the church comes into conflict with the basic desires for love and human relationship, only because you don't properly understand the psychological stuff that led to you "realizing you were gay." and no one ever does until let themselves have the time to think out how they got there. Usually its impossible without professional help, but being gay is a choice in that a) no one is born that way, they develop into it. b) with the right help, change can happen, its happened before
@PCEggo Honestly that isn't how it works. When you are first born, you don't have a sexual preference until you get to a point where you understand sexuality. The innocence of a child stops the thinking of loving a man or a woman because that is not how a child thinks. There two young to know what they want. It's not until a little before puberty when the hormones really start to work. And either by genetic makeup of influences you are pushed to liking a sex. con.
When sexual attraction finally clicks in and the gland in your brain gives you sexual desires. That is when you realize you are either strait or gay. And many people don't come out at this age, because many suppress there feelings due to fear or denial. I stayed in a relationship with the opposite sex for 3 years because i was scared of what my body was feeling. And because i was a christian,. I couldn't be gay, i simply couldn't, my parents would disown me, i would be talked about. But i am.
@PCEggo No, actually. I realized I was sexually attracted to women when I hit puberty, which is when everyone's body realizes who they're sexually attracted to. The reason you develop into it is exactly the same way that people develop into being straight. Change does NOT happen, and those who say they do are lying. I think I read about 98% of "ex-gays" go back to being gay because they're sick of lying.
@PCEggo You choose who you have sex with, but you do not choose who you are sexually attracted to, and that is that. To put it into words you might be able to understand (as most people don't understand what it's like to have homosexual feelings unless they have actually had them) I'll say this: You don't choose which food tastes good to you. Sometimes, you don't like a food because you got sick once while eating it, but most of the time you don't like a food simply because you don't like it.
@PCEggo For example, I hate bell peppers, for no apparent reason. I just think they taste bad. And while yeah, I can force myself to eat them, why bother when there are plenty of other healthy foods I find delicious? Gay isn't bad for anyone. Actually, let me rephrase.. Love is bad for no one. And you are just being silly, sir.
@ChannelCassie I disagree on all points, and please don't assume that I'm not speaking from experience.
It's not silly. and you know what, the 98% thing was made up, maybe not by you, but that figure is silly. The LDS church's programs have a very high rehab ratio for every kind of addiction.
comparing it to food tastes just isn't a good comparison. there is no good comparison. but i know many innocently find themselves unable to change by themselves, and they get frustrated from...
@ChannelCassie ...from everyone telling them they ought to be able too. They get so annoyed and frustrated trying to deny the urge to be attracted to the same gender, because they just can't make it go away. They figure they must just have been born this way, try to make peace with it while denying the institutions that tell them otherwise.
but what i know is that those attractions are no different from any other kind of sexual addiction. It happens to often to innocent good people who...
@ChannelCassie ... the thing they were born with was a bigger, more sensitive heart and emotions, and abuse (and mind you abuse can take many forms, even if its just a lifetime of 6's and 7's on a scale of one to ten, ten being the worst you can be abused emotionally) drove their psyche to find homosexuality far more appealing than heterosexuality, which may just have seemed too complicated or too hopeless, or who know what... but the subconscious fell upon an addictive behavior to cope for...
@PCEggo Or, better yet, why don't you go help interracial couples with their "addictions"? And black/tan people in general. That curse of the dark skin is far more unhealthy than being gay.
needs that were going unmet, and like you said in your video, yes... to live without love, that's hell. tackling the issue with only the individual wisdom you possessed, and failing, and then becoming convinced that if you couldn't beat it, join it.... you see, such people rarely seek out professional help until after they concluded they were gay. most are just too ashamed, so they keep it bottled up until a false understanding of their issue overtakes them so deeply they are...
@ChannelCassie convinced they were born this way, it defines them, they tried changing on their own and it didn't work, so they embrace it instead. And yes, thoughts can affect emotions and emotions are controlled by chemical hormones in the physical body, the limbic system.
the moral of the story is, though it would take a correct understanding of how it happened and a lot of hard work psychologically and intellectually to backtrack the way out, the urges can be shifted and controlled.
@PCEggo Unless you speak from experience meaning you are gay, then you don't speak from experience sir. I fail to see how to can say this is an addiction. I don't run around having sex with every woman I see. And I can go for long, long periods of time without sex. Desire for sex and love is 100% normal, and having that desire for women instead of men in no way encompasses the meaning of the word addiction. Food is no comparison, however it is the best comparison. I can claim I dislike bell
@PCEggo peppers because of some stupid innate psychological disorder, but it doesn't really matter. All you people, you're the one with the addiction. You're addicted to being right. You will scream and scream that being gay is wrong because it's against your religion, and of course your religion HAS to be right so you will make up whatever you need to to prove your god and your bible. I'm sorry, but I'm trying to live my life in peace and happiness. It doesn't matter that I think your wrong,
@PCEggo because I won't tell you your religion is unhealthy until you attack me like this. I have never done anything to you, and yet you tromp on in here trying to prove there's something unhealthy about my behavior when honestly, I'm in a committed and loving relationship no different or stranger than a heterosexual one, and I go about my life trying to do good. I help people, all the time. And that is what Jesus wants. Jesus never damned the gays. And he also didn't run around telling
@PCEggo everyone they were wrong or evil or unhealthy. If you really want to prove a point to me, stop running around on the internet trying to psycho-deconstruct other people's lives (when you are the one with the real problem, homophobia) help someone for a change, and try and convince me, without directly saying it, that you are a better person than me because you are a heterosexual.
@ChannelCassie yes, i've been to that place. I've stared it in the face, but I'm not going to say, "I'm gay," because of everything I just said. I struggle immensely approaching a girl with romantic interests, but I'm going to keep at it because I believe its just healthier psychologically when I do progress and have success at trying.
I've tried to be as respectful as possible in presenting my views. Sorry if you feel attacked. :( I didn't say you were a bad person, only that i disagree...
@PCEggo that being is gay is an unchangeable born with trait. At the same time though, I feel like I'm sympathizing with you. Not in a ha ha i'm better than you kind of a way, but in an ok, yes, I recognize your pain and plight, and it doesn't make you a terrible person or any less than me. I offer respect, even though we might have to agree to disagree
oh, and I meant the term addiction as in fixation, not as in how often you have sex. :/
@ChannelCassie i feel like there's a middle ground between the two positions, and that both sides are utterly wrong on some points. Christians are wrong to condemn gays for feelings they have had no control over. At the same time gays are unjustified in saying they were born that way and move to alter the basis of what constitutes a family based solely on their own unprofessional self-diagnosises when many professionals have said that it can be classified as a disorder and corrected if desired.
@ChannelCassie i think i still will. you know, if you wanna stay where your at... fine. I didn't say you couldn't. but there are others out there with different conclusions about this stuff besides yours.
that all said though. Its hard to change and its not your fault these feelings developed in the first place so don't let the world take away your self esteem because of it.
Amen.. God loves yu for yu. I feel ya and in my church that I use to go to always bash gays right in front of everyone when they're preaching which I thougt was complete bs..I'm Christian by the way. I was appalled and couldn't believe they did that. I'm sure god wasn't please for them saying that while preaching
i'm mormon and gay lol but they dont know it but i dont plan on telling or doing anything about b/c im going to be 18 soon so i wont be going anymore but ive been gay for years :]
to summarize. *born & raised in a mormon family,went to church,attended all meetings,etc *knew i liked girls since age 4 *hated myself,wanted to die,kept trying to like boys *would rather die than be gay *spent my life hating myself since kindergarten when i really realized i liked girls *cut myself all the time *talked to bishop *told to pray *prayed and prayed for god to change me *finally accepted myself *came out to parents @ 23 *my siblings accept me & knew i was before i did
To go with the food analogy to me it was like looking at a table and on the table there is a bottle of poison or something but there is also yummy and healthy food...i know thats a bit extreme but literally before coming out to my family i felt like i was drinking poison and slowly killing myself...now i am out to them and it sucks alot but only because my parents told me there is gay people that never come out because god wants them not to ...i dont want to live unhappy but anyways im rambling
I commend you on your bravery! It is hard to be gay and come from a Mormon background.
The church being closed to many people proves that eventhough they have been given a gift from God (the fullness of the gospel) they have corrupted it by their own agenda, and will all individually pay in the end.
Man always screws things up. The Bible is proof, and Mormonism is also proof.
Be Mormon, Be Gay. Just forget about the Church because they are lost.
Also I want to add.....ChannelCassie was probably a girl who went to church and went through the actions and didn't care to hear the messages that was being said. She probably doesn't even know about Adam and Eve. Or probably heard it wrong and thought it was Adam and Steve.
haha very true MsPinkytoe, I'm Mormon (Convert) and my sister is gay and SHE IS A DRAMA QUEEN!!! Went out with a guy for 4 years straight. Junior High through High School. They Broke up, couldn't get over it. Then turned gay. I met all her gay friends, including guys. THEY ARE ALL DRAMA QUEENS!!
You have no right to say what is and is not a sin. Homosexuality is not a sin- if it was, Jesus would have said something about it. But Jesus never said a damn word about homosexuality. However, he did say tons about judging your neighbor.. and saying all gay people are immature is extremely judgemental and stereotypical. It'd be like if I said all religious people are stupid because you are.
It's called a PUN dumbass. IT'S A JOKE. Learn to take one.
I fail to see how I am crap- you're stupid, so stupid you don't understand a pun, so thats an exponentially hypocritical accusation on your part. I learned lots in the mormon religion, including patriarchy and racism. I hope you enjoy your belief in the curse of the dark skin.
I'm not sure if you actually watched the video.. I was mormon for 15 years. And I am gay, and I was gay then. The title is a play off of both of those things. Dig?
And it's they're, not there. You are a testament that god and his power do not make the best things.
Guys like you make me happy. However, I just can't find myself to blindly believe something is real; I need something more solid. Before I can believe I need some proof. Faith is almost always a bad thing when placed in something you have no idea about. That's why I'm more agnostic. I also don't disbelieve; because both religion and atheism don't allow for the fact that they might be wrong.
You're telling me I'm going to hell. That's judging me. I'm exorcising my free will right now, and I'll do what I think is right. Why don't you go and repent for your own sins before telling me to repent for mine?
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)
But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)
OH HOLY MAN, PLEASE REPENT YOUR SINS OR YOU WILL BURN IN HELL WITH THE GAYS. You completely missed the point of my post. Don't fucking judge me, or you will be judged as harshly.
"For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)
"For a lot of people they are going to think they are going to have to make a choice between their sexuality and religion, and i don't think that's true."
I believe the same thing. I'm practicing Catholic and when I started to realize I was gay I prayed so much about asking God what ever you want me to do to get me to Heaven do it. And as the years went by I realized, He made me this way for a reason. So i knew I could be a Catholic and lesbian and it would be just fine.
Yes. :] I don't think it's up to anyone to tell you what will and will not get you to heaven because the truth is they don't know. They have no idea and to say they do is placing themselves at an equal level of god. They have no right to condemn anyone. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's the most talked about sin in the bible.
and don't you notice that in the Bible a popular quote Jesus uses is that "go, your faith has saved you" He says to the sinners. He knows we all will sin, so if you still have your faith in Him I believe it will save you.
yeaa, in the end, i dissagreed with it too, you cant help who you love in the end, because it will just happen. n u cant help who ur attracked too, because u just are! god or who/ever mighty power whos, watching over us will be proud we made this realisation, and he/she will love us for that,
Nice video! I like that you call out to people to not be affraid. Awesome message!! But I really don't get why religious people are always changing the meaning of the bible and shift between different religions instead of asking themselfs whether god even exists and if he does why the bible is his true word :P
I'm sorry, but you've got it backwards. At one point yeah I did feel cornered into a lifestyle, by religious people telling me who I could and could not be. But you know what? Jesus didn't say a damn thing about homosexuality. Why is it so wrong? He didn't think so. People can live a hetero lifestyle and still be gay. Your sexual orientation can be hidden, not changed.
I wish I could give this comment a "thumbs up", because Ellen and Portia are my favorite celebrity couple, and Ellen's my fave celebrity. And I want to thumbs up the comment you made about people having a straight lifestyle but still being gay, because that's what I believe too. You can't choose who you fall in love with. =) Love this video btw, it's amazing. You should check out the song "Saved" by Meghan Tonjes, it's about religious bigots and a lot of things you talk about in this video. :D
well im not religious, but i met a of couple of cool new people and i found that they're all mormon, and in my school it's okay to be gay (haha) so anyways, im scared of coming out to them, and my one mormon friend who is really agnostic told me not to come out.. idk, i just hate the fact that i can't be myself and then just end up having new friendships stop over religious beliefs
It depends on who you're friends are in all honesty. I know supportive mormons and ones who aren't. Just remind them that while you're not religious, you don't have a problem with them being, so why should they have a problem with you being gay? Friendships are about acceptance.
yes that's true, i believe in that rule first and for most. i just can't believe it actually happened to me, instead of hiding my sexuality before i've come out, im hiding it to them after i've come out.(came out?) anyways, i love your video, and what you value in being yourself, are you still mormon though?
I am not still mormon. But not because I'm gay, because I just don't agree with so many of their beliefs. Once I actually had a reason to question it, I realized it wasn't what I thought. Jut what I'd been told.
yeah i guess that's a way of approaching it, and that's how i approached my catholic beliefs when i was 13. i wasn't content with the answers given to me, i couldn't believe there was one god who everyone reffrered to as a he, and all that mombojumbo. not that i think faith and religion is a dumb practice, i just don't believe in christian beliefs.
@ChannelCassie
the church comes into conflict with the basic desires for love and human relationship, only because you don't properly understand the psychological stuff that led to you "realizing you were gay." and no one ever does until let themselves have the time to think out how they got there. Usually its impossible without professional help, but being gay is a choice in that a) no one is born that way, they develop into it. b) with the right help, change can happen, its happened before
PCEggo 8 months ago
@PCEggo Honestly that isn't how it works. When you are first born, you don't have a sexual preference until you get to a point where you understand sexuality. The innocence of a child stops the thinking of loving a man or a woman because that is not how a child thinks. There two young to know what they want. It's not until a little before puberty when the hormones really start to work. And either by genetic makeup of influences you are pushed to liking a sex. con.
Movieview90 8 months ago
When sexual attraction finally clicks in and the gland in your brain gives you sexual desires. That is when you realize you are either strait or gay. And many people don't come out at this age, because many suppress there feelings due to fear or denial. I stayed in a relationship with the opposite sex for 3 years because i was scared of what my body was feeling. And because i was a christian,. I couldn't be gay, i simply couldn't, my parents would disown me, i would be talked about. But i am.
Movieview90 8 months ago
@PCEggo No, actually. I realized I was sexually attracted to women when I hit puberty, which is when everyone's body realizes who they're sexually attracted to. The reason you develop into it is exactly the same way that people develop into being straight. Change does NOT happen, and those who say they do are lying. I think I read about 98% of "ex-gays" go back to being gay because they're sick of lying.
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
@PCEggo You choose who you have sex with, but you do not choose who you are sexually attracted to, and that is that. To put it into words you might be able to understand (as most people don't understand what it's like to have homosexual feelings unless they have actually had them) I'll say this: You don't choose which food tastes good to you. Sometimes, you don't like a food because you got sick once while eating it, but most of the time you don't like a food simply because you don't like it.
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
@PCEggo For example, I hate bell peppers, for no apparent reason. I just think they taste bad. And while yeah, I can force myself to eat them, why bother when there are plenty of other healthy foods I find delicious? Gay isn't bad for anyone. Actually, let me rephrase.. Love is bad for no one. And you are just being silly, sir.
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
@ChannelCassie I disagree on all points, and please don't assume that I'm not speaking from experience.
It's not silly. and you know what, the 98% thing was made up, maybe not by you, but that figure is silly. The LDS church's programs have a very high rehab ratio for every kind of addiction.
comparing it to food tastes just isn't a good comparison. there is no good comparison. but i know many innocently find themselves unable to change by themselves, and they get frustrated from...
PCEggo 8 months ago
@ChannelCassie ...from everyone telling them they ought to be able too. They get so annoyed and frustrated trying to deny the urge to be attracted to the same gender, because they just can't make it go away. They figure they must just have been born this way, try to make peace with it while denying the institutions that tell them otherwise.
but what i know is that those attractions are no different from any other kind of sexual addiction. It happens to often to innocent good people who...
PCEggo 8 months ago
@ChannelCassie ... the thing they were born with was a bigger, more sensitive heart and emotions, and abuse (and mind you abuse can take many forms, even if its just a lifetime of 6's and 7's on a scale of one to ten, ten being the worst you can be abused emotionally) drove their psyche to find homosexuality far more appealing than heterosexuality, which may just have seemed too complicated or too hopeless, or who know what... but the subconscious fell upon an addictive behavior to cope for...
PCEggo 8 months ago
@PCEggo Or, better yet, why don't you go help interracial couples with their "addictions"? And black/tan people in general. That curse of the dark skin is far more unhealthy than being gay.
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
needs that were going unmet, and like you said in your video, yes... to live without love, that's hell. tackling the issue with only the individual wisdom you possessed, and failing, and then becoming convinced that if you couldn't beat it, join it.... you see, such people rarely seek out professional help until after they concluded they were gay. most are just too ashamed, so they keep it bottled up until a false understanding of their issue overtakes them so deeply they are...
PCEggo 8 months ago
@ChannelCassie convinced they were born this way, it defines them, they tried changing on their own and it didn't work, so they embrace it instead. And yes, thoughts can affect emotions and emotions are controlled by chemical hormones in the physical body, the limbic system.
the moral of the story is, though it would take a correct understanding of how it happened and a lot of hard work psychologically and intellectually to backtrack the way out, the urges can be shifted and controlled.
PCEggo 8 months ago
@PCEggo Unless you speak from experience meaning you are gay, then you don't speak from experience sir. I fail to see how to can say this is an addiction. I don't run around having sex with every woman I see. And I can go for long, long periods of time without sex. Desire for sex and love is 100% normal, and having that desire for women instead of men in no way encompasses the meaning of the word addiction. Food is no comparison, however it is the best comparison. I can claim I dislike bell
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
@PCEggo peppers because of some stupid innate psychological disorder, but it doesn't really matter. All you people, you're the one with the addiction. You're addicted to being right. You will scream and scream that being gay is wrong because it's against your religion, and of course your religion HAS to be right so you will make up whatever you need to to prove your god and your bible. I'm sorry, but I'm trying to live my life in peace and happiness. It doesn't matter that I think your wrong,
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
@PCEggo because I won't tell you your religion is unhealthy until you attack me like this. I have never done anything to you, and yet you tromp on in here trying to prove there's something unhealthy about my behavior when honestly, I'm in a committed and loving relationship no different or stranger than a heterosexual one, and I go about my life trying to do good. I help people, all the time. And that is what Jesus wants. Jesus never damned the gays. And he also didn't run around telling
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
@PCEggo everyone they were wrong or evil or unhealthy. If you really want to prove a point to me, stop running around on the internet trying to psycho-deconstruct other people's lives (when you are the one with the real problem, homophobia) help someone for a change, and try and convince me, without directly saying it, that you are a better person than me because you are a heterosexual.
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
@ChannelCassie yes, i've been to that place. I've stared it in the face, but I'm not going to say, "I'm gay," because of everything I just said. I struggle immensely approaching a girl with romantic interests, but I'm going to keep at it because I believe its just healthier psychologically when I do progress and have success at trying.
I've tried to be as respectful as possible in presenting my views. Sorry if you feel attacked. :( I didn't say you were a bad person, only that i disagree...
PCEggo 8 months ago
@PCEggo that being is gay is an unchangeable born with trait. At the same time though, I feel like I'm sympathizing with you. Not in a ha ha i'm better than you kind of a way, but in an ok, yes, I recognize your pain and plight, and it doesn't make you a terrible person or any less than me. I offer respect, even though we might have to agree to disagree
oh, and I meant the term addiction as in fixation, not as in how often you have sex. :/
PCEggo 8 months ago
@ChannelCassie i feel like there's a middle ground between the two positions, and that both sides are utterly wrong on some points. Christians are wrong to condemn gays for feelings they have had no control over. At the same time gays are unjustified in saying they were born that way and move to alter the basis of what constitutes a family based solely on their own unprofessional self-diagnosises when many professionals have said that it can be classified as a disorder and corrected if desired.
PCEggo 8 months ago
@PCEggo Come talk to me in 10 years and we'll see if you still believe this bullshit.
ChannelCassie 8 months ago
@ChannelCassie i think i still will. you know, if you wanna stay where your at... fine. I didn't say you couldn't. but there are others out there with different conclusions about this stuff besides yours.
that all said though. Its hard to change and its not your fault these feelings developed in the first place so don't let the world take away your self esteem because of it.
PCEggo 8 months ago
Oh and I'm gay
Shontae016 1 year ago
Amen.. God loves yu for yu. I feel ya and in my church that I use to go to always bash gays right in front of everyone when they're preaching which I thougt was complete bs..I'm Christian by the way. I was appalled and couldn't believe they did that. I'm sure god wasn't please for them saying that while preaching
Shontae016 1 year ago
i'm mormon and gay lol but they dont know it but i dont plan on telling or doing anything about b/c im going to be 18 soon so i wont be going anymore but ive been gay for years :]
DooDahDippity2 1 year ago
@xX3DG4meXx Not sure why you would make this comment; I never said if you're mormon, you're gay.
ChannelCassie 1 year ago
I wish my mom would want me to be happy :(
my parents are choosing their religion over my feelings
kittenbebe04 1 year ago
@MsPinkytoe you're gay and you cant be a christian because you believe in more than one god....being christian is beveling in one god
brandt01 1 year ago
kittenbebe04 1 year ago
To go with the food analogy to me it was like looking at a table and on the table there is a bottle of poison or something but there is also yummy and healthy food...i know thats a bit extreme but literally before coming out to my family i felt like i was drinking poison and slowly killing myself...now i am out to them and it sucks alot but only because my parents told me there is gay people that never come out because god wants them not to ...i dont want to live unhappy but anyways im rambling
kittenbebe04 1 year ago
I commend you on your bravery! It is hard to be gay and come from a Mormon background.
The church being closed to many people proves that eventhough they have been given a gift from God (the fullness of the gospel) they have corrupted it by their own agenda, and will all individually pay in the end.
Man always screws things up. The Bible is proof, and Mormonism is also proof.
Be Mormon, Be Gay. Just forget about the Church because they are lost.
Draek25 2 years ago
Also I want to add.....ChannelCassie was probably a girl who went to church and went through the actions and didn't care to hear the messages that was being said. She probably doesn't even know about Adam and Eve. Or probably heard it wrong and thought it was Adam and Steve.
RocknDevil 2 years ago
haha very true MsPinkytoe, I'm Mormon (Convert) and my sister is gay and SHE IS A DRAMA QUEEN!!! Went out with a guy for 4 years straight. Junior High through High School. They Broke up, couldn't get over it. Then turned gay. I met all her gay friends, including guys. THEY ARE ALL DRAMA QUEENS!!
RocknDevil 2 years ago
ZING!
RocknDevil 2 years ago
I only said it because you said it.
But I don't have time to argue with you, today is p4a and I need to promote videos and save lives
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
You have no right to say what is and is not a sin. Homosexuality is not a sin- if it was, Jesus would have said something about it. But Jesus never said a damn word about homosexuality. However, he did say tons about judging your neighbor.. and saying all gay people are immature is extremely judgemental and stereotypical. It'd be like if I said all religious people are stupid because you are.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
It's called a PUN dumbass. IT'S A JOKE. Learn to take one.
I fail to see how I am crap- you're stupid, so stupid you don't understand a pun, so thats an exponentially hypocritical accusation on your part. I learned lots in the mormon religion, including patriarchy and racism. I hope you enjoy your belief in the curse of the dark skin.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
I'm not sure if you actually watched the video.. I was mormon for 15 years. And I am gay, and I was gay then. The title is a play off of both of those things. Dig?
And it's they're, not there. You are a testament that god and his power do not make the best things.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
Guys like you make me happy. However, I just can't find myself to blindly believe something is real; I need something more solid. Before I can believe I need some proof. Faith is almost always a bad thing when placed in something you have no idea about. That's why I'm more agnostic. I also don't disbelieve; because both religion and atheism don't allow for the fact that they might be wrong.
PenPalCassie 2 years ago
Oh, so you're on youtube to magnify your calling.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
You're telling me I'm going to hell. That's judging me. I'm exorcising my free will right now, and I'll do what I think is right. Why don't you go and repent for your own sins before telling me to repent for mine?
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27)
But all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you." (Leviticus 11:10)
OH HOLY MAN, PLEASE REPENT YOUR SINS OR YOU WILL BURN IN HELL WITH THE GAYS. You completely missed the point of my post. Don't fucking judge me, or you will be judged as harshly.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
"For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9)
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
Are those scriptures your throwing at me, or stones? Don't judge me, friend.
Matthew 7
1. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
everything you say between 6:34-7:43 is everything ive every felt.
sonjunkie 2 years ago
"For a lot of people they are going to think they are going to have to make a choice between their sexuality and religion, and i don't think that's true."
I believe the same thing. I'm practicing Catholic and when I started to realize I was gay I prayed so much about asking God what ever you want me to do to get me to Heaven do it. And as the years went by I realized, He made me this way for a reason. So i knew I could be a Catholic and lesbian and it would be just fine.
sonjunkie 2 years ago
Yes. :] I don't think it's up to anyone to tell you what will and will not get you to heaven because the truth is they don't know. They have no idea and to say they do is placing themselves at an equal level of god. They have no right to condemn anyone. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's the most talked about sin in the bible.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
and don't you notice that in the Bible a popular quote Jesus uses is that "go, your faith has saved you" He says to the sinners. He knows we all will sin, so if you still have your faith in Him I believe it will save you.
Btw, what are you? (religion wise)
sonjunkie 2 years ago
Exactly. There's so much people leave out.
I was mormon, now I suppose I fit under agnostic.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
i used to be morman, my family was into it too, but now we dont go to cruch or anything, and i became a realised homo =]]
Strattiee 2 years ago
Hahaha. I became a realized homo before, but idk.. It just wasn't for me. I miss the people I used to be close too but I just disagree.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
yeaa, in the end, i dissagreed with it too, you cant help who you love in the end, because it will just happen. n u cant help who ur attracked too, because u just are! god or who/ever mighty power whos, watching over us will be proud we made this realisation, and he/she will love us for that,
Strattiee 2 years ago
Nice video! I like that you call out to people to not be affraid. Awesome message!! But I really don't get why religious people are always changing the meaning of the bible and shift between different religions instead of asking themselfs whether god even exists and if he does why the bible is his true word :P
Buschox 2 years ago
really it is NOT a choice?
tell that to Anne Heche and many many others.
You feel cornered into a lifestyle, many many people have left and go out of the corner.
omiolo2 2 years ago
I'm sorry, but you've got it backwards. At one point yeah I did feel cornered into a lifestyle, by religious people telling me who I could and could not be. But you know what? Jesus didn't say a damn thing about homosexuality. Why is it so wrong? He didn't think so. People can live a hetero lifestyle and still be gay. Your sexual orientation can be hidden, not changed.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
But I'm glad Anne Heche 'changed' after being with Ellen because if she hadn't Ellen wouldn't be with her beautiful wife portia de rossi. <3
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
I wish I could give this comment a "thumbs up", because Ellen and Portia are my favorite celebrity couple, and Ellen's my fave celebrity. And I want to thumbs up the comment you made about people having a straight lifestyle but still being gay, because that's what I believe too. You can't choose who you fall in love with. =) Love this video btw, it's amazing. You should check out the song "Saved" by Meghan Tonjes, it's about religious bigots and a lot of things you talk about in this video. :D
adorablepancreas 2 years ago
(this was in reference to Cassie's comment, not omiolo2's, just to make that clear.)
adorablepancreas 2 years ago
what?!?! so does this mean we can't get married anymore?!?!
guevaramatthew 2 years ago
Sorry, I'm engaged to ChicoKeen. ):
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
ohh goodness i just checked out her channel/videos! wow.. i am jealous of both of you!
guevaramatthew 2 years ago
Yeah, we make a rather beautiful youtube couple if I might say so myself. :)
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
Ahhh don't ya look cute with your ears pierced? x
everybodyloveshubert 2 years ago
well im not religious, but i met a of couple of cool new people and i found that they're all mormon, and in my school it's okay to be gay (haha) so anyways, im scared of coming out to them, and my one mormon friend who is really agnostic told me not to come out.. idk, i just hate the fact that i can't be myself and then just end up having new friendships stop over religious beliefs
upsidedownfrontwards 2 years ago
It depends on who you're friends are in all honesty. I know supportive mormons and ones who aren't. Just remind them that while you're not religious, you don't have a problem with them being, so why should they have a problem with you being gay? Friendships are about acceptance.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
yes that's true, i believe in that rule first and for most. i just can't believe it actually happened to me, instead of hiding my sexuality before i've come out, im hiding it to them after i've come out.(came out?) anyways, i love your video, and what you value in being yourself, are you still mormon though?
upsidedownfrontwards 2 years ago
I am not still mormon. But not because I'm gay, because I just don't agree with so many of their beliefs. Once I actually had a reason to question it, I realized it wasn't what I thought. Jut what I'd been told.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
yeah i guess that's a way of approaching it, and that's how i approached my catholic beliefs when i was 13. i wasn't content with the answers given to me, i couldn't believe there was one god who everyone reffrered to as a he, and all that mombojumbo. not that i think faith and religion is a dumb practice, i just don't believe in christian beliefs.
upsidedownfrontwards 2 years ago
Exactly. :] I'm the same way.
ChannelCassie 2 years ago
Great video, thanks so much for sharing your struggle. Everybody should use that: "It's not a sin, it's a mistranslation!"
CineRam 2 years ago