First of all, it's wrong to start the practice of Aikido with the goal of being invincible and stopping someone who points a knife at you: Aikido is union, and I see a good awase in this video. But we mustn't forget of its effectiveness and pratical applications (samurais used the ancient budo to kill their enemies). At 0:30, for example, you dodge the shomenuchi still being in front of your uke: an aggressor, expert or not, would follow with a straight punch and you'd be defenseless. Is it not?
From my experience of practising aikido knife techniques with a tanto, the hardest challenge is the actual removal of the weapon from the hand of the attacker. It's made to look pretty effortless here, which perhaps it is for a sixth dan. I'd like to able to see it a little slower, in close-up. There's a real danger of cutting yourself badly at this point, even if you've executed the rest of the technique well.
I like aikido as an art. everyone will have to make their own decisions within the art they are learning. this guy moves really well technically. although it's funny how he grabs the blade in the disarm :D. it's a nice demo regardless. keep rockin it :)
@Tullius Thrown? Who and the fuck have you encountered? Barely anyone knows how to competently throw a knife in a weapon fashion. And most thugs don't want to chase their pray they just want to get what they desire in the instance.
thanks for your kind reply. My point is that a well-trained person (aikidoka, jujitsu, karate etc) would certainly keep calm and be probably able to disarm and neutralise a knife attacker without great problems. If one ever happens to see oneself in such an awkward situation, being threatened by a knife holder and one is not a martial art expert or at least well-trained, then I would recommend running for one's life.
@Tullius I agree completely. Running is a first choice, also for the experienced martial artist. In most cases it's the best self defense - especially if you're a well-trained runner.
@sklenik001 "no" gun? Or did you mean "a gun."? If it was the latter, then I totally agree with that as well, it's just that a lot of people believe guns are immoral and unnecessary...I however am not one of those people.
@sadbluepaint, what if, what if... Of course, it is more difficult to defend oneself against an expert attacker, especially someone armed. But most attackers are far from such experts, so any self defense training is better than none at all.
@Aikidostenudd bullshit my friend, anyone with a knife can instictly cut your head or draw back his arm and cut you. the main mistake in these techniques is that they flip opponents arm so close to your head, instead to move aside and make a punch. catching someones arm in fight is not very smart, actually is pretty stupid.
You have to know how to handle the knife before you can defend against it. And there are but few martial arts in which that is properly taught. Any streetwise mugger with a knife will slice and dice you when you use these techniques. Amethar is right.
I've been practicing aikido for 12 years. Than a friend of my invited me to a filippino kali training. Unfortunately I had to admit later that Aikido sucks against knife. I'm training also kali since than. I watched some jiu-jutsu, tai-jutsu, and ninjutsu techniques as well. Japanese have no clue how to knife fight. They are superior with sword and spear altough. Not the technques are bad just some basic pricipals are missing during execution.
I disagree on that. I wouldn't stand a chance with a knife against a kali grand master, compared to an Aikido shihan.
If we would practice only knife in Aikido training perhaps Aikido would have effective knife techniques. Its just that in some part of the world people emphasized different methods. A horse archer would be killed in the jungle, but a maori warrior would die fast in the steppe. Different environments, different way of fightings.
Always "internet quarterbacks" any true Aikido practicioner who understands the centerline theory, and footwork as Mr. Stenudd definately demonstrates, beautifully approaches these attacks from all angles THERE IS NO WHAT IF?
As much as I love Aikido knife defence is definitely not its strong point. There is too much hand switching/fiddling. Grabbing the back of the knife is assuming that the knife is single edged also. There must about one or may be two examples in this video that is effective.
lol this is a funny comment...sure Aikido is not good for disarming attackers with edged weapons even though it was orginally made FOR SAMUARIS, this technique is very different from my school of teaching, the sankyo is rather weak. 0:10 we are taught to take the knife and drive it back into the attacker's body with his own momentum combined with our own force aimming for the neck or heart. "why u stabbing yourself?" =P
Zulog1, any technique is dangerous for the beginner.
If uke has two knives should not matter, since each aikido technique should be done in such a way that uke cannot reach tori with the free arm. But of course, that's easier said than done.
Aikidostenudd, I'm sorry but I have to say, that this just doesn't work. The attacker has so much time to punch you, kick you, or to slice you. I'm doing Wing Chun and Latosa Escrima and it works, but this do not...
@Aikidostenudd I'm trying to figure out which of your bullshit knife defenses are more liable to get your killed on the street; kotegaishe or this crap. I'm leaning more towards this crap.
Thats not true, I saw a friend of me who got attacked with a knife and he broke the guys arm in 1 second. He practices aikido and jujitsu for years. Trust me I blinked and the whole fight was over.
@Amethar The attacker cannot punch or kick when his arm is hyperextended this way. All the time you see as opportunity to attack are under the control of the Aikidoka. This is what retard like you failed to understand.
"I am not doing Wing Chun or Latosa Escrima and it don't work, but this is..." If that sound stupid, know that this is what you said about Aikido. You claim something do not work AND admitting not practicing it. Yeah, this video suck. But not as much as your stupid comment.
@newtubetubetube hmmm, if you say so... I gotta tell you, that I've recently been to some Aikido trainings and Aikido is so... absurd... you're saying something about fixing... yes, that might be true, but he is fixing just one arm, not the other one you fool... So stop retarding and try to count every moments that the agresor can attack... I think that you don't even know that high number
@Amethar Dude ehm, for example, you probably think that at 0:48 (for example) is an excellent time for the agressor to attack. I really hope you try this in real life, becouse you will break your radius in your other arm. In sankyo (when executed properly) any movement towards the uke (defender) tightens the lock. Sankyo is also by far the most dangerous lock to preform. 1 wrong movement and the agressors arm is broken. Dont forget btw, this is a demo, to show the movement, not real life.
This is Aikikai. They stopped training against/with weapons for a long time. Not to long ago they sort of freaked out and tried to get that back into the training. Therefore it lacks on some points.
Also this video probably isn't aimed at not-aikidokas as it is more a reference for (Aikikai-)Aikidoka, who can very well see what he is showing here.
@hkjkdsifu if you make it with the right spirit true budo it doset meter what you do you will be undefiteble! thats it a true martial artist knows this
So smooth, so beautiful, this is a true artist at work--notice how he blends with the uke and maintains control through out the technique. Truly the essence of unifying spirit.
I am an Aikido practitioner and teacher, and for me knife tech.s are for me of utmost interest.
But IMHO a true knife attack is more like the attacher (probably concealing the knife) grabs you with the free hand (by the shoulder or the collar or the arm or the hand) and then he rapidly pumps the knife into your body with the other hand several times at a fast pace... How would you deal with this?
Exactly, but the fact that the other hand is armed limits the range of techniques (e.g. only ura variations). That's why generally on grab techniques I always bring the students' attention on the other hand/arm and not the one being pinned. This way IMHO grabbing techniques shifts from beginners difficulty to highly skilled level. Thank you for your answer.
IMHO this is where ura waza techniques come into play. To get off the line of attack and step behind and outside uke automatically puts nage out of reach of uke's second hand empty or not.
As long as you are controlling uke's center from this position, any technique from here would be effective.
The nage in this video is not using any technique ura waza. He has chosen to move directly inside instead. This may be necessary in closed quarters.
I am a bigginer in aikido, and your scenerio happened to me 3 years ago. I was not able to do any of the techniques but i was able to avoid the knife long enough to somehow survive.
He tried to stab me 3-4 times and I just parried/pre-empted his hand and stepped the 45 degree step backwards we were tought during the basic steps..
till I finally tripped on a cable (I am from Manila it was for support for a telephone pole)
I was able to do a sort of back fall and when he lunged at me I had a clear shot at his gut and kicked him HARD.. He was hurt..
Unfortunately he got away..
My point is: that even with basic parrying,defensive steps, and learning how to fall properly, stuff that is taught in Aikido and other martial arts, it could SAVE your LIFE..
I mean, I am happy that are still here to tell ust this story. It was a mix of prompt reaction and lucky. The stabber didn't grabbed you anyway and kept on trying to stab you with extended arm. That was a lucky situation, for you've been able to keep the distance until he opened a good target for you. A more skilled attacker wouldn't act like that. Again I am happy that you are still with us and happy to learn something from this story.
I know I am probably wasting my time but here it goes anyway. As an Aikido practitioner, we KNOW a street fight won't look like this and this is not a realistic attack. THIS is a basic attack to demonstrate a static technique. As your proficiency in the technique improves, the attacks become more realistic. At least that's how it works in my dojo.
Yeah i agree, but if you have a solution for every attack then you don't have to worry about witch attack is thrown, thats what is good about aikido, moves can be adapted for just about any attack.
Exactly. That is why we practice against four basic strikes, four basic grabs, and two basic kicks. All of these can translate into any attack from a person with or without a weapon.
No asegurar el cuchillo, y simplemente envolver el movimiento me parece muy peligroso. Esta bien contra un golpe, pero contra algo filoso??? ;Mmm si el atacante solo puntea y rapidamente retira el ataque, el brazo ter,ima pura sangre...
okey it was just a demonstration, but please be careful when you take the knife that you don t grasp the blade. if it s real sharp knife you already got already many wound.maybe you can re do it by taking the knife from the handle.
I assume the Demo was for a 1 edge side knife, not double. Even taking the knife off the holding hand has an exact movement so that the person cannot hold to it. I think this demo was also including the way to take the knife off the hand making a hard grip of the opponent useless.
yes most of the knives are one edges, taking it from the back of the edge is okey, until one has to grip the blade fully to disengage from the opponents grip, then one cannot help but to be cut. that technique usually applicable when it is a wooden tanto. surely he has a good aikido moves.
I looked at the video again and doesn't look to me he grabs the blade fully. He does exactly the way I was taught too: Palm of the hand on the other side of the blade and push in the weak direction of the grib. When the knife is coming out of the hand wrap the hand on both side of the blade not touching the cutting edge (not a fist closing hand, but more the fingers pressing the side of the blade against the palm beow the thumb...hard to describe in words).
se the second and the third set of the knife taking. if you don t believe me you try yourself the real blade and tell me if you don t get a cut. with the higher kyus we do it with the real one p.s. only in asia. but just be careful. try the ki aikido tanto dori they have some sensible one.
i forgot to say.. steffan dissplayes an effective aikido in all of these series, and he does it without doing any un"known" movements and extreme personal influences so to say, as i ahve seen with some other rather questionable senseis. (they do good too , but maybe were trying a little extra)
it is hard for me to picture someoen that is good in aikido will go over to the other side and find the other style as fraudulantly wrong .. he would most probably just adjust , that is the nature of aikido .. to adjust in my opionion and within even this short time i have been doing it
if i understand it right, however i am going to teach this ones i am going to be.. is that if we take aikido and putt it inside a 4 frame we wont have aikido.. it is important to learn the basics just like all styles do , but to improvise will be one of my biggest teachings.. because you cannot say one thing is aikido and the other is not , as far as the principles are held 1. no to injure , 2. to lead to peace , 3. to use ki and harmony it is aikido , and this is hardly found in other arts.
I am not as impressed with this technique as the others, what is making Uke go down after the sankyo control is applied? Why not cut straight down while maintaining the sankyo lock to bring uke to the floor?
Good question :) This is way of doing sankyo is influenced by Nishio sensei. I'm not sure I understand you correctly, but it's better to use two hands than just one, when controlling uke - and this is one way to solve it when one of tori's hands holds the knife. Uke is led forward and around, not just down. Trying to bring uke straight down risks losing the sankyo control, and uke may be able to counter.
Interesting, I guess the way I am describing would be influenced somewhat by a yoshinkai sankyo(ajjo), where the lock is applied standing for a longer time before the cut down takes place. Is the way you demonstrated in this video a standard aikikai way of doing this technique or is it just specific to Nishio Shihan's style?
It is not that far from what's usually done in Aikikai. But there is no standard way of doing the techniques in Aikikai, which is an organization rather than a style.
First of all, it's wrong to start the practice of Aikido with the goal of being invincible and stopping someone who points a knife at you: Aikido is union, and I see a good awase in this video. But we mustn't forget of its effectiveness and pratical applications (samurais used the ancient budo to kill their enemies). At 0:30, for example, you dodge the shomenuchi still being in front of your uke: an aggressor, expert or not, would follow with a straight punch and you'd be defenseless. Is it not?
EverSleeper 2 months ago
@EverSleeper Well, I actually move to the side of uke, but of course I can't wait too long continuing the technique...
Aikidostenudd 2 months ago
From my experience of practising aikido knife techniques with a tanto, the hardest challenge is the actual removal of the weapon from the hand of the attacker. It's made to look pretty effortless here, which perhaps it is for a sixth dan. I'd like to able to see it a little slower, in close-up. There's a real danger of cutting yourself badly at this point, even if you've executed the rest of the technique well.
philwoodford 3 months ago
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antarameg 7 months ago
I like aikido as an art. everyone will have to make their own decisions within the art they are learning. this guy moves really well technically. although it's funny how he grabs the blade in the disarm :D. it's a nice demo regardless. keep rockin it :)
redpillpusher 9 months ago
The best self-defense against a knife is to run. =)
Ronnock 1 year ago 4
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yes, run and get the knife stuck/thrown into your back, if the knife holder knows how to throw it efficiently.
Tullius 1 year ago
@Tullius Thrown? Who and the fuck have you encountered? Barely anyone knows how to competently throw a knife in a weapon fashion. And most thugs don't want to chase their pray they just want to get what they desire in the instance.
Ronnock 1 year ago
@Ronnock
thanks for your kind reply. My point is that a well-trained person (aikidoka, jujitsu, karate etc) would certainly keep calm and be probably able to disarm and neutralise a knife attacker without great problems. If one ever happens to see oneself in such an awkward situation, being threatened by a knife holder and one is not a martial art expert or at least well-trained, then I would recommend running for one's life.
Tullius 1 year ago
@Tullius I agree completely. Running is a first choice, also for the experienced martial artist. In most cases it's the best self defense - especially if you're a well-trained runner.
Aikidostenudd 1 year ago
@Ronnock Sensei, what is your favorite technique out of all that you've learned?
Sensei: The 100-meter dash.
dgaflord 10 months ago
@Ronnock No GUN
sklenik001 8 months ago
@sklenik001 "no" gun? Or did you mean "a gun."? If it was the latter, then I totally agree with that as well, it's just that a lot of people believe guns are immoral and unnecessary...I however am not one of those people.
Ronnock 8 months ago
@Ronnock : Agree =)
DarkLegend2009 8 months ago
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@Ronnock Agree =)
DarkLegend2009 8 months ago
what if the knife opponent is a Filipino street fighter with a knowledge of arnis? aikido man there will become a pork salad..
sadbluepaint 1 year ago 2
@sadbluepaint, what if, what if... Of course, it is more difficult to defend oneself against an expert attacker, especially someone armed. But most attackers are far from such experts, so any self defense training is better than none at all.
Aikidostenudd 1 year ago 15
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Hi, I'm a Filipino Arnis practitioner, I like your videos and I agree to what you said there on your reply to Sadbluepaint.
kmelliza 1 year ago
@kmelliza, many thanks. Most other comments here are oddly categorical.
Aikidostenudd 11 months ago
@Aikidostenudd They're not "oddly categorical" to those who can look at Aikido subjectively. You are "oddly deluding" yourself.
solpapisolmook 10 months ago
@Aikidostenudd But this bullshit here isn't "self defense training," you idiot.
solpapisolmook 10 months ago
@Aikidostenudd bullshit my friend, anyone with a knife can instictly cut your head or draw back his arm and cut you. the main mistake in these techniques is that they flip opponents arm so close to your head, instead to move aside and make a punch. catching someones arm in fight is not very smart, actually is pretty stupid.
striker78900 9 months ago
@sadbluepaint You are right there feller!!!!
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@sadbluepaint Human flesh isnt pig flesh :P
SanatanaDharmaOM 2 months ago
You have to know how to handle the knife before you can defend against it. And there are but few martial arts in which that is properly taught. Any streetwise mugger with a knife will slice and dice you when you use these techniques. Amethar is right.
Micahel213 1 year ago
I've been practicing aikido for 12 years. Than a friend of my invited me to a filippino kali training. Unfortunately I had to admit later that Aikido sucks against knife. I'm training also kali since than. I watched some jiu-jutsu, tai-jutsu, and ninjutsu techniques as well. Japanese have no clue how to knife fight. They are superior with sword and spear altough. Not the technques are bad just some basic pricipals are missing during execution.
Attilahollo9 1 year ago
@Attilahollo9 You haven't been practicing Aikido for 12 years.
EatTinker 1 year ago
@Attilahollo9 all martial arts, suck against a knife, one wrong move, even if u r a kali master or whatever, ur still ****
chbedok 1 year ago
I disagree on that. I wouldn't stand a chance with a knife against a kali grand master, compared to an Aikido shihan.
If we would practice only knife in Aikido training perhaps Aikido would have effective knife techniques. Its just that in some part of the world people emphasized different methods. A horse archer would be killed in the jungle, but a maori warrior would die fast in the steppe. Different environments, different way of fightings.
Attilahollo9 1 year ago
BULLSHIT, good for selfmurdering
FightingWarrior 1 year ago
Always "internet quarterbacks" any true Aikido practicioner who understands the centerline theory, and footwork as Mr. Stenudd definately demonstrates, beautifully approaches these attacks from all angles THERE IS NO WHAT IF?
handsofgod7 2 years ago
very well said and very tru
mannnymanny 2 years ago
As much as I love Aikido knife defence is definitely not its strong point. There is too much hand switching/fiddling. Grabbing the back of the knife is assuming that the knife is single edged also. There must about one or may be two examples in this video that is effective.
hkjkdsifu 2 years ago
lol this is a funny comment...sure Aikido is not good for disarming attackers with edged weapons even though it was orginally made FOR SAMUARIS, this technique is very different from my school of teaching, the sankyo is rather weak. 0:10 we are taught to take the knife and drive it back into the attacker's body with his own momentum combined with our own force aimming for the neck or heart. "why u stabbing yourself?" =P
Wolfsbane909 2 years ago
agree, and besides, the techniques are still very dangerous for beginners, ho about if the uke has 2 knives?
Zulog1 2 years ago
Zulog1, any technique is dangerous for the beginner.
If uke has two knives should not matter, since each aikido technique should be done in such a way that uke cannot reach tori with the free arm. But of course, that's easier said than done.
Aikidostenudd 2 years ago
Aikidostenudd, I'm sorry but I have to say, that this just doesn't work. The attacker has so much time to punch you, kick you, or to slice you. I'm doing Wing Chun and Latosa Escrima and it works, but this do not...
Amethar 1 year ago
@Amethar, don't be sorry :)
To each his own.
Aikidostenudd 1 year ago
@Aikidostenudd I'm trying to figure out which of your bullshit knife defenses are more liable to get your killed on the street; kotegaishe or this crap. I'm leaning more towards this crap.
solpapisolmook 1 year ago
@Amethar
Thats not true, I saw a friend of me who got attacked with a knife and he broke the guys arm in 1 second. He practices aikido and jujitsu for years. Trust me I blinked and the whole fight was over.
paraglide01 1 year ago
@paraglide01 yes... but it was Jiu Jitsu... that IS something that work, but sorry, this just doesn't...
Amethar 1 year ago
@Amethar The attacker cannot punch or kick when his arm is hyperextended this way. All the time you see as opportunity to attack are under the control of the Aikidoka. This is what retard like you failed to understand.
"I am not doing Wing Chun or Latosa Escrima and it don't work, but this is..." If that sound stupid, know that this is what you said about Aikido. You claim something do not work AND admitting not practicing it. Yeah, this video suck. But not as much as your stupid comment.
newtubetubetube 1 year ago
@newtubetubetube hmmm, if you say so... I gotta tell you, that I've recently been to some Aikido trainings and Aikido is so... absurd... you're saying something about fixing... yes, that might be true, but he is fixing just one arm, not the other one you fool... So stop retarding and try to count every moments that the agresor can attack... I think that you don't even know that high number
Amethar 1 year ago
@Amethar Dude ehm, for example, you probably think that at 0:48 (for example) is an excellent time for the agressor to attack. I really hope you try this in real life, becouse you will break your radius in your other arm. In sankyo (when executed properly) any movement towards the uke (defender) tightens the lock. Sankyo is also by far the most dangerous lock to preform. 1 wrong movement and the agressors arm is broken. Dont forget btw, this is a demo, to show the movement, not real life.
Raikara 1 year ago
Depends on the style.
This is Aikikai. They stopped training against/with weapons for a long time. Not to long ago they sort of freaked out and tried to get that back into the training. Therefore it lacks on some points.
Also this video probably isn't aimed at not-aikidokas as it is more a reference for (Aikikai-)Aikidoka, who can very well see what he is showing here.
FinalKenny2 2 years ago
@hkjkdsifu if you make it with the right spirit true budo it doset meter what you do you will be undefiteble! thats it a true martial artist knows this
love you all !
westfalia9 1 year ago
omg! he's holding the edge of the knife whenever he's tries to capture it O,O
coldassassin15 2 years ago 2
Again no, not the edge but the back of the knife.
Aikidostenudd 2 years ago
Maybe you should consider renaming it to tanto then. That would make it clearer for not-aikidokas.
FinalKenny2 2 years ago
So smooth, so beautiful, this is a true artist at work--notice how he blends with the uke and maintains control through out the technique. Truly the essence of unifying spirit.
cantwait2look 2 years ago
WHAT IF THE KNIFE HAS A SERRATED EDGE pleasse?
hardrain08 2 years ago
aikido looks great...is it work if we against 2-3 people with knives?
only4my08 3 years ago
well honestly if 2 or 3 have knives just give them what they want...
dannyboyemo 2 years ago
i just learned spme of those techniques! but my level is lower, hey when am i getting hakama?!!?
hendrikmarine 3 years ago
That differs from dojo to dojo. In some cases at shodan, in others at 3rd kyu or so.
Aikidostenudd 3 years ago
When you buy one you get one. There are other japanese styles like kendo, iaido where you wear it from the start.
Hakama shouldn't be your motivation.
Attilahollo9 1 year ago
stop at 24th sec and see how defenders body is open for punch with attackers right hand. what about that?
blitzergang 4 years ago
There is a taisabaki.
Aikidostenudd 4 years ago
I appreciate alot the techniques shown.
I am an Aikido practitioner and teacher, and for me knife tech.s are for me of utmost interest.
But IMHO a true knife attack is more like the attacher (probably concealing the knife) grabs you with the free hand (by the shoulder or the collar or the arm or the hand) and then he rapidly pumps the knife into your body with the other hand several times at a fast pace... How would you deal with this?
Thank you.
kuriosawa 4 years ago
I would say that an aikido response is to do the technique on the hand that grabs you, right before it does so, and not wait for what comes next.
Aikidostenudd 4 years ago
Exactly, but the fact that the other hand is armed limits the range of techniques (e.g. only ura variations). That's why generally on grab techniques I always bring the students' attention on the other hand/arm and not the one being pinned. This way IMHO grabbing techniques shifts from beginners difficulty to highly skilled level. Thank you for your answer.
kuriosawa 4 years ago
IMHO this is where ura waza techniques come into play. To get off the line of attack and step behind and outside uke automatically puts nage out of reach of uke's second hand empty or not.
As long as you are controlling uke's center from this position, any technique from here would be effective.
The nage in this video is not using any technique ura waza. He has chosen to move directly inside instead. This may be necessary in closed quarters.
Deke101 3 years ago
This is where atemi would come into play. Stike his face to delay his stab and work with the grabbing hand. An ikkyo or nikkyo perhaps.
cjl14224 3 years ago
I am a bigginer in aikido, and your scenerio happened to me 3 years ago. I was not able to do any of the techniques but i was able to avoid the knife long enough to somehow survive.
He tried to stab me 3-4 times and I just parried/pre-empted his hand and stepped the 45 degree step backwards we were tought during the basic steps..
till I finally tripped on a cable (I am from Manila it was for support for a telephone pole)
spren27 3 years ago 2
I was able to do a sort of back fall and when he lunged at me I had a clear shot at his gut and kicked him HARD.. He was hurt..
Unfortunately he got away..
My point is: that even with basic parrying,defensive steps, and learning how to fall properly, stuff that is taught in Aikido and other martial arts, it could SAVE your LIFE..
spren27 3 years ago 2
My post was for kuriosawa by the way..
spren27 3 years ago
FORTUNATELY he got away...!
I mean, I am happy that are still here to tell ust this story. It was a mix of prompt reaction and lucky. The stabber didn't grabbed you anyway and kept on trying to stab you with extended arm. That was a lucky situation, for you've been able to keep the distance until he opened a good target for you. A more skilled attacker wouldn't act like that. Again I am happy that you are still with us and happy to learn something from this story.
kuriosawa 3 years ago
From Murphy's laws: "1 ton of preparation doesn't worth 1 gram of luck!"
kuriosawa 3 years ago
wow astig:D
querr05 3 years ago
Crap...Invalid Attack, in a street fight no one attacks that way. Looks pretty but thats about it.
CReyes811 4 years ago
I know I am probably wasting my time but here it goes anyway. As an Aikido practitioner, we KNOW a street fight won't look like this and this is not a realistic attack. THIS is a basic attack to demonstrate a static technique. As your proficiency in the technique improves, the attacks become more realistic. At least that's how it works in my dojo.
Deke101 3 years ago
Yeah i agree, but if you have a solution for every attack then you don't have to worry about witch attack is thrown, thats what is good about aikido, moves can be adapted for just about any attack.
- simon -
simondo666 3 years ago 2
Exactly. That is why we practice against four basic strikes, four basic grabs, and two basic kicks. All of these can translate into any attack from a person with or without a weapon.
Deke101 3 years ago
No asegurar el cuchillo, y simplemente envolver el movimiento me parece muy peligroso. Esta bien contra un golpe, pero contra algo filoso??? ;Mmm si el atacante solo puntea y rapidamente retira el ataque, el brazo ter,ima pura sangre...
patodefuego 4 years ago
Why take the knife and risk cutting yourself when you can just break the wrist?
ketsan 4 years ago
That's not aikido :)
Aikidostenudd 4 years ago
LOL! Is true.
ketsan 4 years ago
yes it is...
but thats not a sankyo...
007loui700 4 years ago
okey it was just a demonstration, but please be careful when you take the knife that you don t grasp the blade. if it s real sharp knife you already got already many wound.maybe you can re do it by taking the knife from the handle.
raymund0203 4 years ago
I assume the Demo was for a 1 edge side knife, not double. Even taking the knife off the holding hand has an exact movement so that the person cannot hold to it. I think this demo was also including the way to take the knife off the hand making a hard grip of the opponent useless.
charyuop 4 years ago
yes most of the knives are one edges, taking it from the back of the edge is okey, until one has to grip the blade fully to disengage from the opponents grip, then one cannot help but to be cut. that technique usually applicable when it is a wooden tanto. surely he has a good aikido moves.
raymund0203 4 years ago
I looked at the video again and doesn't look to me he grabs the blade fully. He does exactly the way I was taught too: Palm of the hand on the other side of the blade and push in the weak direction of the grib. When the knife is coming out of the hand wrap the hand on both side of the blade not touching the cutting edge (not a fist closing hand, but more the fingers pressing the side of the blade against the palm beow the thumb...hard to describe in words).
charyuop 4 years ago
se the second and the third set of the knife taking. if you don t believe me you try yourself the real blade and tell me if you don t get a cut. with the higher kyus we do it with the real one p.s. only in asia. but just be careful. try the ki aikido tanto dori they have some sensible one.
raymund0203 4 years ago
i forgot to say.. steffan dissplayes an effective aikido in all of these series, and he does it without doing any un"known" movements and extreme personal influences so to say, as i ahve seen with some other rather questionable senseis. (they do good too , but maybe were trying a little extra)
Aur0rah 4 years ago
it is hard for me to picture someoen that is good in aikido will go over to the other side and find the other style as fraudulantly wrong .. he would most probably just adjust , that is the nature of aikido .. to adjust in my opionion and within even this short time i have been doing it
Aur0rah 4 years ago
if i understand it right, however i am going to teach this ones i am going to be.. is that if we take aikido and putt it inside a 4 frame we wont have aikido.. it is important to learn the basics just like all styles do , but to improvise will be one of my biggest teachings.. because you cannot say one thing is aikido and the other is not , as far as the principles are held 1. no to injure , 2. to lead to peace , 3. to use ki and harmony it is aikido , and this is hardly found in other arts.
Aur0rah 4 years ago
I am not as impressed with this technique as the others, what is making Uke go down after the sankyo control is applied? Why not cut straight down while maintaining the sankyo lock to bring uke to the floor?
JGGraham 4 years ago
Good question :) This is way of doing sankyo is influenced by Nishio sensei. I'm not sure I understand you correctly, but it's better to use two hands than just one, when controlling uke - and this is one way to solve it when one of tori's hands holds the knife. Uke is led forward and around, not just down. Trying to bring uke straight down risks losing the sankyo control, and uke may be able to counter.
Aikidostenudd 4 years ago
Interesting, I guess the way I am describing would be influenced somewhat by a yoshinkai sankyo(ajjo), where the lock is applied standing for a longer time before the cut down takes place. Is the way you demonstrated in this video a standard aikikai way of doing this technique or is it just specific to Nishio Shihan's style?
JGGraham 4 years ago
It is not that far from what's usually done in Aikikai. But there is no standard way of doing the techniques in Aikikai, which is an organization rather than a style.
Aikidostenudd 4 years ago