This has been slowed for training purposes, and is part of a DVD collection which has all the Dentokan Shorin Ryu kata slow from 4 directions and once thru at full speed. I also has all of the bunkai.
i sensei once told me he has his students do kata at 3 speeds...slow to perfect intricacies of movements so you can do them fast correctly..as well as meditation type stuff. regular speed for obvious reasons, and fast, obviously to build speed, and if you can do it correctly fast, regular speed will be no problem.
thanks aiko...basically he says...kata is what you make it. not this or that way exactly, or if you do it that way it's no longer shorin ryu...put all the versions of shorin together and anylize them, they are more simelar than different, and the simelarities are what make them all shorin.
Doing kata slow, makes u easy to learn techniques correctly.. And speed and power and understanding born by slow movements.. If you practice tai Chi, u will understand that.. Also, kata has two parts, internal kata and external kata.. Slow kata is very important to build your external kata.. But, I firmly believe, a student must have a root for a certain system, if he practice Shorin.. :)
what do you mean he/she must have a root for a certain system? i agree start slowly, to get the movements, then speed and power will come naturally. then do it too fast to visualize mistakes when you hurry, and to make it faster (and a workout) then return to the beginning for training the spirit
I mean, she/he must hv the itentity of his/her tradition. Not mixed everything together. Specially, when doing a traditional system like Shorin-ryu.. But, u may hv another view. Tht's the beauty of an art.. No two ppl think in same way. Tht leads creativity and development of any art.. Same for martial arts :)
you're right i have a different view. creativity and developement are the keys. not just blindly following tradition for the sake of doing so. karate by its very nature is a mix. "traditional"..what makes an art traditional are teaching and training methods, not curriculum alone.
i never understood the need to do things exactly as taught, that is nothing but a carbon copy of your instructor. everyone says dont change kata, but no two ppl do it the same...well which is it? creativity and uniqueness can't be helped. the traditions, teaching methods are whats important. this or that kata is meaningless in itsself, what does it teach you? thats the real gift.
Being a shorin-ryu stylist, I think the kata is actually a good one. I think an argument about the "right" and "wrong" is silly. It depends on what your judging the kata by, and whether or not you understand the original intent of the kata.
that's becuase originally tkd was shotokan karate, then general choi(who trained in japan in shotokan) changed the forms, and added tae kyon kicks. and created a uniquely korean karate.
hi there aiko4321, I do joshinmon in NZ. It"s mostly shobayashi I believe, You can get more info by google if you wish. cheers Rob.
bigrobnz 4 years ago
I do shorin ryu in New Zealand and ours is very similar indeed,I think it was well done and any one with experiance can see that
bigrobnz 4 years ago
Shorin Ryu practicioner from New Zealand.? Wow.. Nice to know u :)
aiko4321 4 years ago
Which style of Shorin Ryu my friend? and who s the grand master? I'm from SHorin Ryu Kyudokan (Kobayashi) :)
aiko4321 4 years ago
i wonder, is dentokan based in matsubayashi ryu?
kempobrad 4 years ago
It's a strange version of Kushanku..
The tecniques are similar to other shorin schools, but i wonder where the sokuto - yoko geri and kokutsu dachi come from.. Modernizations?
Aniway very clean and sharp execution!
kalidor1986 4 years ago
This has been slowed for training purposes, and is part of a DVD collection which has all the Dentokan Shorin Ryu kata slow from 4 directions and once thru at full speed. I also has all of the bunkai.
davenewell1979 4 years ago
i sensei once told me he has his students do kata at 3 speeds...slow to perfect intricacies of movements so you can do them fast correctly..as well as meditation type stuff. regular speed for obvious reasons, and fast, obviously to build speed, and if you can do it correctly fast, regular speed will be no problem.
kempobrad 4 years ago
I agree with kempobrad s sensei
aiko4321 4 years ago
thanks aiko...basically he says...kata is what you make it. not this or that way exactly, or if you do it that way it's no longer shorin ryu...put all the versions of shorin together and anylize them, they are more simelar than different, and the simelarities are what make them all shorin.
kempobrad 4 years ago
Doing kata slow, makes u easy to learn techniques correctly.. And speed and power and understanding born by slow movements.. If you practice tai Chi, u will understand that.. Also, kata has two parts, internal kata and external kata.. Slow kata is very important to build your external kata.. But, I firmly believe, a student must have a root for a certain system, if he practice Shorin.. :)
aiko4321 4 years ago
what do you mean he/she must have a root for a certain system? i agree start slowly, to get the movements, then speed and power will come naturally. then do it too fast to visualize mistakes when you hurry, and to make it faster (and a workout) then return to the beginning for training the spirit
kempobrad 4 years ago
I mean, she/he must hv the itentity of his/her tradition. Not mixed everything together. Specially, when doing a traditional system like Shorin-ryu.. But, u may hv another view. Tht's the beauty of an art.. No two ppl think in same way. Tht leads creativity and development of any art.. Same for martial arts :)
aiko4321 4 years ago
you're right i have a different view. creativity and developement are the keys. not just blindly following tradition for the sake of doing so. karate by its very nature is a mix. "traditional"..what makes an art traditional are teaching and training methods, not curriculum alone.
kempobrad 4 years ago
i never understood the need to do things exactly as taught, that is nothing but a carbon copy of your instructor. everyone says dont change kata, but no two ppl do it the same...well which is it? creativity and uniqueness can't be helped. the traditions, teaching methods are whats important. this or that kata is meaningless in itsself, what does it teach you? thats the real gift.
kempobrad 4 years ago
Being a shorin-ryu stylist, I think the kata is actually a good one. I think an argument about the "right" and "wrong" is silly. It depends on what your judging the kata by, and whether or not you understand the original intent of the kata.
ronin752 4 years ago
This is so alien, yet similar.
As a TK-D practicioner, some of the stuff is so wrong, yet other things are just right. Well, different styles, different preferences I guess :)
KillaHaakon 5 years ago
This kata is not done at it's best, that's for sure, but TK-D katas to me are just a crappy version of Karate Do katas.
Tigre69 5 years ago
Well, that's your opinion.
OTOH, check out NTN's shit on youtube. They do ITF better than ITF. (Which is kind of sad, but still...)
Perhaps you will see things differently then?
KillaHaakon 5 years ago
that's becuase originally tkd was shotokan karate, then general choi(who trained in japan in shotokan) changed the forms, and added tae kyon kicks. and created a uniquely korean karate.
kempobrad 4 years ago
I dont know if any of these noobs have noticed, but this guy is doing a demo kata, half speed so the fucking idiots can see it. DAMN!!
kamikaze80 5 years ago
Is he holding back a little bit?
mambonumber9 5 years ago