"meh, a seven year old can ask "why?" over and over again?"
YES, but can a 7yr old CALL YOU OUT...when EVER u duck points, dodge-facts, change-subjects, straw-man, ad-hom, quote-mine, employ "AliceInWonderland-Logic", attempt to insight anger with thinly-veiled insults & play EVERY other petty, CHILDISH "debate" tactic of a "dissinformationalist"?
Popular Mechanics -sucking the Man's cock since 2001.
WTF do you expect from a "science magazine" that is aimed squarely at "Tim The Toolman Taylor"?...you can TELL 90% of the "debunkers" on Youtube, that ALWAYS pretend to be "engineers", "pilots" , "military personnel" as they spread their LIES (CTcole, Edgeman,TerryManning ect ect) are really just narcissistic, low-iq, NO life-experience, unsuccessful, suburban loud-mouth, popular-mechanics FAN BOYS , well and truly BUTTHURT at finding their favourite magazine is as full of shit as they are.
The term pull it is used when cables are attached to a building. Please show me a video of the buidling 7 attached and pulled with cables and bulldozers. The terms used in the quote was directed at the fire chief, and it's clear that by pull it, he means the fire operation. Why would Sliverstein or the fire chief know anything about demolition. The DNA from the hijackers was taken from the their cars mainly their steering wheels. All are dead, just ask the families, they've come forward
@heafers84 .. why would they?.. because they were part of the setup?. How do you explain all the police and fire men tellign everyone to move back because the building was about to explain - people then moved back and it fell down. How do you explain them reportign live that the building had collapsed before it had happened? why didnt they report on building 3 4 5 6????
@randomtrader1 "you explain all the police and fire men tellign everyone to move back " Because quotes clearly tell us that the FF that were in the building heard creeking and that the building was swaying heavily. They also didn't have adequate water pressure, so they couldn't fight the fire. So, they "pulled" their operation and told everyone to get back in case it fell. Good thing they told them, b/c it did. Reporting before it fell was just a mistake, buildings 3,4,5,6 were crushed.
If ten yrs later you still dont get why 911 was done, you never will...It is funny to look back and watch that day and all the bullshit propaganda to follow,the wars, police state, patroit act, tsa... thats why we live in Nazi germany now..and zero was ever proven, cause they cant..just belive us, the govt...LMFAO
@4624tone How is the US like Nazi Germany? Please enlighten us. We're not rounding up Jews and killing them off. There's not a coup to take over the gov. There's no idea of superior races.
@heafers84 SS police style, police state run by jews this time, no coup to take over govt, oppisite, suppose to be govt for the people, not the other way, using 911 and terrorism to take our feedoms, guns, survallince,etc...were you live? your missing this?
@4624tone well, i'll still have the right to carry a gun, i don't know about servailance, I will say that Gov has to much power, but a poice state run by jews???? Really? At least not in the south, i don't think the jews like it down there.
@heafers84 Me too, but one event like hurricane bs, never know...Look up dual citizens, Israel and US, guarentee you know too many these guys in DC makin all the calls, espically war's with muslims, check it.. I know jews, but friends with none either...Im up here in the NE, Philly PA, trust me im 42 and shit has changed, police have all the pull, YOUR never right, they are, they are revenue agents up here, been to ARK. recently, loved it , way different then here.
If a building is "pulled" it means that they actually pull the building down with cables. I didn't see any cables or heavy machinery hooked up to tower 7. Did anyone else?
definitely a controlled demo.... i didnt need anyone to tell me that. its based on evidence provided. intentions considered. PM jus offered an alternate version. ive seen two buildings demo'd in vegas... im no expert but common sense should be prevalent in eliminating bullshit....jus goes to show u... common sense isnt that common
IF these men never existed in the first place then they would not turn up somewhere else. This is one of the best questions have have heard... how did anyone have DNA evidence of unknown persons...Gold
Popular Mechanics, History Channel, and others... When did Popular Mechanics become the holder of all truths? Is Popular Mechanics immune to telling lies? Why do so many Physicist and Engineers disagree with Popular Mechanics? Why does Truth appear to be putting a giant foot in the ass of Popular Mechanics?
I think its obvious that Popular Mechanics was in on the cover up as well. As soon as he was confronted with his lies, he put his tail between his legs and ran away.
You "truthers" (hehehe) never cease to amaze me with the wild yarns you guys weave. Boy, imagine what good you all could do if only you put your creativity to something productive...
I saw somewhere that Benjamin Chertoff was the editor of popular mechanics when the 911 conspiracy debunking issue came out in 2005. Does anyone here know if he is really related to airport X-ray mogul Michael Chertoff?
That's ridiculous. The Al Qaeda deliberately fed innacurate information into the Popular Mechanics rebuttal and are controlling the author with death threats. Proof of just how dangerous global terror really is. The hijackers faked their own deaths by seeding the rubble with their DNA and inserting their DNA files into the FBI files using their mole. Nobody knows because the Al Qaeda have blackmailed every top leader and are succeeding in their plan to simultaneously cause fear and blame others.
Um.. Maybe if you made a phone call to FDNY chief Daniel Nigro you would find out that what Silverstein was referring to was the Chiefs decision to.. PULL HIS MEN OUT OF THE BUILDING!!! So nobody else was killed that day. Which the chief has spoken about and clarified..
You dumbass, Silverstien never made it to work on 9/11, and the Fire Fighters were pulled from the building that morning. Building 7 didn't come down until hours later. ...so get real.
@Born2Flesh You just answered your own question. YES they were pulled from the building and that is what is in reference to the oft quoted line of Silverstein.. "PULL". He is referring to a conversation with FDNY chief Dan Nigro and the decision to vacate all firemen from B7 because they didn't want anymore men killed that day. WTC had just collapsed and they lost 300 guys..
Point being.. B7 was a VERY much a KNOWN entity. The Chief talks all about it in an interview i have.
The Fire Fighters were removed from Building 7 in the MORNING, and that was done before any of the buildings came down. <----Berry J is a eyewitness to that, and that is all on video. ...and none of that can explain why Building 7 came down. Berry was in building 7, not you.
@Born2Flesh Would you like to read the article:? Chief Nigro was standing in front of 7 when it fell and heard.. NOTHING!!! and a team of Controlled Demolition guys were on the pile for days afterward.. Nothing was found. And the metallurgy report showed failure from fire alone. No thermitic or explosive materials involved..
I don't need to read an article; I have a witness named Berry Jennings. Hell, I can write an ariticle and have it printed. You assume I'm suppose to trust "Chief Nigro", and just refuse all other evidence? lol You can believe that shit, but I don't.
@Born2Flesh Trust Chief Nigro?????????!!! Oh.. no!! another Truther who wants to toss the FDNY under the buss. Yeah those FDNY guys you just can't trust em..
Dude.. He was responsible for the building the entire day. Knew about its status explicitly!!
And BTW HE thinks all of you guys are nuts!!! As he has said "I WAS THERE I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED" (I happen to agree with him)
Ray Goldbach -- Fire Captain (F.D.N.Y.), Executive Assistant to the Fire Commissioner
There was a big discussion going on at that point about pulling all of our units out of 7 World Trade Center. Chief Nigro didn't feel it was worth taking the slightest chance of somebody else getting injured. So at that point we made a decision to take all of our units out of 7 World Trade Center because there was a potential for collapse.
...and that is suppose to mean what? I believe Berry Jennings because he was an eyewitness and in Building 7. Maybe these "articles" and statements are good enough for you, but I tend to believe the guy who walked out of Building 7.
@roquefortfiles You must be so proud. I've got 115 quotes from Firemen saying "we were told the building was going to collapse," 4 hours before it is.
From small fires???????? Are you shitting me???????????
I got video of firemen surviving EXPLOSIONS IN THE BASEMENTS OF ALL THREE WTC BUILDINGS.
@LazlosPlane Small fires?? Don't think so!! Go do some research on B7. The fires were extensive and heavily involved.. That comes straight from guys dealing with it. Its not my opinion.
Explosions? Kind of irrelevant when all 3 buildings collapsed from the top. And what have got to say to the Chief of the FDNY who stood in front of 7 when it fell.
Heard NOTHING!! No explosions no detonations.. ZIP!!
@freein2339 Explosions? Bolts popping, steel coming apart, the building coming apart. Absolutely!!
Timed shaped charges going off?? GOOD LUCK!!
Been there and I know what this sounds like close up. Believe me if it had taken place its not something a few people would hear and the rest not. Everyone and every camera shooting this in lower Manhattan would know about it. without question.
Its silly urban myth all of this CD talk. Its nonsense in fact.
@roquefortfiles Witnesses saw and heard the "demolition ring" as the building was falling in a free fall motion...The only answer to the WTC falling is by controlled demolition....No other "theory" makes sense or has not been proven wrong...do some homework....
@freein2339 .The only answer to the WTC falling is by controlled demolition.
Uh.. no it isn't. No even close. The building would behave entirely differently if explosives were involved. Go ask a CD Tech.
Christ the Structural Engineer of the WTC himself has said.. "There is no way one floor is going to hold the weight of 14 or more stories falling on it. Not possible. It would collapse instantly and to the foundation"...
I'd bet he knows a few more things than your... Ahem. "Research".
@roquefortfiles WTC building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door. This intense grid and the jet-plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting."
Frank A. DeMartini – WTC victim. Architect and WTC Construction Manager
@roquefortfiles I've talked to people in the demolition business and to a man they all say that WTC was imploded....Also where is the video of all the so-called hijackers boarding the planes...???...Yes...do some research..
@roquefortfiles "There was just an explosion in the south tower]. It seemed like on television wheh they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions."--Firefighter Richard Banaciski
"I saw a flash flash flash at the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building?"
@freein2339 Dude? Don't fall sucker to all of these wild quotes from people. What are you gonna call a building collapsing on you if you were standing below it? .. Just look at the building!! Its spewing dust out from every corner.... Gee.. what does that resemble? An explosion? For sure!!
I know what shaped charges sound like and look like close up. I shot a 25 story building being imploded. I can tell you for a fact there isn't one charge in any of those buildings.
@roquefortfiles It's not a eild quotes..And whyu did the families of the victims of 911 have to take the city of new York to court in order for 503 firefighters and medical personnel to have their testimony heard...??..The building was imploded ...there is no other answer for the way it fell....Now I notice you didn't answer my other question so I'll assume thast you don't have a good enough lie to post here...
@freein2339 The building was imploded ...there is no other answer for the way it fell.
There sure as hell is. Do you even have an understanding of how they were constructed? I have spoken directly to SE on this simply because I am interested. Nothing more.
What do you think is going to be the result of a floor rated to hold about 1500 tons of weight. And 180,000 tons lands on it in motion?
@roquefortfiles "It would collapse instantly"..." how about the near-freefall speed of the "collapse"? There's no resistance from the undamaged floors below so something else MUST have been used to remove the structure below -explosives. The building would have taken far longer to come-down without some assistance
@HardcoreJungFunk LOL!! No way. All that needs to happen is for the structure to reach failure point. Once it does there is NOTHING going to stop that amount of mass. Go and listen to Les Robertson talk about it with that pin head Steven Jones (and his retarded nonsense stories). That is why NIST never even looked at the "HOW" of the collapse because as Robertson said. "Should the structure REACH failure point there was NO QUESTION it WOULD collapse.
@roquefortfiles Freefall speed would indicate that there was no resistance below.If there was structural failure ALONE the velocity would have reduced as it fell because of the mass below it- it would have taken far longer as it was falling through the path of MOST resistance .What you are proposing is a SIMULTANEOUS collapse of all supports because of an office fire. Sorry, its ludicrous - something else was at play there
@HardcoreJungFunk The top portion of the structure (the 31/32 floors above the plane impacts) is running or MOVING along INSIDE the exterior wall. In fact that exterior wall is peeled off almost entirely intact as one complete side of the building. Like slice of cheese. (Go look at it). That means 31 stories has now transferred its load on to the floors.
There is no floor truss in the world capable of holding a load like this. Forget it. The collapse would be instant.
@roquefortfiles "The collapse would be instant" But there's still RESISTANCE from below, what ever way you look at it this would slow the speed down considerably for a building of that size
@HardcoreJungFunk Says who? YOU? The guy who built this structure, sat at a desk for 3 years, worked out the load distributions said "It would collapse instantly.. and it wouldn't be a slow failure"..
You think Les Robertson is pulling numbers out of thin air when he puts together the load calculations for this structure? Making it up as he goes?
If there is one person in all of this who understands IMPLICITLY what is going to constitute a failure overload.
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If explosions were heard in the basement of WTC 1, why did the building fail at the point of impact?
If the WTC was destroyed in a controlled demolition, how did the nanothermite charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the building?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
@ctcole77 LOL, good luck explaining the collapses of all 3 buildings, a 767 fitting into a 16 foot wide hole in the pentagon, a missing plane in Shanksville, PA, the EPA's lies about the air quality in lower manhattan, the failure of a trillion dollar air and defense system, and how to justify why Dickhead Cheney didn't alert Pentagon employees that a plane was heading in when it was 50 miles away. :)
Don't ask me....Ask Popular Mechanics. Seems Popular Mechanics is the only expert on DNA Matching.....Building Demolitions.....Physics......Evidence Collections.......Autopsies.....and the CIA
Okay. So assuming this squirrely guy misspoke or got his facts wrong. So....Therefore all of the other cockamamie crap you all preach are true? Sorry, logic doesn't work that way. You guys are truly a sick, ghoulish bunch.
@jimistreets Yeah, we know, "It's too emotional a topic" or "I know someone who died that day" or "You're aiding the Terrorists" or, my personal favorite, "You really should trust your government". Going back to your first comment about "Pull", /watch?v=7WYdAJQV100 If, after watching the video, you still truly believe the context of Larry Silverstein's comment meant anything other than "Pull" or detonate the building, then only God can help you. Peace!
@tadpoleposition You put a lot of words in my mouth, taddy. Pretty damned arrogant of you to think you actually know my thoughts and beliefs. Classic. Everyone else is wrong, but you truthers are the Sole Keepers of The Truth. Sorry, the man that gave the "pull it" order was interviewed right before my eyes and explained exactly what he meant: PULL THE RESCUE OPERATION. Just keep moving the goal line. BTW. Have you all bailed Corey Rowe yet? He really could use a fix about now. Dreamers. Haters
I just read the WTC7 report from Popular Mechanics and I was NAUSEATED. I can tell when I'm being lied to and treated like a fuggin moron. I'm not a deaf dumb blind idiot, you government fucks. AND THAT VIDEO AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE! (!!!!!!!) IT LOOKS *NOTHING* LIKE THE WTC7 FALL!!!!!! We're SO being lied to and I just don't know why people would rather live in self-imposed deceit. Thanks, Popular Mechanics. WTF.
This is complete nonsense. "Pull it" is an antiquated term meaning pull it over, NOT EVER when using explosives. It's NOT used at all in modern demolition. When the landlord said "pull it", he was saying to pull the firemen and let it burn so no one else would get hurt.
@clipper0udo2 Really? You do know that they lived here, drove cars here, went to flight school here, brushed their teeth here, combed their hair here, used the bathroom here, right? You should also realize that they were almost all Saudi nationals so Saudi Arabia could have easily provided DNA from their residences and history's there.
@vengencefrom1979 i may have misread your comment, if so, i apologize. that is if you were talking about the people that caused 9/11, not the people trying to disprove what the government says.
@MegaCRuffy The manhattan project involved 100,000 people and yet was kept secret from the american people for years. In fact, Harry Truman who was the vice president at the time didn't learn about it until he became president. Also many people have spoken out, but of course no one who was directly involved in the crime of the century has admitted to their crimes. Would you? Barry Jennings spoke out and ended up dieing in mysterious circumstances, so in a nutshell your argument is without merit
There were no friggin autopsies at the WTC. Thats the most outrageous thing I've ever heard, particularly regarding 911. Hell, there were no bodies recovered at that site for cryin out loud. The NYFD said there wasnt even a piece of a telephone found in the rubble. Popular Mechanics is today the biggest shill for the CIA that exists in monthly print media.
Can you not comprehend how chopped up and edited this audio is? It's as foolish as the so called phone conversations and radio traffic in some of those lame UFO documentaries on The History Channel.
lets make a simple example of something. Say i had a crime committed outside of my business. And lets say that i had 10 security camera's installed and pointing in the general direction of the crime in question. Now lets presume that when the police arrive, they ask for the evidence from the camera's and you tell them "yes it was recording but hey , you can't have it". What would be the thinking of the police ? That you have something to hide maybe ?
The Psychology behind a conspiracy theorist is simple, they have a trait that makes them dislike things they can't understand/comprehend. Believing "bush planned da 9/11 i see it on youtube" is easier than learning the history behind the events leading up to it, and comprehending it. Fema death camps, NWO, Lizard people, you guys have been talking about this shit for years, when is it actually going to happen?
Want a real conspiracy, learn about the CIA and Heroin in "Dark Alliance"
Great question.Where the fuck did they get the foreign hijackers DNA?Did they go to jail?
And if the govt did ID them thru DNA,how come when the news about the hijackers bein alive came out,they said A)they think the hijackers had stolen passports B)Name misspelling may have caused mix ups. WTF?How do you match DNA to a stolen ID?And both to a residence?And to Osama?And all the while you've got the wrong name,but don't figure that out when a suspect answers the door alive?
The Video sets in my Favorites if youtube Nazi's Didn't remove it yet. Of the First Responders of Norad. Flight 93 was Shot Down! This explains everything about the Widespread Debris, and the fact that there wasn't much of it left. The Hole that was left of the Impact let no hole for the engines or backside of the plane. The truth is the Government lies and just commited another Flase Flag Black ops in Pakistan with the Drone Attack. problem is Pakistan responded with assaults on 23 NATO Trucks.
Norad First responders Confession says "Coverup" all in it. they confessed even to recieving Orders of there Commanding Officer suggesting that they shot down the plane headed for the Whitehouse and agreed both of them saying they had over 20 minutes to scramble a fighter jet to intercept. With over 10 minutes in between was Well than enough time to shoot the plane down. when asked did they shoot down the plane both of them took a hard Swallow and lied you could see it in there eyes. the truth.
800 camps in the USA alone with Turnbuckles and Barbwire facing Inward the Camp instead of outward. Each camp containing a Railroad Junction and even Gas Valves. Looks like a Concentration Camp to me so did the bottom of Denver Airport. Very Fishy Indeed.
these are the questions I was thinking to myself that Popular Mechanics failed to conduct. They attack the obvious and lie after lie. Loose Change is one of the Greatest Video Docs/Projects ever done. Glenn Beck did the same Whitewash with Fema Camps let he never mentioned HR Bill 645. Very Fishy to me. This bill is what started the Fema Camp Conspiracy that and Millions and Millions of Plastic Coffins by the Georgia Guidestone State. And a official US Patient for them and the some odd 800 camps
by Near by Businesses by Federal Agents. How can you tell me there is no Conspiracy here. Rumsfield admitted to Shotting down Flight 93 and the firing a Missle? at the Pentagon. Cause there still is no Footage of a Plane hitting the Pentagon yet they will show you pictures of Aluminum from wreckage of a DRONE PLANE! Wake up Sheep!
Correct they can Convert our people to sheep but more will want to join the movement. They can Stomp out the Flames but they can't stop the Fire. Why was no Footage released on HR 645 when Popular mechanics were Debunking 2 Known FEMA Camps that were abandoned Train Stations Not even funded by the Bush Administration. Why Didn't they go inside a Real Fema Camp? Lies! No Footage of Silverstein's "Pull it" Confession and no footage of the Plane still hitting the Pentagon. yet 80 videos were siezed
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since Larry Silverstein said pull it, demolished WTC 7 and collected billions in insurance, why would the insurance company pay the claim if there's evidence of fraud?
If WTC 1 & 2 were destroyed by demolition & not fire, how do you explain video of the exterior columns buckling under heat and stress loads 18 minutes after impact?
How can Marvin Bush be in charge of WTC security when he stopped working for Securecom in June of 2000?
Then you have building 7, Steel & Concrete can't crumble into nothing symmetrically in 6 seconds from fire.. It just doesn't happen. Over 100 first responders reported explosions, the lobby was blown to shit, and people were blown up in the basements. The government blocked an investigation for 411 days for Christ sake. Why do you people defend murder, & promote death wars so billionaires can get richer while our freedoms are stripped away
Don't try to battle these nuts defending the government the truth is obvious those buildings were built to take on planes. The fires weren't hot enuff the fireman said he could put it out with 2 hand lines & there's people waving in the impact zone. But ok lets say they were hot enough the 20 stories shoulda fell over not crush threw 90 stories of unaffected steel.
Robmar proves that when you show a conspiracy theorist that they are wrong they will continue on with their belief system. He was ripped apart in a debate with me on various conspiracy theories. Does he learn from this? Of course not, he moves on to the next thread and loses there as well. He isn't seeking truth, he is seeking someone who has a lower I.Q. than he has.
@Errandboy1212 LMAO I am man enough to stop arguing with a child who has the brain size of a penny and this means you "ripped me apart" in our debates? no, see anyone who actually has a brain would see how stupid and wrong you were in every point you TRIED to make. I find it rather funny that your so sad and pathetic that you had to try and find me cause you got so badly thrashed in every single topic we every touched on, also it proves how much of a life you have TROLLING youtube ahahahaha
@Robmar420 ROFL how is the BANK OF CANADA looking on your birth certificate? That's just for starters... Have you come to understand exponential growth yet? ROFL You aren't a truther, you are a denier of facts. LOL Please feel free to look up the term troll as well. You don't know what that means either.
@Errandboy1212 And yet again, im going to further ignore you because you clearly dont have any logic, common sense, wisdom, truth and its just annoying trying to hold your hand and teach you every single little thing that you cant comprehend so whats the point?yet you on the other hand were so badly burned in all our debates that you made it your life goal to track as many of my posts as you possibly can.Im honestly 100% sure your only some teenage kid who thinks they know it all and has no life
@Robmar420 Good job at ignoring, four posts to my one. ROFL Why do you deny what you have been shown? I really need to know how the brain of a delusional being thinks. When you lose a debate so badly you simply move onto the next thread spewing the same shit you tried on the last one. What makes you tick? ROFL
@Errandboy1212 Oh and please point out where I was wrong you dumb prick? The person who I had talked with agrees the government was in on it, we just had different views on what happend, and I'm perfectly fine with that.everyone should have there own view on such topics and this is how I know your just a brainless morron,you dont have your own view,you take the governments view and make it your own,making you a brainless sheep who doesnt think for themselves, iv known this the entire time BYE!
@wildliferescuer777 You have no experts. CT's or "truthers" have engineers who do not study the topics they discuss. For instance, a software engineer knows nothing about a building, how it is structured and how it can be dismantled. This would be a structural or civil engineer. The ones you refer to are simply fruity people who think the same as you with the same amount of knowledge as you.
You really have never investigated anything outside the official story. The experts from which I have read are civil and structural engineers. It just goes to prove you have no idea what your'e talking about. Just a typical brainwashed fool who believes what ever hype hes fed by MSM without checking out the information available. That may be because you are in fact brain dead so I'll forgive you.
As for imagination the wars exist and are killing people as we speak or don't you watch the news?
@wildliferescuer777 No, I have seen many reports, most from independant sources. I have seen what the ASCE, Popular Mechanics, Purdue University, FEMA, NIST, demolition experts, civil and structural engineers....
Name these structural and civil engineers who you have read state that anything else happened.
The war you spoke of was the war on "humanity" as you put it. Funny you tear up the MSM and then admit to watching them all on the same post. LMAO
Anthony F. Szamboti, Steven E. Jones, Frank M. Legge, James R. Gourley, Kevin R. Ryan and the great Noam Chomsky just to name a few.
Most of the engineers who do support the story have vested interests (mainly not loosing their job).
There are a lot of very educated people questioning the events of 911.
As for the comment about admitting watching MSM I personally watch independent media though one thing even MSM and IM agree on is that there are people dying and that is due to 911.
@wildliferescuer777 Anthony is a mechanical engineer, not a structural or civil engineer, Steven jones is a failed physicist who was debunked by his peers at Brigham Young, Legge is a chemist, Gouley another chemist, Ryan is the nut who didn't know that his company didn't certify steel (ROFL) and Chomsky thinks you're nuts too (LMAO) watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM
Not one of these individuals is an expert in anything to do with 911. There are no intelligent people questioning. cont...
@Errandboy1212 at least one site lists many of the engineers and architects that dispute the official theory. Look up Architects and Engineers for 911 truth. There are loads of them. I could find a lot more though why should I do the research for someone who has already made up their mind? Strange how many people agree that there is a problem with the physics of 911 and have spent so much of their time debunking the official story. What do they gain from this?
@wildliferescuer777 Not one of the is a structural or civil engineer. Are you truoly this insane? Do you honestly believe that one engineer is the same as all of the others? LOL Want to see the leader of this tremendously idiotic group in action? Meet Richard Gage: watch?v=DFVoencqfZw ROFLMAO
I don't need you to do the research. I already have. There are some people, none of them with any expertise, who question the physics of 911. They gain $20 or so from every loon who buys their CD's.
@wildliferescuer777 There is not one structural or civil engineer. I am looking at the correct site. You have given samples of names and not one of them studies in the proper field. Why the lies in order to protect your belief's? I can find nothing on Ronald Brookman to verify he is an engineer nevermind a structural engineer. Anders is a mechanical engineer who studies ships from what I can see. Briscoe, the only place I can find him is on CT sites. cont...
@wildliferescuer777 So, as I stated, you love to question government but you freely believe anything anyone else tells you without verification? ROFLMAO How naive can one be? In your fairy tale world, only the government has an agenda, no need for independant research about anyone else, you'll just take thier word for it. And you have the nerve to call anyone else an "aust Yobo". ROFL
@Errandboy1212 If everyone needs to be questioned then why are you so opposed to an independant inquiry in 9/11. If one was carried out one of us would be proven wrong. I know that in 25 years we may get the straight answers we in the truth movement want. If I am wrong then big deal though if you are wrong we're all fucked.
By the way I am looking at the site right now and you are either blind or stupid.
@wildliferescuer777 Because there have been many independant inqiries into 911. You simply have not researched the topic enough.... or at all. One of us have been proven correct, it isn't you. The old "what if I'm right" is a childish rant as it shows nothing. With so many facts wrong you cannot be right.
I must be stupid when I tell you that I look for verification to which there is none. I can start a site that calls me God, it doesn't make it so. I look for independant resources. LOL
@wildliferescuer777 I have never stated that countries around the world haven't taken advantage of the situation. That does not mean that anyone other than 19 hijackers caused all of the events of 911 to happen.
@Errandboy1212 Have you ever looked up how many of those 19 "terrorists" are still alive. Its amazing how not only paper passports but live terrorists managed to survive a plane crash, fly through an inferno and/or fall over 80 stories and survive untouched. They must be tough people! Really I can see why you are not worth debating.
Did you know that the FBI won't even state Osama had anything to do with s11. Why is that? There is no proof that's why!
@Errandboy1212 The main country to take advantage of 911 is the USA. It has worked to the advantage of oil companies and weapons companies. Basically those who really control the USA.
It occurs to me that maybe you work for one of these companies or the US gov itself. Of course that would be a conspiracy theory as there is no evidence unlike the conspiracy surrounding 911.
@wildliferescuer777 No it isn't, Russia, Chechnya was attacking Russia far more than a couple of buildings being blown up. They now had free reign. There are a list of others countries which also took advantage, most are listed in the video where Chomsky calls you a nut.
I wonder why so many companies get fined and must follow regulations which hinder them if they are running the government? ROFLMAO
Yes, I am a paid shill, they haven't gotten me my pay yet but I am convinced it is coming.
@Errandboy1212 I have been involved with getting big companies fined by my own government for breaches of law. They are a joke. What difference does $1000 or even a $100000 fine make to a company turning over hundreds of thousands every day. It's a smoke screen to make the people believe that the government has control. In my own country our elected prime minister was recently deposed after trying to tax the mining companies. Stop fooling yourself.
@wildliferescuer777 So you're an Aussie. Rudd's popularity collapsed which got hi deposed. The mining issue was the last straw and would have possibly destroyed the mining industry. I don't know about you but I have a feeling that the people in the mining industry like to have jobs. LOL
I do like the way you worded it though. This comes natural to your average conspiracy theorist.
@Errandboy1212 I don't really believe you are a 'paid shill' as you're just not smart enough.
The USA has used sept11 as an excuse to breach international laws such as the Geneva Convention and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to make war on two countries. While the people of the US suffer badly due to the massive debt from war the companies such as Haliburton make a killing.
The funny thing is idiots like yourself defend them.
@wildliferescuer777 ROFLMAO I do love ad hominems and those who think that they are a logical form of debate.
The U.N. backed the war in Afghanistan so your assertion of this war is nonsense. The Iraq war did not follow the U.N. charter but what makes you think that countries should be told they can go to war by a central body? Isn't one of your conspiracies the NWO? ROFLMAO The funny thing is that conspiracy theorists like yourself have been pushing these silly ideas for thousands of years.
@Errandboy1212 It's quite funny that you think I am a Muslim. I'm far from it though all people have the right to their own beliefs. I have not skipped over any of your points though I admit I have spent several hours laughing at some of your comments.
You are great entertainment. It's truly funny how sucked in you are!
Anyway back to the point.
This is a quote by Noam Chomsky on OBL
'He was one of the many religious fundamentalist extremists recruited, armed, and financed by the CIA'
@wildliferescuer777 Oh, I let you know immediately when you say something extraordinarily funny thus the "ROFLMAO" There have been quite a few.
You are great entertainment as it is funny how nutty you are.
Please point me to the quote.... Oh, that's right you don't support your arguments. I have already pointed you to a video of Chomsky calling you a "nut". ROFLMAO I find it hilarious that you would use him for any further quotes.
Thanks for the laughs mate. Put a shrimp on the barbie.
@wildliferescuer777 No, I am not an Aussie but you thinking I am should show you how well I research. Not only this but the ignorant would be in your camp.
Which point have you not supported? Let's see.... pick any post of yours which I have disputed.
sorry but i find popular mechanics, with the actual research they do more believable than Jason & Dylans high school project known as Loose Change, which involves no research at all..
I think I may do a video on the folks at Popular Mechanics as well. I really want to delve into the history and qualifications of Jim Meigs. I like this interview you put up! Great questions!
When a building is "pulled", it isn't controlled demo. It's when they attach cables to a small building (up to a half-dozen stories tall), and literally pull the structure down. No explosives are used. There's no way on earth any controlled demo company would even consider attaching cables to a 47 story building. A little research puts that to rest. Like the lady on the phone said... "It's when they actually pull it down."
@DaveTheTurd The first few words of the phone call that you of course DIDNT MENTION. The man: Is this controlled demolitions? Lady: Yes it is. Now please tell me, Why did he say pull it and the building came down? Please tell me why there wasnt even any mention of it in the 9/11 report. Hmm.. Something smells like shit but to you it smells like apple pie for some reason, the reason being your brain is so clogged with propaganada you cant even tell whats real or not anymore.I await a response
@Robmar420 The only reason to resort to personal attacks and insults is when you don't have confidence in your own position. The conspiracy theory about WTC7 is more delicious to chew on that the truth that the building was severely damaged from the tower collapse, fully involved in fire (all 47 floors), left burning for hours, creaking and leaning so badly that even the fire crews knew it was going to collapse -- so they pulled out and let the thing fall. But that's too boring, eh?
@DaveTheTurd I didnt attack you, by saying your brain is clogged with propaganda I'm only stating the obvious, its nothing to be ashamed of at all.. many people just like you stay "inside the box" and never try to see whats on the outside. For many reasons, maybe you like living a lie, maybe you cant see past the many lies, maybe you like having people do all the thinking for you or maybe you just like being controlled. You didnt answer why there was no mention of WTC7 in the 911 report
@Robmar420 There is plenty about 9-11 that stinks to high heaven to me. WTC7 absolutely is not one of them. You want to talk about flight 77 or the Shanksville crash site or fore-knowledge or any number of other details, I'm with you. WTC7 fell because it was damaged and left to burn for hours uncontrolled. Traditional CD would have been clearly audible (boom boom boom!) while silent, slow burn could not have been timed to trigger simultaneous collapse.
@DaveTheTurd I agree that a "traditional" CD would make loud noises.. and there are many witnesses who say they did hear loud noises comming from the bottom levels.there are VARIOUS claims of researchers and scientists finding traces of nano thermite in the rubble which would explain why there wasnt any noise,and would also explain why the buildings came down in such a demolition fashion. If there was nothing like thermite in the building of WTC7 it couldnt have been hot enough to burn to ashes
@DaveTheTurd The buildings were ment to withstand a standard fire and even temps hotter than an average fire so thats what doesnt make sense about WTC7 to me bro. but if there was nano thermite added into fresh paint in the building, left to dry for a week before 911.. it all makes sense
@DaveTheTurd Also, how does a tower falling near the building set the whole building on fire ESPECIALLY when the buildings were designed to fall without causing damage to nearby buildings, not only that but they were also airplane proof as well.. Which would explain why when the planes hit they didnt fall for a while. Also how do you argue about such things when there is just way too many mishaps in one day to be coinsidence. Look at who profited from it all, and look who didnt..
@Robmar420 Spot fires left unfought spent hours spreading throughout all floors. That's how it ended up "fully involved". And since when are 100 story buildings designed to fall at all, much less designed to fall neatly? And "airplane proof"? Is that a joke? The walls weren't 6 feet of solid concrete...
Good job, now we got these bullshit debunkers on the run. Idiots who can't back up anything that comes out of their Government bought pieholes.
LanesLab 3 months ago
"meh, a seven year old can ask "why?" over and over again?"
YES, but can a 7yr old CALL YOU OUT...when EVER u duck points, dodge-facts, change-subjects, straw-man, ad-hom, quote-mine, employ "AliceInWonderland-Logic", attempt to insight anger with thinly-veiled insults & play EVERY other petty, CHILDISH "debate" tactic of a "dissinformationalist"?
Popular Mechanics -sucking the Man's cock since 2001.
homerbear46 3 months ago
WTF do you expect from a "science magazine" that is aimed squarely at "Tim The Toolman Taylor"?...you can TELL 90% of the "debunkers" on Youtube, that ALWAYS pretend to be "engineers", "pilots" , "military personnel" as they spread their LIES (CTcole, Edgeman,TerryManning ect ect) are really just narcissistic, low-iq, NO life-experience, unsuccessful, suburban loud-mouth, popular-mechanics FAN BOYS , well and truly BUTTHURT at finding their favourite magazine is as full of shit as they are.
homerbear46 3 months ago
911 = MOSSAD JOB
Modern day Lavon Affair
donovan93123 3 months ago 3
Best 911 doc
War by deception
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thins112 4 months ago
The term pull it is used when cables are attached to a building. Please show me a video of the buidling 7 attached and pulled with cables and bulldozers. The terms used in the quote was directed at the fire chief, and it's clear that by pull it, he means the fire operation. Why would Sliverstein or the fire chief know anything about demolition. The DNA from the hijackers was taken from the their cars mainly their steering wheels. All are dead, just ask the families, they've come forward
heafers84 4 months ago
@heafers84 .. why would they?.. because they were part of the setup?. How do you explain all the police and fire men tellign everyone to move back because the building was about to explain - people then moved back and it fell down. How do you explain them reportign live that the building had collapsed before it had happened? why didnt they report on building 3 4 5 6????
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@randomtrader1 "you explain all the police and fire men tellign everyone to move back " Because quotes clearly tell us that the FF that were in the building heard creeking and that the building was swaying heavily. They also didn't have adequate water pressure, so they couldn't fight the fire. So, they "pulled" their operation and told everyone to get back in case it fell. Good thing they told them, b/c it did. Reporting before it fell was just a mistake, buildings 3,4,5,6 were crushed.
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megamogx 4 months ago
If ten yrs later you still dont get why 911 was done, you never will...It is funny to look back and watch that day and all the bullshit propaganda to follow,the wars, police state, patroit act, tsa... thats why we live in Nazi germany now..and zero was ever proven, cause they cant..just belive us, the govt...LMFAO
4624tone 4 months ago
@4624tone How is the US like Nazi Germany? Please enlighten us. We're not rounding up Jews and killing them off. There's not a coup to take over the gov. There's no idea of superior races.
heafers84 4 months ago
@heafers84 SS police style, police state run by jews this time, no coup to take over govt, oppisite, suppose to be govt for the people, not the other way, using 911 and terrorism to take our feedoms, guns, survallince,etc...were you live? your missing this?
4624tone 4 months ago
@4624tone well, i'll still have the right to carry a gun, i don't know about servailance, I will say that Gov has to much power, but a poice state run by jews???? Really? At least not in the south, i don't think the jews like it down there.
heafers84 4 months ago
@heafers84 Me too, but one event like hurricane bs, never know...Look up dual citizens, Israel and US, guarentee you know too many these guys in DC makin all the calls, espically war's with muslims, check it.. I know jews, but friends with none either...Im up here in the NE, Philly PA, trust me im 42 and shit has changed, police have all the pull, YOUR never right, they are, they are revenue agents up here, been to ARK. recently, loved it , way different then here.
4624tone 4 months ago
If a building is "pulled" it means that they actually pull the building down with cables. I didn't see any cables or heavy machinery hooked up to tower 7. Did anyone else?
JMatthewCharles 4 months ago
Pwnd!
Fuliginosus 5 months ago
definitely a controlled demo.... i didnt need anyone to tell me that. its based on evidence provided. intentions considered. PM jus offered an alternate version. ive seen two buildings demo'd in vegas... im no expert but common sense should be prevalent in eliminating bullshit....jus goes to show u... common sense isnt that common
HandzntheCookieJar 5 months ago
Popular mechanics epic failure.
nugster1 6 months ago
popular mechanics debunks all 9-11 conspiracy theories. sorry guys.
judgerofwars 7 months ago
IF these men never existed in the first place then they would not turn up somewhere else. This is one of the best questions have have heard... how did anyone have DNA evidence of unknown persons...Gold
archerace7 8 months ago
yah they found dna but couldnt find 4 big orange titanium boxes with the flight recorders.what a crock of shit
ReallyRealOrWhat 8 months ago 6
@ReallyRealOrWhat They did find the FDRs you idiot
heafers84 4 months ago
Truthers are the best question askers, yet, offer nothing else. You ever notice that? Ooooops there i go...
unclekeg 8 months ago
@unclekeg Can you answer their questions or do you just "go along" with government lies....Oooops...found another idiot...sorry
freein2339 3 months ago
Popular Mechanics, History Channel, and others... When did Popular Mechanics become the holder of all truths? Is Popular Mechanics immune to telling lies? Why do so many Physicist and Engineers disagree with Popular Mechanics? Why does Truth appear to be putting a giant foot in the ass of Popular Mechanics?
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
I think its obvious that Popular Mechanics was in on the cover up as well. As soon as he was confronted with his lies, he put his tail between his legs and ran away.
infoseeker264 9 months ago
You "truthers" (hehehe) never cease to amaze me with the wild yarns you guys weave. Boy, imagine what good you all could do if only you put your creativity to something productive...
jimistreets 9 months ago
Popular Mechanic is finished
spider5604 9 months ago
I saw somewhere that Benjamin Chertoff was the editor of popular mechanics when the 911 conspiracy debunking issue came out in 2005. Does anyone here know if he is really related to airport X-ray mogul Michael Chertoff?
shakyjake777 9 months ago
That's ridiculous. The Al Qaeda deliberately fed innacurate information into the Popular Mechanics rebuttal and are controlling the author with death threats. Proof of just how dangerous global terror really is. The hijackers faked their own deaths by seeding the rubble with their DNA and inserting their DNA files into the FBI files using their mole. Nobody knows because the Al Qaeda have blackmailed every top leader and are succeeding in their plan to simultaneously cause fear and blame others.
shatterknee 9 months ago
Did Al-Qaeda do this after 9/11 or before?
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
Um.. Maybe if you made a phone call to FDNY chief Daniel Nigro you would find out that what Silverstein was referring to was the Chiefs decision to.. PULL HIS MEN OUT OF THE BUILDING!!! So nobody else was killed that day. Which the chief has spoken about and clarified..
You fucking conspiracy ding bat!!!
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
You dumbass, Silverstien never made it to work on 9/11, and the Fire Fighters were pulled from the building that morning. Building 7 didn't come down until hours later. ...so get real.
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh You just answered your own question. YES they were pulled from the building and that is what is in reference to the oft quoted line of Silverstein.. "PULL". He is referring to a conversation with FDNY chief Dan Nigro and the decision to vacate all firemen from B7 because they didn't want anymore men killed that day. WTC had just collapsed and they lost 300 guys..
Point being.. B7 was a VERY much a KNOWN entity. The Chief talks all about it in an interview i have.
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
The Fire Fighters were removed from Building 7 in the MORNING, and that was done before any of the buildings came down. <----Berry J is a eyewitness to that, and that is all on video. ...and none of that can explain why Building 7 came down. Berry was in building 7, not you.
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh Would you like to read the article:? Chief Nigro was standing in front of 7 when it fell and heard.. NOTHING!!! and a team of Controlled Demolition guys were on the pile for days afterward.. Nothing was found. And the metallurgy report showed failure from fire alone. No thermitic or explosive materials involved..
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
I don't need to read an article; I have a witness named Berry Jennings. Hell, I can write an ariticle and have it printed. You assume I'm suppose to trust "Chief Nigro", and just refuse all other evidence? lol You can believe that shit, but I don't.
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh Trust Chief Nigro?????????!!! Oh.. no!! another Truther who wants to toss the FDNY under the buss. Yeah those FDNY guys you just can't trust em..
Dude.. He was responsible for the building the entire day. Knew about its status explicitly!!
And BTW HE thinks all of you guys are nuts!!! As he has said "I WAS THERE I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED" (I happen to agree with him)
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh Quote....!!!!
Ray Goldbach -- Fire Captain (F.D.N.Y.), Executive Assistant to the Fire Commissioner
There was a big discussion going on at that point about pulling all of our units out of 7 World Trade Center. Chief Nigro didn't feel it was worth taking the slightest chance of somebody else getting injured. So at that point we made a decision to take all of our units out of 7 World Trade Center because there was a potential for collapse.
I got 40 quotes just like these!!!
...
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
...and that is suppose to mean what? I believe Berry Jennings because he was an eyewitness and in Building 7. Maybe these "articles" and statements are good enough for you, but I tend to believe the guy who walked out of Building 7.
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@roquefortfiles You must be so proud. I've got 115 quotes from Firemen saying "we were told the building was going to collapse," 4 hours before it is.
From small fires???????? Are you shitting me???????????
I got video of firemen surviving EXPLOSIONS IN THE BASEMENTS OF ALL THREE WTC BUILDINGS.
EXPLOSIONS.
LazlosPlane 6 months ago
@LazlosPlane Small fires?? Don't think so!! Go do some research on B7. The fires were extensive and heavily involved.. That comes straight from guys dealing with it. Its not my opinion.
Explosions? Kind of irrelevant when all 3 buildings collapsed from the top. And what have got to say to the Chief of the FDNY who stood in front of 7 when it fell.
Heard NOTHING!! No explosions no detonations.. ZIP!!
And nothing was found in the pile.
Its nonsense.
roquefortfiles 6 months ago
@roquefortfiles Explosions were heard by dozens of witnesses.....do your homework
freein2339 3 months ago
@freein2339 Explosions? Bolts popping, steel coming apart, the building coming apart. Absolutely!!
Timed shaped charges going off?? GOOD LUCK!!
Been there and I know what this sounds like close up. Believe me if it had taken place its not something a few people would hear and the rest not. Everyone and every camera shooting this in lower Manhattan would know about it. without question.
Its silly urban myth all of this CD talk. Its nonsense in fact.
I speak from experience
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles Witnesses saw and heard the "demolition ring" as the building was falling in a free fall motion...The only answer to the WTC falling is by controlled demolition....No other "theory" makes sense or has not been proven wrong...do some homework....
freein2339 3 months ago
@freein2339 .The only answer to the WTC falling is by controlled demolition.
Uh.. no it isn't. No even close. The building would behave entirely differently if explosives were involved. Go ask a CD Tech.
Christ the Structural Engineer of the WTC himself has said.. "There is no way one floor is going to hold the weight of 14 or more stories falling on it. Not possible. It would collapse instantly and to the foundation"...
I'd bet he knows a few more things than your... Ahem. "Research".
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles WTC building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door. This intense grid and the jet-plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting."
Frank A. DeMartini – WTC victim. Architect and WTC Construction Manager
freein2339 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles I've talked to people in the demolition business and to a man they all say that WTC was imploded....Also where is the video of all the so-called hijackers boarding the planes...???...Yes...do some research..
freein2339 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles "There was just an explosion in the south tower]. It seemed like on television wheh they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions."--Firefighter Richard Banaciski
"I saw a flash flash flash at the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building?"
--Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory
freein2339 3 months ago
@freein2339 Dude? Don't fall sucker to all of these wild quotes from people. What are you gonna call a building collapsing on you if you were standing below it? .. Just look at the building!! Its spewing dust out from every corner.... Gee.. what does that resemble? An explosion? For sure!!
I know what shaped charges sound like and look like close up. I shot a 25 story building being imploded. I can tell you for a fact there isn't one charge in any of those buildings.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles It's not a eild quotes..And whyu did the families of the victims of 911 have to take the city of new York to court in order for 503 firefighters and medical personnel to have their testimony heard...??..The building was imploded ...there is no other answer for the way it fell....Now I notice you didn't answer my other question so I'll assume thast you don't have a good enough lie to post here...
freein2339 3 months ago
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@freein2339 The building was imploded ...there is no other answer for the way it fell.
There sure as hell is. Do you even have an understanding of how they were constructed? I have spoken directly to SE on this simply because I am interested. Nothing more.
What do you think is going to be the result of a floor rated to hold about 1500 tons of weight. And 180,000 tons lands on it in motion?
I'll let you do the math.
roquefortfiles 3 months ago
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@roquefortfiles "It was like a professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear 'Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop'."
--Paramedic Daniel Rivera
freein2339 3 months ago
@roquefortfiles "It would collapse instantly"..." how about the near-freefall speed of the "collapse"? There's no resistance from the undamaged floors below so something else MUST have been used to remove the structure below -explosives. The building would have taken far longer to come-down without some assistance
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk LOL!! No way. All that needs to happen is for the structure to reach failure point. Once it does there is NOTHING going to stop that amount of mass. Go and listen to Les Robertson talk about it with that pin head Steven Jones (and his retarded nonsense stories). That is why NIST never even looked at the "HOW" of the collapse because as Robertson said. "Should the structure REACH failure point there was NO QUESTION it WOULD collapse.
roquefortfiles 2 months ago
@roquefortfiles Freefall speed would indicate that there was no resistance below.If there was structural failure ALONE the velocity would have reduced as it fell because of the mass below it- it would have taken far longer as it was falling through the path of MOST resistance .What you are proposing is a SIMULTANEOUS collapse of all supports because of an office fire. Sorry, its ludicrous - something else was at play there
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk The top portion of the structure (the 31/32 floors above the plane impacts) is running or MOVING along INSIDE the exterior wall. In fact that exterior wall is peeled off almost entirely intact as one complete side of the building. Like slice of cheese. (Go look at it). That means 31 stories has now transferred its load on to the floors.
There is no floor truss in the world capable of holding a load like this. Forget it. The collapse would be instant.
And it is!!
roquefortfiles 2 months ago
@roquefortfiles "The collapse would be instant" But there's still RESISTANCE from below, what ever way you look at it this would slow the speed down considerably for a building of that size
HardcoreJungFunk 2 months ago
@HardcoreJungFunk Says who? YOU? The guy who built this structure, sat at a desk for 3 years, worked out the load distributions said "It would collapse instantly.. and it wouldn't be a slow failure"..
You think Les Robertson is pulling numbers out of thin air when he puts together the load calculations for this structure? Making it up as he goes?
If there is one person in all of this who understands IMPLICITLY what is going to constitute a failure overload.
Robertson is that person
roquefortfiles 2 months ago
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The point you are trying to make is a failure. lol
tyleryesta1 2 months ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
If explosions were heard in the basement of WTC 1, why did the building fail at the point of impact?
If the WTC was destroyed in a controlled demolition, how did the nanothermite charges survive the plane impacts and how did the perpetrators know exactly where the planes would hit the building?
How do you explain Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s confession to planning 911 in an Al Jazeera interview back in 2002?
ctcole77 4 months ago
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@ctcole77 LOL, good luck explaining the collapses of all 3 buildings, a 767 fitting into a 16 foot wide hole in the pentagon, a missing plane in Shanksville, PA, the EPA's lies about the air quality in lower manhattan, the failure of a trillion dollar air and defense system, and how to justify why Dickhead Cheney didn't alert Pentagon employees that a plane was heading in when it was 50 miles away. :)
bongojim420 4 months ago
@Born2Flesh I am just curious. So how much thermite does it take to bust a steel column like the WTC or B7? Tell us all how it works.
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
Don't ask me....Ask Popular Mechanics. Seems Popular Mechanics is the only expert on DNA Matching.....Building Demolitions.....Physics......Evidence Collections.......Autopsies.....and the CIA
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
The only thing exposed here is your own stupidity. You did a good job with that at least.
adrenas 10 months ago
Okay. So assuming this squirrely guy misspoke or got his facts wrong. So....Therefore all of the other cockamamie crap you all preach are true? Sorry, logic doesn't work that way. You guys are truly a sick, ghoulish bunch.
jimistreets 10 months ago
Actually he pulled the DNA evidence straight out of his arse.
Galv140577 10 months ago
"Pull" was an order to the firefighters to pull out of the building!
jimistreets 10 months ago
@jimistreets Do us a favor and "Pull" your head out of your ass.
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition There ya go! Another enlightened comment by a truther! Boy, you all are your own worst enemy! Have a nice day!
jimistreets 10 months ago
@jimistreets Yeah, we know, "It's too emotional a topic" or "I know someone who died that day" or "You're aiding the Terrorists" or, my personal favorite, "You really should trust your government". Going back to your first comment about "Pull", /watch?v=7WYdAJQV100 If, after watching the video, you still truly believe the context of Larry Silverstein's comment meant anything other than "Pull" or detonate the building, then only God can help you. Peace!
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
@tadpoleposition You put a lot of words in my mouth, taddy. Pretty damned arrogant of you to think you actually know my thoughts and beliefs. Classic. Everyone else is wrong, but you truthers are the Sole Keepers of The Truth. Sorry, the man that gave the "pull it" order was interviewed right before my eyes and explained exactly what he meant: PULL THE RESCUE OPERATION. Just keep moving the goal line. BTW. Have you all bailed Corey Rowe yet? He really could use a fix about now. Dreamers. Haters
jimistreets 10 months ago
@jimistreets Godspeed!
tadpoleposition 10 months ago
stfu
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@Born2Flesh Another "truther" genius"! Life is good! Why don't you all just except the obvious and move on to addressing reality for a change...
jimistreets 9 months ago
why don't you kiss my ass.
Born2Flesh 9 months ago
@jimistreets LOL!!!!! I've been telling them that for years!!! Good luck on that!!
As far as I am concerned the "TM" should re brand themselves "TMDL" (The Mental Defective League)
roquefortfiles 9 months ago
I just read the WTC7 report from Popular Mechanics and I was NAUSEATED. I can tell when I'm being lied to and treated like a fuggin moron. I'm not a deaf dumb blind idiot, you government fucks. AND THAT VIDEO AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE! (!!!!!!!) IT LOOKS *NOTHING* LIKE THE WTC7 FALL!!!!!! We're SO being lied to and I just don't know why people would rather live in self-imposed deceit. Thanks, Popular Mechanics. WTF.
fleckx 11 months ago
than you have to seperate the dna from thousands of people
mannymann321 11 months ago
We've been HAD....I smell a RAT hiding behind the BUSHES!
Taharah007 11 months ago
This is complete nonsense. "Pull it" is an antiquated term meaning pull it over, NOT EVER when using explosives. It's NOT used at all in modern demolition. When the landlord said "pull it", he was saying to pull the firemen and let it burn so no one else would get hurt.
BriansVideoHobby 1 year ago
@BriansVideoHobby
And where did they get the REQUIRED DNA to match up?
You can argue about "pull it" all day long but without a GOOD answer to the DNA question the whole lot is definitely very questionable.
The "pull it" thing is not able to be answered effectively, but the other certainly IS.
You see, without the DNA to compare it too, you don't have a test!
In other words, this is total and complete evidence of deliberate lying, regardless, and it's actually impossible!
Answer?
clipper0udo2 11 months ago
@clipper0udo2 Really? You do know that they lived here, drove cars here, went to flight school here, brushed their teeth here, combed their hair here, used the bathroom here, right? You should also realize that they were almost all Saudi nationals so Saudi Arabia could have easily provided DNA from their residences and history's there.
BriansVideoHobby 11 months ago
i hope someone in the fbi is recording all of the ip adresses of all of the debunkers so they can be rounded up and shot for treason.
vengencefrom1979 1 year ago
@vengencefrom1979 if i was you i'd be worried..youre no different than the nazi supporters in the 1930's...youre a disgrace to humanity
masonfreeparty 1 year ago 2
@vengencefrom1979 only a moron would believe 100% of what the government says. also, it's not treason, dumbass so why would they do that...
AtomicBl453 11 months ago
@vengencefrom1979 i may have misread your comment, if so, i apologize. that is if you were talking about the people that caused 9/11, not the people trying to disprove what the government says.
AtomicBl453 11 months ago
So you guys are saying out of the houndreds of people involved with the inside job have not admitted to guilt?? lol get a life kids.
MegaCRuffy 1 year ago
@MegaCRuffy The manhattan project involved 100,000 people and yet was kept secret from the american people for years. In fact, Harry Truman who was the vice president at the time didn't learn about it until he became president. Also many people have spoken out, but of course no one who was directly involved in the crime of the century has admitted to their crimes. Would you? Barry Jennings spoke out and ended up dieing in mysterious circumstances, so in a nutshell your argument is without merit
jackson32 1 year ago
Wow! 100% cover-up! 6 out of 10 911 commisioners said it was a cover-up from start to finish...
85Tourist 1 year ago
There were no friggin autopsies at the WTC. Thats the most outrageous thing I've ever heard, particularly regarding 911. Hell, there were no bodies recovered at that site for cryin out loud. The NYFD said there wasnt even a piece of a telephone found in the rubble. Popular Mechanics is today the biggest shill for the CIA that exists in monthly print media.
Ghenghy 1 year ago
He went straight into damage control he realized his shilling was failing hahaha
IdunCareLesSn00b 1 year ago
Can you not comprehend how chopped up and edited this audio is? It's as foolish as the so called phone conversations and radio traffic in some of those lame UFO documentaries on The History Channel.
hootyhaha 1 year ago
lets make a simple example of something. Say i had a crime committed outside of my business. And lets say that i had 10 security camera's installed and pointing in the general direction of the crime in question. Now lets presume that when the police arrive, they ask for the evidence from the camera's and you tell them "yes it was recording but hey , you can't have it". What would be the thinking of the police ? That you have something to hide maybe ?
Astowhy 1 year ago
The Psychology behind a conspiracy theorist is simple, they have a trait that makes them dislike things they can't understand/comprehend. Believing "bush planned da 9/11 i see it on youtube" is easier than learning the history behind the events leading up to it, and comprehending it. Fema death camps, NWO, Lizard people, you guys have been talking about this shit for years, when is it actually going to happen?
Want a real conspiracy, learn about the CIA and Heroin in "Dark Alliance"
Valuum 1 year ago
@Valuum I agree, it seems like the die-hard "truther" WANTS so much to Believe, that even if you had 110% proof, they still wouldn't believe it...lol
jimmym1a1 1 year ago
Traits of those highly vulnerable to psychological manipulation: (Wikipedia)
Naive-Can't beleive there are bad people in the world,but if there were,they wouldn't be allowed to operate
Too trusting/fair/altruistic/empathetic - Assumes every1 is honest like them.Rarely questions so-called experts
2 impressionable-Overly seduced by charmers.Might vote for phony politician
Greedy-Easily enticed to act immorally
Too Impulsive - makes snap decisions/judgments
youngdrodeau 1 year ago
Great question.Where the fuck did they get the foreign hijackers DNA?Did they go to jail?
And if the govt did ID them thru DNA,how come when the news about the hijackers bein alive came out,they said A)they think the hijackers had stolen passports B)Name misspelling may have caused mix ups. WTF?How do you match DNA to a stolen ID?And both to a residence?And to Osama?And all the while you've got the wrong name,but don't figure that out when a suspect answers the door alive?
I smell bullshit
youngdrodeau 1 year ago
911 = Operation Northwoods 2
PainlessTragedy 1 year ago
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PainlessTragedy 1 year ago
The Video sets in my Favorites if youtube Nazi's Didn't remove it yet. Of the First Responders of Norad. Flight 93 was Shot Down! This explains everything about the Widespread Debris, and the fact that there wasn't much of it left. The Hole that was left of the Impact let no hole for the engines or backside of the plane. The truth is the Government lies and just commited another Flase Flag Black ops in Pakistan with the Drone Attack. problem is Pakistan responded with assaults on 23 NATO Trucks.
PainlessTragedy 1 year ago
Norad First responders Confession says "Coverup" all in it. they confessed even to recieving Orders of there Commanding Officer suggesting that they shot down the plane headed for the Whitehouse and agreed both of them saying they had over 20 minutes to scramble a fighter jet to intercept. With over 10 minutes in between was Well than enough time to shoot the plane down. when asked did they shoot down the plane both of them took a hard Swallow and lied you could see it in there eyes. the truth.
PainlessTragedy 1 year ago
800 camps in the USA alone with Turnbuckles and Barbwire facing Inward the Camp instead of outward. Each camp containing a Railroad Junction and even Gas Valves. Looks like a Concentration Camp to me so did the bottom of Denver Airport. Very Fishy Indeed.
PainlessTragedy 1 year ago
these are the questions I was thinking to myself that Popular Mechanics failed to conduct. They attack the obvious and lie after lie. Loose Change is one of the Greatest Video Docs/Projects ever done. Glenn Beck did the same Whitewash with Fema Camps let he never mentioned HR Bill 645. Very Fishy to me. This bill is what started the Fema Camp Conspiracy that and Millions and Millions of Plastic Coffins by the Georgia Guidestone State. And a official US Patient for them and the some odd 800 camps
PainlessTragedy 1 year ago
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Great job, "Mike in Phoenix"! You showed up that lying sonofabitch Popular Mechanics traitor for just exactly what he is!
jrmn212 1 year ago
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jrmn212 1 year ago
popular mechanics
LIARS...
chena3 1 year ago
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jrmn212 1 year ago
lol at 4:00
jkamwal2 1 year ago
by Near by Businesses by Federal Agents. How can you tell me there is no Conspiracy here. Rumsfield admitted to Shotting down Flight 93 and the firing a Missle? at the Pentagon. Cause there still is no Footage of a Plane hitting the Pentagon yet they will show you pictures of Aluminum from wreckage of a DRONE PLANE! Wake up Sheep!
PainlessTragedy 1 year ago 16
@PainlessTragedy ROFLMAO You're a funny guy. Not smart, but very funny.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since WTC 7 was constructed over a Con Ed station, how did the structural framing compensate for the station and how did that influence the collapse?
How much nanothermite did Niels Harrit estimate was used in the supposed controlled demolition of WTC 1, 2, & 7?
If a postcard could survive the Hindenburg inferno isn't it possible for a passport to survive the WTC collapse?
ctcole77 3 months ago
@ctcole77 Where are the video tapes of the so-called Hijackers boarding the planes....???
How can the best radar system n the world lose flight 77...???
A passport can survive but how can wings melt at the pentagon but not the contents of the building...???
The estimation of thermite is irrelavent..the fact that is evidence of thermite at ground zero is relavent...
Not sure what your qiestionabout Buikding 7 ...but FEMA has yet determine how WTC7 collasped....why is that..?
freein2339 3 months ago
Correct they can Convert our people to sheep but more will want to join the movement. They can Stomp out the Flames but they can't stop the Fire. Why was no Footage released on HR 645 when Popular mechanics were Debunking 2 Known FEMA Camps that were abandoned Train Stations Not even funded by the Bush Administration. Why Didn't they go inside a Real Fema Camp? Lies! No Footage of Silverstein's "Pull it" Confession and no footage of the Plane still hitting the Pentagon. yet 80 videos were siezed
PainlessTragedy 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since Larry Silverstein said pull it, demolished WTC 7 and collected billions in insurance, why would the insurance company pay the claim if there's evidence of fraud?
If WTC 1 & 2 were destroyed by demolition & not fire, how do you explain video of the exterior columns buckling under heat and stress loads 18 minutes after impact?
How can Marvin Bush be in charge of WTC security when he stopped working for Securecom in June of 2000?
ctcole77 1 year ago
Then you have building 7, Steel & Concrete can't crumble into nothing symmetrically in 6 seconds from fire.. It just doesn't happen. Over 100 first responders reported explosions, the lobby was blown to shit, and people were blown up in the basements. The government blocked an investigation for 411 days for Christ sake. Why do you people defend murder, & promote death wars so billionaires can get richer while our freedoms are stripped away
JGH8sDaDebunkerz 1 year ago 13
@JGH8sDaDebunkerz Um...Yeah...It did...Now get a life...
jimistreets 10 months ago
Don't try to battle these nuts defending the government the truth is obvious those buildings were built to take on planes. The fires weren't hot enuff the fireman said he could put it out with 2 hand lines & there's people waving in the impact zone. But ok lets say they were hot enough the 20 stories shoulda fell over not crush threw 90 stories of unaffected steel.
JGH8sDaDebunkerz 1 year ago
Robmar proves that when you show a conspiracy theorist that they are wrong they will continue on with their belief system. He was ripped apart in a debate with me on various conspiracy theories. Does he learn from this? Of course not, he moves on to the next thread and loses there as well. He isn't seeking truth, he is seeking someone who has a lower I.Q. than he has.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 LMAO I am man enough to stop arguing with a child who has the brain size of a penny and this means you "ripped me apart" in our debates? no, see anyone who actually has a brain would see how stupid and wrong you were in every point you TRIED to make. I find it rather funny that your so sad and pathetic that you had to try and find me cause you got so badly thrashed in every single topic we every touched on, also it proves how much of a life you have TROLLING youtube ahahahaha
Robmar420 1 year ago
@Robmar420 ROFL how is the BANK OF CANADA looking on your birth certificate? That's just for starters... Have you come to understand exponential growth yet? ROFL You aren't a truther, you are a denier of facts. LOL Please feel free to look up the term troll as well. You don't know what that means either.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 And yet again, im going to further ignore you because you clearly dont have any logic, common sense, wisdom, truth and its just annoying trying to hold your hand and teach you every single little thing that you cant comprehend so whats the point?yet you on the other hand were so badly burned in all our debates that you made it your life goal to track as many of my posts as you possibly can.Im honestly 100% sure your only some teenage kid who thinks they know it all and has no life
Robmar420 1 year ago
@Robmar420 Good job at ignoring, four posts to my one. ROFL Why do you deny what you have been shown? I really need to know how the brain of a delusional being thinks. When you lose a debate so badly you simply move onto the next thread spewing the same shit you tried on the last one. What makes you tick? ROFL
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 Oh and please point out where I was wrong you dumb prick? The person who I had talked with agrees the government was in on it, we just had different views on what happend, and I'm perfectly fine with that.everyone should have there own view on such topics and this is how I know your just a brainless morron,you dont have your own view,you take the governments view and make it your own,making you a brainless sheep who doesnt think for themselves, iv known this the entire time BYE!
Robmar420 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 and others like him. The fact is that you are arguing with the views of many prominent scientists and engineers.
There is too much real evidence supporting the "conspiracy theorists".
All that support the official story are brainwashed, gullible children who have no real interest in, or are too scared of the truth!
The war on terror is a war on humanity! I personally choose stand on the side of humanity, truth and justice. Where do you stand?
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 You have no experts. CT's or "truthers" have engineers who do not study the topics they discuss. For instance, a software engineer knows nothing about a building, how it is structured and how it can be dismantled. This would be a structural or civil engineer. The ones you refer to are simply fruity people who think the same as you with the same amount of knowledge as you.
We are not brainwashed, you are braindead.
The war only exists in your imagination.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
You really have never investigated anything outside the official story. The experts from which I have read are civil and structural engineers. It just goes to prove you have no idea what your'e talking about. Just a typical brainwashed fool who believes what ever hype hes fed by MSM without checking out the information available. That may be because you are in fact brain dead so I'll forgive you.
As for imagination the wars exist and are killing people as we speak or don't you watch the news?
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 No, I have seen many reports, most from independant sources. I have seen what the ASCE, Popular Mechanics, Purdue University, FEMA, NIST, demolition experts, civil and structural engineers....
Name these structural and civil engineers who you have read state that anything else happened.
The war you spoke of was the war on "humanity" as you put it. Funny you tear up the MSM and then admit to watching them all on the same post. LMAO
Admit yourself to the psych ward.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
Anthony F. Szamboti, Steven E. Jones, Frank M. Legge, James R. Gourley, Kevin R. Ryan and the great Noam Chomsky just to name a few.
Most of the engineers who do support the story have vested interests (mainly not loosing their job).
There are a lot of very educated people questioning the events of 911.
As for the comment about admitting watching MSM I personally watch independent media though one thing even MSM and IM agree on is that there are people dying and that is due to 911.
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 Anthony is a mechanical engineer, not a structural or civil engineer, Steven jones is a failed physicist who was debunked by his peers at Brigham Young, Legge is a chemist, Gouley another chemist, Ryan is the nut who didn't know that his company didn't certify steel (ROFL) and Chomsky thinks you're nuts too (LMAO) watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM
Not one of these individuals is an expert in anything to do with 911. There are no intelligent people questioning. cont...
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 at least one site lists many of the engineers and architects that dispute the official theory. Look up Architects and Engineers for 911 truth. There are loads of them. I could find a lot more though why should I do the research for someone who has already made up their mind? Strange how many people agree that there is a problem with the physics of 911 and have spent so much of their time debunking the official story. What do they gain from this?
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 Not one of the is a structural or civil engineer. Are you truoly this insane? Do you honestly believe that one engineer is the same as all of the others? LOL Want to see the leader of this tremendously idiotic group in action? Meet Richard Gage: watch?v=DFVoencqfZw ROFLMAO
I don't need you to do the research. I already have. There are some people, none of them with any expertise, who question the physics of 911. They gain $20 or so from every loon who buys their CD's.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 You are obviously looking at a different page than I am or are just trying to deceive people into believing there are none..
There are loads of structural and civil engineers who have signed the petition.
Many of them even go into why the idea of collapse caused by fire is not possible. Ronald Brookman, Anders Björkman,Claude Briscoe, Kamal
Obeid just to name a few as there is nowhere near the space here to list them
Get your facts straight.
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 There is not one structural or civil engineer. I am looking at the correct site. You have given samples of names and not one of them studies in the proper field. Why the lies in order to protect your belief's? I can find nothing on Ronald Brookman to verify he is an engineer nevermind a structural engineer. Anders is a mechanical engineer who studies ships from what I can see. Briscoe, the only place I can find him is on CT sites. cont...
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 has stated there are no structural engineers on this page.
www2 . ae911truth . org/signpetition . php
Read for yourself (they are at the bottom of the page under engineers)
I have to go to work now errandboob so we can continue this when I return.
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 So, as I stated, you love to question government but you freely believe anything anyone else tells you without verification? ROFLMAO How naive can one be? In your fairy tale world, only the government has an agenda, no need for independant research about anyone else, you'll just take thier word for it. And you have the nerve to call anyone else an "aust Yobo". ROFL
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 Yay, I found something on linkedin on Kamal Obeid. LOL
Type into google "ASCE 911" and see how many structural and civil engineers the real truth has on thier side. I believe it is 139,000 at last count.
Get your facts straight. From what I can see you only question government. Everyone needs to be questioned.
Learn to research.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 If everyone needs to be questioned then why are you so opposed to an independant inquiry in 9/11. If one was carried out one of us would be proven wrong. I know that in 25 years we may get the straight answers we in the truth movement want. If I am wrong then big deal though if you are wrong we're all fucked.
By the way I am looking at the site right now and you are either blind or stupid.
Look down the bottom of the page!
www2 . ae911truth . org/signpetition . php
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 Because there have been many independant inqiries into 911. You simply have not researched the topic enough.... or at all. One of us have been proven correct, it isn't you. The old "what if I'm right" is a childish rant as it shows nothing. With so many facts wrong you cannot be right.
I must be stupid when I tell you that I look for verification to which there is none. I can start a site that calls me God, it doesn't make it so. I look for independant resources. LOL
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 I have never stated that countries around the world haven't taken advantage of the situation. That does not mean that anyone other than 19 hijackers caused all of the events of 911 to happen.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 Have you ever looked up how many of those 19 "terrorists" are still alive. Its amazing how not only paper passports but live terrorists managed to survive a plane crash, fly through an inferno and/or fall over 80 stories and survive untouched. They must be tough people! Really I can see why you are not worth debating.
Did you know that the FBI won't even state Osama had anything to do with s11. Why is that? There is no proof that's why!
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 The main country to take advantage of 911 is the USA. It has worked to the advantage of oil companies and weapons companies. Basically those who really control the USA.
It occurs to me that maybe you work for one of these companies or the US gov itself. Of course that would be a conspiracy theory as there is no evidence unlike the conspiracy surrounding 911.
The war on terror is a war for G.O.D
Gold from WTC
Oil from Iraq
Drugs from Afghanistan
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 No it isn't, Russia, Chechnya was attacking Russia far more than a couple of buildings being blown up. They now had free reign. There are a list of others countries which also took advantage, most are listed in the video where Chomsky calls you a nut.
I wonder why so many companies get fined and must follow regulations which hinder them if they are running the government? ROFLMAO
Yes, I am a paid shill, they haven't gotten me my pay yet but I am convinced it is coming.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 I have been involved with getting big companies fined by my own government for breaches of law. They are a joke. What difference does $1000 or even a $100000 fine make to a company turning over hundreds of thousands every day. It's a smoke screen to make the people believe that the government has control. In my own country our elected prime minister was recently deposed after trying to tax the mining companies. Stop fooling yourself.
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 So you're an Aussie. Rudd's popularity collapsed which got hi deposed. The mining issue was the last straw and would have possibly destroyed the mining industry. I don't know about you but I have a feeling that the people in the mining industry like to have jobs. LOL
I do like the way you worded it though. This comes natural to your average conspiracy theorist.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 I don't really believe you are a 'paid shill' as you're just not smart enough.
The USA has used sept11 as an excuse to breach international laws such as the Geneva Convention and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to make war on two countries. While the people of the US suffer badly due to the massive debt from war the companies such as Haliburton make a killing.
The funny thing is idiots like yourself defend them.
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 ROFLMAO I do love ad hominems and those who think that they are a logical form of debate.
The U.N. backed the war in Afghanistan so your assertion of this war is nonsense. The Iraq war did not follow the U.N. charter but what makes you think that countries should be told they can go to war by a central body? Isn't one of your conspiracies the NWO? ROFLMAO The funny thing is that conspiracy theorists like yourself have been pushing these silly ideas for thousands of years.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 It's quite funny that you think I am a Muslim. I'm far from it though all people have the right to their own beliefs. I have not skipped over any of your points though I admit I have spent several hours laughing at some of your comments.
You are great entertainment. It's truly funny how sucked in you are!
Anyway back to the point.
This is a quote by Noam Chomsky on OBL
'He was one of the many religious fundamentalist extremists recruited, armed, and financed by the CIA'
Ha Ha Ha
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 Oh, I let you know immediately when you say something extraordinarily funny thus the "ROFLMAO" There have been quite a few.
You are great entertainment as it is funny how nutty you are.
Please point me to the quote.... Oh, that's right you don't support your arguments. I have already pointed you to a video of Chomsky calling you a "nut". ROFLMAO I find it hilarious that you would use him for any further quotes.
Thanks for the laughs mate. Put a shrimp on the barbie.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
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wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@Errandboy1212 Ah so you are an aust Yobo. I thought as much!
As for the statement by Noam counterpunch . org / chomskyintv . html. Now what point did I not support! I will be happy to.
As for the ad hominem I was just having a laugh and I am not debating with you, I am arguing with you.
You don't live on the North Coast of NSW per chance. We could continue this in person if you'd like. Then we could have a real debate!
wildliferescuer777 1 year ago
@wildliferescuer777 No, I am not an Aussie but you thinking I am should show you how well I research. Not only this but the ignorant would be in your camp.
Which point have you not supported? Let's see.... pick any post of yours which I have disputed.
Chomsky is no expert. What do the experts say?
ht tp://ww w.911myths. com/index.p hp/Bush-bin_Laden_family_links
It is common knowledge that Bin Laden was supported by middle eastern donations and the CIA funded the Mujahidin via the ISI.
Errandboy1212 1 year ago
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sorry but i find popular mechanics, with the actual research they do more believable than Jason & Dylans high school project known as Loose Change, which involves no research at all..
jutsin928 1 year ago
DNA DNA DNA DNA DNA DNA DNA DNA DNA DNA AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH FUCKING CRACK HEAD CALLING US CRAZY!
FUCK THAT SHIT YOU FUCK FREEMASONS FUCK THE ILLUMINATI! FUCK THEM THEY ALL BITCH HIDING BEHIND THERE MONEY!
420bmxer 1 year ago
Ron Paul= Failure.. HAHAHAHAHAHA! Suck it!
jujitsuJerk 1 year ago
I think I may do a video on the folks at Popular Mechanics as well. I really want to delve into the history and qualifications of Jim Meigs. I like this interview you put up! Great questions!
tshirtfaction 1 year ago
When a building is "pulled", it isn't controlled demo. It's when they attach cables to a small building (up to a half-dozen stories tall), and literally pull the structure down. No explosives are used. There's no way on earth any controlled demo company would even consider attaching cables to a 47 story building. A little research puts that to rest. Like the lady on the phone said... "It's when they actually pull it down."
DaveTheTurd 1 year ago
@DaveTheTurd The first few words of the phone call that you of course DIDNT MENTION. The man: Is this controlled demolitions? Lady: Yes it is. Now please tell me, Why did he say pull it and the building came down? Please tell me why there wasnt even any mention of it in the 9/11 report. Hmm.. Something smells like shit but to you it smells like apple pie for some reason, the reason being your brain is so clogged with propaganada you cant even tell whats real or not anymore.I await a response
Robmar420 1 year ago
@Robmar420 The only reason to resort to personal attacks and insults is when you don't have confidence in your own position. The conspiracy theory about WTC7 is more delicious to chew on that the truth that the building was severely damaged from the tower collapse, fully involved in fire (all 47 floors), left burning for hours, creaking and leaning so badly that even the fire crews knew it was going to collapse -- so they pulled out and let the thing fall. But that's too boring, eh?
DaveTheTurd 1 year ago
@DaveTheTurd I didnt attack you, by saying your brain is clogged with propaganda I'm only stating the obvious, its nothing to be ashamed of at all.. many people just like you stay "inside the box" and never try to see whats on the outside. For many reasons, maybe you like living a lie, maybe you cant see past the many lies, maybe you like having people do all the thinking for you or maybe you just like being controlled. You didnt answer why there was no mention of WTC7 in the 911 report
Robmar420 1 year ago
@Robmar420 There is plenty about 9-11 that stinks to high heaven to me. WTC7 absolutely is not one of them. You want to talk about flight 77 or the Shanksville crash site or fore-knowledge or any number of other details, I'm with you. WTC7 fell because it was damaged and left to burn for hours uncontrolled. Traditional CD would have been clearly audible (boom boom boom!) while silent, slow burn could not have been timed to trigger simultaneous collapse.
DaveTheTurd 1 year ago
@DaveTheTurd I agree that a "traditional" CD would make loud noises.. and there are many witnesses who say they did hear loud noises comming from the bottom levels.there are VARIOUS claims of researchers and scientists finding traces of nano thermite in the rubble which would explain why there wasnt any noise,and would also explain why the buildings came down in such a demolition fashion. If there was nothing like thermite in the building of WTC7 it couldnt have been hot enough to burn to ashes
Robmar420 1 year ago
@DaveTheTurd The buildings were ment to withstand a standard fire and even temps hotter than an average fire so thats what doesnt make sense about WTC7 to me bro. but if there was nano thermite added into fresh paint in the building, left to dry for a week before 911.. it all makes sense
Robmar420 1 year ago
@DaveTheTurd Also, how does a tower falling near the building set the whole building on fire ESPECIALLY when the buildings were designed to fall without causing damage to nearby buildings, not only that but they were also airplane proof as well.. Which would explain why when the planes hit they didnt fall for a while. Also how do you argue about such things when there is just way too many mishaps in one day to be coinsidence. Look at who profited from it all, and look who didnt..
Robmar420 1 year ago
@Robmar420 Spot fires left unfought spent hours spreading throughout all floors. That's how it ended up "fully involved". And since when are 100 story buildings designed to fall at all, much less designed to fall neatly? And "airplane proof"? Is that a joke? The walls weren't 6 feet of solid concrete...
DaveTheTurd 1 year ago