- at this moment there was no info about any "Deathwing mount"
- ...I just don't get what you wanted to say ;p
As a sidenote - Deathwing will have level 92 (but we'll still see a skull, like with other bosses) and developers consider him to be the final boss...but there are also some who say that Blizz says so to cover the real end boss. My bet? There is some new Old God in play and it is pulling all the strings.
@KminekOdRozkminek sorry,my mistake :) meant to say level 85 players with a deathwing mount.And I meant to say that It would be a shame to see what is like,the omega destroyer of all stuff destroyable, underneath a DK's ass.
@KminekOdRozkminek oh and on the boss subject?I agree,it doesn't seem right to just have one epic final boss.What would be truly epic is every single boss of ever to all join up in one place and each be boosted to level 95.And when you defeat them on heroic difficulty(hehe,impossible,but fun) one omega ultra boss appears,takes the energy of every boss,and then uses it against you.So epicly impossible,it puts dividing by 0 to shame in terms of impossible.
@N00bizme You just killed me with your comments. Kudos 4 U ;)
About the epicness... I'm a bit afraid about the direction the game is going. What I mean is that the evolution of our characters (in terms of sheer power) can be described with one word - hypertrophy. Example. In WotLK our chars have up to ~30k HP whereas in Cata beta it can go as high as 100k! And we're talking about just five more levels! What about the Curse of Flesh? Races of Azeroth were supposed to be weakened by it, right?
@remwietje Wishful thinking, wishful thinking ;P Don't forget that Blizzard is a part of Activision now - Bobby Kotick will be sad if someone tells him that they want to make ANYTHING cheaper :/
@XMr3aFeeSaX You must've been drinking the same sh** those guys from Badlands did! And now they're babbling about the "true story" about "The Day That Deathwing Came" ;p
@BlackWingMaker I won't agree with everything you said, but I think it's obvious that people have different opinions and may think some races are lame and some other ones are awesome. Goblins are the Horde equivalent of Gnomes and the Worgen will give players an option to play a more ferocious race while still choosing Allies. Great choice of new races IMHO.
lmao.. a new age of what? lvl cap? woooo big deal.. a new age of BS.... yay I can lvl up again... thats it.. no stroy.. no reason to get new gear except to throw it all away with the nxt expansion (that bliz will bring)... I played this crap.. there is no EG, no story, nothing that made me want to play. I started b/c of the old games and the books b/c of the the real good stories.. played the game and all I got was crap.. no CS's no reason to lvl except better, community sucks. bring on FFXIV
@keeshorror I am not sure whether I understood what you intended to say here. It's not only Deathwing and his son Nefarian that are returning - there are also other members of the black dragonflight that are returning. Sintharia (Lady Sinestra), Deathwings consort and Nefarian's mother is one of them. Not only that, but also Onyxia (her daughter and Nefarian's sister) is returning...as an undead dragon. Sweet, ain't it? ;D
@juanbandito A dwarf would say: "Watch your tongue, boy!"...or something along the lines (it's in the game, isn't it?). What makes you think that Horde players won't like the Goblins? As far as I know, Alliance players don't abhore Gnomes ;p
@juanbandito well yes its a smack to the face i admit but look at the racial nice 15% faster skinning XD compared to racials of goblins the worgen fails XD
@Dstratsapplehacks Well, they actually downgraded the idea a bit by deleting the guild talents - now they will be more like skills (received each level). In the end, I think that it's the better option because I can imagine the quarrels in guilds when they would have to choose how to spend their points:
- Let's take this talent.
- No, it sucks! We'll take that one!
- Are you mad?! This one is rubbish! We'll take this one!
@charlzneon Again, the problem with Taurens is that majority of ppl tend to treat them simply as...cows. And the term 'paladin' is understood only in the context of holy warriors, mainly conected with the human race or the Alliance races in general. Try to understand that there are also "other kinds" of paladins, like the Blood Knights (Blood Elf paladins, who had to steal their holy powers from M'uru). Now, Sunwalkers (Tauren paladins) are just another kind of paladins - think about that.
@KminekOdRozkminek perhaps... I am gonna get a holy cow, just for the fun of it xD But there is no way I can take a bubbling, holyspell-casting cow serius XD
@MrMinnimoe I must admit that, beside the goblins, Taurens are one of those things in WoW that some people (me included) have problems to accept. They're just too...how to put it...cow-wy? ;P
@KminekOdRozkminek Well, my main is a tauren :D But I have accepted that I'm a cow :> I just like their big sized bodies, mounts and weps :D and the fact that they have horns is pure "AW3SOM3N3SS"! ;D
@MrMinnimoe Nothing to add here ;) But come Cataclism, the Alliance will have their own animalistic race - the Worgen. Any thoughts on them? They don't have horns, but their claws should be enough to make them interesting ;) And check this out - they can be druids so, in the end, we'll be able to play a human that changed to a (were)wolf...that can change into other animals. Isn't that awesome? ;D
@XZslickrickZX I don't know which is worse - lava that kills you in a few seconds or invisible walls that prevent you from falling into that lava. Taking the invisible walls into consideration I must tell you that I would choose the lava xP
@ministerofhardstyle Thought the same thing just after they announced it, but now - after reading more lore and seeing some changes in the game - I changed the status from "absolutely abhore" to "waiting to analyse it further". I would advise doing the same thing. There is a good article about the "holy cow" on wow-dot-com - it's worth checking it out.
@ministerofhardstyle It is, a cow that works for the horde as a paladin? Paladins are holy, (good). Blizzard had to smoke some shit before they did that!
@Demonic1526 Yep, you're absolutely right. I've done my deal of reading recently (especially the "Know Your Lore" posts about Dwarfs on WoW-dot-com) and I have to admit that I was wrong. My bad. On the other hand, the appearance of Dwarven Shamans was a bit limited, not to say nonexistent. But, as you mentioned, the Wildhammer clan are the guys to look up if anyone is interested in Dwarven Shams.
@Spwanky We have already somewhat covered the topic. If you want to find more info about the Sunwalkers you should head to WoWWiki, but at this moment some data is missing (probably due to the NDA of Cataclysm alpha). If I'm not mistaken, there should also be a post about the Sunwalkers on WoW-dot-com.
hey guys i have not be on Wow for like a year or two and i just need to know if cataclysm has come out already and if so whats it like with new lands and flying mounts in the eastern kingdoms and others such?
@r2d2rx I think it is a way better strategy than, e.g. the one with the Crisis game, where just a percent of interested ppl could actually run it. WoW may not be technically stunning but at least even my laptop can run it (and it is far from an Alienware-rig laptop). And I wouldn't say that character models are ugly - I may dislike some specific models, but the overall style of the graphics is quite good.
@KminekOdRozkminek Crysis is a very good example for a Game which has the possibility to have stunning graphics for ppl with a good pc - but still runs on low detail on old PCs. I m just really dissapointed that WoW didnt get a completely improved graphic engine - for s.o. who didnt play WoW for 2 years Cataclysm almost looks the same. But there is no accounting for taste and it seems there are not many ppl like me who think graphics are very important for the atmosphere...
@r2d2rx Well... I think I understand you - graphics ARE important in creating proper atmosphere, but it is more about their style than technology behind it. At least, that's what I think. And the graphic engine? It's old, but I understand that a complete change of the engine is very much impossible, especially for such a behemoth of a game like WoW. There is just too much content that would have to be created from the scratch.
@nuttyjunior Me too. I thought that the Silverwing Sentinels and the Night Elf and Draenei forces in Forest Song would save the forest. It seems that Blizzard thinks something completely different :/
@grandgamR57 Blizz is trying to make leveling and questing as pleasurable as possible - this is why they're changing some zones. New players will most probably experience an easier, quicker, but also more smooth and interesting leveling process. Some old quests, which in Blizzard devs' eyes were not interesting enough will be scraped or, more possibly, replaced by new ones.
80's on the other hand, will quest mostly in the new zones, such as Twilight Highlands.
The reason Taurens can become paladins is because of their racial. increased health. they can be every tank class now. which is useful with the racial
I don't think so. Yes - Taurens may be good tanks, but no - they're not getting the new race/class mix because of a racial. Blizz simply wanted to give players new ways of playing their favourite race (or class) and decided to add some fresh options. Now they have to add some good lore, so that we can actually believe that a Tauren Paladin is not a bad joke ;P
I think it's more about being up-to-date with the game mechanics - the old world is...well...old ;P WoW has changed significantly through those five years. They're still changing the game in a way that new people will have more fun. The fact that in some cases the fun factor is more important than the lore is saddening, but hey - we can't have everything, can we?
i think blizzard has to eliminate goblins cause their lame and put worgens on the horde because come on werewolf dont belong to the good side -.-, and make another race for the alliance
Goblins were always the funny bit about WoW - it's hard to make them serious and even harder to rip them out from the game. You'll have to live with it. They are something of a counterpart to the Alliance Gnomes. Besides, they fought alongside the Orcs during the first wars, before the action of WoW.
As for the Worgens, they are not the werewolfs fought in Duskwood or anything like that - they're Gilneans (humans!) infected by the Worgen curse.
Does it matter? Does it matter?! Well of course it does! For me, without the great story and lore behind almost everything that is in the game...WoW would be just a "fantasy Quake" or something like that. Lore is the power that keeps me (and probably at least few millions of other ppl) so attached to the game.
I like the worgen but not the goblins. I dont like the fact that they mess up the old world either... kinda nostalgy if you ask me, good old STV, tanaris etc. If you ask me the expansions never got as good as the original. With every new expansion WoW became a lil more boring. Still a wicked game ofc! But im just holding my breath for this one... They better do something nicer,i dropped from 30 hours playing a week to 4 since its not that great anymore!
It just depends on what you like to do in the game. Blizzard is adding more of everyTHING, and for everyONE so it's hard to say that the game lacks something that it had earlier. Maybe it's the sheer size of WoW and the amount of things that can be done that make your favourite elements kinda "small" and harder to notice.
I am in favour of the "makeup", but would like to see the Old World remade in a way that all old things remain...but are even more beautiful. Can Blizz do that for me? ;P
I have the same feelings, but it seems that Blizz is doing that to somehow balance the race-class combinations for the Horde and the Alliance. You can check them on the web - just google for:
raceclassmatrix en US
(with _ instead of spaces)
There are 39 combinations for the Hordies and 38 for the Allies. IMHO just enough to add a gnome hunter to the mix ;) Besides, the Tauren Paladin is as bad as the Dwarf Shaman - both are unnecessary and wrong lore-wise. Delete them Blizz, we beg you :/
You're correct, but it does not change the situation much - Tauren Sunwalkers are not the Holy Paladins of the Alliance (Blood Elves being the remains of High Elves). I can't get rid of the horrible idea that Blizz is "stretching" the lore to fit "holy cows" into the game ;P As far as I know, Aponi Brightmane is the only Sunwalker present in the game (at least for now). And yes, I didn't had the opportunity to read many WoW books.
story is evoving it would not make any sence in past
but we not playing past
hey there is also undead druid exist
Feldan has learned how to reanimate the deceased druids of Jaedenar into intelligent undead druids who retain many of their abilities. These undead druids have such an intimate knowledge of nature that they are able to spread the corruption of Felwood much further and faster than normal. Fel'dan carries the greatsword, Hellfire
Yep, you're right - Orcs are preparing for the new danger that's far closer than Northrend. That's why they're upgrading Ogrimmar's city walls. I even read a bit about those walls in an article (or was it an interview?) at...errr...wow-dot-com?
Speaking of capital cities... Any guesses about where new ones will be placed?
IMHO Worgen capital is not a big problem - Blizz said they're making Gilneas a two-in-one zone so it's pretty obvious that it'll have the 1st & 2nd zone, plus the capital, in it.
Goblins are a bit harder. From what I found in the net it seems that Lost Isles will be placed at the shore of Kalimdor (1st zone + capital) and the re-done Azshara will play the role of the 2nd zone.
@KminekOdRozkminek Blizz has already said the new races WILL NOT have capital cities. Goblins will have a section of ogrimarr and worgen will get a new district in Stormwind.
It looks like I missed that bit :/ Could you point the exact place and moment they said that? Some link perhaps? Thx in advance :)
Speaking of Ogrimm and SW - aren't those cities already getting too much attention? Don't get me wrong, but on some servers everyone is sitting in those two capitals and other ones are as if abandoned. Isn't Cata a great opportunity to revitalize at least some of those places? E.g., if it is the Night Elves who brought Worgen to the Alliance...place'em in Darna :)
@KminekOdRozkminek I dont have a link or anything but they said it at blizzcon when I went. The reason they gave is the exact same thing you just said. Some of the capitals are ghost towns already and they dont wanna spend time making new cities no one will use and they dont want to revamp the unpopular ones and in the end no one uses them still.
Sounds reasonable. Funny thing is that I wrote what I wrote as an argument FOR revamping old cities, not against it ;P Still, makes me wonder about Gilneas - it's a big human city, a capital even. Is it going to be just a typical zone?
Hmm. I love the new design. Makes it look even more grand. I don't care what people say, Blizzard actually does a good job with WoW. We're all still playing, right?
It's typicall to MMO games that after some time it's hard to come up with new designs for better gear/more dangerous enemies/more powerful spells and skills.
Up to level 60 we had e.g. Onyxia, who was one of the hardest bosses. BC brought e.g. Illidan and WotLK just recently introduced the Lich King's stronghold with some of his most powerful minions. In Cata we will have Deathwing. And in the next expansion...who knows? Blizz will have to come up with some even greater foes ;)
this is ganna be awsome...goblin rogues are ganna be hated by allys =D woot woot =D and goblin shamans are ganna healing mages on drugs...so cant wait =D
Gentleman, gentleman, please behave like civilized people ;P Tauren Paladin is a controversial topic. No wonder that some ppl (here it was japanesekid23) make fun out of it by creating such mixes as the Tauren Rogue (can't wait to see such thing in some comic strip at Wow official site ;) ). IMHO the Tau Pal is not what I expected to see in the game, but I understand Blizzard that they want to keep a balance between Alliance and Horde race/class options.
Were there any news about how much one will need to PvP to gain the new gear? I didn't heard anything about that. Please send me some info or links if you know something new (maybe I'll update the info 'bout the movie).
You know what? That would make sense. After all, who knows who the undead was in previous life? We have Undead Priests (even holy ones!) so the paladin... Interesting, interesting indeed ;)
It's simple. They have a plan which says: "We'll develop Cataclysm until it's done. Meanwhile, let's polish Wrath". This way, players have new content all the time. Now we're playing Wrath but, when everything that is planed for it will be added, there will be nothing else to do than release Cataclysm. They just plan things for few years ahead ;)
It will be released..."when it's done". Don't you know Blizzard? ;)
About the new races... I think that if they add a good story and background for them, they will be just fine. Also, if you don't like them...there is no need to play them :)
I'm just saying that some people don't like the idea of new races being Goblin and Worgen. If you're asking about my opinion... I'm a gnome lover - don't expect me to love goblins ;P
And as for the new captal cities - Twaalfstrepen said there won't be any. I checked it and it's true - no new capitals for Goblins and Worgen. Sorry to dissappoint you - felt the same thing :/
Yep, checked it out and I can confirm - the capital city of Gilneas won't be Worgen's capital. It's going to be a new BG, with districts that have to be captured to win. It's great that every battleground has its own special feature. Looking forward to check it out :)
The art for Warcraft has gotten genuinely beautiful. It's either improving the graphics (water) or finding new visual methods to cope with necessary deficiencies, like the style adopted to accommodate low polygon counts.
I always placed art style above "real-life" graphics - this is why most games "die" after some time. Crysis was beautiful (in the technical sense), Everquest 2 had "realistic" graphics...and who remembers them now? Only the most devoted fans. And WoW? It's still on top ;)
It's simple - because everybody is fed up with the old. If you want to start a new char you have to make the same quests as with previous avatars. You already seen every zone, monster, quest and so on. So, after making two expansions that "go forward" (add new lands) they want to re-invent the old. It's a great idea IMHO. They also want to gather more new players because the last two add-ons were mainly for the hardcore WoW players.
I'm not sure if I understood you. The Sunken City of Vashj'ir, which is placed in the Maelstrom (or beneath - hard to say really), is one of the totally new zones. But Blizzard said they will remake ALL of them, so I think I can go as far as saying that all zones will be new. At least in some way.
Actually, W3 never mentioned Vashj'ir, or if it did, it didn't in detail. There's bound to be plenty more in the Maelstrom, including Nazjatar itself.
But it's not a portal of any sort. Not anymore. Not since it sploded.
its also because blizz gets lots of complaints about how all high level zones are awsome and tht low level places have been forgotten about...all wayz needed a touch up in graphics anywho
yea i looked at Aion it looks Awesome and instead of 15$ for a month you play for actualy 15 for a month so unlike WoW you pay for two months you get two month is for pc breaks for a week you can't freeze but in aion it only counts playtime. but seeing how WAR came out its 1st year aion will probaly have some major issues, lol like on War you can get stuck like if theres a box there is a aura of the box that you can't walk through and fall through the ground.
mutliclassing? WoW has more races multicalssing doesn't mean Priest/warrior stuff its just in the chaos of the cat races will adapt and learn new paths, and if you sayWoW is taking WAR guild lvling a lot of mmorpg's have had that kind of system before WAR was out you know WAR just had its 1 year anversiray =D grats WAR!!!! i'm a WAR/WoW player swicth games every cupple months.
Aion's gonna be better.... Blizzard's gettin desperate, taking ideas from Warhammer online (guild leveling/benefiets) and multiclassing (guild wars), and it seems that they're rushing it. Ever since the old lore writer died the story has been going far downhill, this is World of Warcraft's last stand. If a player is able to kill or even weaken Deathwing I will be THOROUGHLY dissapointed. He's nearly a god slayer.
That's an interesting problem. On one side, Deathwing is powerful (still, IMHO he's a dragon with an armour, not a titan or smthn) so he should be hard to take down. But on the other...it's technically imposible to make such a huge group of ppl fight him together. I'm want to see how Blizzard will handle this one.
All this stuff about new expansion. Feel like playing again, because of the worgen and be able to fly in Azeroth. Tauren as paladin can't end good tho.. I stopped playing because of wotlk was too easy, but now it looks kind of fun again, but I guess I wont start playing again, because I'm focusing on school atm
I think I've seen such a comic strip where an Undead Hunt had the problem you mentioned xD But, the situation with Gnomes would be similar - how are they supposed to tame an animal that is (in most cases) bigger than them? They would end up as a snack ;P
well im pretty sure goblins can make hunters :) and thay are same size xD btw i don't read WoW comics. that undead hunter thing was just the first thing that came to my head xD
On the official site, in community/comics/2008/May you will find a comic strip by Eiru - there's something about relationships between the Undead and animals ;D
epic
Ultamitespore 1 year ago
ya cata is soooo sick
galarnn 1 year ago
WoW, one of the games where you can dance around hot lava and still be okay.
goruu 1 year ago
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dougly911 1 year ago
I just hope I won't start seeing level 85 deathwing mounts flying around.
N00bizme 1 year ago
@N00bizme
- mounts don't have levels like players
- at this moment there was no info about any "Deathwing mount"
- ...I just don't get what you wanted to say ;p
As a sidenote - Deathwing will have level 92 (but we'll still see a skull, like with other bosses) and developers consider him to be the final boss...but there are also some who say that Blizz says so to cover the real end boss. My bet? There is some new Old God in play and it is pulling all the strings.
What are your guesses?
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@KminekOdRozkminek sorry,my mistake :) meant to say level 85 players with a deathwing mount.And I meant to say that It would be a shame to see what is like,the omega destroyer of all stuff destroyable, underneath a DK's ass.
:)
P.S the game
hehe I'm evil
N00bizme 1 year ago
@KminekOdRozkminek oh and on the boss subject?I agree,it doesn't seem right to just have one epic final boss.What would be truly epic is every single boss of ever to all join up in one place and each be boosted to level 95.And when you defeat them on heroic difficulty(hehe,impossible,but fun) one omega ultra boss appears,takes the energy of every boss,and then uses it against you.So epicly impossible,it puts dividing by 0 to shame in terms of impossible.
:)
N00bizme 1 year ago
@N00bizme You just killed me with your comments. Kudos 4 U ;)
About the epicness... I'm a bit afraid about the direction the game is going. What I mean is that the evolution of our characters (in terms of sheer power) can be described with one word - hypertrophy. Example. In WotLK our chars have up to ~30k HP whereas in Cata beta it can go as high as 100k! And we're talking about just five more levels! What about the Curse of Flesh? Races of Azeroth were supposed to be weakened by it, right?
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
omg this is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
linusgellert 1 year ago
nice expension :D
next step : WOW prepaid game card cheaper?,,
remwietje 1 year ago
@remwietje Wishful thinking, wishful thinking ;P Don't forget that Blizzard is a part of Activision now - Bobby Kotick will be sad if someone tells him that they want to make ANYTHING cheaper :/
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
Deathwing , i'll rape ur butt XDD
XMr3aFeeSaX 1 year ago
@XMr3aFeeSaX You must've been drinking the same sh** those guys from Badlands did! And now they're babbling about the "true story" about "The Day That Deathwing Came" ;p
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@BlackWingMaker I won't agree with everything you said, but I think it's obvious that people have different opinions and may think some races are lame and some other ones are awesome. Goblins are the Horde equivalent of Gnomes and the Worgen will give players an option to play a more ferocious race while still choosing Allies. Great choice of new races IMHO.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
lmao.. a new age of what? lvl cap? woooo big deal.. a new age of BS.... yay I can lvl up again... thats it.. no stroy.. no reason to get new gear except to throw it all away with the nxt expansion (that bliz will bring)... I played this crap.. there is no EG, no story, nothing that made me want to play. I started b/c of the old games and the books b/c of the the real good stories.. played the game and all I got was crap.. no CS's no reason to lvl except better, community sucks. bring on FFXIV
turrel01 1 year ago
@turrel01 why are you talking about FF in a WoW vid ...
appple33 1 year ago
deathwind hasnt returned hes son did nefarian nefarian go reanimated by deathwing and deathwing made this terror
keeshorror 1 year ago
@keeshorror I am not sure whether I understood what you intended to say here. It's not only Deathwing and his son Nefarian that are returning - there are also other members of the black dragonflight that are returning. Sintharia (Lady Sinestra), Deathwings consort and Nefarian's mother is one of them. Not only that, but also Onyxia (her daughter and Nefarian's sister) is returning...as an undead dragon. Sweet, ain't it? ;D
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
hahaha horde get goblins!!! what a smack in the fucking face to the hordies out there!! hahahahhahahaha!!
juanbandito 1 year ago
@juanbandito A dwarf would say: "Watch your tongue, boy!"...or something along the lines (it's in the game, isn't it?). What makes you think that Horde players won't like the Goblins? As far as I know, Alliance players don't abhore Gnomes ;p
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@KminekOdRozkminek exactly my point allys have finally got a cooler race than horde though (in my opinion i could say.
juanbandito 1 year ago
@juanbandito Dude, Horde has Taurens, Alliance has Gnomes, now Horde gets Goblins and Alliance gets Worgen... So what is the difference?
Jasppier 1 year ago
@juanbandito well yes its a smack to the face i admit but look at the racial nice 15% faster skinning XD compared to racials of goblins the worgen fails XD
numaorvipekid49375 1 year ago
@juanbandito I'm playing alliance and Goblins are awesome
turbulenter 1 year ago
Epic......
Crimsonz1234 1 year ago
Taurens become paladins, Does Blizzard also work in India?
DJoxedorium 1 year ago
@DJoxedorium What makes you thinks so? Because cows are holy animals there? ;p
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@KminekOdRozkminek Hell yeah dude, Someone got the clue! :)
DJoxedorium 1 year ago
I really look forward to the guild leveling systems i think those are going to be sick
Dstratsapplehacks 1 year ago
@Dstratsapplehacks Well, they actually downgraded the idea a bit by deleting the guild talents - now they will be more like skills (received each level). In the end, I think that it's the better option because I can imagine the quarrels in guilds when they would have to choose how to spend their points:
- Let's take this talent.
- No, it sucks! We'll take that one!
- Are you mad?! This one is rubbish! We'll take this one!
...and so on, and so forth ;p
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
Tauren paladins.... a moo cow holy warrior... yeah... no.
charlzneon 1 year ago
@charlzneon Again, the problem with Taurens is that majority of ppl tend to treat them simply as...cows. And the term 'paladin' is understood only in the context of holy warriors, mainly conected with the human race or the Alliance races in general. Try to understand that there are also "other kinds" of paladins, like the Blood Knights (Blood Elf paladins, who had to steal their holy powers from M'uru). Now, Sunwalkers (Tauren paladins) are just another kind of paladins - think about that.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@KminekOdRozkminek perhaps... I am gonna get a holy cow, just for the fun of it xD But there is no way I can take a bubbling, holyspell-casting cow serius XD
MrMinnimoe 1 year ago
@MrMinnimoe I must admit that, beside the goblins, Taurens are one of those things in WoW that some people (me included) have problems to accept. They're just too...how to put it...cow-wy? ;P
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@KminekOdRozkminek Well, my main is a tauren :D But I have accepted that I'm a cow :> I just like their big sized bodies, mounts and weps :D and the fact that they have horns is pure "AW3SOM3N3SS"! ;D
MrMinnimoe 1 year ago
@MrMinnimoe Nothing to add here ;) But come Cataclism, the Alliance will have their own animalistic race - the Worgen. Any thoughts on them? They don't have horns, but their claws should be enough to make them interesting ;) And check this out - they can be druids so, in the end, we'll be able to play a human that changed to a (were)wolf...that can change into other animals. Isn't that awesome? ;D
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
Only thing thats gonna piss me off is the fact that ther is SO much lava, i allways fall in it and die lol ;)
XZslickrickZX 1 year ago
@XZslickrickZX I don't know which is worse - lava that kills you in a few seconds or invisible walls that prevent you from falling into that lava. Taking the invisible walls into consideration I must tell you that I would choose the lava xP
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
tauren paladins...that just killed the game so fucking hard!
ministerofhardstyle 1 year ago
@ministerofhardstyle Thought the same thing just after they announced it, but now - after reading more lore and seeing some changes in the game - I changed the status from "absolutely abhore" to "waiting to analyse it further". I would advise doing the same thing. There is a good article about the "holy cow" on wow-dot-com - it's worth checking it out.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@ministerofhardstyle It is, a cow that works for the horde as a paladin? Paladins are holy, (good). Blizzard had to smoke some shit before they did that!
ellefsen96 1 year ago
@Demonic1526 Yep, you're absolutely right. I've done my deal of reading recently (especially the "Know Your Lore" posts about Dwarfs on WoW-dot-com) and I have to admit that I was wrong. My bad. On the other hand, the appearance of Dwarven Shamans was a bit limited, not to say nonexistent. But, as you mentioned, the Wildhammer clan are the guys to look up if anyone is interested in Dwarven Shams.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
So if Deathwing wakes up and does that to Azeroth... Blizz better gives me some fucking imba tank gear or I'm going dps :O
Horvarth88 1 year ago
Tauren Paladin? lol
Spwanky 1 year ago
@Spwanky We have already somewhat covered the topic. If you want to find more info about the Sunwalkers you should head to WoWWiki, but at this moment some data is missing (probably due to the NDA of Cataclysm alpha). If I'm not mistaken, there should also be a post about the Sunwalkers on WoW-dot-com.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
hey guys i have not be on Wow for like a year or two and i just need to know if cataclysm has come out already and if so whats it like with new lands and flying mounts in the eastern kingdoms and others such?
atomicbombish 1 year ago
@atomicbombish We're still waiting, but there are news almost every day now b'coz of the Friends & Family alpha testing that started just recently.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
TUAREN PALLY!!!! YES!!!!!!
TheWowNoobie 1 year ago
Wow DirectX 9 Water and Fire Effects from 2002. Slightly improved Landscape Textures, Character Models still ugly as fuck. Good job Blizzard.
r2d2rx 1 year ago
@r2d2rx I think it is a way better strategy than, e.g. the one with the Crisis game, where just a percent of interested ppl could actually run it. WoW may not be technically stunning but at least even my laptop can run it (and it is far from an Alienware-rig laptop). And I wouldn't say that character models are ugly - I may dislike some specific models, but the overall style of the graphics is quite good.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@KminekOdRozkminek Crysis is a very good example for a Game which has the possibility to have stunning graphics for ppl with a good pc - but still runs on low detail on old PCs. I m just really dissapointed that WoW didnt get a completely improved graphic engine - for s.o. who didnt play WoW for 2 years Cataclysm almost looks the same. But there is no accounting for taste and it seems there are not many ppl like me who think graphics are very important for the atmosphere...
r2d2rx 1 year ago
@r2d2rx Well... I think I understand you - graphics ARE important in creating proper atmosphere, but it is more about their style than technology behind it. At least, that's what I think. And the graphic engine? It's old, but I understand that a complete change of the engine is very much impossible, especially for such a behemoth of a game like WoW. There is just too much content that would have to be created from the scratch.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
Horde FTW
FlameShadowX 1 year ago
Firemourne?
Lavamourne?
Sergioo4444 1 year ago
@Sergioo4444 Netherweave, Frostweave...Emberweave?
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@KminekOdRozkminek Hah! Was close! The new tailoring material will be called Embersilk ;) It was said in a recent blue post.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
i hate how orcs ravage ashenvale
nuttyjunior 1 year ago
@nuttyjunior Me too. I thought that the Silverwing Sentinels and the Night Elf and Draenei forces in Forest Song would save the forest. It seems that Blizzard thinks something completely different :/
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
Whens it out?
daknessreaper 1 year ago
@daknessreaper "When it's done." ;) Or, if my info is right, somewhere in 2010. At least this is what Mike Morhaime said some time ago.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
@daknessreaper october or november or december 1 of those
OttselDaxter1 1 year ago
They changed Azeroth because of Deathwing's comeback which "shook all of azeroth"
BloodLineAuthor 1 year ago
the tauren paladin order will be called The Sunwalkers and they got they're powers from the sun like druids got they're powers from the moon
BennyIsip 1 year ago
they are powers from the sun?
got they are powers from the moon...
Nyter25 1 year ago
@BennyIsip thank you someone understands how they can use light powers
6oobs 1 year ago
how will the changed areas effect new players and were will 80s quest?
grandgamR57 1 year ago
@grandgamR57 Blizz is trying to make leveling and questing as pleasurable as possible - this is why they're changing some zones. New players will most probably experience an easier, quicker, but also more smooth and interesting leveling process. Some old quests, which in Blizzard devs' eyes were not interesting enough will be scraped or, more possibly, replaced by new ones.
80's on the other hand, will quest mostly in the new zones, such as Twilight Highlands.
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
The goblin racials sound awesome
Sparky9728 2 years ago
@Sparky9728 Even too awesome if you ask me ;P
KminekOdRozkminek 1 year ago
The reason Taurens can become paladins is because of their racial. increased health. they can be every tank class now. which is useful with the racial
obelisklarvan 2 years ago
I don't think so. Yes - Taurens may be good tanks, but no - they're not getting the new race/class mix because of a racial. Blizz simply wanted to give players new ways of playing their favourite race (or class) and decided to add some fresh options. Now they have to add some good lore, so that we can actually believe that a Tauren Paladin is not a bad joke ;P
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
@KminekOdRozkminek LOL funny 1
Diabolist10 1 year ago
WHY DO THEY CHANGE AZERTOH -.-
godisputte 2 years ago
COS OLD AZEROTH IS BORING AS SHIT
obelisklarvan 2 years ago 10
I think it's more about being up-to-date with the game mechanics - the old world is...well...old ;P WoW has changed significantly through those five years. They're still changing the game in a way that new people will have more fun. The fact that in some cases the fun factor is more important than the lore is saddening, but hey - we can't have everything, can we?
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
i think blizzard has to eliminate goblins cause their lame and put worgens on the horde because come on werewolf dont belong to the good side -.-, and make another race for the alliance
corlando3 2 years ago
Well, how to put it... You're wrong ;P
Goblins were always the funny bit about WoW - it's hard to make them serious and even harder to rip them out from the game. You'll have to live with it. They are something of a counterpart to the Alliance Gnomes. Besides, they fought alongside the Orcs during the first wars, before the action of WoW.
As for the Worgens, they are not the werewolfs fought in Duskwood or anything like that - they're Gilneans (humans!) infected by the Worgen curse.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
1:03 the giraffe got owned.
TheNevii 2 years ago 19
Hayley Davis has the right idea, it's a good game, and does the "lore" really matter to how fun the game is?
BetaThanAlpha 2 years ago
Does it matter? Does it matter?! Well of course it does! For me, without the great story and lore behind almost everything that is in the game...WoW would be just a "fantasy Quake" or something like that. Lore is the power that keeps me (and probably at least few millions of other ppl) so attached to the game.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
I like the worgen but not the goblins. I dont like the fact that they mess up the old world either... kinda nostalgy if you ask me, good old STV, tanaris etc. If you ask me the expansions never got as good as the original. With every new expansion WoW became a lil more boring. Still a wicked game ofc! But im just holding my breath for this one... They better do something nicer,i dropped from 30 hours playing a week to 4 since its not that great anymore!
Perditionroad 2 years ago
It just depends on what you like to do in the game. Blizzard is adding more of everyTHING, and for everyONE so it's hard to say that the game lacks something that it had earlier. Maybe it's the sheer size of WoW and the amount of things that can be done that make your favourite elements kinda "small" and harder to notice.
I am in favour of the "makeup", but would like to see the Old World remade in a way that all old things remain...but are even more beautiful. Can Blizz do that for me? ;P
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
I have the same feelings, but it seems that Blizz is doing that to somehow balance the race-class combinations for the Horde and the Alliance. You can check them on the web - just google for:
raceclassmatrix en US
(with _ instead of spaces)
There are 39 combinations for the Hordies and 38 for the Allies. IMHO just enough to add a gnome hunter to the mix ;) Besides, the Tauren Paladin is as bad as the Dwarf Shaman - both are unnecessary and wrong lore-wise. Delete them Blizz, we beg you :/
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
Probably yes...but not now. Not in Cataclysm, that's for sure. But somewhere along the road...it's bound to happen one day or another.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
i have big hopes for this expantion, WOTLK sucks hard : / ruined the wow lore
Segerzzang 2 years ago
Could you be a bit more specific? Some examples perhaps?
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
the biggest fail > Tauren Paladin...
all other combinations r acceptable but this one just dont fit. Taurents r bound to nature, there is nothing holy in their culture.
ofc thats my opinion :P
Sandithemage 2 years ago
fail taruen paladin dont follow holy light they follow the sun they are called paladins of sun or sunwalkers they exist in lore before catacysm
that what you get not reading books
undead4500 2 years ago
You're correct, but it does not change the situation much - Tauren Sunwalkers are not the Holy Paladins of the Alliance (Blood Elves being the remains of High Elves). I can't get rid of the horrible idea that Blizz is "stretching" the lore to fit "holy cows" into the game ;P As far as I know, Aponi Brightmane is the only Sunwalker present in the game (at least for now). And yes, I didn't had the opportunity to read many WoW books.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
hey blood elf paladins are called blood knights
story is evoving it would not make any sence in past
but we not playing past
hey there is also undead druid exist
Feldan has learned how to reanimate the deceased druids of Jaedenar into intelligent undead druids who retain many of their abilities. These undead druids have such an intimate knowledge of nature that they are able to spread the corruption of Felwood much further and faster than normal. Fel'dan carries the greatsword, Hellfire
undead4500 2 years ago
this looks so awesome can't wait
XSNIPERJGANGSTA 2 years ago
The lost isles don't show on the map, but if you talk to a flight master and look at the top left, it shows them.
schrayfam 2 years ago
Oh fucking hell that's cool, o_o
KaiserDanieru 2 years ago
cool but,does blizzard really need that much money?
underkiller17 2 years ago
is it just me...or does Orgrimmar look different...?
hayleydavis10 2 years ago
Yep, you're right - Orcs are preparing for the new danger that's far closer than Northrend. That's why they're upgrading Ogrimmar's city walls. I even read a bit about those walls in an article (or was it an interview?) at...errr...wow-dot-com?
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
Speaking of capital cities... Any guesses about where new ones will be placed?
IMHO Worgen capital is not a big problem - Blizz said they're making Gilneas a two-in-one zone so it's pretty obvious that it'll have the 1st & 2nd zone, plus the capital, in it.
Goblins are a bit harder. From what I found in the net it seems that Lost Isles will be placed at the shore of Kalimdor (1st zone + capital) and the re-done Azshara will play the role of the 2nd zone.
Anybody would like to comment on this?
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
@KminekOdRozkminek Blizz has already said the new races WILL NOT have capital cities. Goblins will have a section of ogrimarr and worgen will get a new district in Stormwind.
Twaalfstrepen 2 years ago
It looks like I missed that bit :/ Could you point the exact place and moment they said that? Some link perhaps? Thx in advance :)
Speaking of Ogrimm and SW - aren't those cities already getting too much attention? Don't get me wrong, but on some servers everyone is sitting in those two capitals and other ones are as if abandoned. Isn't Cata a great opportunity to revitalize at least some of those places? E.g., if it is the Night Elves who brought Worgen to the Alliance...place'em in Darna :)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
@KminekOdRozkminek I dont have a link or anything but they said it at blizzcon when I went. The reason they gave is the exact same thing you just said. Some of the capitals are ghost towns already and they dont wanna spend time making new cities no one will use and they dont want to revamp the unpopular ones and in the end no one uses them still.
Twaalfstrepen 2 years ago
Sounds reasonable. Funny thing is that I wrote what I wrote as an argument FOR revamping old cities, not against it ;P Still, makes me wonder about Gilneas - it's a big human city, a capital even. Is it going to be just a typical zone?
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
Hmm. I love the new design. Makes it look even more grand. I don't care what people say, Blizzard actually does a good job with WoW. We're all still playing, right?
hayleydavis10 2 years ago
It's typicall to MMO games that after some time it's hard to come up with new designs for better gear/more dangerous enemies/more powerful spells and skills.
Up to level 60 we had e.g. Onyxia, who was one of the hardest bosses. BC brought e.g. Illidan and WotLK just recently introduced the Lich King's stronghold with some of his most powerful minions. In Cata we will have Deathwing. And in the next expansion...who knows? Blizz will have to come up with some even greater foes ;)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
when does the game come in store?
mikkizorr 2 years ago
Somewhere in 2010...or 2011? One thing's for sure - the game will come out..."when it's done" ;)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
F*cking wow
ForsakenZOL 2 years ago
FOR THE HORDE!!
RAPEPILLOW 2 years ago
WOW and heroine are just the same thing..
WOW sucks
PitaRnR 2 years ago
I would say that WoW sucks...you in, once you give it a chance ;P
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
this is ganna be awsome...goblin rogues are ganna be hated by allys =D woot woot =D and goblin shamans are ganna healing mages on drugs...so cant wait =D
118warlock118 2 years ago
lol, tauren rogue.....?
japanesekid23 2 years ago
idiot it was a tauren paladin
118warlock118 2 years ago
stupid ass, i was just saying it would be funny to see a tauren rogue =/
japanesekid23 2 years ago
Gentleman, gentleman, please behave like civilized people ;P Tauren Paladin is a controversial topic. No wonder that some ppl (here it was japanesekid23) make fun out of it by creating such mixes as the Tauren Rogue (can't wait to see such thing in some comic strip at Wow official site ;) ). IMHO the Tau Pal is not what I expected to see in the game, but I understand Blizzard that they want to keep a balance between Alliance and Horde race/class options.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
DUMB have to pvp a shit ton to get all new 85 gear. And i hate to level
BruceBrozowski 2 years ago
Were there any news about how much one will need to PvP to gain the new gear? I didn't heard anything about that. Please send me some info or links if you know something new (maybe I'll update the info 'bout the movie).
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
CANT WAIT!
boergekaj 2 years ago
UNDEAD PALADIN ANYONE??!!
complex112 2 years ago
You know what? That would make sense. After all, who knows who the undead was in previous life? We have Undead Priests (even holy ones!) so the paladin... Interesting, interesting indeed ;)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
Man i cant wait for cataclysm to come out.
Smuck3rzOriginal365 2 years ago
wow why are they making a new expansion when wolk came out months before
socom123456789101112 2 years ago
It's simple. They have a plan which says: "We'll develop Cataclysm until it's done. Meanwhile, let's polish Wrath". This way, players have new content all the time. Now we're playing Wrath but, when everything that is planed for it will be added, there will be nothing else to do than release Cataclysm. They just plan things for few years ahead ;)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
Omg, I dont know how people can dislike this, I can't wait! flyers in org, race changeing my smell cow to a troll :D Its never been better!!
Claawsome 2 years ago 3
This will be the death a wow...LAME!
bazsi 2 years ago
Death of Wow...? Rather a new beginning ;)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
the new races sucks!!! but mount in azeroth!!!!!! it really rock! when gonna this one release?
azerman1 2 years ago
It will be released..."when it's done". Don't you know Blizzard? ;)
About the new races... I think that if they add a good story and background for them, they will be just fine. Also, if you don't like them...there is no need to play them :)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
wtf u saying, goblins look badass
cant wait to see their new capital city
paydafee 2 years ago
I'm just saying that some people don't like the idea of new races being Goblin and Worgen. If you're asking about my opinion... I'm a gnome lover - don't expect me to love goblins ;P
And as for the new captal cities - Twaalfstrepen said there won't be any. I checked it and it's true - no new capitals for Goblins and Worgen. Sorry to dissappoint you - felt the same thing :/
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
worgen did had capital that before it was turned into bg
undead4500 2 years ago
Yep, checked it out and I can confirm - the capital city of Gilneas won't be Worgen's capital. It's going to be a new BG, with districts that have to be captured to win. It's great that every battleground has its own special feature. Looking forward to check it out :)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
The art for Warcraft has gotten genuinely beautiful. It's either improving the graphics (water) or finding new visual methods to cope with necessary deficiencies, like the style adopted to accommodate low polygon counts.
JagaimoLoco 2 years ago 2
I always placed art style above "real-life" graphics - this is why most games "die" after some time. Crysis was beautiful (in the technical sense), Everquest 2 had "realistic" graphics...and who remembers them now? Only the most devoted fans. And WoW? It's still on top ;)
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
one of blizzards better ideas but the new races suck
MarksmanFilms 2 years ago
Will have to wait to work out an opinion on new races. It's hard to say now whether I'll love them or curse them.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
I'm loving the "WoW will die from Aion" comments. Keep 'em up. Not like we haven't seen this from:
LoTR
WarHammer
RuneScape
etc.
IAmIllidanStormrage 2 years ago 8
why they replace the old area with new??
IcyFury4 2 years ago
It's simple - because everybody is fed up with the old. If you want to start a new char you have to make the same quests as with previous avatars. You already seen every zone, monster, quest and so on. So, after making two expansions that "go forward" (add new lands) they want to re-invent the old. It's a great idea IMHO. They also want to gather more new players because the last two add-ons were mainly for the hardcore WoW players.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
I don't think this will be everywhere this land, I think you may have to enter the middle of the map "maelstrom" to get to it, just a conspiracy :/
WarcraftAzraman 2 years ago
I'm not sure if I understood you. The Sunken City of Vashj'ir, which is placed in the Maelstrom (or beneath - hard to say really), is one of the totally new zones. But Blizzard said they will remake ALL of them, so I think I can go as far as saying that all zones will be new. At least in some way.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
The Sunken City of Vashj'ir is beneath of the Maelstrom ull know if u played W3
Vixn95 2 years ago
Actually, W3 never mentioned Vashj'ir, or if it did, it didn't in detail. There's bound to be plenty more in the Maelstrom, including Nazjatar itself.
But it's not a portal of any sort. Not anymore. Not since it sploded.
JagaimoLoco 2 years ago 3
its also because blizz gets lots of complaints about how all high level zones are awsome and tht low level places have been forgotten about...all wayz needed a touch up in graphics anywho
118warlock118 2 years ago 2
Agreed - let's refresh the old and tweak what was broken. Well...maybe 'what could be done better' instead of 'broken' ;P
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
BC-Warlock
WOTLK- DK & paladins
Cataclysm- since the elements are unblanced maybe druid & shamans.
Rolling a Goblin!!!!!!! time is money freind.
dargurt 2 years ago 6
BC was warlock and rogue ;)
ROCKSOUTLOUD 2 years ago
yea i looked at Aion it looks Awesome and instead of 15$ for a month you play for actualy 15 for a month so unlike WoW you pay for two months you get two month is for pc breaks for a week you can't freeze but in aion it only counts playtime. but seeing how WAR came out its 1st year aion will probaly have some major issues, lol like on War you can get stuck like if theres a box there is a aura of the box that you can't walk through and fall through the ground.
dargurt 2 years ago
mutliclassing? WoW has more races multicalssing doesn't mean Priest/warrior stuff its just in the chaos of the cat races will adapt and learn new paths, and if you sayWoW is taking WAR guild lvling a lot of mmorpg's have had that kind of system before WAR was out you know WAR just had its 1 year anversiray =D grats WAR!!!! i'm a WAR/WoW player swicth games every cupple months.
dargurt 2 years ago
Aion's gonna be better.... Blizzard's gettin desperate, taking ideas from Warhammer online (guild leveling/benefiets) and multiclassing (guild wars), and it seems that they're rushing it. Ever since the old lore writer died the story has been going far downhill, this is World of Warcraft's last stand. If a player is able to kill or even weaken Deathwing I will be THOROUGHLY dissapointed. He's nearly a god slayer.
Kehlvowen 2 years ago
hope deathwing would be a raid for 100 ppl
mumser12 2 years ago
why? that would suck
purpleisthepwnzor 2 years ago
@purpleisthepwnzor its kinda weird ho 20 ppl can kill a dragon that can destroy the whole damn planet...
mumser12 2 years ago
its kinda a hassle to get a 100 person raid. Thats way to many people for the trouble. a 40 man is bad enough
purpleisthepwnzor 2 years ago
@purpleisthepwnzor yes but that would be kind of Imba
mumser12 2 years ago
good luck find a computer that wont lag out hard core to that.
ImAlex123456789 2 years ago
That's an interesting problem. On one side, Deathwing is powerful (still, IMHO he's a dragon with an armour, not a titan or smthn) so he should be hard to take down. But on the other...it's technically imposible to make such a huge group of ppl fight him together. I'm want to see how Blizzard will handle this one.
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
yeah it is
TheonlySRO 2 years ago
is this true?
Rizorn 2 years ago
What exactly?
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
All this stuff about new expansion. Feel like playing again, because of the worgen and be able to fly in Azeroth. Tauren as paladin can't end good tho.. I stopped playing because of wotlk was too easy, but now it looks kind of fun again, but I guess I wont start playing again, because I'm focusing on school atm
Rizorn 2 years ago
All the information was taken from official Blizzard websites and videos (from the BlizzCon panels about the game). So, yes - it's all true ;D
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
undead hunter xD their pets will run off with their bones :P
i was kinda hoping for gnome hunter xD
EmilxLollipop 2 years ago 2
I think I've seen such a comic strip where an Undead Hunt had the problem you mentioned xD But, the situation with Gnomes would be similar - how are they supposed to tame an animal that is (in most cases) bigger than them? They would end up as a snack ;P
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
well im pretty sure goblins can make hunters :) and thay are same size xD btw i don't read WoW comics. that undead hunter thing was just the first thing that came to my head xD
EmilxLollipop 2 years ago
On the official site, in community/comics/2008/May you will find a comic strip by Eiru - there's something about relationships between the Undead and animals ;D
KminekOdRozkminek 2 years ago
okay xD
EmilxLollipop 2 years ago