The Series - Part 16: The True Eden Part 1

[jafer909]

there you go I have further elaborated my point and please don drag it alog without any reasonable argument,NOT into Debate or the sake of debate.

[agreeableviews816]

barak Allahu feek

[jafer909]

@ agreeableviews816

Brother, I have already explained what Ahle Sunna wal Jamat Stands for, and who represnts it and that I firmly believe that this is the SECT that Huzoor Alehe salato wassalm wanted Us to be in. Muslims is NOT a Sect isit? SUNNI's, Salafi's, shia, wahbi etc are all Muslims are'nt they And I think that you wud also agree that Hassan and Hussain Razi Allah Unhu were not all of these were they?

[THELlGHT]

the best info part iv seen brother,after watching this something as strokeed me..thanks for share brother..peace

[THELlGHT]

@THELlGHT

lool i meant struck me...my bad brother..salaam

[agreeableviews816]

lol, ma sha' Allah. wasalaam, ya akhi.

[jafer909]

If thats what you think about Shia's and Sunni's then I am affraid you have a very Limited knowlede abt Shiaism and Ahle Sunnat Wa Jamat.

By the way... Sheikh I Hosein said himself That Imam Mehdi will be a SUNNI. What would your response to the sheikh will be????

[agreeableviews816]

Did the Prophet, sala Allahu 'alaihi wasalaam, say that Imam al-Mahdi will be a Sunni? Because I know that since there are supposed to be 72 or 73 sects of Islam according to the Prophet, sala Allahu 'alaihi wasalaam, I also know that the term "Ahl as-Sunnah wa al-Jamat" might at that end time be used to coin a multitude of blind followers.

So what did Muhammad, peace upon him, say about the "sect" that his progeny will be?

salaam

[jafer909]

Prophet sallAllahu alaihi wasallam said My Ummah will be divided into 73 sects, 72 are in hellfire." The sahabah asked "who are the saved sect?" He sallAllahu alaihi wasallam said: "Al Jama'ah"." [Sunan ibn Majah 3982, Kitab Al Fitan] He sallAllahu alaihi wasallam also said:"The meaning of Al Jama'ah is Ahl Al Ilm, Allah made them hujjah on the people, and made the people follow them, .."And also : Allah will never gather this Ummah in misguidance. (85% of Muslims arround the Globe are SUNNI )

[jafer909]

And I did'nt really expect u to be that blasphemous in your views. wen you used the words blind followers, didn't for a single moment u thought that All the 4 Imams are Ahle sunnah wa jamat, the Books of ahadiths like Sahaih Bukhari, Muslim, Sunan abi daood etc u read are written by scholars of Ahle Sunna wa jamat, Scholars like Imam Navavi and Al Ghazali were from Ahle Sunnah Wa jamat... Allah Himself made these Ahl Al Ilm hujjah for people like ME.

[jafer909]

AAANND........ His sallAllahu alaihi wasalam, progeny will be from Al Jama'ah which I and many Prominent Muslims Believe is Ahle Sunnat Wa Jammat InshaAllah.

[agreeableviews816]

The reason why you didn't really expect me to be that "blasphemous" is because I wasn't really blasphemous; you interpreted it that way. You indicated that the progeny of the Prophet, sala Allahu 'alaihi wasalaam, will be from ahl as-Sunnah; does this mean that Hassan and Hussain were Sunni's?

Allah hafez.

[sowhatsowhatsowhattt]

did progeny of holy prophet claimed to be shia?

no they are muslim, not belong to any sect,

imam jafar sadiq, his great students such as imam abu hanifah, imam malik etc became great scholar in fiqh thought for ahlul sunnah wal jamaah

or school of thought

how come imam jafar sadiq is shia if his students become great scholars of al jamaah?

sheikh abdul kadir jilani, progeny of Muhammad s.a.w, from both hasan and husin lineage, also ahlul sunnah wal jamaah,

stop label them

[jafer909]

NEED clarification please....

Are you a Sunni Or a Shia???? I mean a Shia would'nt use Hadiths from Hazrat Aisha razi Allah anha or Hazrat Abu Huraira razi Allah anhu.....

And a Sunni would'nt recommend one to watch videos made by SHIAs.

You have quoted Abdullah Hashem a few times in ur series and now inviting them to watch his series?

Abdullah Hashem is a SHIA and belives that Hazrat Imam Mahdi is already among us and trufuly his videos are very misleading.

[agreeableviews816]

His entire series is very informative, ma sha' Allah. Simply because he chose Shi'a Islam, doesn't mean that everyone who promotes his series is Shi'a as well. If you feel offended already, I cannot help that feeling.

salaam

[jafer909]

Waalaiqum Assalam....

well there are loads of other videos which are very Informative and many other speakers with much more and Authentic knowledge then A.Hashem.

All non-ignorant sunnis believe that Shiaism is a great fitnah among Muslims... And even Sheikh I Hussain have condemnd Shiaism.

You cant have it both ways brothers... Shia and sunni are two seprate ways, One leading to Truth and other to DAJJAL.

There's somthing NOT quite right about your videos.

[agreeableviews816]

al-hamdu lillah, then. My videos are all inspired by 'Abdullah Hashem, so that might be what's NOT quite right.

[jafer909]

@agreeableviews816

Whats not quite right? Shiaism being a fitnah or your videos being inspired by the Fitnah???

hey! how about we just cut it short and you just give your brief view about the SHIAISM.

[agreeableviews816]

Shi'a Islam is a branch of Islam. According to Shi'a Muslims, 'Ali was the rightly guided successor and they believe that the Ahl al-Bait were all infallible. I, however, never met them, so I cannot say I agree. Their jurisprudence is such that I choose to not follow their doctrines. I believe that since we're all fallible humans that we must make mistakes. Labelling oneself as a Shi'a or a Sunni is included in that. So there you have it: Shi'a Islam is a branch from Islam due to human error.

[agreeableviews816]

2) Sunni Islam is also a branch of Islam due to human error. So is every other "sect". I'm sure you know this all already. Since The Series is inspired by 'Abdullah Hashem, then if you consider that a fitnah (and so do a lot of other people) then still, I cannot soothe your personal feelings.

Allah hafez.

[jafer909]

My comment was a response to ur commment.... where's ur comment gone???????????

[agreeableviews816]

All of your and my comments remain posted here. As for your previous comments, I'm glad Allah has guided those whom He willed and as for those whom He has led astray, not even His Messengers can guide them. On the Day of Judgement, Allah will inform us all of what we did in this life. Everything from the humans' good deeds to the lies that came out of the humans' mouthes.

[JDubyaPDX]

If David Icke is so smart why is he not Muslim?!?!

[agreeableviews816]

Allah guides whom He wills to a Straight Path and misleads whom He wills, and as for him in whose heart is a disease, for such you will find no helper for him against Allah.

[KhalidMahmood0070]

Allah give you power,Hakeem Zaid Hamid.

[afglionheart]

i am glad we muslim slowly we are waking... inshallah we will win we will dominate and peace will come to world.... with the will of allah....

[mzjwright]

I'm looking forward to watching these one by one eh! :D Thanks for sharing and for doing what you do! This is a great series and collection..well done! Was Salaam Wa Rahmatullah!

[omarlondon]

is it possible to use a "play all" button on the whole series? if so pls show me how akhi

[agreeableviews816]

Click on the Playlist option in my channel, in sha' Allah. jazakum Allahu khairun