WIND ENERGY NSM 21 (PROTOTYPE 4)

[smbor2]

How did you get funding to build this inefficent piece of junk! If the magnus effect was actually an efficient way of producing lift/ thrust it would be used on aircraft. Its got more moving parts so more friction plus relies on viscous drag just to spin the cyclinders. Less thrust as it is relying on viscous forces rather than the deflection of air over an aerofoil. I see why 4 years later this thing hasn't gotten anywhere, LOL

[windturbinesinc]

To fully maximize the use of wind turbines, they are best to be placed in an area where there is a sufficient source of wind for the wind turbines to keep on spinning. Having wind turbines on your own can help you save a lot since this device helps you to generate your own electricity for free which is beneficial to all of us.

[berserkertorix]

how much efficiency does it have in comparison with a conventional wind turbine?

[bmecher]

The website shows some rice/sugar farming operation, no clear way to dig down to your info on this. In many places the noise that these make is enough to kill the technology. It would be nice to know the net Kw these generate........

[alberto211393]

looks prety god for me, perhaps we will see them replace the old blade ones, but will there be some kind of barometer to start the motor only when & if ther is enough wind? because that would give it it's independity from human, just like current blade ones.

>>Al<<

[ingolstadli]

only strong wind can turn,!!

[MadHatterTruth]

the link is bad

[PsychoticusRex]

Some small cup-turbines on the end of each cone or a spiral fin down each cone would ensure they're spinning and avoid complicated, weighty and resistive gearing.

[wildblue2]

All turbines are shut down with brakes when the winds are too strong. This design is much safer than a bladed turbine, but probably requires stronger winds...

[dhudson369]

wow that looks dangerous have these been tested in a tornado or hurricane i just had some mad flash in my head like on final destination that it came off in really bad wind and was spinning like a propeller and just slicing through people

[zeekwolfe]

I presume this works on the same principle that makes a curve ball curve. High pressure on the leading edge or arc and low pressure half a circle or 180 degrees opposite.

[whiteskullwhiteskull]

This is a montage

[Azoicum]

pull the plug, dude

[PsychoticusRex]

which one was better, the cylindrical or the conical magnus effect turbine? Is it true they can't pass through the zero mph state without manual assistance to restart?

[TheRealDj2quick]

yup, that is true.

[kdkinen]

how the hell does it work? just round props?

[RockingMinors]

this ones better

[aeroscope]

Magnus Effect!!!

[Demaga]

do you know how does this wind turbine avoid excesive spining at high wind speeds?

electronic brake in the main axis maybe?

thank you!

[netoways]

this machine must brew some good beer...

[klmccp]

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pedrofuenzalida2@hotmail......­estare muy agradecido chao y gracias

[klmccp]

disculpen ... qien me explica como gira eso??

[klmccp]

como rayos gira eso?

[bishoplpc77]

they used ball berrings!!!!!!!! cooooollll!

[ZoopRusty]

I see a lot of lack of info on these comments.

1)There is no blades, just cylinders

2)The cylinders are spinning on their own axis and on the main axis of the 3 cylinders

3)It's possible to keep the main axis spinning through the Magnus Effect

4)This type of aero-generator needs very less wind to keep spinning then the normal blades type, thus is far more efficient

5)It needs to be started by a motor

What's the Magnus effect? Do some reseach! Get some real info on how it works before judging.

[PsychoticusRex]

@ZoopRusty Magnus effect can be started by initiators on the columns(/cones in this case) the Japanese are getting good results from thread on their columns. Others have been using cup turbines (Like you see on wind speed odometers on boats.) on the tips of the columns to start the Magnus effect. For certain initiators one must give preferential spin with a in-hub ratchet or veins on the tips to ensure windmill is unidirectional for power generation purposes.

[mookixox]

for 1) it look like a day of heavy winds...which isnt too often. 2) the helix design is much more efficient. 3) for the amount of material involved the electricity gained seems negligible.

[Asheun]

Design of a crackpot huh? I am willing to bet that this design is able to spin faster than its bladed counterpart. The blades on this design will not flex at high speeds. Why because thay are rounded and will hold their shape far better. I say kudos to you and keep up the good work and science. See not all of us Americans are so narrow minded.

[gootyam]

Would it be possible for your next test run to paint some markings on the moving parts?

I would love to see how things move more clearly.

[robertpmc]

My own feelings on America are unknown to you. So once again my point is proven. You didn't even understand the statement and you're off on one! Thanks for proving the point. Oh and yes, I want the science too - not the unschooled negativity

[robertpmc]

CroakerMD, What on earth do you mean "similar prejudice" ? I have no such prejudice, just sick of negativity from the bigoted of the world - I say that because people condemn things out of hand and many, if not most on youtube, hail from the States. In anyones language that is bigotry and gives America a bad name.

[robertpmc]

No wonder America gets a bad name in the rest of the world. Galilei had the same problem in Europe all those years ago. "This has to be the design of some crackpot" is the statement of a narrow mind.

I, for one admire the effort and innovation and hope it works well. We need the "crackpots" of this world who try to light a better way. We already have far too many bigots in the dark.

[CroakerMD]

And then you condemn yourself out of your own mouth with a similiar predjudice, "no wonder America"

Blah blah blah. How about some science?

[robertpmc]

All you negative commentators make me smile. You all condemn what you nothing of and decide it's no good !! Such bigoted belligerence.

[jizzmonger]

It looks like flaps open and close on the ends of the 3 "blades".

It looks it wastes a lot of surface area.

This has to be the design of some crackpot

[boxa888]

hhaha i said the same thing !

[bellaggio1770]

I am concerned about the noise it produces, people already get angry form the noise of conventional turbines.

[josephdupont]

i DOUBT IT IS SELF STARTING.

BUT IT COULD BE INFLATABLE

[jollivier]

How about some numbers? Some comparison of its performance to that of conventional technology? What is the advantage of it? It would definitely cost more to build and maintain for a given rotor diameter. How does this turbine have anything to do with the magnus balloon turbine? This turbine doesn't have flaps catching the wind - its blades generate lift the same way a golf ball does (using Bernoulli's principle).

[lichtundliebe999]

@all: This device has Flettner rotors which use the Magnus effect. That means, it needs an external source of energy to drive the rotors (=loss of efficiency). Using this kind of "blades", you have a higher lift than normal blades, but the drag is also increased.

[lolcat23]

i thought it only needed a kick start from a stand still, and from that you would then continue to generate power. so if its more efficient 98% of the time by, wouldnt that make it more efficient?

question though, would these turbines be better as large or small turbines? Im thinking smaller because of the additional spinning of the tubes would be hard at very large sizes(?)

[TheStupified]

yeah

[ZKMX7]

Does it work by the "magnus effect" do the cone shaped blades revolve? Its not very well explained.

[TheStupified]

You do know that "NSM" is a white supremisist organization right?

[bonzonobeans]

Contrary to what you know or believe, the rest of the world does not necessarily care about petty american racial groups. There is a lot more to this world than the usa, you should finish that burger, get up, and have a look.

[TheStupified]

Okay, i am just saying that maybe NSM is not the best name for it, people may get the wrong idea. Just think about something being called the KKK 866 solar generator.

[remusaku]

You put a lot of effort in it. What do you think is the biggest advantage of this system. Just grain product commercials?

[harpersteven]

could you explain what i am seeing??

[OrganicDrew]

very awesome I would like to hear more theory's on the topic

[Caleb6543]

I like the idea because you should be able to regulate the speed of the turbine in a high wind by adjusting the speed of the drums. But it does seem more cumbersome than just going with traditional sails. What would happen if the diameter of the drums were larger near the center and smaller near the tips? You've got some beautiful windmills, keep it up.

[closetpunk2006]

Why the abrupt changes in rpm? Wind can't make instantaneous changes like that as far as I know.

[lolcat23]

what? then you better get out of the closet(PUN!!!!). youve never experienced gusts of wind?

[closetpunk2006]

Haha, yeah, I guess so - Even with gusts I didn't think it would speed up and slow down so quickly, but maybe it does.

[BallinMafia]

Looks some kind of crazy mad scientist gizmo from the days of the early attempts at Flying machines. I like it!

[SenorStrange]

But is it more efficient than blades?

[remusaku]

No. The big end of the "blades" means that there are big tip vortices that cost a lot of energy. In theory you could probably make them just as efficient as normal airfoils, I'm not sure.

[consona]

Where can I read more about this ?

[mehmetogluenergy]

These conic cylinders are working with the socalled Magnus Effect.

By giving some inferior energy, the cylinders are rotating in their own axis. With the help of the wind force the cylinders are causing the so called Magnus Effect. This means that the wind resistance decreases and the cylinders are turning faster and giving a high energy output.