the masses it is nothing.
johnlane1001 1 year ago 11
@johnlane1001. Way to spoil our dreams
ElDiabloWhoppo 1 year ago
@johnlane1001 - this is the scary thing.
renewable energy is simply less abundant than what we're used to from fossil fuels.
I completely reject the idea that price signals will guide us toward some renewable utopia... the future is scarcity & population crash.
It may be the best form of solar power is... PLANTS which we already evolved symbiotically with.
walter0bz 1 year ago
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Smokofilomidanek53 10 months ago
@johnlane1001
The hydrogen thing is not the point though.
The solar is. Even without the hydrogen storage system he would be basically set for the whole summer, with no need to access the power grid. You can just pump the eccess power back into the grid if you so choose, and that would be detracted from your bill. The only real investment are the solar panels and in the long run they are really worth it.
Ovidius89 10 months ago
@johnlane1001 It has to start somewhere. Some one has to have a little vision and see what could be and not what is right now. When cars first came out they were a luxury item that could only be afforded by rich people. It took the vision of Henry Ford, and others to make cars affordable to everyone.
string11 10 months ago
@johnlane1001 Yes you are right, but now we all know it can be done. Including people like I who am not as smart as you because I don’t have an engineering degree. Now we can work on it instead of giving up like you did you arrogant quitter.
walkertongdee 10 months ago
True and false, @zensorship. Technology cost is constantly decreasing and efficiency is increasing.
It is still plenty of people who have the luck of living in their own house and are rich enough to buy.
The problem is they think oil is forever as well as their purchase power. Thus, they prefer spending in big cars or other expensive goods rather than spending in smart technologies to support a better environmnent and secure an autonomous energy/water supply.
mrultrasoul 10 months ago
@johnlane1001 you are so correct. There is so much of this blarney floating around to make people say 'if only". Well if wishes were shit we would all be up to our ears in shit. So thank the lord he did not do that. ( make wishes out of shit) just the property he owns would bury most of us with the taxes he pays.
JanLV09 10 months ago
@johnlane1001 you are so correct. There is so much of this blarney floating around to make people say 'if only". Well if wishes were shit we would all be up to our ears in s**t. So thank the lord he did not do that. ( make wishes out of s**t) just the property he owns, would bury most of us with the taxes he pays.
JanLV09 10 months ago