I think it is useless to use 5 combo points on SnD it takes a lot of time to get 5 combo points. I always use SnD with 1 combo point and when it wears off i just use one sinister strike SnD and back on eviscarate. It saves you alot of time, energy and you don't get any penalty by doing that. Tell me if I'm wrong about this but this is the way I do it.
I remember when blizz took out armor pen in cata and made rogues do 4 k sinisters down from 10-12 k. Went from top guild dps to under tanks for a week after that patch o.O
@Morfinclownen depends on what ur doing, aoe or single target. Assasination is pro single target dps, but combat is way way WAY better for aoe. sure u can spam fan of knives in assasination spec but it wont be the even half the dps u get in combat when u got the caps and stuff
Does SS automatically hit SnD or is that a macro, or Do I open with ambush, then AR and spam SS until I get 5 combo points, hit evicserate, or do I have to go in and hit SnD
sry to say bro but 5k dps is terrible for a 85 lol
and saying that blade furry changed "unfortunelty" is way off
its a huge upgrade because it stays on as long as u want which is awesome for trash mobs
when i go in dungeons with a big mob pull use blade furry and killing spree and u will be pulling 14k dps minimum and never use and dont use adrenalin rush unless ur low on energy or unless ur useing blade furry...
Hey i was wondering who video recording device you are using? Also, do you have to pay for it? Also your videos look very nice because of the HD. Do you upload it already in HD or does YouTube make it HD when uploaded? Thanks for the help =D!
Can anyone help me? it seems the better gear i get the lower my dps is getting lol Wtf am i doing wrong? I got 4300 agi 12000 ap 1100 hit 1500 mastery 1200 haste 850 crit.. My expertise is 200 6/6.. ilvl 357 Combat spec!
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft ok umm..on my rogue im combat too but when i dps in all them cata dungeons and i do EVERYTHING ok anyway i do slice & dice (2 of the best rogue's on undermine told me to have that on at ALL TIMES!) so anyway i have that on and my dps goes up for like 1 sec but then falls you think you can help me ? plz.
Well Sense the patch Blade Flurry Is a turn off and on .
I find combat 900909999 Times better than assasination With mobs. Cause once you tricks the tank and pop blade flurry and killing spree Its like an instant 13k dps.
i've played most classes i ahve lvl 85 druid and 85 deathknight but i wwant to start playing rogue since its teh only class i havnt played yet and i wonder is combat rogue good for PvP in 3v3
@ralentor1 I still dont get people when they say this
If you read deadly poison it says applys blah blah blah when this reaches 5 stacks it causes your poison from your other weapon to apply thus making instant hitting a lot faster than deadly. using 2 instant would not be as good as you dont get that help off of deadly. :) so thats the reason why you were told to put instant in main hand and deadly in off hand :P
sorry to gripe but i cant see atall how you are only doing about 5.3k my combat rogue is currently just elegable cata heroics and is kickin out about 8.5k DPS, some boss fights such as Rajh in Halls of origination it will rise to about 9-10k depending if we have BL or hero.
21k crit, im not gana lie, not only did i jizz, but i think in mymind, i instantly took everything you sad here, and made my rouge 1000000x better thanks man
Even if you're going Ruptureless, Killing Spree and Revealing Strike's glyphs are better than Eviscerate. Also wtf are you doing starting in stealth and with Ambush?
Damn Combat got nurfed the fuck out! lol good thing i have all classes, i dont wana play rogues if i cant dps with combat, now that i think about it, i might even quit for a while, that hurt bad right there, they wana nurf us when assassination is the highest dps solotarget and preferred pvp spec?, and IF they wana bitch bout our aoe being too much, they nurfed the aoe too..... Dang blizzard, i was stuck on warriors being nurfed wotlk so i swich to my rogue now, they want me to switchback
Combat is in such a sad state, I'm barely hitting 11k dps in ICC while everyone else around me hits that point easily and only reason I'm even barely keeping up with dps is because I outgear people, it's so sad.
I use to pull 13k in icc25 now im lucky to do 8k..I dont know what to do. I stack all agi and i get out dps by a much lower gs rogue who is stacked with all crit WTF am i doing wrong? My gs is 6200 i got like 2400 agi and 6400 power...My main hand axe hits 225 dps and my off hits 250...I got out dps by a rogue using fucking daggers! LAME
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft rite now in WoW wat rogue spec do u suggest me to b.. october 20 2011 wat spec shuld i become and wat talent build shuld i use from wat website or shuld i create my own...thx and pce out
I know it won't make a huge difference overall, but why did you use instant poison over wounding poison. The loss of potent poisons to stack deadly quickly and the higher proc rate of wounding makes it the superior poison to use to get a higher dps even though it has a lower actual damage than instant.
You say to stay away from mastery but remember that Combat Rogues' mastery directly affects the Combat Potency talent. Try not to think of it for just the dps of the extra offhand swings themselves.
@Wilvan1809 Unfortunately, the proc rate is so low that you aren't gaining any noticable amounts of energy from the mastery. Those 35 procs generate 7 procs of potency, which means 105 energy. Each mastery point (179 mastery rating) gives you 1.25% extra MG proc chance. That means you are spending 179 mastery rating to gain 10 energy every 269 main hand swings. No thanks.
@symillickg Yeah, they need to buff the hell out of Rupture and the mastery. That will both bring Combat in line with other DPS specs, and make the rotation a tad more interesting. For the record, most dps specs have been revamped to be very interesting to play, even stuff like Frost Mage, Marks Hunter, Ret Pally, etc.
If u get glyph of revealing strike and glyph of rupture it far more out dps's eviscerate, also you want to pop ur cooldowns when u get ur deep insight for max damage, ur supposed to use wound poison... test it, it does a higher percentage, and lastly y did u ambush? opening with SS is much better. Im not in beta but i know the changes, i sustain 12k on dummies as combat atm at 80 and pull 21k on saurfang
If u get glyph of revealing strike and glyph of rupture it far more out dps's eviscerate, also you want to pop ur cooldowns when u get ur deep insight for max damage, ur supposed to use wound poison... test it, it does a higher percentage, and lastly y did u ambush? opening with SS is much better. Im not in beta but i know the changes, i sustain 12k on dummies as combat atm at 80 and pull 21k on saurfang. This is terribly wrong :(
This was very helpful, thank you! :)
XtReEeMe101 1 month ago
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WorldUfWarcraft 3 months ago
I think it is useless to use 5 combo points on SnD it takes a lot of time to get 5 combo points. I always use SnD with 1 combo point and when it wears off i just use one sinister strike SnD and back on eviscarate. It saves you alot of time, energy and you don't get any penalty by doing that. Tell me if I'm wrong about this but this is the way I do it.
KURAC777 3 months ago
So m8 my main dmg comes from my SnD normal hits?
SoulRipper66 3 months ago
Rogues have been broken since TBC came out. PRe-tbc rogues and horde only shamans was World of Warcraft. Now its just slimy goo made of shit.
Hrko1992 3 months ago
I remember when blizz took out armor pen in cata and made rogues do 4 k sinisters down from 10-12 k. Went from top guild dps to under tanks for a week after that patch o.O
dolerbom 7 months ago
im an 85 assassination rogue atm.. i leveled with combat and am looking into speccing back into it.
just had to comment. loved it when you killing spreed and go lost haha
G9Team 7 months ago
@Morfinclownen depends on what ur doing, aoe or single target. Assasination is pro single target dps, but combat is way way WAY better for aoe. sure u can spam fan of knives in assasination spec but it wont be the even half the dps u get in combat when u got the caps and stuff
FraenKanin 7 months ago
I got a rogue with 2,3k arena rating and now I will go for PvE so... Combat or Assasination? ; D
Morfinclownen 8 months ago
Does SS automatically hit SnD or is that a macro, or Do I open with ambush, then AR and spam SS until I get 5 combo points, hit evicserate, or do I have to go in and hit SnD
Dedric5 9 months ago
5k dps. horrid.
XxQuickCapxX 9 months ago
nice very helpful :) looks like I have some changes to make.
VelvetFoxxZero 9 months ago
sry to say bro but 5k dps is terrible for a 85 lol
and saying that blade furry changed "unfortunelty" is way off
its a huge upgrade because it stays on as long as u want which is awesome for trash mobs
when i go in dungeons with a big mob pull use blade furry and killing spree and u will be pulling 14k dps minimum and never use and dont use adrenalin rush unless ur low on energy or unless ur useing blade furry...
lol i laugh at ur crappy guide
italianstali01 9 months ago
@italianstali01 notice it was uploaded on October of last year, Blade Flurry still had cooldown back then
haha44467 9 months ago
@italianstali01 Fail
GEEZUSKitteh 8 months ago
@italianstali01 Fail lol
GEEZUSKitteh 8 months ago
@italianstali01 lol i laugh at ur crappy comment
hoodman12 7 months ago
Hey i was wondering who video recording device you are using? Also, do you have to pay for it? Also your videos look very nice because of the HD. Do you upload it already in HD or does YouTube make it HD when uploaded? Thanks for the help =D!
yortin 10 months ago
Can anyone help me? it seems the better gear i get the lower my dps is getting lol Wtf am i doing wrong? I got 4300 agi 12000 ap 1100 hit 1500 mastery 1200 haste 850 crit.. My expertise is 200 6/6.. ilvl 357 Combat spec!
Any help would be AWESOME! Thanks
Fox250R 11 months ago
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft ok umm..on my rogue im combat too but when i dps in all them cata dungeons and i do EVERYTHING ok anyway i do slice & dice (2 of the best rogue's on undermine told me to have that on at ALL TIMES!) so anyway i have that on and my dps goes up for like 1 sec but then falls you think you can help me ? plz.
Satansangel213 11 months ago
ima a assassination rouge and im new to rouges and wats good to stack haste crit resi
someguywithbeans 1 year ago
Well Sense the patch Blade Flurry Is a turn off and on .
I find combat 900909999 Times better than assasination With mobs. Cause once you tricks the tank and pop blade flurry and killing spree Its like an instant 13k dps.
CrazyColinp 1 year ago 6
@CrazyColinp im pulling 20k dps on mobs as assasin
majormom357 2 months ago
@majormom357 im pulling 27k+ as combat :)
SnusGamer95 2 months ago
i've played most classes i ahve lvl 85 druid and 85 deathknight but i wwant to start playing rogue since its teh only class i havnt played yet and i wonder is combat rogue good for PvP in 3v3
FlyingCarpetGaming 1 year ago
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Technoobershow 1 year ago
you are really idiot u can't use all combat abilities. get skill dude
MLove1991 1 year ago
Since Really Instant Poison dose more dmg then the Deadly poison Would it be good to duel instant Poison?
ralentor1 1 year ago
@ralentor1 I still dont get people when they say this
If you read deadly poison it says applys blah blah blah when this reaches 5 stacks it causes your poison from your other weapon to apply thus making instant hitting a lot faster than deadly. using 2 instant would not be as good as you dont get that help off of deadly. :) so thats the reason why you were told to put instant in main hand and deadly in off hand :P
GelEad1293 1 year ago
You should use wound poison instead instant one, it procs way more often !
TherealTonynsa 1 year ago
What's the PvP rotation of combat rogues ? Please
TheOneSammy 1 year ago
@TheOneSammy pvp is situational. do what you gotta do when you gotta do it :)
JoelyOlly321 1 year ago
jesus christ? why even bother making this video if u dont know how to play ?
lolasdtw0 1 year ago
Oh my god
TheOneSammy 1 year ago
lol don't watch a Youtube video on how to play rogues.
WhiteIceSC2 1 year ago
@WhiteIceSC2 I was doing 5k just like this guy, same spec. Then actually learned my class now I'm pulling 9k
If you really want to learn just message me.
WhiteIceSC2 1 year ago
whats better?!?!? Combat or muti?!?!
MLGthugnasty 1 year ago
Is rupture unesesery now? sry for spellin
crosstimpa1 1 year ago
@crosstimpa1 no, rupture is necessary this guy is a complete failure and dumbass when it comes to combat rogue
TheShortyjjb9 1 year ago
Who bother making a video of a DPS test, when you clearly have never played a rogue. 5.3k dps is really poor, even for a lvl 80, in HC gear.
Fantic1980 1 year ago
tu aime les deux points dans ton queue de gras?
fVc4FACE 1 year ago
lol! what did you say at 1:25? It sounded like coo de grog. It's prenounced "coop de grass" (spellings wrong i know but that''s how it's said.) lol.
fVc4FACE 1 year ago
@fVc4FACE It's coo the grasss , pronouced like that
KingTom777 1 year ago
@KingTom777 bien non dindon! cest un coup de grace. faisait avec le p. un cou cest come un gorge.
fVc4FACE 1 year ago
@fVc4FACE Je sais... Mais sa se prononce pour les anglais comme je l'er écris avant , sinon , sa fais bizarre avec l'accent anglais non ?
KingTom777 1 year ago
@KingTom777 eh oui. cest pas comme un gros chose la. cest juste amusant quand il dit que de gras.
fVc4FACE 1 year ago
sorry to gripe but i cant see atall how you are only doing about 5.3k my combat rogue is currently just elegable cata heroics and is kickin out about 8.5k DPS, some boss fights such as Rajh in Halls of origination it will rise to about 9-10k depending if we have BL or hero.
apox124 1 year ago
Thank you so much for sharing this with me I seriously thing playing a rogue is hard.. even for a girl.. LOL!
Ltdarling 1 year ago
The amount of fail is incredibly high in these videos.
Abez987 1 year ago
Combat kinda blows now...
vgamedude12 1 year ago
do all these video tips for rogues aply for pvp aswell as pve and if not can someone link me a good pvp settup?
DrakeSteel23 1 year ago
combat is dps spec for rogue?
beesje16 1 year ago
21k crit, im not gana lie, not only did i jizz, but i think in mymind, i instantly took everything you sad here, and made my rouge 1000000x better thanks man
raznok117 1 year ago
@raznok117 are you kidding, my lvl 84 sub rogue hits 22's unbuffed
thenotoriousjon 1 year ago
@thenotoriousjon thats pretty good then, i just dont like sub
raznok117 1 year ago
Mate, have you EVER played Rogue? your totally useless :-)
my5tix 1 year ago
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you are fucking horrible
Awesoome3 1 year ago
Well, still having no idea of playing rogue (pala ftw^^) but tryed on my own a rogue (premade ofc) - and got with my low experience 12k dps <-<
Sodgamer 1 year ago
you´ve got post!
ReyMysterioooo 1 year ago
Even if you're going Ruptureless, Killing Spree and Revealing Strike's glyphs are better than Eviscerate. Also wtf are you doing starting in stealth and with Ambush?
Meijenrr 1 year ago
You should absolutely not being Glyphed for Eviscerate, Glyph of Rupture is loads better.
Meijenrr 1 year ago
The 3rd point you have in Coup de Grace should be in Lethality and Coup de Grace should be left 2/3.
Meijenrr 1 year ago
You specced incorrectly for max dps. Next 'expert' please...
ComfortablyMuffin 1 year ago
Damn Combat got nurfed the fuck out! lol good thing i have all classes, i dont wana play rogues if i cant dps with combat, now that i think about it, i might even quit for a while, that hurt bad right there, they wana nurf us when assassination is the highest dps solotarget and preferred pvp spec?, and IF they wana bitch bout our aoe being too much, they nurfed the aoe too..... Dang blizzard, i was stuck on warriors being nurfed wotlk so i swich to my rogue now, they want me to switchback
U win
Flippyy1 1 year ago
Combat is in such a sad state, I'm barely hitting 11k dps in ICC while everyone else around me hits that point easily and only reason I'm even barely keeping up with dps is because I outgear people, it's so sad.
MeatBunz 1 year ago
definitley switching to assasination >< dammit blizzard
J4KETS 1 year ago
I use to pull 13k in icc25 now im lucky to do 8k..I dont know what to do. I stack all agi and i get out dps by a much lower gs rogue who is stacked with all crit WTF am i doing wrong? My gs is 6200 i got like 2400 agi and 6400 power...My main hand axe hits 225 dps and my off hits 250...I got out dps by a rogue using fucking daggers! LAME
Fox250R 1 year ago
so now that arp is gone. are rogue's going to stack crit now?
MrDaRkOrBiTe 1 year ago
@MrDaRkOrBiTe Haste is king right now. For Assassination rogues, the spell hit cap is essential.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago 5
@tgnWorldOfWarcraft rite now in WoW wat rogue spec do u suggest me to b.. october 20 2011 wat spec shuld i become and wat talent build shuld i use from wat website or shuld i create my own...thx and pce out
Qxick 4 months ago
I know it won't make a huge difference overall, but why did you use instant poison over wounding poison. The loss of potent poisons to stack deadly quickly and the higher proc rate of wounding makes it the superior poison to use to get a higher dps even though it has a lower actual damage than instant.
AlexanderVanHelsing 1 year ago
You say to stay away from mastery but remember that Combat Rogues' mastery directly affects the Combat Potency talent. Try not to think of it for just the dps of the extra offhand swings themselves.
Wilvan1809 1 year ago
@Wilvan1809 Unfortunately, the proc rate is so low that you aren't gaining any noticable amounts of energy from the mastery. Those 35 procs generate 7 procs of potency, which means 105 energy. Each mastery point (179 mastery rating) gives you 1.25% extra MG proc chance. That means you are spending 179 mastery rating to gain 10 energy every 269 main hand swings. No thanks.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago 12
I'd be scarred to fight u
Parkoree 1 year ago
combat rogue broken....slightly? no rupture, mastery sucks ball! hope they fix it. all dps look like 3 button rotations with cds thrown in :)
symillickg 1 year ago
@symillickg Yeah, they need to buff the hell out of Rupture and the mastery. That will both bring Combat in line with other DPS specs, and make the rotation a tad more interesting. For the record, most dps specs have been revamped to be very interesting to play, even stuff like Frost Mage, Marks Hunter, Ret Pally, etc.
tgnWorldOfWarcraft 1 year ago
@symillickg
If u get glyph of revealing strike and glyph of rupture it far more out dps's eviscerate, also you want to pop ur cooldowns when u get ur deep insight for max damage, ur supposed to use wound poison... test it, it does a higher percentage, and lastly y did u ambush? opening with SS is much better. Im not in beta but i know the changes, i sustain 12k on dummies as combat atm at 80 and pull 21k on saurfang
111julieann89 1 year ago
@symillickg
If u get glyph of revealing strike and glyph of rupture it far more out dps's eviscerate, also you want to pop ur cooldowns when u get ur deep insight for max damage, ur supposed to use wound poison... test it, it does a higher percentage, and lastly y did u ambush? opening with SS is much better. Im not in beta but i know the changes, i sustain 12k on dummies as combat atm at 80 and pull 21k on saurfang. This is terribly wrong :(
111julieann89 1 year ago
i perfer improve sprint cuz helpful when u need to get back into the fight ect
symillickg 1 year ago
what are the rest of the parts going to be over???
joseurdaddy 1 year ago
amg 22 parts
MegaMD64 1 year ago
so, what class is next?
multileroyjenkins 1 year ago
22 parts....HOLY FUCK
classicjuice 1 year ago
Very interesting :D
Jackeh00 1 year ago
Thank You SOOOOO MUCH :D
Formutha 1 year ago
well, assassination made the biggest dps
trant999 1 year ago
on and i was first =) ... and second, yayy
006Anakin006 1 year ago
Do feral druid next pleaseeeeeeeee :D
006Anakin006 1 year ago