@lsdktd Did you know there is no actual historical account of the dead christs' supposed resurrection? That all copies of the bible for four hundred years were lacking it? And that that story was added to an anonymous authors story around 400 AD? And that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John did not write the bible? Those were anonymous books, later given names to make it more convincing. Research the bibles of that age if you're in doubt of the truth.
@SwissGuard100 Remember this, Christianity is not just facts; there is still logic. Don't find yourself continually fighting on the defense as no battle has ever been won from behind a pillbox. The Bible says the Kingdom suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. Stop dodging the sword; God has armed us with the tools we need to overcome such evil. We can overcome! Use the mind God has given you! I will give you an example.
I beseech you to take this assault not as a setback, but a test. I challenge you: if you truly believe in the Bible and know that His Word is perfect and that He also is perfect, then do not argue with those who speak ignorantly. Rather, take what they say, study the subject, find His truth, and be strengthened. For example, studying the virgin Mary and what the Bible means by evil and murder. By the power of Jesus Christ that is in you and me, we have authority to turn the situation around.
(Part 1/3) Continue to spread your faith, but do not cast your pearls before swine. This arguing on Youtube with unknown persons of atheistic belief will not cause them to believe, as it is their opposite goal to remove you from the faith. Two, please do recognize when the Red Herrings appear in the basket. TheDagonjones, for example, here first argued that there was no God. Then, upon realizing he'd been defeated, proceeded to argue as if there was a God. This tells me
(Part 2/3) many things, but one thing stands out. As we know, atheism is not set in stone. The success of atheism depends on the success of said "atheists" to derail Christians from the faith by taking scripture out of context and using faulty human logic. For example, saying God's judgment is unfair is an attempt to judge God using our flawed human logic. However, we cannot understand His ways and that which He does for a reason is often misinterpreted by nonbelievers as immoral rage. But this
(Part 3/3) is among the many "reasons" used by atheists. Think about what a dirty trick that is. They will say there is no God one moment to try to prove one point, then say there is God the next moment to prove the other. Nonsense. Again my brothers and sisters, have faith in the Lord. Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. We can share the love of Jesus Christ, even over the internetz, without arguing with those whose only goal is not to meet Christ, but to tear us away.
@thedagonjones I believe that the test was more for Abraham's benefit than anything else. God was demonstrating to him that trust and obediance would not go unrewarded. Isaac did not come to harm, and God provided a ram to be sacrificed instead.
@thedagonjones What are you talking about? The Bible doesn't say how old Mary was, and she submitted herself to His will: "Behold, the Handmaid of the Lord, be it done unto thee according thy word." And if you recollect, it was the fallen angels who introduced evil into the world, not God. Both humans and the angels were given free will to choose good or evil, and some chose evil. It's hardly God's fault.
I'm a Pentacostal and I believe in the Big Bang. God said let there be light: BANG! There was light! I believe in intelligent design and that God organized our bodies, complete with pumping heart, eyes and all--things like that don't just happen on there own at random. Otherwise, you might see eyes in a whole lot of places! Besides that, the alignment of the planets being just perfect for human life is far beyond coincidence. And even more, God has given me so much joy. No, you can't have it.
@thedagonjones First, God Bless you for being interested in the Word of God, because God Loves you. But like a Pre-K student cannot understand College study, so can a carnal minded man understand the spiritual things of God. Gen22 Never tells Abraham to Kill but to OFFER as, or just like a burnt offering. But that's not even the point of what God was doing, simply get Abraham to Love him more than his son. God offered his son, carnal minds killed him. Spiritual minds resurrects.him. John 3.
And believing in heaven makes people weak minded? Youre delusional cause the vast majority of career oriented people are religious whether their doctors, nurses, lawyers,etc. You cant prove that fact wrong. And for the record, everyone has a religion. Atheism is a relgion itself despite denial. If somebody wants to believe in heaven, then thats their business. Your the dam idiot going around searching numerous christian videos posting nonsense. Youre accomplishing absolutely nothing!!
yeah lol , good people go to heaven and the bad ones go to hell. so i'm going to hell because im so bad, but because hitler believed in god, he is in heaven? lol...
@obamasucksdick99 actually its about being saved and believing. Despite what you did, you can still ask God to save you. If Hitler asked God to save him before he died, (which I of course have no knowledge of) he can go to heaven too.
@SwissPremium92 so hitler could be potentially be sitting in heaven and because i was not convinced that an omnipitant sky daddy was the creator of everything and jesus was the son of god i wont go to heaven? even if i live a normal life and dont hurt anyone? thats fucked up and i hope you dont actually believe that...
@obamasucksdick99 Im not going to argue with you. Im just going to pray. But I will say this. The bible is right and God's grace is sweet and despite what we may have done, we can all be saved and go to heaven. The choice is yours.
@obamasucksdick99 No, Hitler wouldn't get a place in Heaven. God said, 'Thou Shalt not kill".According to Catholic Theology, if you do evil things, it doesn't matter if you call yourself a Christian; You're going to hell.
@SwissGuard100 so It is forbidden to kill unless you do it in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets? and hitler may not be in heaven but he also might be in heaven however we dont know or cant judge that but its not a 50/50? bollucks.
@obamasucksdick99 More silly rhetoric based on misconceptions of Christianity. I never said that Hitler might be heaven. I said that to even get to PURGATORY, he would've had to go to the Pope, admit the Holocaust was wrong and then undergo penances on earth--- and we can be reasonably sure that this did not take place.
@SwissGuard100 so everyone who kills someone has to go to the pope or they spend eternity in purgatory? sounds nice, i'm sure our soldiers would like to hear that. you and your christian beliefs are so silly anyways, you think that 5million+ different species of animals could fit on a ship that was built in just one hundred years. and that doesn't even begin to take apart that fucking moronic story. anyone who says they believe in the bible hasn't read it or is fucking retarded
@obamasucksdick99 As I already explained, muttonhead, warfighting for a just cause is considered an honorable undertaking. Only people who kill non-combtants must go to the Pope absolution and penance. And I personally belive that the great flood, like much of the Bible, is simply symbolic, and that the "Ark" most likely represents the prehistoric supercontinent, Pangea.
@SwissGuard100 hey faggot, so what if god thinks hitler was fighting for a just cause. how do you know god doesnt fucking love hitler? who are you to say that your magical flying sky daddy doesnt agree with hitler? god (in the bibles description) is a maniacal spree killing FUCKTARD. i bet they get along. there are soldiers who have killed non combatants, they didnt mean to, but they did it. so are those soldiers going to hell? thats diabolical.
@obamasucksdick99 Once again, all you do is spout misconceptions and nonsense. Everything Hitler did went against the teachings of Christ. (Thou shalt not kill, love thy neighbor, ect.) And obviously, a soldier who ACCIDENTLY kills a civilian is not going to hell--just someone who does it on purpose, like Hitler. And you damn well know that's what I meant.
@SwissGuard100 Everything US soldiers do goes against the teachings of Christ. (Thou shalt not kill, love thy neighbor, ect.) [ get the sarcasm? what you said doesnt prove anything, or make any valid points.]. and by the way, i am not aware of hitler ever killing anyone, he just sent out the orders. so technically, he should be sitting up there with his maniacal hench-brother god, and some nazi soldiers bastards are in limbo. (see how crazy this sounds?)
@obamasucksdick99 AS I SAID, warfighting for a just cause is considered honorable. Purposely killing civilians is not. And Hitler is just as guilty for the Holocaust as the Nazi henchmen who actually performed the killings. Since Hitler ordered the killings, he is morally responsible for them, and will be punished for them accordingly.
@SwissGuard100 i quote you exactly-"Only people who kill noncombtants must go to the Pope absolution and penance."you suggest that ALL the nazi soldiers would have to go apologize to the pope.which is ridiculous.not to mention,god might have thought it was a just cause,you dont know that it wasnt,and i like how you avoid this. you pretend to know what god wants and doesnt want."god"was killing non combatants when he "metaphorically" flooded the earth according to you but thats ok!
@obamasucksdick99 No. If Hitler alone apologized and did penance for his crimes, then Hitler alone would be forgiven. What the rest of the Nazis did or didn't do would have no effect on Hitler's case, and vice versa. And I know that the Christian God wouldn't consider the Nazis a 'just cause' because whereas Christianity teaches brotherhood among men and decries unecessary killing, Nazism embraces hatred and murder as a means to its ends. (And besides, Jesus was a Jew.)
@obamasucksdick99 I personally believe that the Great Flood was what killed off the majority of the nonsentient hominds. IMO that God was clearing away Evolutionary rivals to the human race. The ancestors of the human race, symbolized by Noah's family, were gathered onto a landmass (symbolized by the Ark) to one day evolve into the modern human race, while the less evolved, nonsentient hominds were killed off. You see, the Bible must not be taken literally; much of it is parabalic.
@SwissGuard100 its nice to see a different version of how things play out. it never ceases to amaze me how many different ways christians explain how they interpret the bible. everything is a metaphor that cannot be taken literally, and you disobey so many things the bible says, like men cannot have long hair but when it comes to being gay all of the sudden the bible is absolutely taken literally. also, jesus is actually aqua man!
@obamasucksdick99 The whole long-hair thing was a Jewish rule. I'm a Gentile. And the verses pertaining to homosexuality are rather clear; there is little room of interpretation there I'm afraid.
@SwissGuard100 what about Leviticus 19:28(no tattoos)?or some of the other stupid bible rules- Leviticus 19:19(no mixed fabrics),Leviticus 19:27(you have to grow a beard), Deuteronomy 25:11-12(cut off a womans hand for ballocking),Ephesians 5:4 (no cussing),Leviticus 20:27(stoning adulterers,witches and a bunch of other things) why do you not follow those rules but still hold on to that rule that says you cant be gay? seems more like a hate than "clear interpretation of the bible"
@obamasucksdick99 Old Testament. These are Jewish rules that were displaced by the coming of Jesus Christ. There are however rules in the New Testament forbidding homosexuality and adultery. It doesn't say we have to stone them or hate them, it essentially just says DON'T DO IT. In fact, when Jesus came across a group of men stoning an adulterer, He famously said: "let He who is without sin cast the first stone." The religous extremists departed ashamed.
@obamasucksdick99 This is hardly suprising, though. In ancient times it was common for history to be preserved in the form of poems and ballads; hence, the Books of the Bible pertaining to mankind's early days make heavy use of the parable, metaphor, and alliteration. Conversley, books dealing with law and regulations(such as those forbidding homosexuality) more or less mean what they say.
@SwissGuard100 and i'll ask you this next question, my favorite for christians. what makes your religion the right one? why is it that it seems reasonable to suggest that 5/7th of the people on earth are going to hell? there are so many other religions and deities that you could believe in, an infinite amount; so what makes you so darn sure that your god is the right one?
@obamasucksdick99 Well, you can sort of narrow it down a bit. Polytheism is out, because multiple Supreme Beings each with a mind of its own could hardly produce the single, harmonious cycle of life, death, and Evolution we see in the natural world. Hence, Monotheism is the way to go, IMO. I've read the Qur'an, and it seemed to be all over the board.Tolerance in one verse, hatred in the next. Judaism more or less subscribed to the brutal tribalism of the old Testament.
@obamasucksdick99 And as for your assertion that 5/7 of the human race ends up in Hell, the Catachism of the Catholic Church quotes the Bible as saying "God desires all men to be saved" and another verse which further states that "through Him, all things are possible."
@SwissGuard100 wheres your proof that polytheism couldnt be a possibility? and what does it have to do with me? i said there is an infinite amount of conceivable gods, that humans could worship, doesnt mean you have to believe in any or all of em. i'm glad you see the stupid shit thats in the qur'an. and in response to your new testament stuff, they get rid of all the ridiculous rules but not gays and adulterers because that certainly isnt a silly rule either right? lol.
@obamasucksdick99 I subscribe to the Socratian School of thought when it comes to polytheism. If there were multiple Supreme Beings independant of one another, how could they produce an ordered universe? Unless the personalties, intentions, and behavior of these deities were completely identical, they'd be working at cross-purposes with one another, with each one influencing the universe to its own preferences.
@obamasucksdick99 It's not actually. Adultery creates distrust, jealousy and emnity among families---in a word makes them dysfunctional---and homosexuality was seen as a perversion of what sex was intended for. Likewise, heterosexual sex outside of marriage was forbidden for the same reason. If you want to understand at least part of the rationale behind these rules, look at pictures of STD sufferers.
@SwissGuard100 yeah,i'll give you that.adultery isnt a good thing. but it happens because they dont get satisfaction from the other partner,so nobody is more to blame then the one who is being adultered :) but its still deceitful and your right.homosex is just a result of a genetic malfunction and it is a deviation but that doesnt mean you should dislike people for that. nice job not responding at all to what i said about adam and eve, i was interested in seeing what you would say
@obamasucksdick99 I DID reply actually. I said that Adam and Eve were no two people, but rather, many generations of people, and perhaps several stages of human development. The word 'Eve' has long meant "before," or "the night before." So literally, what "Eve" may represent is our ancestors on the eve of the human race---that is, before the human race. Granted, many Christians would disagree with my Evolutionist interpretation of the Bible, but I think it's only rational.
@obamasucksdick99 Touche. But I might just as easily accuse you of being corrupted by junk science and doctrinaire anti-religonism. I'm afraid we'll just have to civilly disagree on this, as it's apparent that neither of us can win the other over.
@SwissGuard100 junk science? whats that, give me an example. and damn fucking right i'm anti-religion. i think its a part of the past and there is a rapid increase of atheists now that we have more and more knowledge and we can answer some of the harder questions.
Steady State Theory, for instance. This is basically the belief that our whole complex universe 'just so happens' to be here for absolutely no reason at all. All of this is just here. No origin, no explanation, nothing. Reality just happens to be. Planets, Galaxies, stars, gravity, the laws of physics---everything is just in place for no reason. Our cycle of life, death and Evolution just arose for no reason or purpose, and reality is ultimately pointless.
@obamasucksdick99 Actually, atheism is on the decline in much of the world---especially places where State Atheist regimes have held power. In Maoist China, religon was once brutally suppressed, and Atheism was openly embraced and enforced by the Government---which ultimately killed 65 million people in a vain effort to keep control of the country. Understandably, most present-day Chinese are not especially enamored of atheism, and religous people are now the majority in China.
@SwissGuard100 i dont care about sand niggers or whatever,its increasing in america, a first world country and it hasnt been on the decline. do you know how ridiculous that sounds by the way?there are 65 million deaths and you think that because the government did not endorse the worship of a magical sky daddy, that is the reason?its not like he did it to stay in power. and i could easily say the same thing, hitler (a believer) started a world war much more deadly than mao zedong.
@obamasucksdick99 I never said that the Chinese Government comitted it's atrocities because it was atheist---simply that it killed people who weren't. And Mao wasn't the only State Athiest to do that sort of thing. Josef Stalin killed 20 Million of his own people. The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia killed 2 million. North Korea, 2 million; Vietnamese Communists, 1 million. I could go on and on.
@SwissGuard100 you say "Atheism was openly embraced and enforced by the Government---which ultimately killed 65 million people" and then you go on to tell me that you didnt mean that? and just because someone is an atheist doesnt mean thats the reason they kill people, that makes no sense. dahmer was an atheist (i think,not sure) but that doesnt mean he killed people because he was an atheist. he killed people because he was a sick fuck! the same principle as mao zedong
@obamasucksdick99 Let's start from the begining. When I said "which ultimately killed 65 million people," I was refering to the Government itself---not its philosophical beliefs. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
@SwissGuard100 well ok then, i guess that makes sense. but it still doesnt make much of a difference. dahmer was an atheist but does that mean he killed people because he didnt believe in god? no. plenty of people who kill others believe in god so it doesnt make much of a difference, and you can apply it to a larger scale. soviet russia, china, or nazi germany. it doesnt matter that germans believed in god and that the german soldiers belt buckles said god with us.
@SwissGuard100 if you agree that it doesnt matter what a state mandates or doesnt mandate concerning religion.why did you bring it up?where did zedong fit into this conversation?now,the steady state theory.i didnt even know about it until now.but it sounds like an interesting thing,and its not the only other evidence that is different than the big bang theory.theres things like the string theory and i'm sure others.science always trys to find inconsistencies and other explanations
@obamasucksdick99 I was illustrating an example of a place where atheism is in decline---while also providing the reason for the decline, the brutality of Mao's regime. The opposite is also true--where there are brutal religous regimes, atheism is likely to grow in response.
@SwissGuard100 well if it was declining (statistics from reliable source plz). it was declining because people where in a bad situation and having a magical sky daddy to look over them is a comforting thing. they tell themselves that everything will be alright because my sky daddy loves me. and i dont know that what your saying is true, atheism flourishes in religous regimes, i'd like an example (hint: nazi germany wont work because people DID THE OPPOSITE!)
@obamasucksdick99 According to wikipedia, "While there are more atheists than ever before, polls show that atheism's percentages seem to be declining."
And I find this whole 'sky daddy' line atheists use amusing. It would seem to indicate an inability to disprove the concept of God, which they attempt to mask by ridiculing said concept. And I would use Turkey as an example of a formerly religous society turning secular, albeit not a religous regime turning secular.
@SwissGuard100 wiki, yeah! real good source for concrete facts. of course i cant disprove god, but that doesnt mean much. you cant disprove that i dont have a 100 foot invisible snake outside my room. you cant disprove that santa doesnt exist so therefore it is silly to criticize it (according to your logic).i dont know much about turkey, but i dont think they are a brutal totalitarian regime. czech republic is fine and they are the more secular there than in any other part of EU
@obamasucksdick99 I don't object to your criticizing the concept of a God---but I do object your absurdifying that concept as an 'invisble sky daddy.' I've seen Creationists dismiss Evolution too many times by saying, "You think your grandmother was a monkey!" not to object to your similarly absurdifying Theism. Refering to God as a "sky daddy" doesn't disprove His/Her/It's existence, and it frankly just makes the person who does it look immature and petty.
@SwissGuard100 well you see, when a creationist says something like that, its because they are idiots. there is no other scientific evidence that contradicts evolution. its a scientific fact and theory. when i say magical sky daddy, i'm basing it on the truth, what more is the christian god than a flying sky daddy? is that not somewhat an accurate description of what it is? your upset because its a demeaning description of god and you know it and it pokes fun at your beliefs.
@obamasucksdick99 I am not upset in the least. You are welcome to mock Christianity as much as you like. But when discussing philosophy, I've always found it practical to be a pragmatist rather than a clown. You'll notice that I have not mocked your atheist beliefs, though I believe them to be wrong---mocking opposing viewpoints is unenlightening and really doesn't advance the discussion. I am willing to hear your arguments against the God's existence, but don't waste my time mocking the idea.
@SwissGuard100 well are we done? we kinda stopped arguing about the alleged christian god. seems to be more focused on me laughing at you and you telling me nicely that i'm a douche bag.
@obamasucksdick99 Ok, to advance the discussion: I believe that the existence of the universe itself is proof that a Supernatural Entity exists. The universe began when time and matter made the inexplicable shift from 'not existing' to 'existing.' In one way or another, all of the atheist explanations for this event have time and matter accomplishing this themselves----in defiance of the laws of physics,' which state that to overcome inertia a force must be applied.
@SwissGuard100 cool idea, but there is no scientific peer reviewed literature that is remotely close to what you just described. if thats what you believe, then i cant touch you! but i can tell you that i think the universe may or may not have began. it may as well have always been here. or maybe its just beyond our understanding, for now. we can try to understand the universe or we can shut all the doors and give ourselves simple answers - god dun it. end of story.
@obamasucksdick99 Actually, it's a basic of physics; to overcome inertia, a force is required. Hence, time and matter could not have formed themselves. And for me, using science to learn about the natural world and universe is itself a sacred pursuit. I never accept 'God dun it'---I wish to know how He 'dun it'. What natural forces were employed in what way to form the universe. I don't who's 'closing all the doors,' but its neither me nor any Christian I know.
@obamasucksdick99 You said, "it (the universe) may as well have always been here."
Now personally, that particular theory really does strike me as 'closing the doors' of science. "The Universe has always just been there, end of story, no explanation!" If the answer we're searching for is "there is no answer, the universe just happens to be there!" then it really makes Science rather a moot cause, doesn't it? Searching for an answer that doesn't really exist.
@SwissGuard100 well, sure your right. but thats if i say the universe has always been there no more discussion. its just one of the possibilities. but if you look at the theory of the big bang it supports the universe being around 13 billion years old. so anyway... i cannot disprove that if there was a god (and there isnt) that he did everything you just said, but then again, you cant prove that that is true. if anyone really knew the answer then i'm sure we'd all hear about it
@obamasucksdick99 Sure. Though my main problem with the Big Bang Theory is that the supercondensed Universe that purportedly exploded of its own accord---once again, in violation of that same law of physics. Ultimately, I suppose there to be a God because if the universe has a begining, (which I believe it must) then a starting force caused it to overcome inertia. Since it evidently existed before time and matter, it must be a timeless, nonmaterial force.
@obamasucksdick99 I also have several rationalist problems with the "Steady State Theory'. From what we can observe in the physical universe, all things have a cause and an effect. A mountain is the effect of the movement of the Earth's tetonic plates; a planet is the effect of gravity pulling gas or debris to itself.You can't have an effect without a cause, or a cause without an effect.The Steady State Theory proposes that the universe itself is an effect without a cause-- a rational conundrum
@SwissGuard100 well i cant think of anything that doesnt really have a cause and effect. but maybe you should try looking at it in a different perspective, maybe we cant comprehend these things just yet, but we're getting closer. the cause and effect of the universe, if it even has one could be totally arbitrary. and the steady state theory is a peer reviewed carefully scrutinized work of science. i dont think it is right to dismiss it because you dont see a cause and effect
@obamasucksdick99 I don't dismiss it out of hand of course, but I will say it's looking rather grim for the Steady State Theory. Physical objects are all bound by the same laws---so if cause and effect applies to such physical objects such as mountains and planets, how can we say that that the Physical Universe itself is exempt from these same laws? (there's a reason why the Big Bang is the prevailing theory. )
@SwissGuard100 well i really dont know anything about the steady state theory, and to be honest i really dont know shit about science, but i greatly appreciate everything science has done for us. my guess would be that you might also not understand what they mean. until you get a degree in the field and you read the whole theory and look at the evidence your opinion wont hold much weight. it doesnt matter what us peasants think ^-^
@obamasucksdick99 I have indeed read the whole of these theories, and I think they are mistaken. I try to be a 'freethinker'---I examine the evidence and draw my own conclusions; I refuse to let either clergymen or scientists tell me what to think.
@SwissGuard100 i really dont know what to tell you about that, i have no knowledge of the theory and i have no education in science. and i think its important to realize that in science you have to let other scientists tell you what to think, you will never get anywhere as a scientist if your work is not peer reviewed and approved by other scientists, if they dont like it they send it back to you and tell you what they dont like.
@obamasucksdick99 All said and done, I don't care if anyone agrees with me or not. My stated beliefs are simply the conclusions that I have come to personally---no one else is obliged to believe them. Whether or not someone agrees with my views is of the utmost irrelevance to me.
@SwissGuard100 ok then :) but your views are based on an assumption that a god, not just any god but your god, your christian god is watching over you. you think that your right, but there will always be tons of other religions with people who think the same. there are hundreds of religions, just because 2/7ths of the world buys into it doesnt make it any more probable than any other religion. the most probable answer is that there just is no god
@obamasucksdick99 How is it more probable that there is no god? What provided the force required for time and matter to overcome inertia and become coherent, if not a timeless, non-material force that existed before time and matter? I don't simply assume there to be a god, it is a conclusion I come to from my observations of reality. Once established that there probably is a god, it is then a simple matter of comparing teachings and striving to pick the most rational one.
@SwissGuard100 there either is a god or there is not a god. with the knowledge we have, it is 50/50. now whats the chance that that if there was a god that it would be your god and not some other god. so you split it into hundreds of other possibilities and your chances are pretty small, and thats being more than fair because there could be an infinite amount of different gods. and what makes your god more rational than any other god? so not choosing a god (50%) is most likely
@Moonchalice its more like, its a 50% chance gods not there and a 50% he is but then its infinatily improbable to be the right faith. and even then, god probably wouldnt give two shits about you. and what i really dislike about religious people is they think god will answer their prayers and to me it is selfish, because why would god care about them when they already have so many nice things but not do anything for the people in uganda
@obamasucksdick99 According to the Marion apparitions of Catholicism, we are not assured happness in this life, only in the next. And As I told you earlier---I compare teachings and religous ideas in order to find the right one; sp for me, anyway, it's not less than a 50/50 chance because I have ruled out other teachings; I couldn't find any other that could be interpreted in a way that made sense.
@obamasucksdick99 As I said, you can narrow it down a bit. Ruling out polytheism as we did earlier leaves the monotheistic religons---Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. From there, a simple comparison of doctrine should make the truth relatively evident.
@SwissGuard100 so your saying that everyone elses religion doesnt make sense but yours does? that seems a bit close minded and bigoted. and i dont mean polytheism you dont understand me. what i am saying is i could believe in a flying drake who eats cheese potatos and he lives in my backyard and it has JUST as much evidence as christianity. and i could make up and infinate amount of these gods so disprove my gods or your god has infinitly .0000000000000000000001 chance of existing
@obamasucksdick99 I find that nobody elses religon makes sense to ME personally. And likewise, there is just as little evidence supporting the Big Bang or Steady State Theory as Christianity---so by your logic we all might as well believe in the cheese eating drake, as all ideas concerning the origins of the universe are purely theoretical.
@SwissGuard100 ok dude, a cheese eating drake has just as much scientific validation and chance of existing as a christian god. there is alot of evidence for the big bang. its not easy for something to become a scientific theory, you got to have evidence for something to be a theory. and i'd like to hear about this evidence for christianity, because there is none. and dont say stuff like the bible, that doesnt prove anything other than that bronze age goat herders can scribble
@SwissGuard100 and yes, according to the bible if you dont believe in jesus and god you burn in hell. it wouldnt matter that god would like all people in heaven the facts are that only 2/7ths of the world is christian. you have a choice, you accept jesus as your savior or you BURN IN HELL. the first commandment says you MUST believe in ONLY the god described by the bible. do you accept evolution swissgaurd100?
@obamasucksdick99 It actually says that at the end of time ALL men will be judged for their deeds, rather than their religon. All of the Christians and non-Christians condemned to hell and purgatory will be raised and judged on the good or evil they did in their lives. And yes, I do believe Evolution. The Catholic Church states that Evolution may indeed be true, and that this is in no way in conflict with our teachings. As I said, Catholics are not bound to interpret the Bible literally.
@SwissGuard100 that doesnt dismiss that tons of people are rotting in hell because they didnt believe in a god.so whats the purpose of adam and eve? whats their purpose and how are you going to metaphorically explain them?they are useless if evolution is true. if evolution played out like we think it did then we evolved from primates. if we evolved from primates there is no adam and eve, no adam and eve no original sin, no original sin no point in repenting sins or being christian
@obamasucksdick99 It might actually. If God judges that their deeds were good, it could. And I personally believe that Adam and Eve were no two people, but rather, many generations of people, and perhaps several stages of human development. After humanity reached sentience, sin was introduced to the human race by fallen members of a previously created race of spirits, the angels. By disobediantly accepting the knowledge of good and evil, humans made themselves responsible for their actions.
@SwissPremium92 ahem... no knowledge of hitler asking gods forgiving and being religious? well i got news for you. In his book Mein Kampf Hitler made numerous religious pronouncements. Hitler gave no indication of being an atheist or agnostic or of believing in only a remote, rationalist divinity, he referred continually to a providential, active deity. he believed in god. all the nazi soldiers had a belt buckle that said "gott mit uns" on it (god with us).
@obamasucksdick99 No the bible says that even satan and his demons believe and tremble. You must be born again (as religious as that sounds) but it’s the truth. Believing there is a God doesn’t save you anymore than standing in the middle of the street and believing you won't get hit will save you from getting hit.
@jehill1000 thats not my point, according to you christians, someone like hitler (who was a catholic and VERY religious) is in heaven and i'm going to hell, just beause i am not convinced theres a magic sky daddy?
@obamasucksdick99 Yes i know that is your point. And my point is just because Hilter claimed to be Christian dosen't mean he went to heaven no more that me claming to be a car makes me a car. Obviiously his actions proved otherwise. There are going to be many people that claim to be Christian, go to hell. Although good works alone don't get you into Heaven they do show proof of your faith. Faith without works is dead.
@jehill1000 thats a terrible analogy, its a fact that your not a car. and no, i dont "know" that he is in heaven and it doesnt exist anyway, but you seem to think it does so i'll try to explain why your vile belief is so misconstrued. in your mind you give a monster, hitler the potential to be in heaven. heaven is just a blanket for weak minded people to hide behind because they cant accept that you only get a few decades in this wonderful universe and thats all you will ever have.
@obamasucksdick99 Hitler claimed to be catholic which is not the same a christain. If you hate religion so much, then why are you taking the time to search for preacher videos? lmao Doesnt seem right. Its one thing to be non relgious, but its another to be non religious and bash relgion like a sport. The majority of people who bash religion are hurt individuals. Dont like, dont watch. Go back to watching dawkins. Same guy who says its possible for aliens to exists but no GOD.
@realdeal119 catholic is a denomination of christianity. i stumbled across this video, you sometimes get completely unrelated videos in your search. your close minded to say its not possible for aliens to exist. the universe is a big place, and we exist, so its very likely that there could be life somewhere else. i cant see how you would think something exists with no evidence or proof but completely rule out the possibility of other forms of life
@obamasucksdick99 Christianity and Catholicism are not the same. Period!! Catholicism also involves worshipping graven images in which Christianity restricts. The romans are the ones who supposedly crucified Christ so how are they christian? Oh theirs a possibility for aliens you claim but there's no possibly for a higher being? lol you're contradicting yourself. Whats the diff between a higher being(GOD) and highly intelligent creatures with supernatural capabilities(aliens)?
@realdeal119 fact- catholicism is a denomination of christianity. did i say that if aliens existed the would have supernatural capabilities? please quote me on this so i can look at where i said that. otherwise, i dont have time for a bullshit strawman argument.
@realdeal119 I'm a Catholic,and I most denfitetly am a Christian! The Romans who Crucified our Lord were pagans. The pagan Romans also fed Catholics to the lions and crucified them. And no, we don't worship our statues, they're just there to remind us of Holy things.
@obamasucksdick99 You poor lost soul. Satan has clouded your mind so bad that you actually believe that he isn't real....and you call me weak minded....There will be no mercy for the damned....i sure hope you're not wrong.
@obamasucksdick99 Okay the simple fact that you misunderstood my analogy about the car makes me believe that you're not a genius. And you put all your trust in your own mind...wow and i'm weak minded.....thats funny. oh well whatever.
@obamasucksdick99 It's not a 50/50 chance. To even get a chance to go to purgatory, Hitler would've had to go to the Pope himself, confess the Holocaust was wrong, and undergo severe penances on earth. (Catholicism has specific rules concerning mass murderers.) And Catholics are not Sola Scriptura: we don't not hold the Bible as the only moral authority, and we don't believe that it must be taken literally
@obamasucksdick99 Hitler wasn't a very good Catholic then. Heck, during World War II, the Pope risked his life to save Jewish people from the Nazis, and even hid them in his house! Which is more than can be said for the Atheist dictator Joseph Stalin, who killed nearly twice as many people as Hitler.
God preserves his children. This man don't have a wrinkle on his face he looks great for his age. He preaches the straight up Gospel too, I bethca no agenda's just the straight up word of God. God is so awesome.
@30markman For good ideas try wisdomcommonsorg, ' The reason driven life' by Robert M. Price ; which is his reply to Rick Warren's ' Purpose driven life '. Tentmaker777 on youtube, also philosopher Daniel Dennett. It is good to look at the whole argument- all the reasons for and all the reasons against. Life is more interesting that way and you maybe end up with a more balanced mature perspective
HOW WONDERFUL IS THINE NAME!
GOD BLESS YOU.
the1lique 3 weeks ago
He looks good and youthful to be 107..... God is good all the time. Bless him
ebony78 1 month ago 4
@ebony78 and not to mention, such a strong voice!!!
Snowhill3 4 weeks ago
Wow, he looks great.
Sassymarkrep 1 month ago
God is an awesome God,
lsdktd 1 month ago 4
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@lsdktd Did you know there is no actual historical account of the dead christs' supposed resurrection? That all copies of the bible for four hundred years were lacking it? And that that story was added to an anonymous authors story around 400 AD? And that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John did not write the bible? Those were anonymous books, later given names to make it more convincing. Research the bibles of that age if you're in doubt of the truth.
AMpufnstuf 3 weeks ago
@thedagonjones As I said, the Bible doesn't say how old Mary was, and she submitted herself to His will.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 Remember this, Christianity is not just facts; there is still logic. Don't find yourself continually fighting on the defense as no battle has ever been won from behind a pillbox. The Bible says the Kingdom suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. Stop dodging the sword; God has armed us with the tools we need to overcome such evil. We can overcome! Use the mind God has given you! I will give you an example.
Poopymanner 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 The example mentioned below:
A breakdown of tdj's post by sentence:
1. A generic statement.
2. Faulty assumption that the divine impregnation of Mary had to be physical. He does miracles, does He not?
3. How could God's activity spawn from hell if He is in heaven? The contradictions in that sentence alone are innumerable.
4. Ad-lib for the faulty assumption made in 2.
5. The truest comment in the paragraph.
6. Concluding with the faulty assumption made in 2.
Stay blessed! :)
Poopymanner 2 months ago
Again, to my brothers and sisters in Christ :)
Poopymanner 2 months ago
I beseech you to take this assault not as a setback, but a test. I challenge you: if you truly believe in the Bible and know that His Word is perfect and that He also is perfect, then do not argue with those who speak ignorantly. Rather, take what they say, study the subject, find His truth, and be strengthened. For example, studying the virgin Mary and what the Bible means by evil and murder. By the power of Jesus Christ that is in you and me, we have authority to turn the situation around.
Poopymanner 2 months ago
To my Christian brothers and sisters, (3 Parts)
Poopymanner 2 months ago
(Part 1/3) Continue to spread your faith, but do not cast your pearls before swine. This arguing on Youtube with unknown persons of atheistic belief will not cause them to believe, as it is their opposite goal to remove you from the faith. Two, please do recognize when the Red Herrings appear in the basket. TheDagonjones, for example, here first argued that there was no God. Then, upon realizing he'd been defeated, proceeded to argue as if there was a God. This tells me
Poopymanner 2 months ago
(Part 2/3) many things, but one thing stands out. As we know, atheism is not set in stone. The success of atheism depends on the success of said "atheists" to derail Christians from the faith by taking scripture out of context and using faulty human logic. For example, saying God's judgment is unfair is an attempt to judge God using our flawed human logic. However, we cannot understand His ways and that which He does for a reason is often misinterpreted by nonbelievers as immoral rage. But this
Poopymanner 2 months ago
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(Part 3/3) is among the many "reasons" used by atheists. Think about what a dirty trick that is. They will say there is no God one moment to try to prove one point, then say there is God the next moment to prove the other. Nonsense. Again my brothers and sisters, have faith in the Lord. Greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. We can share the love of Jesus Christ, even over the internetz, without arguing with those whose only goal is not to meet Christ, but to tear us away.
Poopymanner 2 months ago
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@thedagonjones I believe that the test was more for Abraham's benefit than anything else. God was demonstrating to him that trust and obediance would not go unrewarded. Isaac did not come to harm, and God provided a ram to be sacrificed instead.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@thedagonjones What are you talking about? The Bible doesn't say how old Mary was, and she submitted herself to His will: "Behold, the Handmaid of the Lord, be it done unto thee according thy word." And if you recollect, it was the fallen angels who introduced evil into the world, not God. Both humans and the angels were given free will to choose good or evil, and some chose evil. It's hardly God's fault.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
I'm a Pentacostal and I believe in the Big Bang. God said let there be light: BANG! There was light! I believe in intelligent design and that God organized our bodies, complete with pumping heart, eyes and all--things like that don't just happen on there own at random. Otherwise, you might see eyes in a whole lot of places! Besides that, the alignment of the planets being just perfect for human life is far beyond coincidence. And even more, God has given me so much joy. No, you can't have it.
Poopymanner 2 months ago
@thedagonjones If you recollect, God stopped Abraham's hand so no harm would come to Isaac. The Almighty had no intention of allowing Isaac to die.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@thedagonjones First, God Bless you for being interested in the Word of God, because God Loves you. But like a Pre-K student cannot understand College study, so can a carnal minded man understand the spiritual things of God. Gen22 Never tells Abraham to Kill but to OFFER as, or just like a burnt offering. But that's not even the point of what God was doing, simply get Abraham to Love him more than his son. God offered his son, carnal minds killed him. Spiritual minds resurrects.him. John 3.
thegoodmanSean 2 months ago
god bless him. may the lord be with u! <3
Methdecal 2 months ago
107 years old and his skin is still very smooth! God you are very kind to your people.
GraceTruthTeacher 2 months ago
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SwissGuard100 2 months ago
And believing in heaven makes people weak minded? Youre delusional cause the vast majority of career oriented people are religious whether their doctors, nurses, lawyers,etc. You cant prove that fact wrong. And for the record, everyone has a religion. Atheism is a relgion itself despite denial. If somebody wants to believe in heaven, then thats their business. Your the dam idiot going around searching numerous christian videos posting nonsense. Youre accomplishing absolutely nothing!!
realdeal119 2 months ago
yeah lol , good people go to heaven and the bad ones go to hell. so i'm going to hell because im so bad, but because hitler believed in god, he is in heaven? lol...
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 actually its about being saved and believing. Despite what you did, you can still ask God to save you. If Hitler asked God to save him before he died, (which I of course have no knowledge of) he can go to heaven too.
SwissPremium92 2 months ago
@SwissPremium92 so hitler could be potentially be sitting in heaven and because i was not convinced that an omnipitant sky daddy was the creator of everything and jesus was the son of god i wont go to heaven? even if i live a normal life and dont hurt anyone? thats fucked up and i hope you dont actually believe that...
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Im not going to argue with you. Im just going to pray. But I will say this. The bible is right and God's grace is sweet and despite what we may have done, we can all be saved and go to heaven. The choice is yours.
SwissPremium92 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 No, Hitler wouldn't get a place in Heaven. God said, 'Thou Shalt not kill".According to Catholic Theology, if you do evil things, it doesn't matter if you call yourself a Christian; You're going to hell.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 so It is forbidden to kill unless you do it in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets? and hitler may not be in heaven but he also might be in heaven however we dont know or cant judge that but its not a 50/50? bollucks.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 More silly rhetoric based on misconceptions of Christianity. I never said that Hitler might be heaven. I said that to even get to PURGATORY, he would've had to go to the Pope, admit the Holocaust was wrong and then undergo penances on earth--- and we can be reasonably sure that this did not take place.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 so everyone who kills someone has to go to the pope or they spend eternity in purgatory? sounds nice, i'm sure our soldiers would like to hear that. you and your christian beliefs are so silly anyways, you think that 5million+ different species of animals could fit on a ship that was built in just one hundred years. and that doesn't even begin to take apart that fucking moronic story. anyone who says they believe in the bible hasn't read it or is fucking retarded
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 As I already explained, muttonhead, warfighting for a just cause is considered an honorable undertaking. Only people who kill non-combtants must go to the Pope absolution and penance. And I personally belive that the great flood, like much of the Bible, is simply symbolic, and that the "Ark" most likely represents the prehistoric supercontinent, Pangea.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 hey faggot, so what if god thinks hitler was fighting for a just cause. how do you know god doesnt fucking love hitler? who are you to say that your magical flying sky daddy doesnt agree with hitler? god (in the bibles description) is a maniacal spree killing FUCKTARD. i bet they get along. there are soldiers who have killed non combatants, they didnt mean to, but they did it. so are those soldiers going to hell? thats diabolical.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Once again, all you do is spout misconceptions and nonsense. Everything Hitler did went against the teachings of Christ. (Thou shalt not kill, love thy neighbor, ect.) And obviously, a soldier who ACCIDENTLY kills a civilian is not going to hell--just someone who does it on purpose, like Hitler. And you damn well know that's what I meant.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 Everything US soldiers do goes against the teachings of Christ. (Thou shalt not kill, love thy neighbor, ect.) [ get the sarcasm? what you said doesnt prove anything, or make any valid points.]. and by the way, i am not aware of hitler ever killing anyone, he just sent out the orders. so technically, he should be sitting up there with his maniacal hench-brother god, and some nazi soldiers bastards are in limbo. (see how crazy this sounds?)
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 AS I SAID, warfighting for a just cause is considered honorable. Purposely killing civilians is not. And Hitler is just as guilty for the Holocaust as the Nazi henchmen who actually performed the killings. Since Hitler ordered the killings, he is morally responsible for them, and will be punished for them accordingly.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 i quote you exactly-"Only people who kill noncombtants must go to the Pope absolution and penance."you suggest that ALL the nazi soldiers would have to go apologize to the pope.which is ridiculous.not to mention,god might have thought it was a just cause,you dont know that it wasnt,and i like how you avoid this. you pretend to know what god wants and doesnt want."god"was killing non combatants when he "metaphorically" flooded the earth according to you but thats ok!
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 No. If Hitler alone apologized and did penance for his crimes, then Hitler alone would be forgiven. What the rest of the Nazis did or didn't do would have no effect on Hitler's case, and vice versa. And I know that the Christian God wouldn't consider the Nazis a 'just cause' because whereas Christianity teaches brotherhood among men and decries unecessary killing, Nazism embraces hatred and murder as a means to its ends. (And besides, Jesus was a Jew.)
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I personally believe that the Great Flood was what killed off the majority of the nonsentient hominds. IMO that God was clearing away Evolutionary rivals to the human race. The ancestors of the human race, symbolized by Noah's family, were gathered onto a landmass (symbolized by the Ark) to one day evolve into the modern human race, while the less evolved, nonsentient hominds were killed off. You see, the Bible must not be taken literally; much of it is parabalic.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 its nice to see a different version of how things play out. it never ceases to amaze me how many different ways christians explain how they interpret the bible. everything is a metaphor that cannot be taken literally, and you disobey so many things the bible says, like men cannot have long hair but when it comes to being gay all of the sudden the bible is absolutely taken literally. also, jesus is actually aqua man!
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 The whole long-hair thing was a Jewish rule. I'm a Gentile. And the verses pertaining to homosexuality are rather clear; there is little room of interpretation there I'm afraid.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 what about Leviticus 19:28(no tattoos)?or some of the other stupid bible rules- Leviticus 19:19(no mixed fabrics),Leviticus 19:27(you have to grow a beard), Deuteronomy 25:11-12(cut off a womans hand for ballocking),Ephesians 5:4 (no cussing),Leviticus 20:27(stoning adulterers,witches and a bunch of other things) why do you not follow those rules but still hold on to that rule that says you cant be gay? seems more like a hate than "clear interpretation of the bible"
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Old Testament. These are Jewish rules that were displaced by the coming of Jesus Christ. There are however rules in the New Testament forbidding homosexuality and adultery. It doesn't say we have to stone them or hate them, it essentially just says DON'T DO IT. In fact, when Jesus came across a group of men stoning an adulterer, He famously said: "let He who is without sin cast the first stone." The religous extremists departed ashamed.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 This is hardly suprising, though. In ancient times it was common for history to be preserved in the form of poems and ballads; hence, the Books of the Bible pertaining to mankind's early days make heavy use of the parable, metaphor, and alliteration. Conversley, books dealing with law and regulations(such as those forbidding homosexuality) more or less mean what they say.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 and i'll ask you this next question, my favorite for christians. what makes your religion the right one? why is it that it seems reasonable to suggest that 5/7th of the people on earth are going to hell? there are so many other religions and deities that you could believe in, an infinite amount; so what makes you so darn sure that your god is the right one?
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Well, you can sort of narrow it down a bit. Polytheism is out, because multiple Supreme Beings each with a mind of its own could hardly produce the single, harmonious cycle of life, death, and Evolution we see in the natural world. Hence, Monotheism is the way to go, IMO. I've read the Qur'an, and it seemed to be all over the board.Tolerance in one verse, hatred in the next. Judaism more or less subscribed to the brutal tribalism of the old Testament.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 And as for your assertion that 5/7 of the human race ends up in Hell, the Catachism of the Catholic Church quotes the Bible as saying "God desires all men to be saved" and another verse which further states that "through Him, all things are possible."
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 wheres your proof that polytheism couldnt be a possibility? and what does it have to do with me? i said there is an infinite amount of conceivable gods, that humans could worship, doesnt mean you have to believe in any or all of em. i'm glad you see the stupid shit thats in the qur'an. and in response to your new testament stuff, they get rid of all the ridiculous rules but not gays and adulterers because that certainly isnt a silly rule either right? lol.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I subscribe to the Socratian School of thought when it comes to polytheism. If there were multiple Supreme Beings independant of one another, how could they produce an ordered universe? Unless the personalties, intentions, and behavior of these deities were completely identical, they'd be working at cross-purposes with one another, with each one influencing the universe to its own preferences.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 It's not actually. Adultery creates distrust, jealousy and emnity among families---in a word makes them dysfunctional---and homosexuality was seen as a perversion of what sex was intended for. Likewise, heterosexual sex outside of marriage was forbidden for the same reason. If you want to understand at least part of the rationale behind these rules, look at pictures of STD sufferers.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 yeah,i'll give you that.adultery isnt a good thing. but it happens because they dont get satisfaction from the other partner,so nobody is more to blame then the one who is being adultered :) but its still deceitful and your right.homosex is just a result of a genetic malfunction and it is a deviation but that doesnt mean you should dislike people for that. nice job not responding at all to what i said about adam and eve, i was interested in seeing what you would say
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
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@obamasucksdick99 I DID reply actually. I said that Adam and Eve were no two people, but rather, many generations of people, and perhaps several stages of human development. The word 'Eve' has long meant "before," or "the night before." So literally, what "Eve" may represent is our ancestors on the eve of the human race---that is, before the human race. Granted, many Christians would disagree with my Evolutionist interpretation of the Bible, but I think it's only rational.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 its so sad, you seem like a reasonable bright person but your mind has been corrupted by dogma and religious superstition
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Touche. But I might just as easily accuse you of being corrupted by junk science and doctrinaire anti-religonism. I'm afraid we'll just have to civilly disagree on this, as it's apparent that neither of us can win the other over.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 junk science? whats that, give me an example. and damn fucking right i'm anti-religion. i think its a part of the past and there is a rapid increase of atheists now that we have more and more knowledge and we can answer some of the harder questions.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99
Steady State Theory, for instance. This is basically the belief that our whole complex universe 'just so happens' to be here for absolutely no reason at all. All of this is just here. No origin, no explanation, nothing. Reality just happens to be. Planets, Galaxies, stars, gravity, the laws of physics---everything is just in place for no reason. Our cycle of life, death and Evolution just arose for no reason or purpose, and reality is ultimately pointless.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Actually, atheism is on the decline in much of the world---especially places where State Atheist regimes have held power. In Maoist China, religon was once brutally suppressed, and Atheism was openly embraced and enforced by the Government---which ultimately killed 65 million people in a vain effort to keep control of the country. Understandably, most present-day Chinese are not especially enamored of atheism, and religous people are now the majority in China.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 i dont care about sand niggers or whatever,its increasing in america, a first world country and it hasnt been on the decline. do you know how ridiculous that sounds by the way?there are 65 million deaths and you think that because the government did not endorse the worship of a magical sky daddy, that is the reason?its not like he did it to stay in power. and i could easily say the same thing, hitler (a believer) started a world war much more deadly than mao zedong.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I never said that the Chinese Government comitted it's atrocities because it was atheist---simply that it killed people who weren't. And Mao wasn't the only State Athiest to do that sort of thing. Josef Stalin killed 20 Million of his own people. The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia killed 2 million. North Korea, 2 million; Vietnamese Communists, 1 million. I could go on and on.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 you say "Atheism was openly embraced and enforced by the Government---which ultimately killed 65 million people" and then you go on to tell me that you didnt mean that? and just because someone is an atheist doesnt mean thats the reason they kill people, that makes no sense. dahmer was an atheist (i think,not sure) but that doesnt mean he killed people because he was an atheist. he killed people because he was a sick fuck! the same principle as mao zedong
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Let's start from the begining. When I said "which ultimately killed 65 million people," I was refering to the Government itself---not its philosophical beliefs. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 well ok then, i guess that makes sense. but it still doesnt make much of a difference. dahmer was an atheist but does that mean he killed people because he didnt believe in god? no. plenty of people who kill others believe in god so it doesnt make much of a difference, and you can apply it to a larger scale. soviet russia, china, or nazi germany. it doesnt matter that germans believed in god and that the german soldiers belt buckles said god with us.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Of course. Anyway, what do you think of the 'Steady State Theory'? I was curious as to how you would respond.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 if you agree that it doesnt matter what a state mandates or doesnt mandate concerning religion.why did you bring it up?where did zedong fit into this conversation?now,the steady state theory.i didnt even know about it until now.but it sounds like an interesting thing,and its not the only other evidence that is different than the big bang theory.theres things like the string theory and i'm sure others.science always trys to find inconsistencies and other explanations
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I was illustrating an example of a place where atheism is in decline---while also providing the reason for the decline, the brutality of Mao's regime. The opposite is also true--where there are brutal religous regimes, atheism is likely to grow in response.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 well if it was declining (statistics from reliable source plz). it was declining because people where in a bad situation and having a magical sky daddy to look over them is a comforting thing. they tell themselves that everything will be alright because my sky daddy loves me. and i dont know that what your saying is true, atheism flourishes in religous regimes, i'd like an example (hint: nazi germany wont work because people DID THE OPPOSITE!)
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 According to wikipedia, "While there are more atheists than ever before, polls show that atheism's percentages seem to be declining."
And I find this whole 'sky daddy' line atheists use amusing. It would seem to indicate an inability to disprove the concept of God, which they attempt to mask by ridiculing said concept. And I would use Turkey as an example of a formerly religous society turning secular, albeit not a religous regime turning secular.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 wiki, yeah! real good source for concrete facts. of course i cant disprove god, but that doesnt mean much. you cant disprove that i dont have a 100 foot invisible snake outside my room. you cant disprove that santa doesnt exist so therefore it is silly to criticize it (according to your logic).i dont know much about turkey, but i dont think they are a brutal totalitarian regime. czech republic is fine and they are the more secular there than in any other part of EU
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I don't object to your criticizing the concept of a God---but I do object your absurdifying that concept as an 'invisble sky daddy.' I've seen Creationists dismiss Evolution too many times by saying, "You think your grandmother was a monkey!" not to object to your similarly absurdifying Theism. Refering to God as a "sky daddy" doesn't disprove His/Her/It's existence, and it frankly just makes the person who does it look immature and petty.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 well you see, when a creationist says something like that, its because they are idiots. there is no other scientific evidence that contradicts evolution. its a scientific fact and theory. when i say magical sky daddy, i'm basing it on the truth, what more is the christian god than a flying sky daddy? is that not somewhat an accurate description of what it is? your upset because its a demeaning description of god and you know it and it pokes fun at your beliefs.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I am not upset in the least. You are welcome to mock Christianity as much as you like. But when discussing philosophy, I've always found it practical to be a pragmatist rather than a clown. You'll notice that I have not mocked your atheist beliefs, though I believe them to be wrong---mocking opposing viewpoints is unenlightening and really doesn't advance the discussion. I am willing to hear your arguments against the God's existence, but don't waste my time mocking the idea.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 well are we done? we kinda stopped arguing about the alleged christian god. seems to be more focused on me laughing at you and you telling me nicely that i'm a douche bag.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Ok, to advance the discussion: I believe that the existence of the universe itself is proof that a Supernatural Entity exists. The universe began when time and matter made the inexplicable shift from 'not existing' to 'existing.' In one way or another, all of the atheist explanations for this event have time and matter accomplishing this themselves----in defiance of the laws of physics,' which state that to overcome inertia a force must be applied.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 cool idea, but there is no scientific peer reviewed literature that is remotely close to what you just described. if thats what you believe, then i cant touch you! but i can tell you that i think the universe may or may not have began. it may as well have always been here. or maybe its just beyond our understanding, for now. we can try to understand the universe or we can shut all the doors and give ourselves simple answers - god dun it. end of story.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Actually, it's a basic of physics; to overcome inertia, a force is required. Hence, time and matter could not have formed themselves. And for me, using science to learn about the natural world and universe is itself a sacred pursuit. I never accept 'God dun it'---I wish to know how He 'dun it'. What natural forces were employed in what way to form the universe. I don't who's 'closing all the doors,' but its neither me nor any Christian I know.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 You said, "it (the universe) may as well have always been here."
Now personally, that particular theory really does strike me as 'closing the doors' of science. "The Universe has always just been there, end of story, no explanation!" If the answer we're searching for is "there is no answer, the universe just happens to be there!" then it really makes Science rather a moot cause, doesn't it? Searching for an answer that doesn't really exist.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 well, sure your right. but thats if i say the universe has always been there no more discussion. its just one of the possibilities. but if you look at the theory of the big bang it supports the universe being around 13 billion years old. so anyway... i cannot disprove that if there was a god (and there isnt) that he did everything you just said, but then again, you cant prove that that is true. if anyone really knew the answer then i'm sure we'd all hear about it
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Sure. Though my main problem with the Big Bang Theory is that the supercondensed Universe that purportedly exploded of its own accord---once again, in violation of that same law of physics. Ultimately, I suppose there to be a God because if the universe has a begining, (which I believe it must) then a starting force caused it to overcome inertia. Since it evidently existed before time and matter, it must be a timeless, nonmaterial force.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I also have several rationalist problems with the "Steady State Theory'. From what we can observe in the physical universe, all things have a cause and an effect. A mountain is the effect of the movement of the Earth's tetonic plates; a planet is the effect of gravity pulling gas or debris to itself.You can't have an effect without a cause, or a cause without an effect.The Steady State Theory proposes that the universe itself is an effect without a cause-- a rational conundrum
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 well i cant think of anything that doesnt really have a cause and effect. but maybe you should try looking at it in a different perspective, maybe we cant comprehend these things just yet, but we're getting closer. the cause and effect of the universe, if it even has one could be totally arbitrary. and the steady state theory is a peer reviewed carefully scrutinized work of science. i dont think it is right to dismiss it because you dont see a cause and effect
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I don't dismiss it out of hand of course, but I will say it's looking rather grim for the Steady State Theory. Physical objects are all bound by the same laws---so if cause and effect applies to such physical objects such as mountains and planets, how can we say that that the Physical Universe itself is exempt from these same laws? (there's a reason why the Big Bang is the prevailing theory. )
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 well i really dont know anything about the steady state theory, and to be honest i really dont know shit about science, but i greatly appreciate everything science has done for us. my guess would be that you might also not understand what they mean. until you get a degree in the field and you read the whole theory and look at the evidence your opinion wont hold much weight. it doesnt matter what us peasants think ^-^
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I have indeed read the whole of these theories, and I think they are mistaken. I try to be a 'freethinker'---I examine the evidence and draw my own conclusions; I refuse to let either clergymen or scientists tell me what to think.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 i really dont know what to tell you about that, i have no knowledge of the theory and i have no education in science. and i think its important to realize that in science you have to let other scientists tell you what to think, you will never get anywhere as a scientist if your work is not peer reviewed and approved by other scientists, if they dont like it they send it back to you and tell you what they dont like.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 All said and done, I don't care if anyone agrees with me or not. My stated beliefs are simply the conclusions that I have come to personally---no one else is obliged to believe them. Whether or not someone agrees with my views is of the utmost irrelevance to me.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 ok then :) but your views are based on an assumption that a god, not just any god but your god, your christian god is watching over you. you think that your right, but there will always be tons of other religions with people who think the same. there are hundreds of religions, just because 2/7ths of the world buys into it doesnt make it any more probable than any other religion. the most probable answer is that there just is no god
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 How is it more probable that there is no god? What provided the force required for time and matter to overcome inertia and become coherent, if not a timeless, non-material force that existed before time and matter? I don't simply assume there to be a god, it is a conclusion I come to from my observations of reality. Once established that there probably is a god, it is then a simple matter of comparing teachings and striving to pick the most rational one.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 there either is a god or there is not a god. with the knowledge we have, it is 50/50. now whats the chance that that if there was a god that it would be your god and not some other god. so you split it into hundreds of other possibilities and your chances are pretty small, and thats being more than fair because there could be an infinite amount of different gods. and what makes your god more rational than any other god? so not choosing a god (50%) is most likely
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 You are right on. I'd like to believe, but I've never been sure. And, Damn, I'd hate to be wrong =). We're all bozoes on this bus.
Moonchalice 2 months ago
@Moonchalice its more like, its a 50% chance gods not there and a 50% he is but then its infinatily improbable to be the right faith. and even then, god probably wouldnt give two shits about you. and what i really dislike about religious people is they think god will answer their prayers and to me it is selfish, because why would god care about them when they already have so many nice things but not do anything for the people in uganda
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 According to the Marion apparitions of Catholicism, we are not assured happness in this life, only in the next. And As I told you earlier---I compare teachings and religous ideas in order to find the right one; sp for me, anyway, it's not less than a 50/50 chance because I have ruled out other teachings; I couldn't find any other that could be interpreted in a way that made sense.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 As I said, you can narrow it down a bit. Ruling out polytheism as we did earlier leaves the monotheistic religons---Islam, Judaism, and Christianity. From there, a simple comparison of doctrine should make the truth relatively evident.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 so your saying that everyone elses religion doesnt make sense but yours does? that seems a bit close minded and bigoted. and i dont mean polytheism you dont understand me. what i am saying is i could believe in a flying drake who eats cheese potatos and he lives in my backyard and it has JUST as much evidence as christianity. and i could make up and infinate amount of these gods so disprove my gods or your god has infinitly .0000000000000000000001 chance of existing
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 I find that nobody elses religon makes sense to ME personally. And likewise, there is just as little evidence supporting the Big Bang or Steady State Theory as Christianity---so by your logic we all might as well believe in the cheese eating drake, as all ideas concerning the origins of the universe are purely theoretical.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 ok dude, a cheese eating drake has just as much scientific validation and chance of existing as a christian god. there is alot of evidence for the big bang. its not easy for something to become a scientific theory, you got to have evidence for something to be a theory. and i'd like to hear about this evidence for christianity, because there is none. and dont say stuff like the bible, that doesnt prove anything other than that bronze age goat herders can scribble
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 well of course there is some ideas about how old our universe is though, 12-14 billion.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 and yes, according to the bible if you dont believe in jesus and god you burn in hell. it wouldnt matter that god would like all people in heaven the facts are that only 2/7ths of the world is christian. you have a choice, you accept jesus as your savior or you BURN IN HELL. the first commandment says you MUST believe in ONLY the god described by the bible. do you accept evolution swissgaurd100?
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 It actually says that at the end of time ALL men will be judged for their deeds, rather than their religon. All of the Christians and non-Christians condemned to hell and purgatory will be raised and judged on the good or evil they did in their lives. And yes, I do believe Evolution. The Catholic Church states that Evolution may indeed be true, and that this is in no way in conflict with our teachings. As I said, Catholics are not bound to interpret the Bible literally.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissGuard100 that doesnt dismiss that tons of people are rotting in hell because they didnt believe in a god.so whats the purpose of adam and eve? whats their purpose and how are you going to metaphorically explain them?they are useless if evolution is true. if evolution played out like we think it did then we evolved from primates. if we evolved from primates there is no adam and eve, no adam and eve no original sin, no original sin no point in repenting sins or being christian
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 It might actually. If God judges that their deeds were good, it could. And I personally believe that Adam and Eve were no two people, but rather, many generations of people, and perhaps several stages of human development. After humanity reached sentience, sin was introduced to the human race by fallen members of a previously created race of spirits, the angels. By disobediantly accepting the knowledge of good and evil, humans made themselves responsible for their actions.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@SwissPremium92 ahem... no knowledge of hitler asking gods forgiving and being religious? well i got news for you. In his book Mein Kampf Hitler made numerous religious pronouncements. Hitler gave no indication of being an atheist or agnostic or of believing in only a remote, rationalist divinity, he referred continually to a providential, active deity. he believed in god. all the nazi soldiers had a belt buckle that said "gott mit uns" on it (god with us).
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 No the bible says that even satan and his demons believe and tremble. You must be born again (as religious as that sounds) but it’s the truth. Believing there is a God doesn’t save you anymore than standing in the middle of the street and believing you won't get hit will save you from getting hit.
jehill1000 2 months ago
@jehill1000 thats not my point, according to you christians, someone like hitler (who was a catholic and VERY religious) is in heaven and i'm going to hell, just beause i am not convinced theres a magic sky daddy?
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Yes i know that is your point. And my point is just because Hilter claimed to be Christian dosen't mean he went to heaven no more that me claming to be a car makes me a car. Obviiously his actions proved otherwise. There are going to be many people that claim to be Christian, go to hell. Although good works alone don't get you into Heaven they do show proof of your faith. Faith without works is dead.
jehill1000 2 months ago
@jehill1000 thats a terrible analogy, its a fact that your not a car. and no, i dont "know" that he is in heaven and it doesnt exist anyway, but you seem to think it does so i'll try to explain why your vile belief is so misconstrued. in your mind you give a monster, hitler the potential to be in heaven. heaven is just a blanket for weak minded people to hide behind because they cant accept that you only get a few decades in this wonderful universe and thats all you will ever have.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Hitler claimed to be catholic which is not the same a christain. If you hate religion so much, then why are you taking the time to search for preacher videos? lmao Doesnt seem right. Its one thing to be non relgious, but its another to be non religious and bash relgion like a sport. The majority of people who bash religion are hurt individuals. Dont like, dont watch. Go back to watching dawkins. Same guy who says its possible for aliens to exists but no GOD.
realdeal119 2 months ago
@realdeal119 catholic is a denomination of christianity. i stumbled across this video, you sometimes get completely unrelated videos in your search. your close minded to say its not possible for aliens to exist. the universe is a big place, and we exist, so its very likely that there could be life somewhere else. i cant see how you would think something exists with no evidence or proof but completely rule out the possibility of other forms of life
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Christianity and Catholicism are not the same. Period!! Catholicism also involves worshipping graven images in which Christianity restricts. The romans are the ones who supposedly crucified Christ so how are they christian? Oh theirs a possibility for aliens you claim but there's no possibly for a higher being? lol you're contradicting yourself. Whats the diff between a higher being(GOD) and highly intelligent creatures with supernatural capabilities(aliens)?
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obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
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@realdeal119 fact- catholicism is a denomination of christianity. did i say that if aliens existed the would have supernatural capabilities? please quote me on this so i can look at where i said that. otherwise, i dont have time for a bullshit strawman argument.
obamasucksdick99 2 months ago
@realdeal119 I'm a Catholic,and I most denfitetly am a Christian! The Romans who Crucified our Lord were pagans. The pagan Romans also fed Catholics to the lions and crucified them. And no, we don't worship our statues, they're just there to remind us of Holy things.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 You poor lost soul. Satan has clouded your mind so bad that you actually believe that he isn't real....and you call me weak minded....There will be no mercy for the damned....i sure hope you're not wrong.
jehill1000 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Okay the simple fact that you misunderstood my analogy about the car makes me believe that you're not a genius. And you put all your trust in your own mind...wow and i'm weak minded.....thats funny. oh well whatever.
jehill1000 2 months ago
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@obamasucksdick99 It's not a 50/50 chance. To even get a chance to go to purgatory, Hitler would've had to go to the Pope himself, confess the Holocaust was wrong, and undergo severe penances on earth. (Catholicism has specific rules concerning mass murderers.) And Catholics are not Sola Scriptura: we don't not hold the Bible as the only moral authority, and we don't believe that it must be taken literally
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
@obamasucksdick99 Hitler wasn't a very good Catholic then. Heck, during World War II, the Pope risked his life to save Jewish people from the Nazis, and even hid them in his house! Which is more than can be said for the Atheist dictator Joseph Stalin, who killed nearly twice as many people as Hitler.
SwissGuard100 2 months ago
so he mustve have great great grand kids LOL
gaysamoanguy 3 months ago
Wow bless your heart man of God! Keep on holding on! You are blessed by the best!
rocco19901 3 months ago
Wow. He looks fabulous.
MusicEclecticArt 3 months ago
Praise the Lord, God is awesome!
sataye 3 months ago
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bishopdukerobert 3 months ago
He looks remarkably young for 107. Impressive.
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pacbiggiecom 3 months ago
OMG!! WOW HE IS TRUELY BLESSED!!!
Theking0943 3 months ago
God preserves his children. This man don't have a wrinkle on his face he looks great for his age. He preaches the straight up Gospel too, I bethca no agenda's just the straight up word of God. God is so awesome.
30markman 3 months ago 2
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@30markman For good ideas try wisdomcommonsorg, ' The reason driven life' by Robert M. Price ; which is his reply to Rick Warren's ' Purpose driven life '. Tentmaker777 on youtube, also philosopher Daniel Dennett. It is good to look at the whole argument- all the reasons for and all the reasons against. Life is more interesting that way and you maybe end up with a more balanced mature perspective
zytigon 3 months ago
This man looks 67, not 107! What a blessing! God is GOOD!!!
Success2gether 3 months ago
OMG THIS IS SUCH A BLESSING
bfflmadbarbie 3 months ago
Wait a min. My grandfather is the pastor of this church St. John Missionary Baptist church in Inkster...My dad and uncles are in the pulpit.....
alphaape1 3 months ago
Everyday he is preaching.
rigolith 4 months ago
my god bless his heart.....thats truely a blessing to live to 107...even more since its 2011....and he still preaching....bless ya bishop
luvthelordnclarksis 4 months ago
Odd there are only a handful of people at the church.
If I heard there was a 107-year-old who was still able
to stand up & preach I'd drive all day to go hear him,
especially if he's a holy roller!
GooglFascists 5 months ago 15
@GooglFascists you seem like the type of person that pick on holly rollers
30markman 3 months ago
YES LORD!!! THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!
pocketdrummer84 5 months ago
Wow
Midnite316 5 months ago
He's been hoardin' the holy water XD
AtTheSpeedOfCheese 11 months ago 2
WOW
MINISTERCOBEY 11 months ago