I appreciate those of you who are concerned that less well informed individuals may have expressed unpopular opinions. Call me what you will, at least your leaving someone else alone. For those who care, there is a misalignment of the video and sound tracks in this clip. It's like watching a movie where the actors lips move and then you hear what is said after they stop talking. I noticed this in 06 when I watched the original long version of the recording. I've told no one before as it's moot.
I appreciate those of you who are concerned that less well informed individuals may have expressed unpopular opinions. Call me what you will, at least your leaving someone else alone. For those who care, there is a misalignment of the video and sound tracks in this clip. It's like watching a movie where the actors lips move and then you hear what is said after they stop talking. I noticed this in 06 when I watched the original long version of the recording. I've told no one before as it's moot.
after reading most of the comments here, I have to say that the class 1 railroad that I work for tells us to never go by the switch targets, sometimes they get messed up. and to look at the switch points. Now when running main line at 50 or 60 mph thats not going to happen. so its up to the other crews working to reline the switches and lock them for the main.
@hph445 Yes. Looking at switch points is part of basic training. This in particular pertains to the individual working the ground.
But from the cab checking switch points is almost impossible unless you are right up on them and stationary. A gap of an inch would be very hard to detect from 100 feet away but it can certainly cause a derailment.
@Boss302fan well hate to tell you but almost ever day I check switch points from the cabs of road engines going in and out of yards. and most but not all gaps tend to be a little more than a inch. now this derailment should have never happened if the crew that was working there before had followed safety and general conduct rule GR-39 let me know if you would like me to type for you to read.
@hph445 all I can say about this video is someone drop the ball. And by the way theres no switch lights in this video most modern railroad don't use switch lights
@hph445 Agree with you on all points. Crew that last made moves at this facility did not follow the rules and did not line the switch back for the main. As a result they put people's lives at stake.
I'm sure you'll agree that when you're running at this speed in territory of this nature you put a lot of faith in the individuals there before you.
@hph445 Yes, I agree. Going in and out of yards as an engineer I will check multiple sources for conditions that tell me it is safe to proceed. Crew on the ground. Signals. Switch banners. And points. My point which I did not state well was that for points that did not close all the way properly, the gap is often very small but can lead to a derailment. Those small gaps are not that easy to see from a moving locomotive. You are 100% correct on who was at fault.
An accident like this makes me scared to make the move to the running trade side of the railway...think I will just stick to MOW. Also funny to see people think they know everything from google ....Wavehopper truly made my day with that little bit of ownage :P
@zj360666 I'm glad that I could make your day! The best of luck in the MOW! You guys are truly the ones who keep the trains running safely. Nothing but the utmost respect for everything that you do and for each one of you! :XD
@wavehopper100 O-M-G I cant believe your arguing about this. This should help--> (ugh... wont let me paste links) Google this: "Reading And Interpreting Railroad Signals" PLUS Multiple coupled cars = train. Good god, I hope Im not talking to an equipment operator.
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WTF! At :03 you can see the switch light but you cant hear the breaks till he is almost ON the damn switch. What a freaking retard! Im not even trained for rail equipment and I know not to do that. sheesh
@MachetePanda There was no "switch light"...roll eyes. I'm not sure how you hit a "break"....roll eyes. Perhaps you should stop calling people names like retard when you post about events or circumstances that you do not understand.
@MachetePanda I can assure you that 'Boss302fan' is neither "retarded" or "blind". But, he is correct! I think an apology might be in order.
P.S In the future, you may want to refrain from calling people names just because they express an opinion which differs from yours. It reflects very badly on you.
@MachetePanda I have read over the information which others gave to you on this site; and it IS correct. You should be thanking them - NOT calling them names.
@MachetePanda This train crew were found to be NOT at fault in this collision. Even if they had placed their 16,000 ton coal train into emergency braking at the road crossing they still would of struck the cars in the siding. That is why the engineer sued & won a $3,000,000 judgment against BNSF. Google: HQ-2006-79, to read the FRA / NTSB Accident Report.
@MachetePanda Go back & read your comment. You called him a "freaking retard".
The BNSF railroad, the FRA & NTSB conducted investigations into this collision & found this train crew to be in total compliance with all rules & regulations regarding the operation of their train. That is why the engineer won his case. He was NOT at fault, nor was he a "freaking retard"!
P.S. I have his 'YouTube' address. I can give it to you & you can tell him that directly & he'll sue you too - for libel.
@LocomotiveEngineer2 oh I did? Well, Good for me! A clear red marker and you don't hear the brake till so late. I stopped following this so I forget whos talking about what. I'm glad I caught that.
@wavehopper100 Glad to see I've taught you the valuable lesson of patents. However I can see you need help with sarcasm(your is horrible). That will be next weeks lesson! (By the way; You're welcome!)
@Imanilove2 The conductor & engineer both saw the cars - not train - on the storage track & placed their train into 'emergency' braking. (The rush of air that you hear @15 sec.) However, until they place steering wheels in the cabs of locomotives, there is little else that can be done.
@Imanilove2 Yes, you should be sorry. You should be sorry for calling this individual a "stupid idiot" when you have absolutely no idea what you are commenting about.
@beztlnrpq993 True. I incorrectly spelled "Moron". My bad. On the other hand, your entire post screams that you have no idea what you are talking about. I'll take an incorrectly spelled word in a rapidly keyed YouTube thread over exposing how stupid I am (which you did) any day.
@swelinus Most mainline freight & passenger locomotives are equipped with cameras for investigation & litigation purposes. (Something to think about before anyone drives around the crossing gates at a level grade crossing.)
the train is going waaaay to fast for the diverging route and probably would have derailed anyway regardless of the other train. stupid. the engineer should have reacted sooner (look the target on the switchstand clearly shows "diverging route" and that's one of those things that you _can_ see far enough ahead to react to)
@Studi037 Oh no. Another railfan chimes in about something he doesn't really understand. Gawd. I hate it when you guys view a video like this and immediately pretend you actually know what you are talking about.
Poor driver/engineer. Unbelievable that so many people on this forum believe that a driver can steer the train! If that had been the case then there would have been far more accidents that there are today.
@ZingsVideos Trains can only go forward and backward, the rail the train rides on guides it. The switch can guide a train from one track on to another.
I work for BNSF and have run through here many times..What happened here was the crew on the LKAN0081 was switching cars in this location prior to this accident. They are supposed to line the switch back for main line movement, and report it to the dispatcher, they reported it lined for main track movement but didnt line it back. The train you are watching this video from is an 18,000+ ton coal train traveling around 45 mph, there wouldnt be any stopping in a short distance
hercules1ton this didnt happen in afganistan this happened in cactus,tx north of amarillo,tx on the BNSF railroad both engineer & conductor survived not sure about the conductor but the engineer sued BNSF & a north Texas jury awarded him nearly $3 million which in my eyes he deserved after the terrible injuries he recieved
@PicturePerfct1 There were 2 crew members in this locomotive cab - a conductor & engineer. They both stayed in the cab & survived the impact. However, the injuries that they sustained - both physical & emotional - have prevented them from returning to work for BNSF. The engineer sued BNSF & received a substantial settlement. He is now a farmer with a "permanent limp" & recently replied to one of my comments on this site. If you 'Google': HQ-2006-79, you can read the FRA / NTSB accident report.
A switchman forgot to switch mainline back and left it open to the siding, ouch that hurt. I've throttle jerked an old EMD F7 on some rough track that bounced the locomotive off the track, but that was in 1955, before the FRA.
I couldn't agree with you more LocomotiveEngineer2!!...Now where is the cab shot showing the Union Pacific conductor who slipped off the cars on a shove movement in the Amarillo,Tx yard falling to his death underneath an old BN Grain hopper that the walkway gave way due to rust?...i bet that lawsuit from the family makes headlines soon & with good cause!
@sombreroman08 Did he sue the union representing the employees charged with inspecting cross-over boards for safety?
Railroads are set up, unfortunately, to handle injury and death via legal action (FELA). An ancient system that needs to be abolished so railroad workers are treated as employees in every other job. Politics will never let that happen however.
So the family of this individual is forced to sue to be compensated. Either way,a tragedy for the employee and family.
@sombreroman08 I recently heard from the engineer who was involved in this collision. He has a permanent limp caused by this incident and the conductor still suffers from his head injury. Neither of them went back to work. So, I'm not surprised that he was awarded $3 million. Must have been an awful experience!
@Gauldino7 Actually 4 employees - conductor, engineer, brakeman and dispatcher - were initially dismissed by BNSF. However, they were all later reinstated.
There is a longer version out there but I can't find it at the moment. It shows the train starting from a stopped position. I don't know where this occurred, but I never saw a single signal in any of the original video I watched. Maybe this was dark territory. If I recall, they were going approx 40 MPH.
@uprrslo If you 'Google' HQ-2006-79 you will be able to access all the correct info on this collision. (This was TWC territory and their speed was 36 mph - 32 mph at point of collision. It's all in the accident report.)
@paullubliner The reasons are many. However, traffic density / economics are usually the main reasons for the lack of CTC / ABS track signals. The Boise Subdivision is a low density secondary mainline or branchline and BNSF has chosen to use TWC rules under which to operate its' train movements.
@paullubliner Unfortunately, the railroads don't always look at it that way! Sort of a cost/benefit analysis. Up until '86 my Division - 425 miles of double track - had only 5 miles of CTC & only a hundred miles or so of ABS. So, I know how it feels to be doing 65 on a freight train & up to 90 on a passenger train, not knowing if the bridge around the next corner is still there or not! Thankfully, it always was!
@LocomotiveEngineer2: My comment is a cost-benefit analysis. The government should pay for signal systems. Along with everything else, so no one has any discretionary income whatsoever.
@paullubliner Signalling systems are incredibly expensive. So if you spread that cost over the hundreds of miles this train operated over, you would have lost the bet as the derailment is actually less expensive. (Measuring in dollars and cents alone and not the human factor).
As with anything else in life there is a cost involved and it is heavily weighed. To signal a line that currently has no systems may result in costs so great you might as well abandon the branch.
@paullubliner Four weeks ago I heard back from the engineer who was involved in this collision. He indicated that the 4 employees found at fault for this collision were initially fired, but they all got reinstated. (Probably with a good share of "Brownies"!)
@LocomotiveEngineer2 That's how the unions work. A slap on the hand and back at work. Unions are bad. Those stupid local engineers should be out of work forever.
@SoCalDualSport Actually, it's more of a case of the companies being VERY reluctant to dismiss employees that they have invested a great deal of time and money in. Employees are reinstated at the discretion of the railroads - NOT the unions. I have seen employees wait 2 years (less a day) - without pay - before being reinstated. Hardly a 'slap on the hand'. Other cases can go to a federal arbitrator, who's decision is final. (No appeal.)
Companies will dismiss your ass at the drop of a hat, the money they think they save from not paying you outweighs the money they paid to train you and payed you to work up until you get fired you as the employee are disposable.
@CSXRockford Perhaps your company will. However, my company will usually reinstate you after a period not exceeding 2 years (without pay) - less a day - and with a hefty amount of 'Brownies' as well. I know this because I am not only an RTE, but I am also a union officer and have dealt with many grievance cases - including dismissal cases. The only sure way at my railroad to absolutely be dismissed is stealing.
They will only reinstate you because the law board tells em to, they don't do it because they want to. but the fact still remains you got fired to begin with.
@CSXRockford The last thing I want to do is to dismiss an employee who is qualified. Railroading isn't easy and if you have a good employee who knows how to handle trains you want to keep that individual. But as with any group of individuals you have your screw-ups. And given what we haul and how we move it, I don't want those individuals around on a job like this. So yes, at some point a certain minority of employees need to move on to something else.
Not saying we don't have screw ups that do need to go, but the fact still remains the railroad will fire you ass in a heartbeat , then you must depend on the law board to rule in your favor on an appeal.
@SoCalDualSport 'Wavehopper100' is correct in his statement; dismissed employees are reinstated at the discretion of the railways/railroads. Besides assisting members through the disciplinary procedure, the unions don't - can't - control when, or even if, the employee will return to work. That is determined by the companies.
By the way, the local train crew consisted of a conductor, engineer & a brakeman. The dispatcher was also found to be at fault.
kevini001, the reason why you saw the red target early is because the video is titled "train crash" so you were anticipating the "crash". In real life there's to many other things going on and other things being discussed inside the cab of that engine to look at every switch target along the way. You have to trust your co-workers to do their job so that you can take care of your responsibilities.
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I appreciate those of you who are concerned that less well informed individuals may have expressed unpopular opinions. Call me what you will, at least your leaving someone else alone. For those who care, there is a misalignment of the video and sound tracks in this clip. It's like watching a movie where the actors lips move and then you hear what is said after they stop talking. I noticed this in 06 when I watched the original long version of the recording. I've told no one before as it's moot.
good2bseen 1 month ago
I appreciate those of you who are concerned that less well informed individuals may have expressed unpopular opinions. Call me what you will, at least your leaving someone else alone. For those who care, there is a misalignment of the video and sound tracks in this clip. It's like watching a movie where the actors lips move and then you hear what is said after they stop talking. I noticed this in 06 when I watched the original long version of the recording. I've told no one before as it's moot.
good2bseen 1 month ago
after reading most of the comments here, I have to say that the class 1 railroad that I work for tells us to never go by the switch targets, sometimes they get messed up. and to look at the switch points. Now when running main line at 50 or 60 mph thats not going to happen. so its up to the other crews working to reline the switches and lock them for the main.
hph445 1 month ago
@hph445 Yes. Looking at switch points is part of basic training. This in particular pertains to the individual working the ground.
But from the cab checking switch points is almost impossible unless you are right up on them and stationary. A gap of an inch would be very hard to detect from 100 feet away but it can certainly cause a derailment.
Boss302fan 4 weeks ago
@Boss302fan well hate to tell you but almost ever day I check switch points from the cabs of road engines going in and out of yards. and most but not all gaps tend to be a little more than a inch. now this derailment should have never happened if the crew that was working there before had followed safety and general conduct rule GR-39 let me know if you would like me to type for you to read.
hph445 4 weeks ago
@hph445 all I can say about this video is someone drop the ball. And by the way theres no switch lights in this video most modern railroad don't use switch lights
hph445 4 weeks ago
@hph445 Agree with you on all points. Crew that last made moves at this facility did not follow the rules and did not line the switch back for the main. As a result they put people's lives at stake.
I'm sure you'll agree that when you're running at this speed in territory of this nature you put a lot of faith in the individuals there before you.
Be safe hph445. Where do you run?
Boss302fan 4 weeks ago
@hph445 Yes, I agree. Going in and out of yards as an engineer I will check multiple sources for conditions that tell me it is safe to proceed. Crew on the ground. Signals. Switch banners. And points. My point which I did not state well was that for points that did not close all the way properly, the gap is often very small but can lead to a derailment. Those small gaps are not that easy to see from a moving locomotive. You are 100% correct on who was at fault.
Boss302fan 4 weeks ago
Painful to watch!
yieldyieldyield 1 month ago
wow, that sucks. I can't imagine what the Engineer thought as the front of his train caught those points and began to turn onto the siding.
enahcs 1 month ago
@enahcs Don't forget about the conductor. There were 2 crew members in the cab of this locomotive.
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago
I was sort of expecting some sort of michael bay explosion...to much Transformers...
5up3r4554551n 1 month ago 3
An accident like this makes me scared to make the move to the running trade side of the railway...think I will just stick to MOW. Also funny to see people think they know everything from google ....Wavehopper truly made my day with that little bit of ownage :P
zj360666 1 month ago
@zj360666 I'm glad that I could make your day! The best of luck in the MOW! You guys are truly the ones who keep the trains running safely. Nothing but the utmost respect for everything that you do and for each one of you! :XD
wavehopper100 1 month ago
@wavehopper100 Well said.
Boss302fan 1 month ago
@wavehopper100 O-M-G I cant believe your arguing about this. This should help--> (ugh... wont let me paste links) Google this: "Reading And Interpreting Railroad Signals" PLUS Multiple coupled cars = train. Good god, I hope Im not talking to an equipment operator.
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wavehopper100 1 month ago
@wavehopper100 Thanks. However, to clarify. Many of the train crews who report to me will tell you that I DO NOT know what I'm talking about. :>
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Wharfratt5 1 month ago
Somebody must have switched the tracks.
mwendia 1 month ago
как всегда: тупые американцы (в данном случае тупой стрелочник)
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WTF! At :03 you can see the switch light but you cant hear the breaks till he is almost ON the damn switch. What a freaking retard! Im not even trained for rail equipment and I know not to do that. sheesh
MachetePanda 1 month ago
@MachetePanda You know not to do....what? Before you call people retards perhaps you should understand what it is you are commenting about.
Boss302fan 1 month ago
@Boss302fan Im talking about hitting the breaks when you see a switch light is set to put you on the same track as a standing train. :rolleyes:
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wavehopper100 1 month ago
@MachetePanda There was no "switch light"...roll eyes. I'm not sure how you hit a "break"....roll eyes. Perhaps you should stop calling people names like retard when you post about events or circumstances that you do not understand.
Boss302fan 1 month ago
@Boss302fan wow... you are retarded. ...and blind.
MachetePanda 1 month ago
@MachetePanda There are no "lights" here. They are reflective banners. Watch it again. Don't believe me....read the accident report.
How old are you...14? 12?
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wavehopper100 1 month ago
@MachetePanda I can assure you that 'Boss302fan' is neither "retarded" or "blind". But, he is correct! I think an apology might be in order.
P.S In the future, you may want to refrain from calling people names just because they express an opinion which differs from yours. It reflects very badly on you.
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2 I dont make it practice to apologizes for the truth, nor do I condone calling misinformation an "opinion".
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wavehopper100 1 month ago
@wavehopper100 que dices
urbejx200 1 month ago
@MachetePanda I have read over the information which others gave to you on this site; and it IS correct. You should be thanking them - NOT calling them names.
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2 What are you talking about? I called no one names! Nor have I been 'given any information'.
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Wharfratt5 1 month ago
@Wharfratt5 Red signal is red signal ...that is all. thank you
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wavehopper100 1 month ago
@MachetePanda This train crew were found to be NOT at fault in this collision. Even if they had placed their 16,000 ton coal train into emergency braking at the road crossing they still would of struck the cars in the siding. That is why the engineer sued & won a $3,000,000 judgment against BNSF. Google: HQ-2006-79, to read the FRA / NTSB Accident Report.
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago 10
@LocomotiveEngineer2 ok... Never said they were 'at fault' just said they were blind.
MachetePanda 1 month ago
@MachetePanda Go back & read your comment. You called him a "freaking retard".
The BNSF railroad, the FRA & NTSB conducted investigations into this collision & found this train crew to be in total compliance with all rules & regulations regarding the operation of their train. That is why the engineer won his case. He was NOT at fault, nor was he a "freaking retard"!
P.S. I have his 'YouTube' address. I can give it to you & you can tell him that directly & he'll sue you too - for libel.
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2 oh I did? Well, Good for me! A clear red marker and you don't hear the brake till so late. I stopped following this so I forget whos talking about what. I'm glad I caught that.
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wavehopper100 1 month ago
@wavehopper100 Glad to see I've taught you the valuable lesson of patents. However I can see you need help with sarcasm(your is horrible). That will be next weeks lesson! (By the way; You're welcome!)
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@wavehopper100 lol... I just pwned you! LMAO
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Wharfratt5 1 month ago
@MachetePanda You should take the time to read the recent comment from 'good2bseen'.
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2 I did... and its irrelevant at this point.
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Wharfratt5 1 month ago
"I'm dead I'm dead I'm dead I died I'm dead."
GeneralCane 1 month ago
I'm sorry but, WHAT A STUPID IDIOT! didn't he even see that train on the tracks?!?!?!
Imanilove2 1 month ago
@Imanilove2 The conductor & engineer both saw the cars - not train - on the storage track & placed their train into 'emergency' braking. (The rush of air that you hear @15 sec.) However, until they place steering wheels in the cabs of locomotives, there is little else that can be done.
wavehopper100 1 month ago
@Imanilove2 Your the STUPID IDIOT. Read wavehopper100 comment
fatcat1285 1 month ago
@Imanilove2 Yes, you should be sorry. You should be sorry for calling this individual a "stupid idiot" when you have absolutely no idea what you are commenting about.
Boss302fan 1 month ago
Who was driving that train, Mr. Magoo???!!!
beztlnrpq993 1 month ago
@beztlnrpq993 Awesome comment. LOL, Mr. Magoo
THEATREofPAIN270 1 month ago
@beztlnrpq993 What Moran sat at the computer under the name beztin and made such an ignorant comment that other people would read and laugh at?
Boss302fan 1 month ago
@Boss302fan
learn to spell MORON!!
beztlnrpq993 1 month ago
@beztlnrpq993 True. I incorrectly spelled "Moron". My bad. On the other hand, your entire post screams that you have no idea what you are talking about. I'll take an incorrectly spelled word in a rapidly keyed YouTube thread over exposing how stupid I am (which you did) any day.
Boss302fan 1 month ago
@Boss302fan
are you on crack??
beztlnrpq993 1 month ago
Do all trains have cameras in the front?
swelinus 1 month ago
@swelinus Most mainline freight & passenger locomotives are equipped with cameras for investigation & litigation purposes. (Something to think about before anyone drives around the crossing gates at a level grade crossing.)
LocomotiveEngineer2 1 month ago 18
Smack dat all on the floor smack dat all on the floor
mikenike127 1 month ago
Milk!
StruttinDatAss 2 months ago
the train is going waaaay to fast for the diverging route and probably would have derailed anyway regardless of the other train. stupid. the engineer should have reacted sooner (look the target on the switchstand clearly shows "diverging route" and that's one of those things that you _can_ see far enough ahead to react to)
Studi037 2 months ago
@Studi037 Oh no. Another railfan chimes in about something he doesn't really understand. Gawd. I hate it when you guys view a video like this and immediately pretend you actually know what you are talking about.
Boss302fan 1 month ago
Woa, that sucks!!
1979cl1 2 months ago
ALE URWAŁ 0.23- KTO Z POLSKI RĘCE DO GÓRY !!! : p
culeangelo 2 months ago
Not paying attention. You can hear the Engineer bighole the train(put it in Emergency) but it is too little too late.
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JamieLianabf131 2 months ago
AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME! DID SOMONE DIED:D?
Thewiebbe 2 months ago
@Thewiebbe true! i like watching ppl die too - cause i know it jesus hand that is at work :)
Jesus bless
carefreeforever 2 months ago
@carefreeforever No one died in this collision - both crew members survived.
LocomotiveEngineer2 2 months ago
@Thewiebbe Both of the train crew members - conductor & engineer - survived this collision.
LocomotiveEngineer2 2 months ago
Sorry, different languages, different meanings :/
danieladamko 2 months ago
released emergency brake @0:16
danieladamko 2 months ago
@danieladamko Actually, they 'applied' the emergency brake @0:16.:D
LocomotiveEngineer2 2 months ago
Poor driver/engineer. Unbelievable that so many people on this forum believe that a driver can steer the train! If that had been the case then there would have been far more accidents that there are today.
praveengupta 2 months ago
how do u fuck that up?
MudJugger298 2 months ago
drunk driver cant even steer forward
Railman122 2 months ago
@Railman122 gosh you're a moron, should get your facts right before you comment. you can't steer a train.
pleasecallmedoctor 2 months ago
@ZingsVideos Trains can only go forward and backward, the rail the train rides on guides it. The switch can guide a train from one track on to another.
geeps08 2 months ago
I feel bad for the people who live in the houses right by there who were taking a nap on that relaxing rainy day.
Landaux 2 months ago
Dam must have bin a good camera good picture all the way
mrraiven1 2 months ago
Looks like someone forgot to line back for main line movement. That sucks.
UberFAKnNooB 2 months ago
lol got some milk on his train
Goidma 2 months ago
That was insane
DMC12man 2 months ago
`hahaha noob train driver
oorlogfish123 2 months ago
@oorlogfish123 not the drivers fault, the points were ending him straight to hell.
1madaboutguitar 2 months ago
66 people had damaged cargo
travisihs08 2 months ago
I work for BNSF and have run through here many times..What happened here was the crew on the LKAN0081 was switching cars in this location prior to this accident. They are supposed to line the switch back for main line movement, and report it to the dispatcher, they reported it lined for main track movement but didnt line it back. The train you are watching this video from is an 18,000+ ton coal train traveling around 45 mph, there wouldnt be any stopping in a short distance
PCREVIEWHQ 2 months ago
S kann einem aber auch den ganzen Tag versauen.
MrMoparchris 2 months ago
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tigerslim760 2 months ago
Sombody forgot to throw the switch back to main.
toytrain2004 2 months ago
@toytrain2004 Or did it for purpose.
princessfbi 2 months ago
@princessfbi It was a case of human error / rule(s) violation by 4 BNSF Railroad employees. 'Google': HQ-2006-79 to read the FRA accident report.
wavehopper100 2 months ago
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hm i am very talented and open
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hercules1ton this didnt happen in afganistan this happened in cactus,tx north of amarillo,tx on the BNSF railroad both engineer & conductor survived not sure about the conductor but the engineer sued BNSF & a north Texas jury awarded him nearly $3 million which in my eyes he deserved after the terrible injuries he recieved
sombreroman08 2 months ago
made in USA...not yet prepared to see a TGV on our country !!!
rempageable 2 months ago
Save the furiture !
einsteindrieu 3 months ago
i can't imagine the engineer lived unless he jumped out..? anyone know?
PicturePerfct1 3 months ago
@PicturePerfct1 There were 2 crew members in this locomotive cab - a conductor & engineer. They both stayed in the cab & survived the impact. However, the injuries that they sustained - both physical & emotional - have prevented them from returning to work for BNSF. The engineer sued BNSF & received a substantial settlement. He is now a farmer with a "permanent limp" & recently replied to one of my comments on this site. If you 'Google': HQ-2006-79, you can read the FRA / NTSB accident report.
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago 22
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hihi tell me your fantasies, spare no details and let's have a good time
KaceyDelenaob622 3 months ago
first afghanistan had suicide bombers now they have suicide trains
hercules1ton 3 months ago
MLLX: Basell USA Inc. Probably full of plastic pellets.
Victimof67 3 months ago
wakey wakey, its time for egg and bacey!
volkscom 3 months ago
was the milk okay?
KjandRhi 3 months ago
@KjandRhi Milx is what it says lol and no, the milx did not survive haha
SitBackAndChillAx 3 months ago
A switchman forgot to switch mainline back and left it open to the siding, ouch that hurt. I've throttle jerked an old EMD F7 on some rough track that bounced the locomotive off the track, but that was in 1955, before the FRA.
ATSF1927 3 months ago
"How was your day honey"?
shardnard72 3 months ago
press 6
martinrodrix 3 months ago
damn this must have sucked for the train crew
Reack94 3 months ago
Sucks who evers at the crossing at 0:00-0:03
BTCRAIL101FILMS 3 months ago
random comment on a random video.now that's a head on collision.
4sstrollogy 3 months ago
damn
wackymac28 3 months ago
What in the fuck ? The driver has a lot of time to react and could have easily swerved if he was paying attention. Looks like his fault to me.
JesusWasAnAsshole 3 months ago
@JesusWasAnAsshole It is a train, not a car. I don't think swerving was an option
byronjames123 3 months ago
@JesusWasAnAsshole "Swerving" definitely wasn't an option. (Neither was stopping!)
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
@JesusWasAnAsshole How should he swerve? He startet breaking immediately as he saw the rail switch being set wrong
FelkCraft 3 months ago
@JesusWasAnAsshole
hahaha, it's a fucking train :D
bobby6129 3 months ago
@JesusWasAnAsshole he is on a rail track not a road
busguy100 2 months ago
@JesusWasAnAsshole ITS A TRAIN!!! You cant swerve a train......are you slightly dumb??
tigerslim760 2 months ago
It would be a horrible injustice for anyone to have to go back to work after something like this. The psychological trauma must be horrible.
Thanks for posting this video.
rixoff 3 months ago
I couldn't agree with you more LocomotiveEngineer2!!...Now where is the cab shot showing the Union Pacific conductor who slipped off the cars on a shove movement in the Amarillo,Tx yard falling to his death underneath an old BN Grain hopper that the walkway gave way due to rust?...i bet that lawsuit from the family makes headlines soon & with good cause!
sombreroman08 3 months ago
@sombreroman08 Did he sue the union representing the employees charged with inspecting cross-over boards for safety?
Railroads are set up, unfortunately, to handle injury and death via legal action (FELA). An ancient system that needs to be abolished so railroad workers are treated as employees in every other job. Politics will never let that happen however.
So the family of this individual is forced to sue to be compensated. Either way,a tragedy for the employee and family.
Boss302fan 3 months ago
Not sure about the conductor but read in the Amarillo Tx news the Engineer sued Bnsf & was awarded $3 million by a jury.....cant say i blame him
sombreroman08 3 months ago
@sombreroman08 I recently heard from the engineer who was involved in this collision. He has a permanent limp caused by this incident and the conductor still suffers from his head injury. Neither of them went back to work. So, I'm not surprised that he was awarded $3 million. Must have been an awful experience!
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
Someone got fired later that day...
Gauldino7 3 months ago
@Gauldino7 Actually 4 employees - conductor, engineer, brakeman and dispatcher - were initially dismissed by BNSF. However, they were all later reinstated.
wavehopper100 3 months ago 11
don't worry we can BUFF out those scratches
buddyisreal23 3 months ago
Was the driver a woman?
Kauwhaka 3 months ago
@Kauwhaka Sexist Fuck.
ForeverLita 3 months ago
Asleep at the switching station...
Easily killed at that speed. Lucky.
strangeandstranger1 3 months ago
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LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
According to username LocomotiveEngineer2 documentary, this occured exactly 5 years ago this month.
happytappyslappy 3 months ago
Mondays...
sicilian12345 3 months ago
thats not gone well
jazzy4me4eva 3 months ago
There is a longer version out there but I can't find it at the moment. It shows the train starting from a stopped position. I don't know where this occurred, but I never saw a single signal in any of the original video I watched. Maybe this was dark territory. If I recall, they were going approx 40 MPH.
uprrslo 3 months ago
@uprrslo If you 'Google' HQ-2006-79 you will be able to access all the correct info on this collision. (This was TWC territory and their speed was 36 mph - 32 mph at point of collision. It's all in the accident report.)
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago 12
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Wharfratt5 3 months ago
oopsie! someone left the switch in the wrong position?
graverobber35 3 months ago
I agree with the stupid in the title. Switches on the main go back to the origanal position. Someone in trouble...
bnsf5624illinois 3 months ago
HOLY SHIT!!!! O_O
creap32 3 months ago
This train ride beats any other cure for constipation I know :D
1madaboutguitar 3 months ago
0:18 - The source of the poo stains on trousers is revealed.
ThePurestSkyll 3 months ago
should've gone to specsavers.
Pendolino1711 3 months ago
Why aren't there any way side signals on this line?
paullubliner 3 months ago
@paullubliner The reasons are many. However, traffic density / economics are usually the main reasons for the lack of CTC / ABS track signals. The Boise Subdivision is a low density secondary mainline or branchline and BNSF has chosen to use TWC rules under which to operate its' train movements.
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2: I'll bet the signals would have been cheaper than the cost of the wreck.
paullubliner 3 months ago
@paullubliner Unfortunately, the railroads don't always look at it that way! Sort of a cost/benefit analysis. Up until '86 my Division - 425 miles of double track - had only 5 miles of CTC & only a hundred miles or so of ABS. So, I know how it feels to be doing 65 on a freight train & up to 90 on a passenger train, not knowing if the bridge around the next corner is still there or not! Thankfully, it always was!
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2: My comment is a cost-benefit analysis. The government should pay for signal systems. Along with everything else, so no one has any discretionary income whatsoever.
paullubliner 3 months ago
@paullubliner Well, run that by the Obama Administration/Democrats/Republicans/FRA and the Department of Transportation! Maybe they'll go for it!
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
@paullubliner Signalling systems are incredibly expensive. So if you spread that cost over the hundreds of miles this train operated over, you would have lost the bet as the derailment is actually less expensive. (Measuring in dollars and cents alone and not the human factor).
As with anything else in life there is a cost involved and it is heavily weighed. To signal a line that currently has no systems may result in costs so great you might as well abandon the branch.
Boss302fan 3 months ago 2
Brownies anyone?
paullubliner 3 months ago
@paullubliner Four weeks ago I heard back from the engineer who was involved in this collision. He indicated that the 4 employees found at fault for this collision were initially fired, but they all got reinstated. (Probably with a good share of "Brownies"!)
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
@LocomotiveEngineer2 That's how the unions work. A slap on the hand and back at work. Unions are bad. Those stupid local engineers should be out of work forever.
SoCalDualSport 3 months ago
@SoCalDualSport Actually, it's more of a case of the companies being VERY reluctant to dismiss employees that they have invested a great deal of time and money in. Employees are reinstated at the discretion of the railroads - NOT the unions. I have seen employees wait 2 years (less a day) - without pay - before being reinstated. Hardly a 'slap on the hand'. Other cases can go to a federal arbitrator, who's decision is final. (No appeal.)
wavehopper100 3 months ago
@wavehopper100
Companies will dismiss your ass at the drop of a hat, the money they think they save from not paying you outweighs the money they paid to train you and payed you to work up until you get fired you as the employee are disposable.
CSXRockford 3 months ago
@CSXRockford Perhaps your company will. However, my company will usually reinstate you after a period not exceeding 2 years (without pay) - less a day - and with a hefty amount of 'Brownies' as well. I know this because I am not only an RTE, but I am also a union officer and have dealt with many grievance cases - including dismissal cases. The only sure way at my railroad to absolutely be dismissed is stealing.
wavehopper100 3 months ago
@wavehopper100
They will only reinstate you because the law board tells em to, they don't do it because they want to. but the fact still remains you got fired to begin with.
CSXRockford 3 months ago
@CSXRockford The last thing I want to do is to dismiss an employee who is qualified. Railroading isn't easy and if you have a good employee who knows how to handle trains you want to keep that individual. But as with any group of individuals you have your screw-ups. And given what we haul and how we move it, I don't want those individuals around on a job like this. So yes, at some point a certain minority of employees need to move on to something else.
Boss302fan 3 months ago
@Boss302fan
Not saying we don't have screw ups that do need to go, but the fact still remains the railroad will fire you ass in a heartbeat , then you must depend on the law board to rule in your favor on an appeal.
CSXRockford 3 months ago
@SoCalDualSport 'Wavehopper100' is correct in his statement; dismissed employees are reinstated at the discretion of the railways/railroads. Besides assisting members through the disciplinary procedure, the unions don't - can't - control when, or even if, the employee will return to work. That is determined by the companies.
By the way, the local train crew consisted of a conductor, engineer & a brakeman. The dispatcher was also found to be at fault.
LocomotiveEngineer2 3 months ago
kevini001, the reason why you saw the red target early is because the video is titled "train crash" so you were anticipating the "crash". In real life there's to many other things going on and other things being discussed inside the cab of that engine to look at every switch target along the way. You have to trust your co-workers to do their job so that you can take care of your responsibilities.
dskaggs1000 4 months ago
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suzannenoble 4 months ago
Reminds me of old Jerry Lewis movies......
BlackDynamiteNYC 4 months ago
hahaah LOL
TheIRONMANPRO 4 months ago