glad to see a pontiac still owning. i have a 05 gto and any pontiac car that wins is good to see. if i were the owner of this fiero i would have stayed away from the 3.4 garbage. IMO. i woulda went with a 3800 with the m90 eaton blower, did ported intake. north* TB 42# injectors, zzp fuel pump, 3.4 mps pully, ported s/c, either cam or rockers. with a wicked exhaust. IMO or a gen v s/c if it would fit. no to sure. good race
The Gti can't drive. Btw highly doubt it was 20psi. Maybe spiking but not holding. No offense to your car at all but if it was really 20psi and a decent driver outcome would have been different.
Great video, and good build on the Fiero, so do you just ship your cams to Steve Long, and he re-grinds them then ships them back to you? and how much does he charge per 4 cam re-grinds on an LQ1? and one more thing, I understood all of your modifications, but what chip did you get? and how much difference did it make??... I will be re-building my LQ1-powered GTP soon and am trying to get some ideas ^_^
@TacticalSuperRebel I got my chip through sinister performance, he can do chips for 91-93's and 94-95's. I got a spare set of cams to ship to Steve, but you could just send the ones out of your engine. I believe turn around time would be about 3-4 weeks. You'll want to contact Steve on pricing but I believe it is about 150 per cam so 600 or so total?
First a friend showed me the vid, later i saw it again, the whole video this time and it even says it's a 5 speed in the intro. Yeah, felt real stupid then.
I have an '01 GTI, and a 94 Cutlass with the 3.4DOHC.The 3.4 has been bored,ported, etc... The GTI has a Neuspeed chip and intake. They're both pretty quick. The GTI is a 5 speed, and the cutlass is a 4T60E. The GTI spins a lot more than the Cutlass.
Here's what I'll say about the 3.4 vs the 1.8T. To get more power from the 3.4 you have to grab a wrench and open your hood. To get it from the 1.8T you just need a laptop and several hunder $ worth of software...
i put an 89 cutlass ciera 3.8 in my 85 fiero gt with 3.33 gr 4 sp ovrdrive. C-class Mercedes couldnt hang when i had a cyl out and a locked up frnt brk caliper at track. Mustang couldnt hang on street till halfway through 2nd. AND I HAVE A 94 CADILLAC NORTHSTAR V8 AT A FREINDS SHOP THAT I TRADED A GETRAG FOR WAITING TO GET STARTED ON.
For me this race is between the car I was serious about buying, and the car I actually did buy. I was going to buy my friend's fiero 2.8 V6 with 5 speed getrag, but I got a 20th anniversary gti 1.8t. There is no comparison stock for stock.
1.8t's are slow you could of had a grand prix gtp for the same money which is much faster or you could swap a gtp motor into a fiero which depending on the year of the gtp is 600-800lbs less, btw the 97-98 gtp's pull 14.9 in the 1/4 mile stock(it only comes in auto) just think of how fast it would be in a car thats nearly 700lbs lighter
I beat my friend tony's gtp so I don't regret it. I don' want an automatic long ass grand prix that is kinda quick in the straights but does shit in the turns. Yes a fiero with this swap would do better than my car, but in the end I made the right choice. My car is an 03 with low miles and my friend's fiero was an 86 with 180000 miles and needed work.
what from a roll b/c thats not a real race lol you wouldn't even touch my gtp with only a few mod's lol i have a cai 3inch dp 160stat and a pcm and i pulled a 14.07 in the 1/4mile in N.J. and your friend doesn't take care of his car if you were able to pull on him a gtp can run as slow as a mid 15sec 1/4 if not taken care of (like changing the supercharger oil and the plugs, is very big thing for this car, b/c the stock plugs cause knock which slows the car greatly)
i've taken a 1.8t when i was stock any way but i have a 98 gtp the new gtp's are slower brand new they only pull 15.2's was the best they ever did but i take car of my car unlike your friend either he's got a 99 or newer gtp or you did it from a roll race not from a dead stop because the gtp has alot of low end power and nothing up top
plus since the 1/4 mile i've got headers a short stack ic for the down sized pully and upgraded the fuel system but i gotta save up b/c i wanna buy a new motor and tranny for the future b/c it can't last for ever motors and tranny go,
p.s
yes the tranny was upgraded a lil b/c the stock tranny is weak
Kind of confused as to why you would go with a manual over a well built auto?
You are missing out on the torque multiplication, no shift delay, and less maintenance. very confused. Is it the old "a manual trans is better cause I say it is" mentality?
I drive a manual trans car too, but not by choice, it was cheaper. But I'm paying for it now. 2 TOB's, and now a whole new clutch set, flywheel machining, quadrant/adjuster replacement, etc. swapping it out for an auto ASAP. freaking mustangs.
a manual trans is better for the model and year. the auto had pulled out a lot of torque and horses because the tuning on them just suxked you could drive faster with a stick and got way better gas mpgs.
come pick up my old auto trans anytime you want just dont come begging to me when you feel the horsepower loss.
It cannot predict the future of throttle position. How many times have you been driving an auto and had it upshift right before you were about to accelerate harder. Then you got to wait for it to kickdown again, and generally getting it to kickdown again means accelerating harder than you originally were going to. Not to mention a manual tranny is lighter and more compact, two major bonuses for a Fiero.
well for one the only thing a well built stockish transmission has is a better off the line reaction since they dont spin the tires as much other than that they are worthless after about 60mph. and if you have had that many problems with a manual drive train its the driver not the parts.
I have to agree with these guys the manual is the way to go. I can shift faster through the gears in my GTI no problem. Especially my 3rd for 4th gear transition its lighting quick and thats with a stock gear box. If I were to upgrade to a short shift it would be that much quicker. Not to mention the control you have the car. Auto limit that IMHO...
The manual(Getrag HM282/284) has 5 gears instead of four(no 5-speed autos that'll fit), much better gear ratios, and you can sometimes find LSDs for them. In this car, the manual makes MUCH mor sense(plus it's way more fun!)
Yeah this car needed tuning and bigger injectors REALLY bad in this video. After some 36lb injectors and a little work with chips it felt noticably quicker. It went 13.5@105 later that summer.
The music is so irritating. lol.
asdfgoogle 3 weeks ago
glad to see a pontiac still owning. i have a 05 gto and any pontiac car that wins is good to see. if i were the owner of this fiero i would have stayed away from the 3.4 garbage. IMO. i woulda went with a 3800 with the m90 eaton blower, did ported intake. north* TB 42# injectors, zzp fuel pump, 3.4 mps pully, ported s/c, either cam or rockers. with a wicked exhaust. IMO or a gen v s/c if it would fit. no to sure. good race
johnson05GTO 2 months ago
Yeah what shall I say, I drive a Fiero, work for VW in germany...
FIERO FUCK'N RULES!
TheMegaSatan 4 months ago
Keep it on the TRACK!
WARFOX101 4 months ago
gay
colouredbills 5 months ago
Where did you get the cams?
LamboMaN891 8 months ago
The Gti can't drive. Btw highly doubt it was 20psi. Maybe spiking but not holding. No offense to your car at all but if it was really 20psi and a decent driver outcome would have been different.
HyperformanceGti 9 months ago
The Fiero is an affordable exotic. The Golf is a shoe box.
tubumu 9 months ago
GO FIERO GO!!! RAPE THAT MUTHA FUCKIN IMPORT TRASH CAN!!
HMTOlympic 11 months ago
Kick that Import-Ass!! I have a Fiero myself...
westworth327 1 year ago
Kick that Import-Ass
westworth327 1 year ago
Where did you get the bart simpson decal on the back window?
biscayne427 1 year ago
@biscayne427
Years ago off ebay.
FnBobSaget 1 year ago
for once someone has a good song in their race videos. nice call on hot action cop
drummerblade 1 year ago
Yeah, kick that VW's ass! The Fiero rocks man.
p4horror 1 year ago
Street racing is for those who want to kill themselves and others, keep it on the track!
WARFOX101 1 year ago
Agreed, thats where I first heard it.
FnBobSaget 1 year ago
lol this song reminds me of playing need for speed hot pursute 2
richarded22 1 year ago
Very nice race! good job building the fiero
Twinchrgd22 1 year ago
@Twinchrgd22 Thank you. It's turbo now, check out the rest of my videos... Still in fine tuning phases but it's MUCH quicker now.
FnBobSaget 1 year ago
@FnBobSaget The 3400 is direct bolt in right? Just need the 3400 flywheel right? Nothing else custom except for wiring... right?
psychoninja911 1 year ago
@psychoninja911
The 3400 is different than a 3.4 dohc. You are asking me very loaded questions...
FnBobSaget 1 year ago
lol 1.8 ts are always slow apparently even with mods
EZFI 1 year ago
Great video, and good build on the Fiero, so do you just ship your cams to Steve Long, and he re-grinds them then ships them back to you? and how much does he charge per 4 cam re-grinds on an LQ1? and one more thing, I understood all of your modifications, but what chip did you get? and how much difference did it make??... I will be re-building my LQ1-powered GTP soon and am trying to get some ideas ^_^
TacticalSuperRebel 2 years ago
@TacticalSuperRebel I got my chip through sinister performance, he can do chips for 91-93's and 94-95's. I got a spare set of cams to ship to Steve, but you could just send the ones out of your engine. I believe turn around time would be about 3-4 weeks. You'll want to contact Steve on pricing but I believe it is about 150 per cam so 600 or so total?
FnBobSaget 1 year ago
that's a nice shade of blue you've got on that car
divooriginale 2 years ago
First a friend showed me the vid, later i saw it again, the whole video this time and it even says it's a 5 speed in the intro. Yeah, felt real stupid then.
onenexus 2 years ago
Ah, 5 speed, the muncie is the 4 speed. All mine have been the muncie 4 spd.
onenexus 2 years ago
Is the fiero a auto? The auto trans in the fiero is geared slow as shit and will make even a very fast car slow.
onenexus 2 years ago
said he had a getrag so manual
92greenz34 2 years ago
Dude, does it sound like the Fiero was manual? Could you not see me shifting?
FnBobSaget 2 years ago 4
Sweet video. Whats the name of that song?
JoshChadwick 2 years ago
It's "Fever for The Flava" by Hot Action Cop. :D
WalmartProModel 2 years ago
Thanks dude love your name lol
JoshChadwick 2 years ago
No problem, and thank you. Haha.
WalmartProModel 2 years ago
Oh, and when you break something on your GM, you don't have to take out a second mortgage on your house to pay for the repair.
F'in Germans...
VinXLQ1 2 years ago
I have an '01 GTI, and a 94 Cutlass with the 3.4DOHC.The 3.4 has been bored,ported, etc... The GTI has a Neuspeed chip and intake. They're both pretty quick. The GTI is a 5 speed, and the cutlass is a 4T60E. The GTI spins a lot more than the Cutlass.
Here's what I'll say about the 3.4 vs the 1.8T. To get more power from the 3.4 you have to grab a wrench and open your hood. To get it from the 1.8T you just need a laptop and several hunder $ worth of software...
Good vid
VinXLQ1 2 years ago
Take that V DUB GM CARS RULE!!!!!
74ChevyVegaMan 2 years ago
I enjoy this video. Nice pulls.
ls3mach 2 years ago
and its an AUTO by the way!!!
adalhall 3 years ago
i put an 89 cutlass ciera 3.8 in my 85 fiero gt with 3.33 gr 4 sp ovrdrive. C-class Mercedes couldnt hang when i had a cyl out and a locked up frnt brk caliper at track. Mustang couldnt hang on street till halfway through 2nd. AND I HAVE A 94 CADILLAC NORTHSTAR V8 AT A FREINDS SHOP THAT I TRADED A GETRAG FOR WAITING TO GET STARTED ON.
adalhall 3 years ago
For me this race is between the car I was serious about buying, and the car I actually did buy. I was going to buy my friend's fiero 2.8 V6 with 5 speed getrag, but I got a 20th anniversary gti 1.8t. There is no comparison stock for stock.
MarioK20 3 years ago
1.8t's are slow you could of had a grand prix gtp for the same money which is much faster or you could swap a gtp motor into a fiero which depending on the year of the gtp is 600-800lbs less, btw the 97-98 gtp's pull 14.9 in the 1/4 mile stock(it only comes in auto) just think of how fast it would be in a car thats nearly 700lbs lighter
nickv11763 2 years ago
I beat my friend tony's gtp so I don't regret it. I don' want an automatic long ass grand prix that is kinda quick in the straights but does shit in the turns. Yes a fiero with this swap would do better than my car, but in the end I made the right choice. My car is an 03 with low miles and my friend's fiero was an 86 with 180000 miles and needed work.
Diastavrones 2 years ago
what from a roll b/c thats not a real race lol you wouldn't even touch my gtp with only a few mod's lol i have a cai 3inch dp 160stat and a pcm and i pulled a 14.07 in the 1/4mile in N.J. and your friend doesn't take care of his car if you were able to pull on him a gtp can run as slow as a mid 15sec 1/4 if not taken care of (like changing the supercharger oil and the plugs, is very big thing for this car, b/c the stock plugs cause knock which slows the car greatly)
nickv11763 2 years ago
It was modified with intake and throttle body spacers. My car was stock.
Diastavrones 2 years ago
i've taken a 1.8t when i was stock any way but i have a 98 gtp the new gtp's are slower brand new they only pull 15.2's was the best they ever did but i take car of my car unlike your friend either he's got a 99 or newer gtp or you did it from a roll race not from a dead stop because the gtp has alot of low end power and nothing up top
nickv11763 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
It's the older one.
Diastavrones 2 years ago
yeah but it was from a roll not a dig i raped a 1.8t from a dig stock for stock
nickv11763 2 years ago
plus since the 1/4 mile i've got headers a short stack ic for the down sized pully and upgraded the fuel system but i gotta save up b/c i wanna buy a new motor and tranny for the future b/c it can't last for ever motors and tranny go,
p.s
yes the tranny was upgraded a lil b/c the stock tranny is weak
nickv11763 2 years ago
Where did you get the custom cams? I thought custom speed parts were virturally non exsistant
w41duvernay 2 years ago
Steve Long Racing Cams of California did some custom re-grinds for me. As far as I know there are four sets of re ground 3.4 dohc cams in existance.
FnBobSaget 2 years ago
Its looks nice, I never saw it before
juanete838 3 years ago
Kind of confused as to why you would go with a manual over a well built auto?
You are missing out on the torque multiplication, no shift delay, and less maintenance. very confused. Is it the old "a manual trans is better cause I say it is" mentality?
I drive a manual trans car too, but not by choice, it was cheaper. But I'm paying for it now. 2 TOB's, and now a whole new clutch set, flywheel machining, quadrant/adjuster replacement, etc. swapping it out for an auto ASAP. freaking mustangs.
Outlander11 3 years ago
a manual trans is better for the model and year. the auto had pulled out a lot of torque and horses because the tuning on them just suxked you could drive faster with a stick and got way better gas mpgs.
come pick up my old auto trans anytime you want just dont come begging to me when you feel the horsepower loss.
coddeGT 3 years ago
Well, I dislike auto transmissions because...
It cannot predict the future of throttle position. How many times have you been driving an auto and had it upshift right before you were about to accelerate harder. Then you got to wait for it to kickdown again, and generally getting it to kickdown again means accelerating harder than you originally were going to. Not to mention a manual tranny is lighter and more compact, two major bonuses for a Fiero.
FnBobSaget 3 years ago
well for one the only thing a well built stockish transmission has is a better off the line reaction since they dont spin the tires as much other than that they are worthless after about 60mph. and if you have had that many problems with a manual drive train its the driver not the parts.
ericjackson40 3 years ago
I have to agree with these guys the manual is the way to go. I can shift faster through the gears in my GTI no problem. Especially my 3rd for 4th gear transition its lighting quick and thats with a stock gear box. If I were to upgrade to a short shift it would be that much quicker. Not to mention the control you have the car. Auto limit that IMHO...
Ebagramirez 3 years ago
The manual(Getrag HM282/284) has 5 gears instead of four(no 5-speed autos that'll fit), much better gear ratios, and you can sometimes find LSDs for them. In this car, the manual makes MUCH mor sense(plus it's way more fun!)
FurryHusky 3 years ago
Yeah this car needed tuning and bigger injectors REALLY bad in this video. After some 36lb injectors and a little work with chips it felt noticably quicker. It went 13.5@105 later that summer.
FnBobSaget 3 years ago
i have the same motor in a 95 gtp and i beat 1.8t all the time. stock. =] nice car.
sycopath417 3 years ago
I'm actually really shocked that none of the GTi owners have been posting back on this yet.
FnBobSaget 3 years ago
go fiero!
boubouson 3 years ago
ya fieros kick ass
tokeNRez 3 years ago
gotta love how u just sloowly pass him
boubouson 3 years ago
Man that cameraman is the shit,lol. Bypass races woo woo!!!
boostnacr 3 years ago