You guys should not judge this man so harshly, Do you know he is in his 60's ? If you read the book "The Truth of Tao," you will find out that it is very bare bones taoism and not commercial at all. Definitely not for the faint of heart.
@unityspirit51 No it's not :-) Tao is both the mother and father all in one, but cannot be defined nor named. It is just the Way, and beyond all labelling.
'The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal Name.'
Dao is the Way... it's the way of truth....It is the oldest Chinese Way of Life, It teaches the connection between Human and Spirits . It is the traditional way of chinese to respect the nature and spirit. Balance of Life,Yin Yang that the good and the best must co exist in this universe.....if all good who would you call bad? and vice versa, who the universe will always seek to be in balance, otherwise it will adjust itself, this is where natural phenomenas take place i.e earthquakes, tsunami
I can think of nothing better than to quote Billy Madison, with a few slight changes:
"Mr. (Anatole), what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may (the Tao) have mercy on your soul."
All religions have one thing in common, they started as simple mystic traditions, just like Taoism as put forth by the likes of Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu. Then more and more people, piled more and more...B.S...on top of everything. This man represents what Taoism largely developed into in the East, a religious, dogmatic, ritualistic, perversion of what the Old Boys really showed us.
have you heard of the gnostic teachings of samael aun weor. What he teaches is a practical method of spirituality, no dogmas or theories gnosis is about freeing the conciousness from its conditioning as it is the conciousness wwhen free can understand god and the spirit. Try the website gnostic teachings for more info. there is a video on youtube sacraments of the gnostic church 1
Before you can understand the Tao Te Ching you must, first, understand the I-Ching.
Where was the I-Ching derived from? The I-Ching was derived from the Tao. Everything is a system. A very intricate and delicate, self-correcting system.
Understanding the origin of both the Tao Te Ching and the I-Ching is almost perfectly natural for people who behave as water does. Let the Tao guide you and you will understand these two works of reality.
typo...many centuries later...the idols of taoist saints worshipped...people who mock taoism have never read and studied its writings!...freedom of religion is a huge burden on the brainwashed masses of sheep!
lao tze was a teacher and a librarian who collected books/scrolls of rural teachings of the tao in ancient china...many decades later taoist saints get deified...lao tze is called yellow emperor...
lao tze was a teacher and a librarian who collected books/scrolls of rural teachings of the tao in ancient china...many decades later taoist saints get deified...lao tze is called yellow emperor...
5-stars...the interviewer is so full of caffine!...he is so hyper...master alex meditates on the jedi force...he is at one with the for and master yoda!...learn the ways of the force and become a jedi...-milwaukee
It's defin Tao, but it is pronounced "Dao"... from every religious studies book I've looked it up in, and extra reading. I'm positive it's spelt with a T.
It doesn't matter though, it's the concepts that are important. :)
And so if LaoTze may have not even been a person how can this mans teacher have a certain lineage to the legendary LaoTze. Taoism doesn't necessary have to do with Martial Art at all OR Qigong OR money - some of what this guy says is right but not all.
It's not Tao people it is DAO. With a D. It was originally a philosophy. All it basically is that the world is comprised of two opposite opposing forses of noth a positive and a negative nature. Accepting that one thing cannot exist without another such as love /hate or good/evil or life/death is the Dao. The Dao is basically the force which unites these two positive or negative forces that govern the world. It's infinate, basically one thing cannot exist without an opposite. The Dao is not god.
HAHAH God allows the Tao (or Dao, whatever), the Tao is there for man to accept or not. To live within it and by it....or not. Like Alex said, it's not for everyone. It's not bad if you don't believe in the Tao because the Tao is only there for you to live by...
It is not just about the reality of oppositional relations. It is much more than that. Understand that you are only a small person with nothing to offer the Tao. But, the Tao has much to offer a small person like you. Like me. Like all of us. If you let yourself by guided without forcing, imposing your will
Ok i said the Tao is not a god. just to let you know. i don't beleive in god. I am a pantheist. Similar to what Taoic philosophies teach. I wasn't trying to impose my will at all. I don't know what gave you that idea.
Anyone wanting to study Tao should not listen to this man! Taoism is NOT a religion, don't let anybody fool you! Read the Tao Te Ching, and you will see that the word "god" or "spirit" or "afterlife" NEVER appear! Later generations, after Lao Tzu, have corrupted his teachings and turned them into a religion and uses some verses they think support some kind of spiritual belief. It is wrong.
hey, whats the difference between corrupting Taoism with spiritual belief when all you are doing is corrupting it with atheism? the Tao Te Ching doesn't directly mention life after death, but it hints to the idea that there is. Why can't u let people believe in what they want? Stop giving them propaganda that there is no life after death. how in the world would u know? Nobody knows ok?
You don't understand me. I did NOT say "there is no life after death", I simply said that the Tao Te Ching doesn't explicitly say that there is. If you're referring to verse 50 again, then that's just one verse of the whole scripture. You'd think that if Lao Tzu wouldv'e wanted to tell people about life after death he would've done a more thourough job.
Perhaps he wanted people to find out for themselves. The Tao Te Ching was written in metaphors, so maybe Tao wasn't meant to be understood with words. Tao can relate to atheism, spirutalism, and religion. whatever someone believes in, they will try and relate it to Tao, just as you have related Tao to atheism. Yes, perhaps I misunderstood you, and i'm sorry, i'm not here to make enemies.
Tao relates to the way of all things. Yes. But, the Tao recognizes a higher power. And also eternal life. It may not be your life. But, the energy and space is INFINITE. No beginning and no end. You think you know. Reassess.
Anyone who really understands the Tao Te Ching knows that it is not a religion. However, "God" is mentioned many times in the writings in different ways. Don't fool yourself. The Tao is a way of life which recognizes a higher power. Don't be a fool.
Yes, you are right that Tao is like a force, but, it is also that which gives way. God, to me, is similiar to gravity.....that which unites everything in the Universe, but, also infinite space. The emptiness into which everything is contained....like the molded clay pot which itself is useless (unless you want to smash it over someone's head), without the emptiness inside in which we can use. Imagine a vast web of infinite energy that connects everything into a single unit.
@ramonthomas I was adressing the things he said in this particular video, yes. I don't have to read his book to know that what he says in this video is wrong
@KamasutraButterfly If you go to China and tell them that taoism is not a religion that will laugh at you. American taoism has very little to do with the taoism that they practice in china. Here they corrupted taoism into new age horse shit. You may not agree with everything his lineage teaches and to tell you the truth i don't either but what he teaches is actual taoism.
@atillawith Taoism was not founded as a religion by it’s creator, Lao Tzu. His writings were never intended to work that way. If you actually read the Tao Te Ching, there is absolutely no mention of a god or gods, nor anything supernatural.
Taoism is not about following priests, it’s about living your own life in accordance with the world and the universe. It’s basically a way of life, a philosophy. The Tao is a symbol for everything, whatever that everything may be
(continued) Even a billion Chinese people can be wrong, you know. And I really don’t care if they laugh at me or not, I don’t succumb to peer pressure. It’s really irrelevant what the people today think when the evidence clearly shows that they are interpreting the texts in the wrong way. Of course I know that Taoism is practiced as a religion, I’m not stupid, but I would say that they are misrepresenting the original texts and thinkings of Lao Tzu
@KamasutraButterfly Oh yeah of course because you really are qualified to make that statement... Your just another ignorant white fuck thinking that you know better than an entire country of people who were born and raised within a culture that practices taoism. Have you ever been to china? Have you ever studied under an actual chinese taoist master? Here's an idea how about you do some kamasutra with your gay fuck buddy and take it in the ass and get scull fucked to death.
@atillawith Now, let me ask you this: do you really think that foul language and personal insults are gonna make me change my mind? I'm above that kind of childish behaviour and I'm not gonna sink to your level. Why are you even responding to my comments if you don't want to have an actual discussion.... or maybe this is the best you've got?
It's a waste of time talking to people like you, I've got better things to do with my life. For your own sake: either grow up, or go see a psuychiatrist
to me, i dont think taoism is a religion, i dont believe in it like a religion. i think is just very wise words that comes with life experience. not like christianity, or muslim. its very deep and meanin full philosophy that only a few can understand. i read thru it when ever i am too competitive, or stressed. it calms me down, and makes me wise
You are correct !!! as any student or master of the tao would say. Taoism is "NOT" a religion it is a way of life. the oldest person recorded to have ever lived was a taoist master. 252 years Li king yuen He practiced tai chi everday ans followed the dietary rule. No meat,dary,sugar ro alcohol. He won 3 awards from the chinese government. for longevity. And was a prominent professor. Also he at goji berries everyday. The healthiest food on earth. which promote hgh production and keeps you young.
c'mon, with this antiquated pipe dream garbage you disgrace such a beautiful thing....the healthiest of men consume sugar to boost insulin to aid in nutrient absorption, sugar before meal not after,ever think maybe 252 years has nothing to do with time??? there is manyteachings which are koans, or pstories,stories,notbeing koans, it went over your head,vegetables have sugar,ervrtything in life is sugar,all energy,plant starch,complex sugars,even salts,some are similar, open your eyes...educate
I am talking about Cane sugar. Not the natural sugars you find in the foods you mentioned. Nothing went over my head as you put it. And the rest of what you say I can't make out. As far as the rest. What are koans? Pstories? Not beingKoans?ervtything? Enlighten me please !! Without getting personal.
the calm is it, but the rest of what you said and being wise is not, that is only a perception, which is a thing,you are never wise, especially not from reading this, there is no wise, and no religion, there is what is,the goodness in humans is religion, the badness in humans is religion,there is no religion, thereis no tao
I am also a philosophical Taoist, I don't visit Taoist temples or anything like that, I don't really pay much attention to the religious aspects of Taoism such as the gods, but I believe they are just there as a kind of physical representation of the energy's, health, wealth and so on. So I wouldn't get too angry about it. I also believe that the spiritual side of Taoism isn't so much of a bad thing.
The ball of heat in the stomach points to the nature of nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of nature, I'd say.
ma is on to something, but he smokes too much weed, u gotta balance weed with excercise,adrenaline for clarity and the clarity of the woods, and more often than not excercise restraint and clean out your system for some time
I don't do weed. Also, I do ALOT of martial arts exercises and some meditation. I just described one meditation. Also, this discription was exaggerated. Since when did taoism's meditation stop being that of breathing and imagining a ball of heat in the lower abdomen? I say, it never ceased to be. That is basic qi gong right there, I dare say. However, I do agree with all the rest that you've said. I do train physically.
Any true taoist will tell you. tao is not a religion. religion contains the confines of supersticious doctrine. Where as truth(tao) cannot be contained by anything. You are right !!! The gods are mental constructs. Thats all.
thank you, at least someone in this forum understands what Taoism is all about. At least you and stardingo747 have better understanding than that snake-oil Russian master Alex, the Charlatan Harlot Saida, and that hedonistic gnothean who think they "somehow" have achieved the Tao through false practices.
Achieved the Tao through "false" practices?? If the Tao is achieved, then it is achieved. There are many paths to The Real, and some of them are toll roads. Few come prepared to pay as asked, and the Knowledge isn't free. Others, like yourself - more lazy, less desiring of illumination, and generally more fearful and prone to hypocritical thinking - take paths more commonly trodden and call those more daring than themselves, "misguided."
Taoism is one of the very few religions that actually encourages and delivers actual religious experience. Its "gods" are symbolic, memetics, allegorial entities that act as GUIs which allows interface with systems of energy and information. All is energy/information to a Taoist. It is a religion intended for people who have achieved a sufficient degree of psychological individuation from the oceanic collective consciousness. Enlightenment and memetic disinfection are distinct, but required.
This interview does not help any one learn anything of substance. I hear 'practical' but who walks away with practical knowledge of how to go on living after watching this.
Try to feel what is yourself and what is not. Travel, live alone for some time and you will know what you want and whether a motivation comes from yourself or from someone else.
Do you really want to study or is it only your friends and parents? Imagine a situation and feel if this is what you want or not. Be yang in your own things and ying if someone wants to influence you.
There's an element of broken English from this guy that makes it somewhat difficult to understand the entirety of what he's saying. The conversation between them is going in circles.
* Lao Tzu was the "founder" of the teachings of Taoism. -- FALSE. Lao Tzu did not found anything. Legend has it he simply wrote down what was the conventional wisdom of the time.
* Tao te Ching is the "bible" of taoism -- FALSE. Tao te Ching is not part of 'religious' taoism's cannon. It is a philosophical text.
Actually, it is part of the Daoist canon, and highly revered in the Daoist religion. Many priests and monks are still expected to know the text. Check out the Daozang- it's in there, along with Zhuangzi and other "philosophical" works.
Tao te Ching is NOT part of the Daoist "religious" cannon. Yes, it is part of the Daoist philosophical cannon. I've travelled extensively throughout China with my Chinese wife, visited many Daoist temples in cities, villages, mountains. I can assure you that today, as well as in the past, the Tao te Ching, the Chuang Tzu, etc., are NOT part of the Daoist 'religious' tradition or canon.
Some Chinese schools of thought do believe this. I'm not sure but one school that might believe in this theory, would be The School of Naturalists/Yin-yang.
* There are "millions" of translations of the Tao te Ching. -- FALSE. Millions???? How many million, 7 million or 53 million? There might be several hundred or even a thousand translations. But a million? This guy is too lose with his facts.
* The "tao" separates people into groups. FALSE. People separate people into groups.
* Spirits, gods, etc. -- FALSE. These are trappings of 'religious' taosim, which developed after Buddhism gained prominance in the court in China. Taoism took elements of shaimanism (folk religions) and developed a heiarchy and religious ritual in order to compete with Buddhism. Most of the taoist cannon does not talk about gods or spirits, except in the metaphorical way.
Wrong, there is no evidence that Daoism formed to compete with Buddhism. This is just a myth, possibly started by Buddhists. The early Daoist religious movements had no resemblance to Buddhism, and had roots in ideas and practices long predating the entrance of Buddhism into China. I doubt you've read much of the Daoist canon at all, since you claim that the Dao De Jing is not part of it. In other words, you should learn some basic facts about this subject before raving about it on Youtube.
Please see my reply above. You are confusing the Daoist "religious" cannon with the Daoist "philosophical" cannon. Daoism developed religious forms, rituals and cannon exactly at the time Buddhism gained prominence and favor in the court in China. Stop listening to this Russian bozo and read up on Daoist history. The Tao te Ching is NOT part of the Daoist religious cannon.
* The "Truth" of Tao -- FALSE. This is an anti-taoist statement. The tao cannot be named or known (according to the Tao te Ching) but some Russian 'master' has finally arrived to dispute this and tell it like it is? If Lao Tzu didn't know the "truth" about the tao, then this guy sure doesn't.
I commented on a video of some purported 'master' spewing garbage about taoism. it was junk. this guy's words demonstrate he is neither a taoist scholar or master practitioner.
YOU commented on my "soul." what experience do you have with my soul? you and this junk 'master' belong together confusing people with misinformation. taoism is not some new age religion. you both need to get educated.
He is not a good Tao teacher/representative. Tao is for everyone because its universal.Anatol talks about spirits n gods, thats all garbage because the Tao-Te-Ching never mentions any of that. The Tao can never be fully explained but it is basicly the force/energy behind everything in this bi-polar universe
The Tao-Te-Ching is not the Taoist bible, it is one book (an important one, to be sure) in a huge canon of Taoist scriptures, so there are alot of things in Taoism you won't find in the Tao-te-ching. Taoism has always incorporated religious elements, including worship of deities. The idea that Taoism is just a non-theistic philosophy contained in a single book or a few books has nothing to do with the way Taoism has actually existed in China.
Daoism has NOT always incorporated religious elements. If that were true, they would definitely be found, even in some small detail, in the Tao te Ching, Chuang Tzu, etc. Daoism became "religious" to compete with Buddhism. Of course, some schools of Daoism had religious elements to them before Buddhism gained prominence, but the full blown "religious" practices (believing in and praying to deities, sprits, etc.) did not exist in any major, developed way until Buddhism became dominant.
First of all, the authors of the Dao De Jing and Zhuangzi did not call themselves Daoists, and were only considered Daoist in retrospect by their (religious) Daoist admirers much later. Historically speaking, there was no school called Daoism until religious movements arose bearing that name. Laozi and Zhuangzi were not even part of a single school themselves.
To continue: Worship of deities existed in China long before the arrival of Buddhism, and some of these deities are mentioned in the book of Zhuangzi, such as Xiwangmu (Queen Mother of the West). You should also know that, while the Daodejing and Zhuangzi are highly revered in Daoism, they are far from the only source texts for the tradition.
Finally: If you want to insist that Daoism was organized into a religion to compete with Buddhism, the burden of proof is on you. For example, which Buddhist ideas do you find in the teachings of Zhang Daoling? In his time, Buddhism had barely even penetrated into China and very few Chinese were familiar with it- it was far from dominant as you assume.
What I understand is that the nature of man is always drawn to the mystic. Philosophy, practical philosophy, always seems inevitably to be risen to mysticism at some point or another. Taoism more than likely started out in its infancy as a philosophical venture, eventually elements of mysticism were integrated into the philosophy; gods are born and created. Buddhism at its core was very practical yet over time Therevada became Mahayana, and Tibetin Buddhism brought mysticism to the table.
Your right, but what started out as truth, end up becoming null and void. Take the example of Christianity, it started out as beautiful and in some case revolutionary, but today some denominations (Evangelists, John Hagee & Benny Hinn) and churches (Rome) have made Jesus and his teachings a joke.
Well I am not exactly saying that. And maybe I am misunderstanding you but, all I was saying is that when a philosophical movement is developed, and the masses of people adopt it, that eventually they seem to incorporate mysticism and turn it into religion. But I am not saying that this is always bad. I am saying that it is in the nature of man to seek wisdom from the ethereal. I am not sure that I can say that it is either good nor bad; I certainly didn't intend it as a judgment on man kind.
I agree. I guess you have to look at it like an exoteric version, while the philosophical writings of Lao Zi and Zhuang Zi (no Gods of Wealth there) can be considered esoteric.
The title is really misleading. What this guy is talking about is only a branch of taoism called religious taoism, not to be confused with the original philosophy. So it's not The Truth about taoism, it's only an aspect of it.
I've done some research on this and apparently the unaspirated T sounds more like a D to Western ears. But for me as a Chinese, it sounds really wrong. Personally, I think the Wade-Giles system is more accurate.
TAO is no START nor ENDS!
easyherbs 6 months ago
You guys should not judge this man so harshly, Do you know he is in his 60's ? If you read the book "The Truth of Tao," you will find out that it is very bare bones taoism and not commercial at all. Definitely not for the faint of heart.
discordianzen 8 months ago
Watching something as simple, innocent and sacred as the Tao commercialized like this makes me feel sick.
misdelivery 9 months ago
this man is nt a great master. i am.
buddhafollower 9 months ago
@unityspirit51 No it's not :-) Tao is both the mother and father all in one, but cannot be defined nor named. It is just the Way, and beyond all labelling.
'The tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal Name.'
BibFortuna4President 1 year ago
just wonder,how he could immigraste to the usa from communist russia in 1976?
jimanHK 1 year ago
This jackoff can't even speak English. I doubt if he could write a book in English.
seanburman 1 year ago
Dao is the Way... it's the way of truth....It is the oldest Chinese Way of Life, It teaches the connection between Human and Spirits . It is the traditional way of chinese to respect the nature and spirit. Balance of Life,Yin Yang that the good and the best must co exist in this universe.....if all good who would you call bad? and vice versa, who the universe will always seek to be in balance, otherwise it will adjust itself, this is where natural phenomenas take place i.e earthquakes, tsunami
Devilito999 1 year ago
You knew something was wrong when the guy with the epic voice was shouting over the flashy graphics right at the start.
jacksawild 1 year ago
I can think of nothing better than to quote Billy Madison, with a few slight changes:
"Mr. (Anatole), what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may (the Tao) have mercy on your soul."
TaoistMonkeyTrips 1 year ago
All religions have one thing in common, they started as simple mystic traditions, just like Taoism as put forth by the likes of Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu. Then more and more people, piled more and more...B.S...on top of everything. This man represents what Taoism largely developed into in the East, a religious, dogmatic, ritualistic, perversion of what the Old Boys really showed us.
TaoistMonkeyTrips 1 year ago 4
have you heard of the gnostic teachings of samael aun weor. What he teaches is a practical method of spirituality, no dogmas or theories gnosis is about freeing the conciousness from its conditioning as it is the conciousness wwhen free can understand god and the spirit. Try the website gnostic teachings for more info. there is a video on youtube sacraments of the gnostic church 1
cheesyrichardhead 1 year ago
Tao Te Ching is derived from the I-Ching.
Before you can understand the Tao Te Ching you must, first, understand the I-Ching.
Where was the I-Ching derived from? The I-Ching was derived from the Tao. Everything is a system. A very intricate and delicate, self-correcting system.
Understanding the origin of both the Tao Te Ching and the I-Ching is almost perfectly natural for people who behave as water does. Let the Tao guide you and you will understand these two works of reality.
Kostly 2 years ago 3
I think of Tao was understanding the reality of the universe by becoming aware and awakened about the nature of wordly dualities.
Vinetia 2 years ago
Look how young this 61 year "old" man looks. If he wasn't so large I think that he might live to 110 years old.
Kostly 2 years ago
your free,, you follow your own faith,, your own way. Anyone gets in your way,, you take them down with Martial Art!
codeagent47 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA
Kostly 2 years ago
follow nothing
DarthHuru 2 years ago
Exactly
Kostly 2 years ago
Arguing about the Tao is probably the most pointless argument there can be.
Also, maybe someone should mention that this guy isn't discussing Philosophical Taoism.
MoneyLoverism 2 years ago
typo...many centuries later...the idols of taoist saints worshipped...people who mock taoism have never read and studied its writings!...freedom of religion is a huge burden on the brainwashed masses of sheep!
rocketshipstud2 2 years ago
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lao tze was a teacher and a librarian who collected books/scrolls of rural teachings of the tao in ancient china...many decades later taoist saints get deified...lao tze is called yellow emperor...
rocketshipstud2 2 years ago
lao tze was a teacher and a librarian who collected books/scrolls of rural teachings of the tao in ancient china...many decades later taoist saints get deified...lao tze is called yellow emperor...
rocketshipstud2 2 years ago
5-stars...the interviewer is so full of caffine!...he is so hyper...master alex meditates on the jedi force...he is at one with the for and master yoda!...learn the ways of the force and become a jedi...-milwaukee
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NewsBryce 2 years ago
What's interesting is that all of your bickering and conflicting arguements are only a reflection of your having strayed from the Tao.
enjoistaind 2 years ago
hahaha yes
Kostly 2 years ago
It's defin Tao, but it is pronounced "Dao"... from every religious studies book I've looked it up in, and extra reading. I'm positive it's spelt with a T.
It doesn't matter though, it's the concepts that are important. :)
sockrahtease 2 years ago
If this about the Tao, Taoism and Taoists why the picture of the Chan Buddhist?
4:18
smudge6699 2 years ago
nope.. he doesnt represent tao
skullogram666 3 years ago 6
And so if LaoTze may have not even been a person how can this mans teacher have a certain lineage to the legendary LaoTze. Taoism doesn't necessary have to do with Martial Art at all OR Qigong OR money - some of what this guy says is right but not all.
Dukka88 3 years ago
It's hard to paraphrase the Tao. Read his book then make your assessment.
Kostly 2 years ago
It's not Tao people it is DAO. With a D. It was originally a philosophy. All it basically is that the world is comprised of two opposite opposing forses of noth a positive and a negative nature. Accepting that one thing cannot exist without another such as love /hate or good/evil or life/death is the Dao. The Dao is basically the force which unites these two positive or negative forces that govern the world. It's infinate, basically one thing cannot exist without an opposite. The Dao is not god.
Vinetia 3 years ago
it ia pronounced with a "D" but it is spelled with a "T" I've never seen it spelled Dao....people.
grimmmammoth 2 years ago
HAHAH God allows the Tao (or Dao, whatever), the Tao is there for man to accept or not. To live within it and by it....or not. Like Alex said, it's not for everyone. It's not bad if you don't believe in the Tao because the Tao is only there for you to live by...
Kostly 2 years ago
It is not just about the reality of oppositional relations. It is much more than that. Understand that you are only a small person with nothing to offer the Tao. But, the Tao has much to offer a small person like you. Like me. Like all of us. If you let yourself by guided without forcing, imposing your will
Kostly 2 years ago
Ok i said the Tao is not a god. just to let you know. i don't beleive in god. I am a pantheist. Similar to what Taoic philosophies teach. I wasn't trying to impose my will at all. I don't know what gave you that idea.
Vinetia 2 years ago
The true toa is the one you don't have to think about.
peterdisgusting 3 years ago
Anyone wanting to study Tao should not listen to this man! Taoism is NOT a religion, don't let anybody fool you! Read the Tao Te Ching, and you will see that the word "god" or "spirit" or "afterlife" NEVER appear! Later generations, after Lao Tzu, have corrupted his teachings and turned them into a religion and uses some verses they think support some kind of spiritual belief. It is wrong.
KamasutraButterfly 3 years ago 18
hey, whats the difference between corrupting Taoism with spiritual belief when all you are doing is corrupting it with atheism? the Tao Te Ching doesn't directly mention life after death, but it hints to the idea that there is. Why can't u let people believe in what they want? Stop giving them propaganda that there is no life after death. how in the world would u know? Nobody knows ok?
dereklasalle 3 years ago 2
You don't understand me. I did NOT say "there is no life after death", I simply said that the Tao Te Ching doesn't explicitly say that there is. If you're referring to verse 50 again, then that's just one verse of the whole scripture. You'd think that if Lao Tzu wouldv'e wanted to tell people about life after death he would've done a more thourough job.
KamasutraButterfly 3 years ago
Perhaps he wanted people to find out for themselves. The Tao Te Ching was written in metaphors, so maybe Tao wasn't meant to be understood with words. Tao can relate to atheism, spirutalism, and religion. whatever someone believes in, they will try and relate it to Tao, just as you have related Tao to atheism. Yes, perhaps I misunderstood you, and i'm sorry, i'm not here to make enemies.
dereklasalle 3 years ago
Tao relates to the way of all things. Yes. But, the Tao recognizes a higher power. And also eternal life. It may not be your life. But, the energy and space is INFINITE. No beginning and no end. You think you know. Reassess.
Kostly 2 years ago
Anyone who really understands the Tao Te Ching knows that it is not a religion. However, "God" is mentioned many times in the writings in different ways. Don't fool yourself. The Tao is a way of life which recognizes a higher power. Don't be a fool.
Kostly 2 years ago
"Tao" is not an intelligence, not a thinking force. It is simply a force, like nature, would you say nature is a god?
KamasutraButterfly 2 years ago 2
Yes, you are right that Tao is like a force, but, it is also that which gives way. God, to me, is similiar to gravity.....that which unites everything in the Universe, but, also infinite space. The emptiness into which everything is contained....like the molded clay pot which itself is useless (unless you want to smash it over someone's head), without the emptiness inside in which we can use. Imagine a vast web of infinite energy that connects everything into a single unit.
Kostly 2 years ago
@Kostly Tao is not God.
BibFortuna4President 1 year ago 2
@BibFortuna4President
God is a concept that Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche declared dead.
smudge6699 1 year ago
@KamasutraButterfly THANK YOU! Spoken like someone who actually understands the true nature of Tao without bringing the 'G' word into it.
BibFortuna4President 1 year ago
@KamasutraButterfly Thank you for saying so. Daoism has no icons, other than the 'way'.
noclouds111 9 months ago
@KamasutraButterfly have you read his book? Do you base your comment on this interview alone?
ramonthomas 8 months ago
@ramonthomas I was adressing the things he said in this particular video, yes. I don't have to read his book to know that what he says in this video is wrong
KamasutraButterfly 8 months ago
@KamasutraButterfly If you go to China and tell them that taoism is not a religion that will laugh at you. American taoism has very little to do with the taoism that they practice in china. Here they corrupted taoism into new age horse shit. You may not agree with everything his lineage teaches and to tell you the truth i don't either but what he teaches is actual taoism.
atillawith 6 months ago
@atillawith Taoism was not founded as a religion by it’s creator, Lao Tzu. His writings were never intended to work that way. If you actually read the Tao Te Ching, there is absolutely no mention of a god or gods, nor anything supernatural.
Taoism is not about following priests, it’s about living your own life in accordance with the world and the universe. It’s basically a way of life, a philosophy. The Tao is a symbol for everything, whatever that everything may be
KamasutraButterfly 6 months ago
(continued) Even a billion Chinese people can be wrong, you know. And I really don’t care if they laugh at me or not, I don’t succumb to peer pressure. It’s really irrelevant what the people today think when the evidence clearly shows that they are interpreting the texts in the wrong way. Of course I know that Taoism is practiced as a religion, I’m not stupid, but I would say that they are misrepresenting the original texts and thinkings of Lao Tzu
KamasutraButterfly 6 months ago
@KamasutraButterfly Oh yeah of course because you really are qualified to make that statement... Your just another ignorant white fuck thinking that you know better than an entire country of people who were born and raised within a culture that practices taoism. Have you ever been to china? Have you ever studied under an actual chinese taoist master? Here's an idea how about you do some kamasutra with your gay fuck buddy and take it in the ass and get scull fucked to death.
atillawith 6 months ago
@atillawith Now, let me ask you this: do you really think that foul language and personal insults are gonna make me change my mind? I'm above that kind of childish behaviour and I'm not gonna sink to your level. Why are you even responding to my comments if you don't want to have an actual discussion.... or maybe this is the best you've got?
It's a waste of time talking to people like you, I've got better things to do with my life. For your own sake: either grow up, or go see a psuychiatrist
KamasutraButterfly 6 months ago
@KamasutraButterfly Die you fucking Cracker
atillawith 6 months ago
I like it, great
hzhangcom 3 years ago
to me, i dont think taoism is a religion, i dont believe in it like a religion. i think is just very wise words that comes with life experience. not like christianity, or muslim. its very deep and meanin full philosophy that only a few can understand. i read thru it when ever i am too competitive, or stressed. it calms me down, and makes me wise
MisterMee 3 years ago
I'd have to agree.
MaBu888 3 years ago
You are correct !!! as any student or master of the tao would say. Taoism is "NOT" a religion it is a way of life. the oldest person recorded to have ever lived was a taoist master. 252 years Li king yuen He practiced tai chi everday ans followed the dietary rule. No meat,dary,sugar ro alcohol. He won 3 awards from the chinese government. for longevity. And was a prominent professor. Also he at goji berries everyday. The healthiest food on earth. which promote hgh production and keeps you young.
annunnemesis 3 years ago
c'mon, with this antiquated pipe dream garbage you disgrace such a beautiful thing....the healthiest of men consume sugar to boost insulin to aid in nutrient absorption, sugar before meal not after,ever think maybe 252 years has nothing to do with time??? there is manyteachings which are koans, or pstories,stories,notbeing koans, it went over your head,vegetables have sugar,ervrtything in life is sugar,all energy,plant starch,complex sugars,even salts,some are similar, open your eyes...educate
shitbag139 3 years ago
I am talking about Cane sugar. Not the natural sugars you find in the foods you mentioned. Nothing went over my head as you put it. And the rest of what you say I can't make out. As far as the rest. What are koans? Pstories? Not beingKoans?ervtything? Enlighten me please !! Without getting personal.
annunnemesis 3 years ago
the calm is it, but the rest of what you said and being wise is not, that is only a perception, which is a thing,you are never wise, especially not from reading this, there is no wise, and no religion, there is what is,the goodness in humans is religion, the badness in humans is religion,there is no religion, thereis no tao
shitbag139 3 years ago
I am also a philosophical Taoist, I don't visit Taoist temples or anything like that, I don't really pay much attention to the religious aspects of Taoism such as the gods, but I believe they are just there as a kind of physical representation of the energy's, health, wealth and so on. So I wouldn't get too angry about it. I also believe that the spiritual side of Taoism isn't so much of a bad thing.
Bakahashiyo 3 years ago
The ball of heat in the stomach points to the nature of nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of natureof nature of nature, I'd say.
MaBu888 3 years ago
ma is on to something, but he smokes too much weed, u gotta balance weed with excercise,adrenaline for clarity and the clarity of the woods, and more often than not excercise restraint and clean out your system for some time
shitbag139 3 years ago
and he knows i am right, even if u all don't, this is his, but not really, it's no one and there is no it
shitbag139 3 years ago
I don't do weed. Also, I do ALOT of martial arts exercises and some meditation. I just described one meditation. Also, this discription was exaggerated. Since when did taoism's meditation stop being that of breathing and imagining a ball of heat in the lower abdomen? I say, it never ceased to be. That is basic qi gong right there, I dare say. However, I do agree with all the rest that you've said. I do train physically.
MaBu888 3 years ago
Any true taoist will tell you. tao is not a religion. religion contains the confines of supersticious doctrine. Where as truth(tao) cannot be contained by anything. You are right !!! The gods are mental constructs. Thats all.
annunnemesis 3 years ago
thank you, at least someone in this forum understands what Taoism is all about. At least you and stardingo747 have better understanding than that snake-oil Russian master Alex, the Charlatan Harlot Saida, and that hedonistic gnothean who think they "somehow" have achieved the Tao through false practices.
Daimyo612 3 years ago
Achieved the Tao through "false" practices?? If the Tao is achieved, then it is achieved. There are many paths to The Real, and some of them are toll roads. Few come prepared to pay as asked, and the Knowledge isn't free. Others, like yourself - more lazy, less desiring of illumination, and generally more fearful and prone to hypocritical thinking - take paths more commonly trodden and call those more daring than themselves, "misguided."
If my Tao is false, then so is yours, Daimyo612.
Gnothean 3 years ago
blah blah blah......... Go back to your mediation chamber (washroom) and rub a charmstone on your forehead douchebag.
Daimyo612 3 years ago
Taoism is one of the very few religions that actually encourages and delivers actual religious experience. Its "gods" are symbolic, memetics, allegorial entities that act as GUIs which allows interface with systems of energy and information. All is energy/information to a Taoist. It is a religion intended for people who have achieved a sufficient degree of psychological individuation from the oceanic collective consciousness. Enlightenment and memetic disinfection are distinct, but required.
Gnothean 3 years ago
This interview does not help any one learn anything of substance. I hear 'practical' but who walks away with practical knowledge of how to go on living after watching this.
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firumon 3 years ago
Fight.And always, know that you as a person, not a powerful spirit, you held your own.Peace.
mojo9197 3 years ago
I like you Alex, I'll tell you a story,If you love yourself,you can fight against anything.
mojo9197 3 years ago
Just be yourself (it's that simple)
Try to feel what is yourself and what is not. Travel, live alone for some time and you will know what you want and whether a motivation comes from yourself or from someone else.
Do you really want to study or is it only your friends and parents? Imagine a situation and feel if this is what you want or not. Be yang in your own things and ying if someone wants to influence you.
monkfg 3 years ago
This is truly one of the worst interviews I've ever seen.
Ballardian 4 years ago
ugh, religious Daoism.
Is cants stands religious Daoism.
Philosophical Daoism is simpler and less egomaniacal.
coded information.
mysticism.
not for everybody.
give me a break.
Daoism; Quantum Physics, but without the equations. That is really all it is.
stardingo747 4 years ago 12
There's an element of broken English from this guy that makes it somewhat difficult to understand the entirety of what he's saying. The conversation between them is going in circles.
mamatude33 4 years ago
However, not too sever, as the gist remains.
MaBu888 3 years ago
Nice ending.
Dyemonde 4 years ago
I am a follower of Tao, and there is no Tao
dan020350 4 years ago
that pearly silver void you see when you trip hardcore on some mushrooms most certainly is the infinate Tao
BongOfCthulu 4 years ago
I don't understand what you are saying because I think you are eating too much taoism mushrooms
dan020350 4 years ago
yes, that is the case.
BongOfCthulu 4 years ago
that is why you need rehabiliation
dan020350 4 years ago
I am not addicted to anything....
BongOfCthulu 4 years ago
yes you are, you are addicted to thoughts, systems of thought that you believe that you will attain something
dan020350 4 years ago
your telling me you dont think?
BongOfCthulu 4 years ago
I don't. Because you think, you don't know, and you are waiting for someone to agree with you and strengthening your reason, but you are not sure.
I don't think because I know.
dan020350 4 years ago
yes you are right. we must not think. we should just "be". That is the way of life.
BongOfCthulu 4 years ago
don't be anything, then you are
dan020350 4 years ago
yes...
BongOfCthulu 4 years ago
=(:))O~
dan020350 4 years ago
You mean I feel therefore i am not?
Dyemonde 4 years ago
I mean there is nothing, therefore there is nothing which I can call I am
dan020350 4 years ago
Thanks dmtherrien. I love taoism. This started after I read "The Tao of Pooh."
Your words have helped me alot. There are no taoists in Europe
rumple81 4 years ago
* Lao Tzu was the "founder" of the teachings of Taoism. -- FALSE. Lao Tzu did not found anything. Legend has it he simply wrote down what was the conventional wisdom of the time.
* Tao te Ching is the "bible" of taoism -- FALSE. Tao te Ching is not part of 'religious' taoism's cannon. It is a philosophical text.
markshao5 4 years ago
Actually, it is part of the Daoist canon, and highly revered in the Daoist religion. Many priests and monks are still expected to know the text. Check out the Daozang- it's in there, along with Zhuangzi and other "philosophical" works.
avantibarbari 4 years ago
Tao te Ching is NOT part of the Daoist "religious" cannon. Yes, it is part of the Daoist philosophical cannon. I've travelled extensively throughout China with my Chinese wife, visited many Daoist temples in cities, villages, mountains. I can assure you that today, as well as in the past, the Tao te Ching, the Chuang Tzu, etc., are NOT part of the Daoist 'religious' tradition or canon.
markshao5 4 years ago
What about the idea that Lao Tzu and Confucius were in fact the same, just Yin and Yang. Do you think there can be some validity to that idea?
GorillaPHX 3 years ago 2
Some Chinese schools of thought do believe this. I'm not sure but one school that might believe in this theory, would be The School of Naturalists/Yin-yang.
Personally I think it is valid.
Daimyo612 3 years ago
* There are "millions" of translations of the Tao te Ching. -- FALSE. Millions???? How many million, 7 million or 53 million? There might be several hundred or even a thousand translations. But a million? This guy is too lose with his facts.
* The "tao" separates people into groups. FALSE. People separate people into groups.
markshao5 4 years ago
* Spirits, gods, etc. -- FALSE. These are trappings of 'religious' taosim, which developed after Buddhism gained prominance in the court in China. Taoism took elements of shaimanism (folk religions) and developed a heiarchy and religious ritual in order to compete with Buddhism. Most of the taoist cannon does not talk about gods or spirits, except in the metaphorical way.
markshao5 4 years ago 2
Wrong, there is no evidence that Daoism formed to compete with Buddhism. This is just a myth, possibly started by Buddhists. The early Daoist religious movements had no resemblance to Buddhism, and had roots in ideas and practices long predating the entrance of Buddhism into China. I doubt you've read much of the Daoist canon at all, since you claim that the Dao De Jing is not part of it. In other words, you should learn some basic facts about this subject before raving about it on Youtube.
avantibarbari 4 years ago 2
Please see my reply above. You are confusing the Daoist "religious" cannon with the Daoist "philosophical" cannon. Daoism developed religious forms, rituals and cannon exactly at the time Buddhism gained prominence and favor in the court in China. Stop listening to this Russian bozo and read up on Daoist history. The Tao te Ching is NOT part of the Daoist religious cannon.
markshao5 4 years ago
Let's look at what he said in the video:
* The "Truth" of Tao -- FALSE. This is an anti-taoist statement. The tao cannot be named or known (according to the Tao te Ching) but some Russian 'master' has finally arrived to dispute this and tell it like it is? If Lao Tzu didn't know the "truth" about the tao, then this guy sure doesn't.
markshao5 4 years ago
you must be an idiot.
I commented on a video of some purported 'master' spewing garbage about taoism. it was junk. this guy's words demonstrate he is neither a taoist scholar or master practitioner.
YOU commented on my "soul." what experience do you have with my soul? you and this junk 'master' belong together confusing people with misinformation. taoism is not some new age religion. you both need to get educated.
markshao5 4 years ago
what a joke. pure junk.
markshao5 4 years ago
This dude is a stupid fucking fuck... dont listen to him
ONIXFLAME 4 years ago
u r rude. and you need manners if i saw you i would do the taoist open fist on your ass.
phatcrayonz 4 years ago
it is pronounced.... woa!
phatcrayonz 4 years ago
I think a Grand Master of the religion will know how to pronounce it. It is Dao spelled tao!
grimmmammoth 4 years ago
Vote Ron Paul
mattisava 4 years ago
what does ron paul have to do with taoism?
phatcrayonz 4 years ago
I am no expert but being a Chinese who grew up in Asia, its hard not to pick up some Taoism.
"Taoism" is a mix bag of many things (and many interpretations):
- Philosophy (Lau Tze, Chuang Tze ..etc)
- Martial Art (Kung Fu - different from Shao Lin, and Tai Chi)
- Religion - Deity, Gods, Devil ...etc.
- Medicine / healing
- Astrology / Feng Shui and much more.
An interesting note: Taoist are practical and rational. They invented compass, gun powder, Tai Chi, and more.
lucidmnd 4 years ago
He is not a good Tao teacher/representative. Tao is for everyone because its universal.Anatol talks about spirits n gods, thats all garbage because the Tao-Te-Ching never mentions any of that. The Tao can never be fully explained but it is basicly the force/energy behind everything in this bi-polar universe
mikealangelo 4 years ago
Taoism can include deity, gods, spirits and more.
lucidmnd 4 years ago
The Tao-Te-Ching is not the Taoist bible, it is one book (an important one, to be sure) in a huge canon of Taoist scriptures, so there are alot of things in Taoism you won't find in the Tao-te-ching. Taoism has always incorporated religious elements, including worship of deities. The idea that Taoism is just a non-theistic philosophy contained in a single book or a few books has nothing to do with the way Taoism has actually existed in China.
avantibarbari 4 years ago
Daoism has NOT always incorporated religious elements. If that were true, they would definitely be found, even in some small detail, in the Tao te Ching, Chuang Tzu, etc. Daoism became "religious" to compete with Buddhism. Of course, some schools of Daoism had religious elements to them before Buddhism gained prominence, but the full blown "religious" practices (believing in and praying to deities, sprits, etc.) did not exist in any major, developed way until Buddhism became dominant.
markshao5 4 years ago
First of all, the authors of the Dao De Jing and Zhuangzi did not call themselves Daoists, and were only considered Daoist in retrospect by their (religious) Daoist admirers much later. Historically speaking, there was no school called Daoism until religious movements arose bearing that name. Laozi and Zhuangzi were not even part of a single school themselves.
avantibarbari 4 years ago
To continue: Worship of deities existed in China long before the arrival of Buddhism, and some of these deities are mentioned in the book of Zhuangzi, such as Xiwangmu (Queen Mother of the West). You should also know that, while the Daodejing and Zhuangzi are highly revered in Daoism, they are far from the only source texts for the tradition.
avantibarbari 4 years ago
Finally: If you want to insist that Daoism was organized into a religion to compete with Buddhism, the burden of proof is on you. For example, which Buddhist ideas do you find in the teachings of Zhang Daoling? In his time, Buddhism had barely even penetrated into China and very few Chinese were familiar with it- it was far from dominant as you assume.
avantibarbari 4 years ago
What I understand is that the nature of man is always drawn to the mystic. Philosophy, practical philosophy, always seems inevitably to be risen to mysticism at some point or another. Taoism more than likely started out in its infancy as a philosophical venture, eventually elements of mysticism were integrated into the philosophy; gods are born and created. Buddhism at its core was very practical yet over time Therevada became Mahayana, and Tibetin Buddhism brought mysticism to the table.
GorillaPHX 3 years ago
Your right, but what started out as truth, end up becoming null and void. Take the example of Christianity, it started out as beautiful and in some case revolutionary, but today some denominations (Evangelists, John Hagee & Benny Hinn) and churches (Rome) have made Jesus and his teachings a joke.
Daimyo612 3 years ago
Well I am not exactly saying that. And maybe I am misunderstanding you but, all I was saying is that when a philosophical movement is developed, and the masses of people adopt it, that eventually they seem to incorporate mysticism and turn it into religion. But I am not saying that this is always bad. I am saying that it is in the nature of man to seek wisdom from the ethereal. I am not sure that I can say that it is either good nor bad; I certainly didn't intend it as a judgment on man kind.
GorillaPHX 3 years ago 2
Very good video, he knows what he's talkin about.
LuNyTiX 4 years ago
"... lineage to basically Lao Tzu". Hahaha! Yeah fucking right.
"Coded information"? If you're stupid, I guess.
Religious Taoism is so sad. Total corruption of the original text.
sosiopat 4 years ago 2
I agree. I guess you have to look at it like an exoteric version, while the philosophical writings of Lao Zi and Zhuang Zi (no Gods of Wealth there) can be considered esoteric.
Shutendoji 4 years ago
ya, he contradict himself when he said that Lao Tzu's identity is a mystery.
lucidmnd 4 years ago
All Taoism is religious... The "original text" (I assume you mean Tao Te Ching) is only one of thousands of Taoist scriptures.
avantibarbari 4 years ago
the host is sooooo ignorant, it drives me crazy.
bears132 4 years ago
The title is really misleading. What this guy is talking about is only a branch of taoism called religious taoism, not to be confused with the original philosophy. So it's not The Truth about taoism, it's only an aspect of it.
Patti41 4 years ago 4
I don't get why they keep saying it's 'dao', the correct pronounciation is 'tao'. Ask any Mandarin-speaking person.
Patti41 4 years ago
I think Dao is accurate.
danpt2000 4 years ago
its dao
solomonkane123 4 years ago
I've done some research on this and apparently the unaspirated T sounds more like a D to Western ears. But for me as a Chinese, it sounds really wrong. Personally, I think the Wade-Giles system is more accurate.
Patti41 4 years ago 2
I speak mandarin and thus agree that its "Tao". I dunno where "Dao" comes from, sounds like a translation.
The point is, "Tao" means "The Way" or the law of nature.
lucidmnd 4 years ago
Dude, if you speak Mandarin, then you should use
Dao instead of Tao, since Tao is Cantonese.
everbeyond 4 years ago
Dou is cantonese, as in jit kun dou, also written as jeet kune do.
MaBu888 3 years ago
Cool.
w0rldpeace 4 years ago