Funny Judy uses Dickens as an example. Currently 1/2 the US households pay NO federal income tax. Business, & the so called "Wealthy" pick up the bill. Of those "Wealthy" it is only the, earners, pay the tax. "Old Money" like the Kennedys, John Kerry & Wife, Rockefeller, etc pay very little tax.
Of course you can just "FORGET" to pay taxes as did many of Obama Czar. Funny how they are all Democrats, the ones accusing others of being Tax Cheats.
@Texmurphy51 It is all she is left with.....Ha! You can track her comments by simply looking at what people like Ed Schultz, Nancy Pelosi, and the Tides Foundation want her to believe. Useful Idiot.
@1NationConservative2 Speaking of Peloci, she is a key speaker at the upcoming Soros Event to change the world economy. I wonder if Judy knows who Soros is or his connection to the Dems?
Maybe she is on his payroll as well, Ha Ha.
Dispite Judys wishful thinking, the Tea Party is growing & here to stay.
@Texmurphy51 You Know Something Tex.....I bet she does know who George Soros is but because she is a blind lemming and dumber than a bag of hammers she most likely thinks he is good for America. George Soros is a Economic World Terrorist. I truly believe Judy wants to see the USA go bankrupt because she hates everything it stands for-Freedom. She wants to be ruled because she is to weak to function in this world on her own. If Soros gets his way she will complain the bread lines are to long!
@1NationConservative2 Funny thing is that Soros made his Billions by breaking the backs of the Economic systems of countries, sending their people debt & poverty. The Left however sees him as a savior & gladly accepts money from him to run their party & propaganda machines.
Soros is current making BILLIONS as the US dollar drops in value, which is why he is funding Obama.
Soros has stated he wants to take down the USA so why do major Dems rub elbows with him??
@Texmurphy51 That is exactly right! Spooky Dude is the backbone of Liberals. Judy makes me want to bang my head against the wall because you have to really try to be as politically and economically stupid as she is. I would submit that she is emotionally unstable and just looking to blame someone for her lot in life. I'm just saying...........
@1NationConservative2 Your never going to get Judy to look at the facts. I see no matter what you show her, she completely ignores it.
She actuallly wants the Government to tell her what to do, how & where to live,work,eat, think, instead of being free to make her own choice. I guess its a sense of security when that happens. I have relatives on welfare & they love it. Have a newer car then me, cable, cellphone, HD tv,& drink all day.
@Texmurphy51 You make a very good point. When you do not believe in your own abilities it is much easier to take from others. I nderstand there are those that need help due to a disability or they are out of work no fault of their own. Judy sees the Government as a way of life and she does not care who has to pay for it. That type of person I have no respect for especially when I work so hard for what I have earned. Things are changing as repubs are being voted out and Conservatives are voted in
@1NationConservative2 In the 60s I grew up in a small Pa town. There was only 1 family on welfare & they got enough food & cloths for the kids to live, no extravigant. The kids worked to get xtra stuff. Pressure was for them to get OFF welfare. We are now in debt because the Gov assistance has grown exponentially. Now a teenage girl gets preg & can live a sweet life. Why would u take a job & get less than on assistance? These are all good democrat voters of course.
@Texmurphy51 I agree....The Democrats of today would be considered Communists in the 60's. It is amazing how they have created an underclass of people by telling them they can not succeed without the Government. Twenty years ago my Dad told me-Son, at the rate you are going get use to me being poor. I was 22 at the time. That scared the crap out of me and I got going and made something of myself. Today-Democrats have created an enviroment where that is OK and it is the wealthy to blame. Amazing!
HEY PELOSI, YOU LOST YOUR JOB THANKS TO THE"'POOR ECONOMIC POLICIES" OF THE OBAMA/PELOSI/REED ADMINISTRATION YOU STUPID CUNT!! HA HA HA,!!! NOW TELL US AGAIN HOW 500 MILLION AMERICANS ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR JOBS WHEN THERE ARE ONLY 315 MILLION AMERICANS (INCLUDING KIDS AND RETIRED PEOPLE) IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY!!! PELOSI IS SO FUCKING STUPID SHE MUST WIN AWARDS FOR IT!!!!
@timytim4prez Wecome to the site where the dumbest liberal in American posts. Allow me to introduce you to Judyleasugar97. Take the time to read some of her posts but make sure you put a helmet on because you will BANG YOUR HEAD against the wall! Enjoy!
@1NationConservative2 thanks, but if you want to see the dumbest liberal post thread, go to the "matt damon rips sara pain" video. look for posts from "youzentube" and "zeemba123." take care
@1NationConservative2 I guess. I think though if she buys a Chevy Volt that will change her mind on electric cars. If you consider it has a 370lb battery that equals about 1gal of gas, & 9.6 gal tank which propells it 350miles. That comes to 36MPG if you get free electricity. My Honda 4 door Civic gets 45mpg on a trip with luggage in it. Why would you buy an electric car that uses more fuel?????
@Texmurphy51 Great point. What is interesting is you did not need someone like Judy or the Government to force you to purchase your Civic. What Judy will never understand is you weighed the pros and cons of a number of different cars, decided what was best for you, made a decision on what was the best value and made a decision in the free market. You didn't need cash for clunkers, tax incentives, or a pat on the back by Obama to make a decision.
@Texmurphy51 What's interesting about Judy also is the fact that she hates big business like "Oil Companies" but she does not realize the Enviromental Movement is just another Big Business. This business is created in the form of scare tactics and people Al Gore have become very wealthy playing off the fears of people like Judy. She is convinced that we can just shut off the oil because she is such a small thinker and ruled by emotion.
@1NationConservative2 Al Gore is set to become the first Carbon Credit Billionare. He along with others like Obama & Michael Moore say Capitalism is the problem, yet they have pockets stuffed with money. Its easy to tell others working hard that They should not amass wealth when your already rich yourself.
The very rich like John & Teresa Kerry pay only 14.76 % on the $5.1 Mill they earned in 2004 while John said its our duty to pay taxes. Most Rich Dems do the same.
@Texmurphy51 ........not to mention the fact that it is a 120 billion dollar a year business. Last week these fine folks suffered the theft of 20 million in carbon credits. So the do-gooders even have theft and coruption in their new business.
John "Why the Long Face" Kerry is preaches a great game but as you have already heard he parked his yacht in a state that did not have as high of taxes but when exposed paid them. Don't forget the little Elf Timothy that blamed his crime on Turbo Tax!
@1NationConservative2 We only need count the number of Tax Cheats in the Obama Team to see the hypocrisy. I think Judy has had enough. I just hope she does a search for the true facts instead of listening to Olberman or Thom Hartmann for all of her information.
I still want to know if she owns an electric car since she thinks it is the right direction to go.
@Texmurphy51 In her mind she does not need to own an electric car to be right. If liberals just think the right thing that is good enough for them. Tex-I rent an electric car every weekend-its called a golf cart.
@1NationConservative2 Yes the golf cart or they can just buy Carbon Credits & drive an SUV. I liked how when Obama did his world tour he spared no Fuel, flying his Posse in many jets. He wants me to turn down my heat/ac & ride a bicycle to work while he is burning more fuel flying his dog in a seperate jet than I will use in a lifetime.
@1NationConservative2 Liberals are on suicide watch today. There favorite America hating spokesman is Gone! Keith Olbermann the hero of people like Judy and the the wetboy of Obama is out at MSNBC. What will the America Hating Left do now? I guess they still have Lesbo Racheal Madcow to listen to! Rush, Glenn and Sean must be laughing their heads off. It just goes to show again why Liberal talk radio or Liberal T/V never lasts. People want to hear the truth and lies get old!
Your mean Tom Hartmann? I have listened to him. He is very very good at the tactic of distraction when on a topic. His good memory allows him to jump subjects & ben facts, when the heats on. Write down what he says & check the FACTS. Dont take it as truth because you like it. Your comparing 2 progressive talk shows with Fox. Have you ever listened to Limbaugh or others? Are you in College?
@judyleasugar97 You could not have checked Hartmanns Facts because he does not use Facts when he argues. He uses circular logic, deception & misdirection. Have you ever listened to Limbaugh or Beck?
wonder if this same itch has ever mentioned that gas prices have spiked under the muslims white house? oh and unemployment is still nearly 10% which is why american's took your power away since you dont care about people who have jobs and pay taxes.
its my money and i can spend it in any way i want on myself and not give it to you so that you can give it away.
Judy- You are the perfect example of the kid that sat in the back of the class and goofed off while the other kids worked hard and understood that their education was important. Now because you goofed you want the kids in the front of the class to pay your way because you know nothing. You make it clear everytime you post that society is unfair to those who made wrong decisions along the way. Fair is defined by how hard you are willing to work not how willing you are to not work. I don't owe you
@1NationConservative2: LOL, I always got very good grades. Obviously you know nothing about me. There has to be a safety net for the less fortunate in society. If you think otherwise I would suggest reading "Oliver Twist." If you people have your way that's where we are headed.
@judyleasugar97 Yes there needs to be a safety net but not a way of life. It is not the Governments job to find work for you or others. It is your job to go out and find it. If what you say is true "there are plenty of jobs" then you must fall into the 4% that no matter how hard they try no one will hire them? It is surprising with your outllok on life. I would never hire someone like you and I think those that voted for Obama should be the first ones to loose their jobs and last to be hired:P
@1NationConservative2: I own my own business. Why do you think things were so great in the 50s and 60s? We had a vibrant middle class in this country because there was a safety net, among other things established by FDR. You want to see how things will get if you people destroy that net? Why don't you read "Oliver Twist."
@judyleasugar97 Again you are MORON! Do you know why those jobs were created? WAR! Study your history you DOPE! The top tax rate was 94% on those making over $200,000 per year and he wanted to tax all income over $20,000 per year at 100%. Does that sound like America to you? When he left office his policies were repealed. If he was a huge success then why are those tax rates not still in place. Everytime you post you show what a moron you are.
@1NationConservative2: The Republicans have done everything they can to reduce taxes on the wealthy. There has been a 30 year plan in place to accomplish that. The Republicans work for the 2 percent wealthiest.
@judyleasugar97 The Republicans have done everything they can to reduce taxes on the wealthy. There has been a 30 year plan in place to accomplish that. The Republicans work for the 2 percent wealthiest.
History has shown that everytime taxes are cut revenue goes up to the Federal Government- That is Fact-Thiis is something I know you hate but you can not dipute it. The question is then why would you want to reduce revenue to the Government by raising taxes?
The "POOL" you describe is called INSURANCE. Thats what Insurance is. The rates remain high because Gov imposes restrictions on how & where you can buy health insurance. Have you bothered to look into what the Health Care Bill has in it?
If it simply said everyone has to have insurance that there would be NO ARGUMENT. ITs not about Health Care but CONTROL. Its designed to break the backs of private insurance to bring everyone to Gov coverage.
@Texmurphy51: "Break the backs" of the insurance companies? LMFAO. One out of every three dollars spent on health care goes to an insurance company. They're doing very well. They could and would lower the cost if there was competition, as in competition from the government. What we have is a very watered down version of universal health care.
@judyleasugar97 How much of that dollar do they get to keep? You know that they do have to pay out for services. There is no competition because of the way Gov set it up, (thank you Ted Kennedy). The Gov would not be competition since it has unlimited resources & makes the rules. You only need to look at the other Gov services to see where this would go. The cost would be way more than present insurance companies.
@judyleasugar97 I can see you are a BIG GOVERNMENT person. The corruption & fraud in Medicare is unreal. False claims for medical supplies & treatment is everywhere.
You must not watch any News of read any on the Internet. Do a search for Medicare Corruption to see whats going on.
Every Government run service like Medicare or Welfarer is #1 full of corrution and spends more money for adminstrative costs than the people recieve.
That means more money is payed to the people running it.
@Texmurphy51: Obama is going after fraud in medicare. The fake companies in Florida, etc. What are you suggesting then? We trust the big corporations to run things? I'll take the government any day over them.
@judyleasugar97 Simple-You don't know anything about how big companies operate and profit is not a bad word. You seem to think that companies should only make a certain amount of money or grow to a certain size. Anything successful to you is evil. You are a Socialist. It's kind of like a gay coming out of the closet-you need to come out of the closet and admit you hate this Country and you are a Socialist.
@1NationConservative2: I am not against wealth. But couldn't these people with tens of billions of dollars sacrifice a few million so their workers can have a living wage and benefits? You bet they could. The welfare of the majority should supercede the profits of a few.
@judyleasugar97 Another Socialist statement. Here are some facts for you "Socialist Judy" there are approx 413 people in the United States that are worth over a billion dollars. Of those over half are considered to be democrats. Just because someone is worth a billion dollars or more does not mean they have a billion dollars. When determining personal wealth you take the value of all assets. You are also not considering the millions most of them give in charity every year. cont.
@1NationConservative2: I have problems with "charity." For one thing people get a tax deduction for giving to charity plus a lot of pats on the back for doing so. Secondly, it's rather demoralizing to people to have to accept charity. It does A LOT MORE for people to provide them with jobs that pay a living wage with benefits.
@judyleasugar97 What is it demoralizing to accept charity but not so to accept welfare? Perhaps thats the problem with those who have been on it for generations. If a job is good for those accepting charity why has Obama rolled back the welfare reform that was giving jobs to them?
I know its because all those on welfare are Democrat Voters. So you see its not about whats best for people but votes for the Rich & Powerful.
@Texmurphy51: Welfare is charity and it's very demoralizing. I've known people on welfare and none of them wanted to continue, but they had a young child and it was a tough choice. There is a segment in "Bowling for Columbine" about a welfare to work mother working 2 jobs (still not making it) who left her young son basically to be raised by the hoodlums in the neighborhood and the kid ended up taking a gun to school and shooting another kid. It's very sad. Welfare to work is not the answer.
@judyleasugar97 Now I know you are a complete MORON. At first I thought you were just trying to play stupid for fun and now I see that it is true. There is no THINKING human being that walks the face of the Earth that actually takes Micheal Moore seriously. His 9/11 movie was about as accurate as Loose Change. (oops I bet your stupid enough to think that is true also. ) Again-Anyone who spends their time blogging about Kurt Cobain tells me all I need to know about you.
@judyleasugar97 "You know lots of people besides myself who take Micheal Moore seriously" you do understand that Morons attract Morons don't you? Nothing in his 9/11 movie is real but it is a great movie for the Anti-America crowd. That is the crowd you feel most comfortable in and that does not surprise me at all.
@1NationConservative2: LOL, well, stick your head in the sand. Good luck with your delusions. Iraq was an UNNECESSARY war. Bush invaded for Haliburton and the oil companies.
@judyleasugar97 LOL, well, stick your head in the sand. Good luck with your delusions. Iraq was an UNNECESSARY war. Bush invaded for Haliburton and the oil companies. Again let me show you what a moron you are. NO ONE AMERICAN COMPANY HAS AN OIL CONTRACT IN IRAQ. Russia, China, Malaysia and other ave contracts. Your arguement does not hold water for that reason. If it were true you would be seeing Bush riding on top of a Oil Rig but that has not happened has it.
@1NationConservative2: Bush would not openly ride on an oil rig. Just because the companies appear to be foreign that doesn't mean they aren't connected to American companies. The President was an oil man for God's sake. His buddies wanted a foot in the middle east. The VP had friends in Haliburton who were salivating to make money off supplying the war.
@judyleasugar97 Can you prove that Russia, Malaysian, and Chinese companies are being supported by Bush and his "people"? Don't you see how stupid that sounds. Companies have to bid on oil contracts and no American companies won the bids you DOPE! The fact is this-The war in Iraq was a way for people like you to vent your hatred of George Bush. How American of you!
@judyleasugar97 You are incapable of thinking past one sentence statements that have no content or thought. As usual you have no substance or facts and only emotion which is typical of liberals. When faces with facts like "No American Oil Companies are drilling in Iraq or awarded contracts" your response is George Bush was the worst President. Do you see my point on why I see you as someone who never made it past the 3rd grade? You only use talking points but never use facts.
@judyleasugar97 Well then if Welfare to work is not the answer then lets just keep them on Welfare. Glad you mentioned that propagandist Michel Moore. You can find any example you want for a film. My mother lives in assisted housing & I see these welfare people. There is No reason they cant work. They can go to college FREE with child care at the school. The have a better care then I do, cell phone, internet, HD tv, & drink during the day while sunning themself.
@judyleasugar97 Well why stay on welfare if its not living? Unless your handicapped there was no reason to stay on it when jobs were plentiful. The reason is that to get a job would be a step down. Why would you work to get less than you get on welfare? Its like all the people on unemployment for 99weeks. Where I work, WE CAN GET PEOPLE. Base pay is $10/hr + medical (not bad for my area), & people choose to stay on unemployment. Dems promise more money to get voters, its that simple.
@Texmurphy51: Right now many people are having trouble finding jobs, in case you haven't heard. With very few exceptions, most people would really like to get off the welfare system.
@judyleasugar97 If you remember when jobs were plentiful & we had welfare reform, many were given that opportunity but found excuses not to work. I was going to college during that time & many were offered education, free transportation, free child care but still turned it down for welfare.
Why would you turn down free everything, with great medical coverage to work a job for less benefits?
Problem is welfare is Too Good, Too comfortable. Where do you get this BS you believe?
@Texmurphy51: "Many" What percentage is that exactly? There is always a small percentage of people, drug addicts and such, who don't want to work. Not a large percentage. Most people want to work. I knew 2 people who were on welfare and they were more concerned about how their young children would do in an uncaring child care situation. Most single parents have to work 2 or even 3 jobs to make ends meet and never see their kids. The kids are raised by hoodlums in the neighborhood.
@judyleasugar97 What percentage of those, as u say"want off the welfare system" choose work as an option? Where did you get this information? The idea that they need 2 or 3 jobs is a Dem tall tale. People who work get child assistance, food stamps, etc. If their wages are low. The first thing Obama did was to end the PRWORA putting many back on welfare. (Dem VOTERS). That way they can attend protests.
@Texmurphy51: LOL. "Tall tale"? It's lived by everyone I know who is a single parent. Because minimum wage is NOT a living wage people who are the sole head of household have to get 2 or 3 jobs to get by. I've known a number of women who for various reasons don't get child support. Most people I know are too proud to ask for food stamps if they're working. You must be wealthy and out of touch.
@judyleasugar97 Minumum wage is for students and those that are just starting in the workforce. If you are full grow adult and still working for minimum wage you have passed the MORON test and can be helped. It is not the responsibility of Americans to pay you more because you are stupid.
@1NationConservative2: One friend of mine struggled through college (her mother who was wealthy was too stingy to help her). She was a single parent and did sometimes 3 jobs. She graduated and became a teacher. She is doing okay financially now. It's not a reflection on one's intelligence that they may have to take a low paying job at some point, escpecially in today's economic situation.
@judyleasugar97 If her mother had helped she would never have learned to appreciate what she accomplished. What a great success story you just shared! Thanks!
@1NationConservative2: My friend is actually glad now her mother didn't help her because she doesn't feel indebted to someone who is basically a bitch. Sorry, the truth.
@judyleasugar97 That Bitch taught her a great lesson! My father taught me the samething. He loved me and supported me but said I would have to make it on my own if I ever wanted to appreciate success. I thank God for such a wise Father. You don't see things that way-you expect others to give and that is what makes you a liberal. By the way is Nancy paying more in taxes than she has to?
@judyleasugar97 Thanks for making my point on welfare. She used the jobs to move on to bigger better things. That is the purpose of min wage jobs. They were never meant to be used as a living wage but to move the economy forward and not keep America stupid. If flipping burgers paid $50,000 per year business would stall and we would not grow as a Nation. You are to EASY!
@1NationConservative2: If you people get your wish, to throw out minimum wage I don't know how it would lead to "bigger better things." And the job market right now is forcing educated people to take low paying jobs just to survive. You're out of touch.
@judyleasugar97 I'm not out of touch....my salary was cut by 40% due the economic downturn. What I am doing? Working 40% harder to earn more commissions. My salary will go back up in time but I don't feel as if anyone owes me something. That is the difference between you and I. That is why I',m successful and you are not.
@1NationConservative2: I own a successful business. You don't get it that this country is going to turn into something like "Oliver Twist" if the wealthy don't contribute more. It's not sustainable.
@judyleasugar97 I own a successful business. You don't get it that this country is going to turn into something like "Oliver Twist" if the wealthy don't contribute more. It's not sustainable.
What's with the Stupis Oliver Twist talking point? Your right Government spending is not sustainable. Stop the Spending and Social Programs like Obamacare that we can not afford. Would you run your business like the Federal Government? Would you raise prices to bring in more income?
@1NationConservative2: Have you ever read Charles Dickens? Do you know what life was like for the majority of people at that time? I want a there to be a decent country for my daughter to raise her children.
@judyleasugar97 Then maybe your husband needs to get to work and you need to not teach your daughter that the wealthy do not owe her something. If she wants to be a success she needs to rely on her own ambition and not look to Government as the answer. Tell her class warfare is not the way to see this world and teach her to be confidant in her own abilities. If not, you will have one more bleeding heart liberal sucking off of the federal government.
@1NationConservative2: The wealthy owe this country something. The infrastructure (which they utilize more than the average person) will not fix itself. The wars that they profit from will not pay for themselves. A better quality of life in the country benefits everyone.
@judyleasugar97 That is DUMBEST comment you have ever made and there has been a lot of competition. You are so far from a real American that it makes me sick. So you are saying the WEALTHY in this Country only make money from war? A better quality of life is not promised in this Country. It is something you can pursue through hard work. I didn't expect you to get that thought right.
@1NationConservative2: Actually, the Constitution states the government is to provide for the general welfare of the people. That's means the people, not catering to the 2 percent wealthiest. It is in the interest of the general public the wealthy contribute more. And by the way, I've worked hard since I was 15.
@judyleasugar97 YOU ARE STUPID AGAIN......The General Welfare Clause holds no legislative power. You might want to open a book sometime. It is the reason Obamacare will be defeated it court.
@1NationConservative2: It's meant to be a directive. Those in power should be thinking about what's best for the people in general. It's what the founding father's had in mind, not consideration for the "royalist" wealthy.
@judyleasugar97 So you are saying taxing the wealthy beyond what is fair is what is best for the welfare of the people? You once again prove what limited knowledge you have of Constitutional powers. Did our Founding Fathers have in mind cradle to grave care from the Government? No. Did they have in mind a massive takeover of business? NO! Did they have in mind taxing the American people with a UnConstitutional Healthcare Plan? NO Life, Liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness. Not a Welfare State!
@1NationConservative2: Well, I disagree with your assesment of fair. I think they should pay at least 40 percent. They caused the current economic crisis.
@judyleasugar97 Well, I disagree with your assesment of fair. I think they should pay at least 40 percent. They caused the current economic crisis.
Who caused the current economic crisis-the wealthy? No the democrats and republicans caused the problem with over spending and forcing freddie and fannie (Dodd and Frank) to back high risk loans. Where do you get your info from Judy? You apparently do no research but seek to blame the wealthy because that is what the liberals tell you to do. CRAZY
@judyleasugar97 Again you are stupid! Do you even know what Freddie and Fannie are and how they contributed to the paper that was traded on wall street? Before something can be traded on wall street it has to be bundled. That is where Dodd and Frank contributed to the econmic collaspe. You are like taking to a third grader-What is next from you-"I know you are but what I am?" Your knowledge is extremely shallow Judy.
@1NationConservative2: How much are the Republicans paying you to sit there and blog this garbage? Feel good about yourself? You're betraying your country.
@judyleasugar97 That's your answer? Where are your facts? Where is the content of your arguements? Believe me if I was being paid I would never waste my time on such a MORON! You are pure entertainment for me and my friends that laugh at your postings. Yes I do feel good about myself-I get a kick out of completely dismantling liberals like you. Facts are not garbage and the history of this Country is not garbage, It is liberals like you that see this Country as a welfare state that are GARBAGE!
@1NationConservative2: Funny, I don't feel anything you've said "desimated" me. You're completely full of it. I believe in fairness, not handing everything to 2 percent of the population. That's NOT as you call it a welfare state. You on the other hand seem to believe in welfare for the rich.
@judyleasugar97 Judy-you debate with emotion and not fact-that is the difference between liberals and conservatives. What do you mean when you say handing everything to 2 percent of the population? That is the part I don't understand about out. You seem to think the Government is in charge of the people when it fact they work for us. That is why the democrats lost so mant seats in the last election-people did not like the policies of the Obama Pelosi Reid Admin and they voted dems out.
@1NationConservative2: I've given you plenty of facts. Not my fault, you're not listening. And the problem with the midterms was complacency: not enough Dems got to the voter booth. If the Republicans screw things up enough, they will be voted out next election.
@judyleasugar97 This country would be a better place. For one thing, who's going to fix the crumbling infrastructure?
You have heard of shovel ready projects right? Oh yeah.....Obama said there are no such things. You might need to come up with another liberal talking point......that one is a little over two years old. You still have not given your opinion of Hugo Chavez????Why??? Also...what facts have you given? Please refer me to one correct fact with back up?
@judyleasugar97 You know something Judy? It is easy to be a liberal.......you can be as stupid as you want and facts never apply. The infrastructure is comment that goes all the way back to the bridge that collasped. (Mississippi I think). That was the talking point at that time. If you knew anything about federal spending you would know the billions that are wasted every year. Most Government programs work like this-you spend all you have and if you don't there will be no increase.
@1NationConservative2: No, it would be easier to be in the pockets of the wealthy. But I couldn't look at myself in the mirror if I did that. I don't know how you do. Here's an idea: maybe we should stop giving billionaires money they don't need. Spend the money on the infrastructure instead.
@judyleasugar97 Who is giving them money Judy? Did the Government make it for them? See what I mean-you think the Government is somehow in charge of our lives. So are you in favor of freezing peoples bank accounts that in your opinion have to much money and the Government takes it over? Now you are a Communist.
@judyleasugar97 I don't know what your comment refers to, you don't make much sense. You obviously have been drinking Rush Limbau cool-aid.
The story was reported on CNN you dope! When faced with facts blame it on Rush right? Seriously, you are so drunk on Pelosi's bathwater that you can't even form an opinion on her vacation paid for by us? You have no credibiltiy.
@judyleasugar97 Judy-your hero Nancy Pelosi just traveled by private plane, had a security detail and vacationed in Hawaii in a resort that costs $10,000 per night. Do you think that money should have gone to the infastructure. Is wealthy as Pelosi is should the taxpayers have had to fund that trip? Is this abuse by Pelosi or should she get a pass because she is a liberal. This is why Democrats have been voted out. They expect others to pay but because the "care" they are exempt. Nice!
@1NationConservative2: Shall we look at what the real rich in this country have and spend? People like the Waltons who have approaching 100 billion dollars? The Koch borthers oil billionaires? And yet these oil companies receives subsidies, corporate welfare. Exxon Mobil paid no taxes last year!
@judyleasugar97 Judy- You own your own business right? Then when it comes to paying your taxes you would know what an (NOL) is right? I doubt it but here is how EXXON paid no taxes. Under tax law you are allowed to roll forward losses from the previous year. Because Exxon lost so much the prior year they rolled forward the losses and even though they made 35 billion in 2009 they owed no taxes. Jeez! Don't you hate when facts get in the way of your arguements!
@judyleasugar97 Judy Judy Judy, Exxon Mobil payed no taxes because they moved operations outside of the US. This is what happens when you Raise Taxes. This is why the US is losing Mfg jobs. Tax increases are NOT the answer. You cant force business to stay in the US except at the point of a gun like old Russia. This is why there has been no recovery under Obama/Dem policy.
@Texmurphy51: Exxon paid no taxes because of subsidies. They are actually paid by the government not to raise prices. It's nothin less than extortion. Unbelievable.
@judyleasugar97 GM will pay NO TAXES for the next 10 years because of their subsidies. I dont hear you complaining about that.
If you talking about the 2009 Exxon tax situation you will find that they payed 47% of their profit worldwide in Taxes.They payed 15Billion in taxes. They actually did pay US taxes
If you want to understand what happend I am going to send you a link to read.
@judyleasugar97 Exxon paid no taxes because of subsidies. They are actually paid by the government not to raise prices. It's nothin less than extortion. Unbelievable
THis is your answer???? What about the point I made on (NOL) did you dismiss that because it is part of the tax code? You do know the purpose of subsidies don't you? Most likely not but you benefit from them.
@1NationConservative2: You mean the part of the tax code the Republicans put in there for their wealthy cronies? Maybe if the govt cut off subsidies and the oil co's raised the price of gas to ten dollars a gallon (what it would be without the subsidies) it would be enough of an incentive in this country to FINALLY get off fossil fuels, what we should have done a long time ago!
@judyleasugar97 How are nuclear power plants and the energy they produce affordable. How about wind energy and all the stupid green programs? Subsidies! If the Liberals would allow us to build refineries and drill our own oil...........guess what? We would not need the subsidies. How would ten dollar a gallon gas effect American families and business Judy? See what I mean? Everytime you open your mouth something stupid comes out.
@judyleasugar97 : We need to get off of oil as a fuel! It's destroying the planet!
I know you don't know this but.........to produce electricity who need guess what.......you need oil. You and Al Gore share a brian don't you? Even he is embarrassed to show his face in public anymore. Not you though.....you continue to go through life sitting on your thumb and spinning! I have to admit one thing though......you are great entertainment!
@judyleasugar97 Judy..........Did you know there are over 6000 different products made from petroleum? What is your plan for replacing those things that you use on a daily basis. You are way to easy.......Yawn...............
@judyleasugar97 Electric cars are not as efficicient as gasoline/diesel cars.
Power plants are 40% efficient vs internal combustion at 24%.
HOWEVER, there is a 10-12% loss in distribution, another 10% charging loss & a further 5% battery loss.
If you add the extra manufacturing energy for the batteries produced overseas & the energy to despose of the battery, it takes MORE energy to run an Electric Car. If you think wind turbines are the answer I will inform you about them also.
@judyleasugar97 I know people with electric cars and they aren't complaining. Really, it's moving in the right direction
That's you answer to Tex's comment? I know people? That's like saying I believe everything I read-First I write it down and then I read it. You have just defined "Dementia"-I wonder if it is covered under Obamacare for you?
@1NationConservative2: No one I know has complained about electric cars, and I have read about it. No one interviewed in anything I've read has complained.
@judyleasugar97 No one I know has complained about electric cars, and I have read about it. No one interviewed in anything I've read has complained.
Electric cars are great for those that want to own them...........but I enjoy my full size Suburan and my wife enjoys her H2 Hummer (BTW it's nice-black with 24" rims) I also have a drag racing car that I enjoy. If I'm willing to pay for it -who the hell do you think you are to tell me I can not drive what I want?
@judyleasugar97 I know but its NOT moving in the right direction. Misimformed people like you accept things like Ethanol or Electric cars when its the Wrong direction to go. You need to do the research and not be a Robot listening to people like Pelosi. What do you think would have happend if Gore was elected & we were forced to use lead acid battery cars as he wanted
@judyleasugar97 Don't worry Judy the free market will solve the problem........not the Government. The Government is not a business and can not produce anything.
@1NationConservative2: Oh give me a fucking break. They're politicians. They like to spout off they support this and that. In reality there was no support.
@judyleasugar97 You are such a MORON. Are you saying that passing Pell Grants for 11Billion Dollars is spouting off.? Passing No Child Left Behind is meaningless? There is a reason you are so Stupid.........You were the Child Left Behind and now you are the adult that has been left behind. Well Guess What! You are going to stay there because of your attitude and outlook on life. I love this Country and I love Capitalism....that is why I'm successful and you are looking for more Government cheese
@judyleasugar97 Funding for education has decreased dramatically. You are talking about a drop in the bucket. I am college educated, are you?
FSU-Majored in Economics with a minir in Stats. Maybe that explains why I work for REIT. Please show stats on the decrease in educational funding. You will not find it Judy.
@judyleasugar97 You need fossil fuel to generate electricity for your cars, there is no viable alternative. Wind & solar are not sufficient, ( will send you proof if you need it). Battery cars will cause more polution & use more energy than gas/diesel. The best future cars would be diesel turbine to electric or fuel cell. Fuel cell is most efficient. If you want clean power the only alternative is Nuclear, preferable the Thorium Reactor. Do some research & stop listening to Enviorweenies.
@Texmurphy51: I'm sure the oil billionaires would like you to think there is no viable alternative. Electric cars would work. I don't trust nuclear. There have been disasters like Chernobyl.
@judyleasugar97 I'm sure the oil billionaires would like you to think there is no viable alternative. Electric cars would work. I don't trust nuclear. There have been disasters like Chernobyl.
That's funny...........some people stick their finger in a light socket..........there goes the electric car idea.
@1NationConservative2: Yeah, worth repeating. I'm sure the oil billionaires would like you to think there's no viable alternative to fossil fuel. Stick your fingers in your ears till we don't have a planet to argue over any more.
@judyleasugar97 Judy-Oil will never be depleted. There are untapped sources around the world but there are people that will develop alternative sources of energy as a form of capitalism. When that source of energy is developed and easy to get into the economy and easy to distribute at a cost effective price-you will have the next Bill Gates. But until that time I'm going to burn as much fossil fuel as I want. Do you push your car? Most likely you can't afford one because of cash for clunkers.
@1NationConservative2: "Oil will never be depleted," wow. That's a Republican myth if I ever heard one, LOL. What's next, the world is flat? You never adressed the affects of fossil fuel on the environment. The polar ice caps are melting as we speak.
@judyleasugar97 You dope-Oil will never be depleted because of Capitalism. Someone and people are already developing alternative forms of energy. The solution will come from the free market and not theGovernment. Are you not able to think past the level of thought you demostrate in your posts? Do you know what critical thinking is? Try to think past "The Earth is Flat" and Polar Ice Caps". They have been melting since the Ice Age Judy.
@1NationConservative2: Oil is a resource, a limited resource like anything else. Duh. And the ice caps are melting at a much more significant rate than ever. Quit drinking the Glen Beck koolaid.
@judyleasugar97 I don't get my facts from Glenn Beck Judy. I get them from Logic. When I say Oil will never be depleted-again because of the free market and capitalism-you still have no idea what I'm talking about. Your answer is typical of emotional liberals. No facts, no critical thinking, and blaming your lack of knowledge on others. Have taken the time to research Hugo Chavez or are on still stuck on Y/T for your news? How about Clower and Pivens?
@1NationConservative2: My thirteen year old daughter knows that a natural resource like oil will eventually be gone if we continue to pump it at the rate we are. Logic tells you that. You're in la la land. How does Hugo Chavez affect the lives of Americans in any way?
@judyleasugar97 Judy-You are still missing the point........Let me give you an example even your 13 year old daughter could understand. If someone did not invent the paint brush we would still be finger painting. My point is this.....yes there will be an alternative to oil when the arket dictates it. Guess what Judy!!!! You ever comes up with it and the demand is there.........they will be a BILLIONAIRE! What will you do then? Remember once again....the Government does not produce anything.
@1NationConservative2: What are you trying to say in your oh so inarticulate way? That there will be an alternative to oil when the oil companies can find a way to profit from it? The oil companies have been effectively blocking alternatives for years.
@judyleasugar97 What I'm saying is this........when the free market (you and me) decides their is a viable and cost effective way to purchase and distribute and alternative fuel source then it will happen. Until that time their are over 6000 products sold everyday that require petro based products to manufacture them. You seem to think that overnight we should all turn off our motors and stop burning fossil fuels. Let the free market do what is suppose to do.
@1NationConservative2: Efforts to offer a low cost electric vehicle have been obstructed by the car industry and the oil industry and you know it. Hypocrite.
@judyleasugar97 Efforts to offer a low cost electric vehicle have been obstructed by the car industry and the oil industry and you know it. Hypocrite.
It can not be forced on the market by the Government. It costs billions in R&D to produce a new product and if it is not cost effective it can't make it to the market. Not to mention the fact that most red blooded Americans do not want to drive around in a glorified golf cart. What is it with you granola eaters?
@judyleasugar97 Everyone I know with an electric vehicle is perfectly happy with it. It's the way of the future.
Judy that is great and I'm happy for them. They bought what they wanted and that is the free market at work. What about all of the people that buy antique cars and love to work on cars as a hobbie? Are you suggesting these cars go the way of Cash for Clunkers? Are you saying all gas pumps should be shut down? How about all of the products made from Petro? Please respond.
@judyleasugar97 Eventually there will be fewer and fewer gas pumps. My belief. Either that or the planet will go
I don't disagree Judy (except for the wacky "planet" comment). When alternative power is affordable and it is able to reach the market place I support it. What I don't support is people like you that hate the wealthy and use big business as your sounding board. You still have no idea how a product makes it to the market "supply and demand". No supply and No demand.
Funny Judy uses Dickens as an example. Currently 1/2 the US households pay NO federal income tax. Business, & the so called "Wealthy" pick up the bill. Of those "Wealthy" it is only the, earners, pay the tax. "Old Money" like the Kennedys, John Kerry & Wife, Rockefeller, etc pay very little tax.
Of course you can just "FORGET" to pay taxes as did many of Obama Czar. Funny how they are all Democrats, the ones accusing others of being Tax Cheats.
Texmurphy51 9 months ago
@Texmurphy51 It is all she is left with.....Ha! You can track her comments by simply looking at what people like Ed Schultz, Nancy Pelosi, and the Tides Foundation want her to believe. Useful Idiot.
1NationConservative2 9 months ago
@1NationConservative2 Speaking of Peloci, she is a key speaker at the upcoming Soros Event to change the world economy. I wonder if Judy knows who Soros is or his connection to the Dems?
Maybe she is on his payroll as well, Ha Ha.
Dispite Judys wishful thinking, the Tea Party is growing & here to stay.
Texmurphy51 9 months ago
@Texmurphy51 You Know Something Tex.....I bet she does know who George Soros is but because she is a blind lemming and dumber than a bag of hammers she most likely thinks he is good for America. George Soros is a Economic World Terrorist. I truly believe Judy wants to see the USA go bankrupt because she hates everything it stands for-Freedom. She wants to be ruled because she is to weak to function in this world on her own. If Soros gets his way she will complain the bread lines are to long!
1NationConservative2 9 months ago
@1NationConservative2 Funny thing is that Soros made his Billions by breaking the backs of the Economic systems of countries, sending their people debt & poverty. The Left however sees him as a savior & gladly accepts money from him to run their party & propaganda machines.
Soros is current making BILLIONS as the US dollar drops in value, which is why he is funding Obama.
Soros has stated he wants to take down the USA so why do major Dems rub elbows with him??
MONEY!!!!!!!!
Texmurphy51 9 months ago
@Texmurphy51 That is exactly right! Spooky Dude is the backbone of Liberals. Judy makes me want to bang my head against the wall because you have to really try to be as politically and economically stupid as she is. I would submit that she is emotionally unstable and just looking to blame someone for her lot in life. I'm just saying...........
1NationConservative2 9 months ago
@1NationConservative2 Your never going to get Judy to look at the facts. I see no matter what you show her, she completely ignores it.
She actuallly wants the Government to tell her what to do, how & where to live,work,eat, think, instead of being free to make her own choice. I guess its a sense of security when that happens. I have relatives on welfare & they love it. Have a newer car then me, cable, cellphone, HD tv,& drink all day.
Texmurphy51 9 months ago
@Texmurphy51 You make a very good point. When you do not believe in your own abilities it is much easier to take from others. I nderstand there are those that need help due to a disability or they are out of work no fault of their own. Judy sees the Government as a way of life and she does not care who has to pay for it. That type of person I have no respect for especially when I work so hard for what I have earned. Things are changing as repubs are being voted out and Conservatives are voted in
1NationConservative2 9 months ago
@1NationConservative2 In the 60s I grew up in a small Pa town. There was only 1 family on welfare & they got enough food & cloths for the kids to live, no extravigant. The kids worked to get xtra stuff. Pressure was for them to get OFF welfare. We are now in debt because the Gov assistance has grown exponentially. Now a teenage girl gets preg & can live a sweet life. Why would u take a job & get less than on assistance? These are all good democrat voters of course.
Texmurphy51 9 months ago
@Texmurphy51 I agree....The Democrats of today would be considered Communists in the 60's. It is amazing how they have created an underclass of people by telling them they can not succeed without the Government. Twenty years ago my Dad told me-Son, at the rate you are going get use to me being poor. I was 22 at the time. That scared the crap out of me and I got going and made something of myself. Today-Democrats have created an enviroment where that is OK and it is the wealthy to blame. Amazing!
1NationConservative2 9 months ago
HEY PELOSI, YOU LOST YOUR JOB THANKS TO THE"'POOR ECONOMIC POLICIES" OF THE OBAMA/PELOSI/REED ADMINISTRATION YOU STUPID CUNT!! HA HA HA,!!! NOW TELL US AGAIN HOW 500 MILLION AMERICANS ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR JOBS WHEN THERE ARE ONLY 315 MILLION AMERICANS (INCLUDING KIDS AND RETIRED PEOPLE) IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY!!! PELOSI IS SO FUCKING STUPID SHE MUST WIN AWARDS FOR IT!!!!
timytim4prez 9 months ago
@timytim4prez Wecome to the site where the dumbest liberal in American posts. Allow me to introduce you to Judyleasugar97. Take the time to read some of her posts but make sure you put a helmet on because you will BANG YOUR HEAD against the wall! Enjoy!
1NationConservative2 9 months ago
@1NationConservative2 thanks, but if you want to see the dumbest liberal post thread, go to the "matt damon rips sara pain" video. look for posts from "youzentube" and "zeemba123." take care
timytim4prez 9 months ago
@timytim4prez I will check that one out! Judy you should go there and find more of your moron friends!
1NationConservative2 9 months ago
@timytim4prez BTW Tex is a great Conservative and a smart guy. Read some of his posts as well.
1NationConservative2 9 months ago
I see, so your saying Actual Facts are petty little issues that dont prove a point. How exactly do you decide what is Not Petty?
I guess Petty is anything that proves Liberal ideas incorrect.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51 I think we should go easier on Judy......she really can't help it.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2 I guess. I think though if she buys a Chevy Volt that will change her mind on electric cars. If you consider it has a 370lb battery that equals about 1gal of gas, & 9.6 gal tank which propells it 350miles. That comes to 36MPG if you get free electricity. My Honda 4 door Civic gets 45mpg on a trip with luggage in it. Why would you buy an electric car that uses more fuel?????
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51 Great point. What is interesting is you did not need someone like Judy or the Government to force you to purchase your Civic. What Judy will never understand is you weighed the pros and cons of a number of different cars, decided what was best for you, made a decision on what was the best value and made a decision in the free market. You didn't need cash for clunkers, tax incentives, or a pat on the back by Obama to make a decision.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2 All Judys decisions seem to be hinged on her belief that the world is going to end because of Global Warming.
Her statement that Scientists agree is dead wrong. a 2005 survey from more than 20 nations has revealed scientists are evenly split.
The 2009 survey is flawed in that it included mostly nonclimatologists & they were selected, not random.
Those whos jobs depend on warming chose warming.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51 What's interesting about Judy also is the fact that she hates big business like "Oil Companies" but she does not realize the Enviromental Movement is just another Big Business. This business is created in the form of scare tactics and people Al Gore have become very wealthy playing off the fears of people like Judy. She is convinced that we can just shut off the oil because she is such a small thinker and ruled by emotion.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2 Al Gore is set to become the first Carbon Credit Billionare. He along with others like Obama & Michael Moore say Capitalism is the problem, yet they have pockets stuffed with money. Its easy to tell others working hard that They should not amass wealth when your already rich yourself.
The very rich like John & Teresa Kerry pay only 14.76 % on the $5.1 Mill they earned in 2004 while John said its our duty to pay taxes. Most Rich Dems do the same.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51 ........not to mention the fact that it is a 120 billion dollar a year business. Last week these fine folks suffered the theft of 20 million in carbon credits. So the do-gooders even have theft and coruption in their new business.
John "Why the Long Face" Kerry is preaches a great game but as you have already heard he parked his yacht in a state that did not have as high of taxes but when exposed paid them. Don't forget the little Elf Timothy that blamed his crime on Turbo Tax!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2 We only need count the number of Tax Cheats in the Obama Team to see the hypocrisy. I think Judy has had enough. I just hope she does a search for the true facts instead of listening to Olberman or Thom Hartmann for all of her information.
I still want to know if she owns an electric car since she thinks it is the right direction to go.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51 In her mind she does not need to own an electric car to be right. If liberals just think the right thing that is good enough for them. Tex-I rent an electric car every weekend-its called a golf cart.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2 Yes the golf cart or they can just buy Carbon Credits & drive an SUV. I liked how when Obama did his world tour he spared no Fuel, flying his Posse in many jets. He wants me to turn down my heat/ac & ride a bicycle to work while he is burning more fuel flying his dog in a seperate jet than I will use in a lifetime.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2 Liberals are on suicide watch today. There favorite America hating spokesman is Gone! Keith Olbermann the hero of people like Judy and the the wetboy of Obama is out at MSNBC. What will the America Hating Left do now? I guess they still have Lesbo Racheal Madcow to listen to! Rush, Glenn and Sean must be laughing their heads off. It just goes to show again why Liberal talk radio or Liberal T/V never lasts. People want to hear the truth and lies get old!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
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Texmurphy51 1 year ago
Your mean Tom Hartmann? I have listened to him. He is very very good at the tactic of distraction when on a topic. His good memory allows him to jump subjects & ben facts, when the heats on. Write down what he says & check the FACTS. Dont take it as truth because you like it. Your comparing 2 progressive talk shows with Fox. Have you ever listened to Limbaugh or others? Are you in College?
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: I have checked his facts. Hartmann is right on.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 What facts have you checked Judy..........please provide one example so Tex and I can bury you again?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 You could not have checked Hartmanns Facts because he does not use Facts when he argues. He uses circular logic, deception & misdirection. Have you ever listened to Limbaugh or Beck?
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
wonder if this same itch has ever mentioned that gas prices have spiked under the muslims white house? oh and unemployment is still nearly 10% which is why american's took your power away since you dont care about people who have jobs and pay taxes.
its my money and i can spend it in any way i want on myself and not give it to you so that you can give it away.
nytech04 1 year ago
Judy- You are the perfect example of the kid that sat in the back of the class and goofed off while the other kids worked hard and understood that their education was important. Now because you goofed you want the kids in the front of the class to pay your way because you know nothing. You make it clear everytime you post that society is unfair to those who made wrong decisions along the way. Fair is defined by how hard you are willing to work not how willing you are to not work. I don't owe you
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: LOL, I always got very good grades. Obviously you know nothing about me. There has to be a safety net for the less fortunate in society. If you think otherwise I would suggest reading "Oliver Twist." If you people have your way that's where we are headed.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Yes there needs to be a safety net but not a way of life. It is not the Governments job to find work for you or others. It is your job to go out and find it. If what you say is true "there are plenty of jobs" then you must fall into the 4% that no matter how hard they try no one will hire them? It is surprising with your outllok on life. I would never hire someone like you and I think those that voted for Obama should be the first ones to loose their jobs and last to be hired:P
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I own my own business. Why do you think things were so great in the 50s and 60s? We had a vibrant middle class in this country because there was a safety net, among other things established by FDR. You want to see how things will get if you people destroy that net? Why don't you read "Oliver Twist."
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Again you are MORON! Do you know why those jobs were created? WAR! Study your history you DOPE! The top tax rate was 94% on those making over $200,000 per year and he wanted to tax all income over $20,000 per year at 100%. Does that sound like America to you? When he left office his policies were repealed. If he was a huge success then why are those tax rates not still in place. Everytime you post you show what a moron you are.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: The Republicans have done everything they can to reduce taxes on the wealthy. There has been a 30 year plan in place to accomplish that. The Republicans work for the 2 percent wealthiest.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
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@judyleasugar97 The Republicans have done everything they can to reduce taxes on the wealthy. There has been a 30 year plan in place to accomplish that. The Republicans work for the 2 percent wealthiest.
History has shown that everytime taxes are cut revenue goes up to the Federal Government- That is Fact-Thiis is something I know you hate but you can not dipute it. The question is then why would you want to reduce revenue to the Government by raising taxes?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
The "POOL" you describe is called INSURANCE. Thats what Insurance is. The rates remain high because Gov imposes restrictions on how & where you can buy health insurance. Have you bothered to look into what the Health Care Bill has in it?
If it simply said everyone has to have insurance that there would be NO ARGUMENT. ITs not about Health Care but CONTROL. Its designed to break the backs of private insurance to bring everyone to Gov coverage.
This so called "free coverage" will break the US.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: "Break the backs" of the insurance companies? LMFAO. One out of every three dollars spent on health care goes to an insurance company. They're doing very well. They could and would lower the cost if there was competition, as in competition from the government. What we have is a very watered down version of universal health care.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 How much of that dollar do they get to keep? You know that they do have to pay out for services. There is no competition because of the way Gov set it up, (thank you Ted Kennedy). The Gov would not be competition since it has unlimited resources & makes the rules. You only need to look at the other Gov services to see where this would go. The cost would be way more than present insurance companies.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: That is a moronic statement. Medicare runs just fine.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 I can see you are a BIG GOVERNMENT person. The corruption & fraud in Medicare is unreal. False claims for medical supplies & treatment is everywhere.
You must not watch any News of read any on the Internet. Do a search for Medicare Corruption to see whats going on.
Every Government run service like Medicare or Welfarer is #1 full of corrution and spends more money for adminstrative costs than the people recieve.
That means more money is payed to the people running it.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: Obama is going after fraud in medicare. The fake companies in Florida, etc. What are you suggesting then? We trust the big corporations to run things? I'll take the government any day over them.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Great comment Judy! Your true Socialist Colors are showing!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: How does mistrusting corporations make me a socialist??? What kind of logic is that?
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Simple-You don't know anything about how big companies operate and profit is not a bad word. You seem to think that companies should only make a certain amount of money or grow to a certain size. Anything successful to you is evil. You are a Socialist. It's kind of like a gay coming out of the closet-you need to come out of the closet and admit you hate this Country and you are a Socialist.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I am not against wealth. But couldn't these people with tens of billions of dollars sacrifice a few million so their workers can have a living wage and benefits? You bet they could. The welfare of the majority should supercede the profits of a few.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Another Socialist statement. Here are some facts for you "Socialist Judy" there are approx 413 people in the United States that are worth over a billion dollars. Of those over half are considered to be democrats. Just because someone is worth a billion dollars or more does not mean they have a billion dollars. When determining personal wealth you take the value of all assets. You are also not considering the millions most of them give in charity every year. cont.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I have problems with "charity." For one thing people get a tax deduction for giving to charity plus a lot of pats on the back for doing so. Secondly, it's rather demoralizing to people to have to accept charity. It does A LOT MORE for people to provide them with jobs that pay a living wage with benefits.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 What is it demoralizing to accept charity but not so to accept welfare? Perhaps thats the problem with those who have been on it for generations. If a job is good for those accepting charity why has Obama rolled back the welfare reform that was giving jobs to them?
I know its because all those on welfare are Democrat Voters. So you see its not about whats best for people but votes for the Rich & Powerful.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: Welfare is charity and it's very demoralizing. I've known people on welfare and none of them wanted to continue, but they had a young child and it was a tough choice. There is a segment in "Bowling for Columbine" about a welfare to work mother working 2 jobs (still not making it) who left her young son basically to be raised by the hoodlums in the neighborhood and the kid ended up taking a gun to school and shooting another kid. It's very sad. Welfare to work is not the answer.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Why does it not surprise me that you would quote something from a Micheal Moore movie?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Michael Moore speaks the truth.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Now I know you are a complete MORON. At first I thought you were just trying to play stupid for fun and now I see that it is true. There is no THINKING human being that walks the face of the Earth that actually takes Micheal Moore seriously. His 9/11 movie was about as accurate as Loose Change. (oops I bet your stupid enough to think that is true also. ) Again-Anyone who spends their time blogging about Kurt Cobain tells me all I need to know about you.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I know a lot of people besides myself who take Michael Moore seriously.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 "You know lots of people besides myself who take Micheal Moore seriously" you do understand that Morons attract Morons don't you? Nothing in his 9/11 movie is real but it is a great movie for the Anti-America crowd. That is the crowd you feel most comfortable in and that does not surprise me at all.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: LOL, well, stick your head in the sand. Good luck with your delusions. Iraq was an UNNECESSARY war. Bush invaded for Haliburton and the oil companies.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 LOL, well, stick your head in the sand. Good luck with your delusions. Iraq was an UNNECESSARY war. Bush invaded for Haliburton and the oil companies. Again let me show you what a moron you are. NO ONE AMERICAN COMPANY HAS AN OIL CONTRACT IN IRAQ. Russia, China, Malaysia and other ave contracts. Your arguement does not hold water for that reason. If it were true you would be seeing Bush riding on top of a Oil Rig but that has not happened has it.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Bush would not openly ride on an oil rig. Just because the companies appear to be foreign that doesn't mean they aren't connected to American companies. The President was an oil man for God's sake. His buddies wanted a foot in the middle east. The VP had friends in Haliburton who were salivating to make money off supplying the war.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Can you prove that Russia, Malaysian, and Chinese companies are being supported by Bush and his "people"? Don't you see how stupid that sounds. Companies have to bid on oil contracts and no American companies won the bids you DOPE! The fact is this-The war in Iraq was a way for people like you to vent your hatred of George Bush. How American of you!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: George Bush was the worst President ever. You're very naive.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 You are incapable of thinking past one sentence statements that have no content or thought. As usual you have no substance or facts and only emotion which is typical of liberals. When faces with facts like "No American Oil Companies are drilling in Iraq or awarded contracts" your response is George Bush was the worst President. Do you see my point on why I see you as someone who never made it past the 3rd grade? You only use talking points but never use facts.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I take that position becaue you're obviously not listening to me.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Well then if Welfare to work is not the answer then lets just keep them on Welfare. Glad you mentioned that propagandist Michel Moore. You can find any example you want for a film. My mother lives in assisted housing & I see these welfare people. There is No reason they cant work. They can go to college FREE with child care at the school. The have a better care then I do, cell phone, internet, HD tv, & drink during the day while sunning themself.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: I've known people on welfare and it's not living. You're better off.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Well why stay on welfare if its not living? Unless your handicapped there was no reason to stay on it when jobs were plentiful. The reason is that to get a job would be a step down. Why would you work to get less than you get on welfare? Its like all the people on unemployment for 99weeks. Where I work, WE CAN GET PEOPLE. Base pay is $10/hr + medical (not bad for my area), & people choose to stay on unemployment. Dems promise more money to get voters, its that simple.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: Right now many people are having trouble finding jobs, in case you haven't heard. With very few exceptions, most people would really like to get off the welfare system.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 If you remember when jobs were plentiful & we had welfare reform, many were given that opportunity but found excuses not to work. I was going to college during that time & many were offered education, free transportation, free child care but still turned it down for welfare.
Why would you turn down free everything, with great medical coverage to work a job for less benefits?
Problem is welfare is Too Good, Too comfortable. Where do you get this BS you believe?
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: "Many" What percentage is that exactly? There is always a small percentage of people, drug addicts and such, who don't want to work. Not a large percentage. Most people want to work. I knew 2 people who were on welfare and they were more concerned about how their young children would do in an uncaring child care situation. Most single parents have to work 2 or even 3 jobs to make ends meet and never see their kids. The kids are raised by hoodlums in the neighborhood.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 What percentage of those, as u say"want off the welfare system" choose work as an option? Where did you get this information? The idea that they need 2 or 3 jobs is a Dem tall tale. People who work get child assistance, food stamps, etc. If their wages are low. The first thing Obama did was to end the PRWORA putting many back on welfare. (Dem VOTERS). That way they can attend protests.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: LOL. "Tall tale"? It's lived by everyone I know who is a single parent. Because minimum wage is NOT a living wage people who are the sole head of household have to get 2 or 3 jobs to get by. I've known a number of women who for various reasons don't get child support. Most people I know are too proud to ask for food stamps if they're working. You must be wealthy and out of touch.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Minumum wage is for students and those that are just starting in the workforce. If you are full grow adult and still working for minimum wage you have passed the MORON test and can be helped. It is not the responsibility of Americans to pay you more because you are stupid.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: One friend of mine struggled through college (her mother who was wealthy was too stingy to help her). She was a single parent and did sometimes 3 jobs. She graduated and became a teacher. She is doing okay financially now. It's not a reflection on one's intelligence that they may have to take a low paying job at some point, escpecially in today's economic situation.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 If her mother had helped she would never have learned to appreciate what she accomplished. What a great success story you just shared! Thanks!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: My friend is actually glad now her mother didn't help her because she doesn't feel indebted to someone who is basically a bitch. Sorry, the truth.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 That Bitch taught her a great lesson! My father taught me the samething. He loved me and supported me but said I would have to make it on my own if I ever wanted to appreciate success. I thank God for such a wise Father. You don't see things that way-you expect others to give and that is what makes you a liberal. By the way is Nancy paying more in taxes than she has to?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Leave it to you people to drag religion into it.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 You DUMBASS! I was speaking of my Dad you Moron!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Thanks for making my point on welfare. She used the jobs to move on to bigger better things. That is the purpose of min wage jobs. They were never meant to be used as a living wage but to move the economy forward and not keep America stupid. If flipping burgers paid $50,000 per year business would stall and we would not grow as a Nation. You are to EASY!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: If you people get your wish, to throw out minimum wage I don't know how it would lead to "bigger better things." And the job market right now is forcing educated people to take low paying jobs just to survive. You're out of touch.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 I'm not out of touch....my salary was cut by 40% due the economic downturn. What I am doing? Working 40% harder to earn more commissions. My salary will go back up in time but I don't feel as if anyone owes me something. That is the difference between you and I. That is why I',m successful and you are not.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I own a successful business. You don't get it that this country is going to turn into something like "Oliver Twist" if the wealthy don't contribute more. It's not sustainable.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 I own a successful business. You don't get it that this country is going to turn into something like "Oliver Twist" if the wealthy don't contribute more. It's not sustainable.
What's with the Stupis Oliver Twist talking point? Your right Government spending is not sustainable. Stop the Spending and Social Programs like Obamacare that we can not afford. Would you run your business like the Federal Government? Would you raise prices to bring in more income?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Have you ever read Charles Dickens? Do you know what life was like for the majority of people at that time? I want a there to be a decent country for my daughter to raise her children.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Then maybe your husband needs to get to work and you need to not teach your daughter that the wealthy do not owe her something. If she wants to be a success she needs to rely on her own ambition and not look to Government as the answer. Tell her class warfare is not the way to see this world and teach her to be confidant in her own abilities. If not, you will have one more bleeding heart liberal sucking off of the federal government.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: The wealthy owe this country something. The infrastructure (which they utilize more than the average person) will not fix itself. The wars that they profit from will not pay for themselves. A better quality of life in the country benefits everyone.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 That is DUMBEST comment you have ever made and there has been a lot of competition. You are so far from a real American that it makes me sick. So you are saying the WEALTHY in this Country only make money from war? A better quality of life is not promised in this Country. It is something you can pursue through hard work. I didn't expect you to get that thought right.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Actually, the Constitution states the government is to provide for the general welfare of the people. That's means the people, not catering to the 2 percent wealthiest. It is in the interest of the general public the wealthy contribute more. And by the way, I've worked hard since I was 15.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 YOU ARE STUPID AGAIN......The General Welfare Clause holds no legislative power. You might want to open a book sometime. It is the reason Obamacare will be defeated it court.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: It's meant to be a directive. Those in power should be thinking about what's best for the people in general. It's what the founding father's had in mind, not consideration for the "royalist" wealthy.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 So you are saying taxing the wealthy beyond what is fair is what is best for the welfare of the people? You once again prove what limited knowledge you have of Constitutional powers. Did our Founding Fathers have in mind cradle to grave care from the Government? No. Did they have in mind a massive takeover of business? NO! Did they have in mind taxing the American people with a UnConstitutional Healthcare Plan? NO Life, Liberty, and the PURSUIT of happiness. Not a Welfare State!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Well, I disagree with your assesment of fair. I think they should pay at least 40 percent. They caused the current economic crisis.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Well, I disagree with your assesment of fair. I think they should pay at least 40 percent. They caused the current economic crisis.
Who caused the current economic crisis-the wealthy? No the democrats and republicans caused the problem with over spending and forcing freddie and fannie (Dodd and Frank) to back high risk loans. Where do you get your info from Judy? You apparently do no research but seek to blame the wealthy because that is what the liberals tell you to do. CRAZY
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Yes, the wealthy. They gambled with the investments of the middle class on Wall Street. That is common knowledge.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Again you are stupid! Do you even know what Freddie and Fannie are and how they contributed to the paper that was traded on wall street? Before something can be traded on wall street it has to be bundled. That is where Dodd and Frank contributed to the econmic collaspe. You are like taking to a third grader-What is next from you-"I know you are but what I am?" Your knowledge is extremely shallow Judy.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: How much are the Republicans paying you to sit there and blog this garbage? Feel good about yourself? You're betraying your country.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 That's your answer? Where are your facts? Where is the content of your arguements? Believe me if I was being paid I would never waste my time on such a MORON! You are pure entertainment for me and my friends that laugh at your postings. Yes I do feel good about myself-I get a kick out of completely dismantling liberals like you. Facts are not garbage and the history of this Country is not garbage, It is liberals like you that see this Country as a welfare state that are GARBAGE!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Funny, I don't feel anything you've said "desimated" me. You're completely full of it. I believe in fairness, not handing everything to 2 percent of the population. That's NOT as you call it a welfare state. You on the other hand seem to believe in welfare for the rich.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy-you debate with emotion and not fact-that is the difference between liberals and conservatives. What do you mean when you say handing everything to 2 percent of the population? That is the part I don't understand about out. You seem to think the Government is in charge of the people when it fact they work for us. That is why the democrats lost so mant seats in the last election-people did not like the policies of the Obama Pelosi Reid Admin and they voted dems out.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I've given you plenty of facts. Not my fault, you're not listening. And the problem with the midterms was complacency: not enough Dems got to the voter booth. If the Republicans screw things up enough, they will be voted out next election.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 If taxes were raised on the those making over 250k per year do you think somehow your life would be different?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: This country would be a better place. For one thing, who's going to fix the crumbling infrastructure?
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 This country would be a better place. For one thing, who's going to fix the crumbling infrastructure?
You have heard of shovel ready projects right? Oh yeah.....Obama said there are no such things. You might need to come up with another liberal talking point......that one is a little over two years old. You still have not given your opinion of Hugo Chavez????Why??? Also...what facts have you given? Please refer me to one correct fact with back up?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I don't get your statement. Are you saying the infrastructure in this country isn't crumbling?
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 You know something Judy? It is easy to be a liberal.......you can be as stupid as you want and facts never apply. The infrastructure is comment that goes all the way back to the bridge that collasped. (Mississippi I think). That was the talking point at that time. If you knew anything about federal spending you would know the billions that are wasted every year. Most Government programs work like this-you spend all you have and if you don't there will be no increase.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: No, it would be easier to be in the pockets of the wealthy. But I couldn't look at myself in the mirror if I did that. I don't know how you do. Here's an idea: maybe we should stop giving billionaires money they don't need. Spend the money on the infrastructure instead.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Who is giving them money Judy? Did the Government make it for them? See what I mean-you think the Government is somehow in charge of our lives. So are you in favor of freezing peoples bank accounts that in your opinion have to much money and the Government takes it over? Now you are a Communist.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: I don't know what your comment refers to, you don't make much sense. You obviously have been drinking Rush Limbau cool-aid.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 I don't know what your comment refers to, you don't make much sense. You obviously have been drinking Rush Limbau cool-aid.
The story was reported on CNN you dope! When faced with facts blame it on Rush right? Seriously, you are so drunk on Pelosi's bathwater that you can't even form an opinion on her vacation paid for by us? You have no credibiltiy.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy-your hero Nancy Pelosi just traveled by private plane, had a security detail and vacationed in Hawaii in a resort that costs $10,000 per night. Do you think that money should have gone to the infastructure. Is wealthy as Pelosi is should the taxpayers have had to fund that trip? Is this abuse by Pelosi or should she get a pass because she is a liberal. This is why Democrats have been voted out. They expect others to pay but because the "care" they are exempt. Nice!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Shall we look at what the real rich in this country have and spend? People like the Waltons who have approaching 100 billion dollars? The Koch borthers oil billionaires? And yet these oil companies receives subsidies, corporate welfare. Exxon Mobil paid no taxes last year!
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Do you know why?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy- You own your own business right? Then when it comes to paying your taxes you would know what an (NOL) is right? I doubt it but here is how EXXON paid no taxes. Under tax law you are allowed to roll forward losses from the previous year. Because Exxon lost so much the prior year they rolled forward the losses and even though they made 35 billion in 2009 they owed no taxes. Jeez! Don't you hate when facts get in the way of your arguements!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy Judy Judy, Exxon Mobil payed no taxes because they moved operations outside of the US. This is what happens when you Raise Taxes. This is why the US is losing Mfg jobs. Tax increases are NOT the answer. You cant force business to stay in the US except at the point of a gun like old Russia. This is why there has been no recovery under Obama/Dem policy.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: Exxon paid no taxes because of subsidies. They are actually paid by the government not to raise prices. It's nothin less than extortion. Unbelievable.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 GM will pay NO TAXES for the next 10 years because of their subsidies. I dont hear you complaining about that.
If you talking about the 2009 Exxon tax situation you will find that they payed 47% of their profit worldwide in Taxes.They payed 15Billion in taxes. They actually did pay US taxes
If you want to understand what happend I am going to send you a link to read.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
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@judyleasugar97 Why don't you just admit you are stupid and get this over with?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Exxon paid no taxes because of subsidies. They are actually paid by the government not to raise prices. It's nothin less than extortion. Unbelievable
THis is your answer???? What about the point I made on (NOL) did you dismiss that because it is part of the tax code? You do know the purpose of subsidies don't you? Most likely not but you benefit from them.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: You mean the part of the tax code the Republicans put in there for their wealthy cronies? Maybe if the govt cut off subsidies and the oil co's raised the price of gas to ten dollars a gallon (what it would be without the subsidies) it would be enough of an incentive in this country to FINALLY get off fossil fuels, what we should have done a long time ago!
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 How are nuclear power plants and the energy they produce affordable. How about wind energy and all the stupid green programs? Subsidies! If the Liberals would allow us to build refineries and drill our own oil...........guess what? We would not need the subsidies. How would ten dollar a gallon gas effect American families and business Judy? See what I mean? Everytime you open your mouth something stupid comes out.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: We need to get off of oil as a fuel! It's destroying the planet!
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 : We need to get off of oil as a fuel! It's destroying the planet!
I know you don't know this but.........to produce electricity who need guess what.......you need oil. You and Al Gore share a brian don't you? Even he is embarrassed to show his face in public anymore. Not you though.....you continue to go through life sitting on your thumb and spinning! I have to admit one thing though......you are great entertainment!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Using electricity does not burn as much fuel as using gasolene.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy........uuummmmm......most electricity is produced by burning fossil fuels. DUH!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy..........Did you know there are over 6000 different products made from petroleum? What is your plan for replacing those things that you use on a daily basis. You are way to easy.......Yawn...............
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Electric cars are not as efficicient as gasoline/diesel cars.
Power plants are 40% efficient vs internal combustion at 24%.
HOWEVER, there is a 10-12% loss in distribution, another 10% charging loss & a further 5% battery loss.
If you add the extra manufacturing energy for the batteries produced overseas & the energy to despose of the battery, it takes MORE energy to run an Electric Car. If you think wind turbines are the answer I will inform you about them also.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: I know people with electric cars and they aren't complaining. Really, it's moving in the right direction.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 I know people with electric cars and they aren't complaining. Really, it's moving in the right direction
That's you answer to Tex's comment? I know people? That's like saying I believe everything I read-First I write it down and then I read it. You have just defined "Dementia"-I wonder if it is covered under Obamacare for you?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: No one I know has complained about electric cars, and I have read about it. No one interviewed in anything I've read has complained.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 No one I know has complained about electric cars, and I have read about it. No one interviewed in anything I've read has complained.
Electric cars are great for those that want to own them...........but I enjoy my full size Suburan and my wife enjoys her H2 Hummer (BTW it's nice-black with 24" rims) I also have a drag racing car that I enjoy. If I'm willing to pay for it -who the hell do you think you are to tell me I can not drive what I want?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 I know but its NOT moving in the right direction. Misimformed people like you accept things like Ethanol or Electric cars when its the Wrong direction to go. You need to do the research and not be a Robot listening to people like Pelosi. What do you think would have happend if Gore was elected & we were forced to use lead acid battery cars as he wanted
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: Why is it wrong? We should keep using fossil fuels until we don't have a habitable planet any more???
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Don't worry Judy the free market will solve the problem........not the Government. The Government is not a business and can not produce anything.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: The government is all there is to protect the public from these powerful multi national corporations.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 What companies? Please give examples and why?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Exxon mobil, for one. Walmart.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Exxon mobil, for one. Walmart.
........and your point is.........please explain?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Why no response to my post about educational spending? HHHHMMMMMM??????
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Oh give me a fucking break. They're politicians. They like to spout off they support this and that. In reality there was no support.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 You are such a MORON. Are you saying that passing Pell Grants for 11Billion Dollars is spouting off.? Passing No Child Left Behind is meaningless? There is a reason you are so Stupid.........You were the Child Left Behind and now you are the adult that has been left behind. Well Guess What! You are going to stay there because of your attitude and outlook on life. I love this Country and I love Capitalism....that is why I'm successful and you are looking for more Government cheese
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Funding for education has decreased dramatically. You are talking about a drop in the bucket. I am college educated, are you?
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Funding for education has decreased dramatically. You are talking about a drop in the bucket. I am college educated, are you?
FSU-Majored in Economics with a minir in Stats. Maybe that explains why I work for REIT. Please show stats on the decrease in educational funding. You will not find it Judy.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 You need fossil fuel to generate electricity for your cars, there is no viable alternative. Wind & solar are not sufficient, ( will send you proof if you need it). Battery cars will cause more polution & use more energy than gas/diesel. The best future cars would be diesel turbine to electric or fuel cell. Fuel cell is most efficient. If you want clean power the only alternative is Nuclear, preferable the Thorium Reactor. Do some research & stop listening to Enviorweenies.
Texmurphy51 1 year ago
@Texmurphy51: I'm sure the oil billionaires would like you to think there is no viable alternative. Electric cars would work. I don't trust nuclear. There have been disasters like Chernobyl.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy-Take off the Ass Hat and read Tex's post again. Did you not read the alternatives he was talking about?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 I'm sure the oil billionaires would like you to think there is no viable alternative. Electric cars would work. I don't trust nuclear. There have been disasters like Chernobyl.
That's funny...........some people stick their finger in a light socket..........there goes the electric car idea.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Yeah, worth repeating. I'm sure the oil billionaires would like you to think there's no viable alternative to fossil fuel. Stick your fingers in your ears till we don't have a planet to argue over any more.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy-Oil will never be depleted. There are untapped sources around the world but there are people that will develop alternative sources of energy as a form of capitalism. When that source of energy is developed and easy to get into the economy and easy to distribute at a cost effective price-you will have the next Bill Gates. But until that time I'm going to burn as much fossil fuel as I want. Do you push your car? Most likely you can't afford one because of cash for clunkers.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: "Oil will never be depleted," wow. That's a Republican myth if I ever heard one, LOL. What's next, the world is flat? You never adressed the affects of fossil fuel on the environment. The polar ice caps are melting as we speak.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 You dope-Oil will never be depleted because of Capitalism. Someone and people are already developing alternative forms of energy. The solution will come from the free market and not theGovernment. Are you not able to think past the level of thought you demostrate in your posts? Do you know what critical thinking is? Try to think past "The Earth is Flat" and Polar Ice Caps". They have been melting since the Ice Age Judy.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Oil is a resource, a limited resource like anything else. Duh. And the ice caps are melting at a much more significant rate than ever. Quit drinking the Glen Beck koolaid.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 I don't get my facts from Glenn Beck Judy. I get them from Logic. When I say Oil will never be depleted-again because of the free market and capitalism-you still have no idea what I'm talking about. Your answer is typical of emotional liberals. No facts, no critical thinking, and blaming your lack of knowledge on others. Have taken the time to research Hugo Chavez or are on still stuck on Y/T for your news? How about Clower and Pivens?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: My thirteen year old daughter knows that a natural resource like oil will eventually be gone if we continue to pump it at the rate we are. Logic tells you that. You're in la la land. How does Hugo Chavez affect the lives of Americans in any way?
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Judy-You are still missing the point........Let me give you an example even your 13 year old daughter could understand. If someone did not invent the paint brush we would still be finger painting. My point is this.....yes there will be an alternative to oil when the arket dictates it. Guess what Judy!!!! You ever comes up with it and the demand is there.........they will be a BILLIONAIRE! What will you do then? Remember once again....the Government does not produce anything.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: What are you trying to say in your oh so inarticulate way? That there will be an alternative to oil when the oil companies can find a way to profit from it? The oil companies have been effectively blocking alternatives for years.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 What I'm saying is this........when the free market (you and me) decides their is a viable and cost effective way to purchase and distribute and alternative fuel source then it will happen. Until that time their are over 6000 products sold everyday that require petro based products to manufacture them. You seem to think that overnight we should all turn off our motors and stop burning fossil fuels. Let the free market do what is suppose to do.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Efforts to offer a low cost electric vehicle have been obstructed by the car industry and the oil industry and you know it. Hypocrite.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Efforts to offer a low cost electric vehicle have been obstructed by the car industry and the oil industry and you know it. Hypocrite.
It can not be forced on the market by the Government. It costs billions in R&D to produce a new product and if it is not cost effective it can't make it to the market. Not to mention the fact that most red blooded Americans do not want to drive around in a glorified golf cart. What is it with you granola eaters?
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Everyone I know with an electric vehicle is perfectly happy with it. It's the way of the future.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Everyone I know with an electric vehicle is perfectly happy with it. It's the way of the future.
Judy that is great and I'm happy for them. They bought what they wanted and that is the free market at work. What about all of the people that buy antique cars and love to work on cars as a hobbie? Are you suggesting these cars go the way of Cash for Clunkers? Are you saying all gas pumps should be shut down? How about all of the products made from Petro? Please respond.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@1NationConservative2: Eventually there will be fewer and fewer gas pumps. My belief. Either that or the planet will go.
judyleasugar97 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Eventually there will be fewer and fewer gas pumps. My belief. Either that or the planet will go
I don't disagree Judy (except for the wacky "planet" comment). When alternative power is affordable and it is able to reach the market place I support it. What I don't support is people like you that hate the wealthy and use big business as your sounding board. You still have no idea how a product makes it to the market "supply and demand". No supply and No demand.
1NationConservative2 1 year ago
@judyleasugar97 Hugo Chavez is you and how you think you DOPE!
1NationConservative2 1 year ago