@sinewriter I'm sure Jazz/Blues had to have come from Classical which was invented by White People. So you technically have them to thank for giving the 'niggers' something to feed off, just like metal has fed off of blues.
@munruthel1 Um, got any history to back up that ludicrous and ethnocentric perception of history? Classical music is older therefore all music came from it, or what?
(or, hopefully, you are referring to "hymns" as "Classical," which is the only part of white music that really influenced the spirituals and worksongs from which the blues were dervied).
@munruthel1 How does that in any way prove that Jazz/blues came from classical?
Again: hymns, yes. Otherwise, you are simply wrong. It just isn't true. You're operating on the viewpoint that all of musical history has a common origin--it doesn't. Do you think music being made in Asia or Africa or Australia prior to the arrival of anyone from Europe magically came from telepathic signals telling them about classical music?
@FangsFirst lol pretty much yeah, since you think I'm so wrong lets see you prove your statement. Music originates off of anything. For instance, Carcass got it's influences from metal. Black sabbath got it's influence from blues and jazz, now tell me, what did blues and jazz get it's influences off of? Cause it sure as hell just didn't come up out of the blue.
Jazz came from the blues. Blues came from spirituals and worksongs, which were the work of slaves who came from Africa, with some measure of influence from hymns. I pretty much already pointed this out.
And not all metal has the same influences. My goodness, your thinking is linear. The original comment was "probably" and I suggested that blues and jazz (not metal, I did not address that one way or the other) did not come from classical music. Barring hymns.
@munruthel1 If you really want to get into music history, we have every place on earth developing some form of music at some point. Classical music was (and remains) the music of the upper classes (with occasional concessions to the middle class). In Europe, the lower classes had folk music (which influenced a lot of Scandinavian metal-ers, by the by, and has no real origins in classical music, either!).
@munruthel1 Eventually, we have the Americas, where we had various forms of folk music develop on a microcosmic level over all of history (as it does and did in most places for all time), as well as a certain degree of European music brought in alongside it. Eventually, slaves 'wrote' (somehow I doubt they bothered to WRITE anything of the music, if they were even allowed to learn to write or read) worksongs and spirituals, which later developed quite naturally into the blues.
@munruthel1 The spirituals and worksongs got their only European influence from hymns and other (vocal, English) paeans to God and Christianity, and little else, because they were not about complicated musical structure, they were about emotional expression (which does not preclude complicated musical ideas, but removes it as a final goal). From the blues, we got jazz and rock and roll, from rock and roll we got heavy metal, from heavy metal we got death metal and grindcore. Clear enough?
@munruthel1 and just to be absolutely clear, again: plenty of rock musicians (Deep Purple's Jon Lord, for instance, or Jeff Lynne of ELO, or etc etc etc...on and on) were influenced by classical music. However, these are branches, and not the branches from which we got the grindcore flavours of metal. Admittedly, by Keep on Rotting, Carcass had left grindcore far, far, behind, but they had not really started taking on classical elements.
Classical simply is not in the branches we're looking at.
@munruthel1 Unfortunately, for reasons of history, it gets the credit. Where classical came into metal was, well... envision it as two separate roads, and after metal was created, classical came back in for some bands. But it's not part of the origin of the genre itself.
In other words: the original statement remains true. Without the blues, there would be no metal. And classical does not enter into that equation. It doesn't matter if this bugs you, it's just the reality of it...
@munruthel1 on a sidenote: you may want to check yourself on jazz. Fusion, post-bop, so on and so forth--nevermind plenty of bop--are NOT simple. And the improvisational aspects are "exclusive" to jazz--they most certainly do not come from the rigid constructions of Classical music (but then, the assumption is that classical music is complicated, which is no more "always" true than it is of any music or genre)
dumb arguments just listen to carcass drink a beer n smoke a blunt. cheers
pandemicdeaths 1 week ago
Great Song! They are gods!
beratta1000 3 weeks ago
1 believer( fan of justin bieber) was see this video , fuck you believer
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eliuthuete 3 months ago
why are ppl getting on the whole racist thing? like stfu and let whites do there thing and let blacks do w.e. it is they do, like getta fuckin life
ThrashinMoshPit666 7 months ago
There is no room for racism in metal , we are all brothers and sisters in metal, so stop that childish talk.
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This is the official music video??
Christyavo 8 months ago
keep on rotting, keep on hoping!!!!!
sallyforthbastards 8 months ago
Needs more cowbell . .. . oh, nevermind
JimmySparx95 9 months ago 12
Nigrus/Nigra/Nigrum is latin for the colour black, not slave.
Necarianus 9 months ago
@Necarianus same shit. and i can say that,. i'm coon
coon421 9 months ago
i love the cowbell
BixuDamonR 9 months ago 2
little do the racists realise that if it wasn't for 'nigger' music: ie: blues/jazz, we probably wouldn't have metal today
sinewriter 9 months ago 27
@sinewriter nigger is slang for Negro which is Latin for slave, we all seem to be enslaved to me though.
AceSSRiley 9 months ago
@AceSSRiley Actually, it's Spanish for "black".
masterofpuppets717 8 months ago
@AceSSRiley servo/serva means slave/servant in Latin. Try again tomorrow.
rstblackorchid 7 months ago
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munruthel1 7 months ago
@sinewriter I'm sure Jazz/Blues had to have come from Classical which was invented by White People. So you technically have them to thank for giving the 'niggers' something to feed off, just like metal has fed off of blues.
munruthel1 7 months ago
@munruthel1 Um, got any history to back up that ludicrous and ethnocentric perception of history? Classical music is older therefore all music came from it, or what?
(or, hopefully, you are referring to "hymns" as "Classical," which is the only part of white music that really influenced the spirituals and worksongs from which the blues were dervied).
Seriously, that's utterly absurd.
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@FangsFirst well let me tell you this, did blues or jazz exist in the year 1000 AD? I don't think so...
munruthel1 5 months ago
@munruthel1 How does that in any way prove that Jazz/blues came from classical?
Again: hymns, yes. Otherwise, you are simply wrong. It just isn't true. You're operating on the viewpoint that all of musical history has a common origin--it doesn't. Do you think music being made in Asia or Africa or Australia prior to the arrival of anyone from Europe magically came from telepathic signals telling them about classical music?
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@FangsFirst lol pretty much yeah, since you think I'm so wrong lets see you prove your statement. Music originates off of anything. For instance, Carcass got it's influences from metal. Black sabbath got it's influence from blues and jazz, now tell me, what did blues and jazz get it's influences off of? Cause it sure as hell just didn't come up out of the blue.
munruthel1 5 months ago
@munruthel1 ...
Jazz came from the blues. Blues came from spirituals and worksongs, which were the work of slaves who came from Africa, with some measure of influence from hymns. I pretty much already pointed this out.
And not all metal has the same influences. My goodness, your thinking is linear. The original comment was "probably" and I suggested that blues and jazz (not metal, I did not address that one way or the other) did not come from classical music. Barring hymns.
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@FangsFirst and in case you didn't notice. Metal also has classical aspects to it, so stop giving blues and jazz all the credit.
munruthel1 5 months ago
@munruthel1 If you really want to get into music history, we have every place on earth developing some form of music at some point. Classical music was (and remains) the music of the upper classes (with occasional concessions to the middle class). In Europe, the lower classes had folk music (which influenced a lot of Scandinavian metal-ers, by the by, and has no real origins in classical music, either!).
[cont'd]
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@munruthel1 Eventually, we have the Americas, where we had various forms of folk music develop on a microcosmic level over all of history (as it does and did in most places for all time), as well as a certain degree of European music brought in alongside it. Eventually, slaves 'wrote' (somehow I doubt they bothered to WRITE anything of the music, if they were even allowed to learn to write or read) worksongs and spirituals, which later developed quite naturally into the blues.
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@munruthel1 The spirituals and worksongs got their only European influence from hymns and other (vocal, English) paeans to God and Christianity, and little else, because they were not about complicated musical structure, they were about emotional expression (which does not preclude complicated musical ideas, but removes it as a final goal). From the blues, we got jazz and rock and roll, from rock and roll we got heavy metal, from heavy metal we got death metal and grindcore. Clear enough?
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@munruthel1 and just to be absolutely clear, again: plenty of rock musicians (Deep Purple's Jon Lord, for instance, or Jeff Lynne of ELO, or etc etc etc...on and on) were influenced by classical music. However, these are branches, and not the branches from which we got the grindcore flavours of metal. Admittedly, by Keep on Rotting, Carcass had left grindcore far, far, behind, but they had not really started taking on classical elements.
Classical simply is not in the branches we're looking at.
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@FangsFirst I don't listen to grindcore or melodic death metal really, I'm into Progressive metal and avant-garde, and djent.
munruthel1 5 months ago
@munruthel1 ....then why are you posting on a video by a band that made grindcore followed by melodic death metal and talking about this? o.O
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@FangsFirst I have my reasons lol, just sick of all the credit going to something as simple as blues and jazz
munruthel1 5 months ago
@munruthel1 Unfortunately, for reasons of history, it gets the credit. Where classical came into metal was, well... envision it as two separate roads, and after metal was created, classical came back in for some bands. But it's not part of the origin of the genre itself.
In other words: the original statement remains true. Without the blues, there would be no metal. And classical does not enter into that equation. It doesn't matter if this bugs you, it's just the reality of it...
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@munruthel1 on a sidenote: you may want to check yourself on jazz. Fusion, post-bop, so on and so forth--nevermind plenty of bop--are NOT simple. And the improvisational aspects are "exclusive" to jazz--they most certainly do not come from the rigid constructions of Classical music (but then, the assumption is that classical music is complicated, which is no more "always" true than it is of any music or genre)
FangsFirst 5 months ago
@sinewriter Racists generally aren't the brightest of the herd. Kind of ironic seeing that so many of them are social darwinists as well.
DrenAgem100 3 months ago
amazing and brutal
adelciorrodrigues 11 months ago 2
walker for president
kapetankapotas 11 months ago
this is not melodic
necromnous 1 year ago
EPIC!!!!
cc32wm 1 year ago
<3 <3 <3
cruel139 3 years ago
no me danso de ver este vdeo,este y el otro qe revienta todo,
WT CARCASS!! \m/
khrysalida 4 years ago
El mejor tema!
Keep on Rotting... but in the real world YOU!!
ROT!! \m/
♠
khrysalida 4 years ago
rot'n'roll carcass rules
enucleation 5 years ago
Carcass wil reunite the next year!!!111
But without Kenny :(
Sux0rzDudes 5 years ago
wake up1! the Carcass is the best!!!
setafrusters 5 years ago
I'm a wuss that likes this more "melodic" Carcass of late.
bikertom98 5 years ago
I miss Carcass. One of my favorites! A reunion would be great! \m/
misfit22r 5 years ago
..and thats a damn GOOD song!!!
asimantos 5 years ago