Im thinkin just couldn’t drive a greased stick up a pigs ass! If you had a suspension failure wouldn’t you try to slow down? I see no brake lights only acceleration! Fail
Sometimes, when yer a no skills driver, you have to cease to "race" and take a little time out to get the fucking car headed in the right direction. Lettin yourself get into a tank slapper on a goddamn straight is just unforgivable, Jesus, what a blunder. We had a couple SCCA boys show up to run stock cars and they learned a lot real quick, like it's lots harder then they thought and how to run in the back and stay out of the way.
Inner toe link end failure. There's no way anyone could drive this badly. He would not have made it out of the dealership without waffling it up. For those who don't know. Rear toe link end fatigues and breaks. Rear wheel goes toe-in, toe-out, toe-in, toe-out depending on suspension loads. This vid could be the poster for it. Or.... quite possibly a snake in the car.
@F1Mad93 oversteers under deceleration, the instinct when losing control is usually to hit the brakes, which this guy did....when he shoulda hit the gas.
@gnolhsobners if u looked at the video u will notice he didnt HIT the brakes until he was well and truely out of control. have u ever been on a race track or u just an arm chair expert and dont know fuck? hitting the gas in that fucking situation wouldn't have made a difference he had already lost control of the car. he got into a tank slapper because he is over correcting and then trying to counter steer too violently. He needed smaller steering input and ease on the gas to restablish grip.
@gnolhsobners and secondly when he approached the first corner he was already sliding the back and had very little traction.. when he approached the second corner.. he approached it too fast and lifted off the throttle which resulted in the car swinging out of control. That is called LIFT off oversteer. you've got NO FUCKING IDEA NONE WHAT SO EVER.
@robbyjai You do realize that is what I said right!!! why the hostility redneck? If only rednecks could read.
Re read my original statement, "He likely went off throttle when he started getting sideways, deweighting the rear, and thus the crash....stay on the throttle, just countersteer....... "
and no he shouldn't have eased on the gas, he should have STAYED ON THE GAS. I have a fucking elise, when my tail slides i leave my right foot in place and fucking countersteer.
@robbyjai "secondly" any deceleration de weights the rear, but yeah he didn't hit the brakes until later, doesnt matter though.......the driver didn't take the corners too fast, he just sucked at driving.........the mazda gained on the elise in the corners and got dusted in the straights........that is usually the opposite of what should happen.
If you watch this whole video you see the elise driver almost crashing on most corners....... the elise pulls away from the mx on the straights and the mx driver outhandles the elise driver................just a really bad driver
He likely went off throttle when he started getting sideways, deweighting the rear, and thus the crash....stay on the throttle, just countersteer.......
There's a longer version of this and watching the longer one makes me think it's more likely to be Driver failiure.
He starts of Ok but he gets worse and worse, most likely because he's embarressed that a guy in an MX5 is able to go quicker than him and doesn't want him to pass.
Watch "Varano Mx5 Sport vs Lotus elise and crash" Posted by gasgas1953romeitaly to see the full version and make up your own mind.
"Possible suspension failure"? HA! More like "definite driver failure. The Elise is a fantastic car, truly, but they require more talent to drive fast than the Miata. Factor in the huge rubber Miatas can run (Elise need more fender!), and it makes them tough to outrun on tight technical courses like these.
ur absolutely right. in a mid engined or rear engined cars (esp. rear wheel drives), it is absolutely counter intuitive when it comes to hard cornering. For example, say you were entering a corner too fast and ur heading toward a crash zone, if ur driving a rear wheel drive and if ur car has more weight in the back than in front, u'd have to push harder and steer less in order to keep ur car out of the crash zone. I'm not a professional driver so I wouldn't swear on it or anything, but it
the sanme thing happend to me on the ice, while driving my accord and I didnt crashed, I steered the car into control again, but i was scared as shit tho doing 40 mph without control its fdup!
@bamboali to gain control, you have to slowdown and steer to control, but like this dude did, controling+accelerating=crash, whereas controling+slowingdown=gain control
@chickenpax1 actually no... this is a big misconception with vehicle dynamics because honestly it is very counter intuitive. If you are trying to turn "more" you get out of the gas (weight to front) or reduce steering angle (if understeering). Especially in a mid engined car like the elise you would actually get on the thottle more to transfer weight to the back, making you "turn less". The crash here looked like a combination of poor steering correction coupled with trailing throttle oversteer.
Dynamic Stability Control problem!? It doesn't even have DSC. Hell, the Elise doesn't even have power steering! (look it up yourself) Please do your research before you comment. Thanks.
i like how ppl try to tell what the cause was as if their god... as far as i know the driver couldve done that on purpose because he hated his life and wanted to die.... so your all wrong
It was the DSC that caused it, Stability Control, watch closesly, He is BARELY Countersteering, not enough for that, and it Still shifts to the other side, its the car trying to control itself and locking the driver out which caused it
@Ayperos93 false. research the elise/exige. these cars dont even have power steering, why would they have stability control? there are no aids in this car.
@dustziggy "MX5 for the win!!! Nah seriously the elise is quicker, just more difficult to push hard." Not exactly true. It's only more difficult to push hard in the sense that it would be going much faster. At the same speed the Lotus is easier to drive because of light weight and superior suspension.
@dustziggy Oh I forgot. There are absolutely no videos of Mazdas crashing. And why does everybody have to "laugh out loud" when they're home alone and on the computer.
@wd4000000 What are you on about? haha. "Everybody" can say what they want, who do you think you are Mr communista, stop getting so upset. Your very defensive about the Lotus, Is anyone allowed to have a different opinion or do we all have to agree with you? This video is just a bit of fun, who cares which car is better. I'm sure there are plenty of mazda's crashing also.
@dustziggy What am I on about??? You came into a Lotus video and started talking about how great your cookie cutter Miata was. I don't know how that makes me a Communist but I do know how it makes you a major douchebag. Enjoy the Miata. My Aunt loves hers. In fact I think it's the choice of sporty Aunts everywhere. Later, jerkoff. Don't forget to laugh out loud.
@wd4000000 LOL, your a joke. Firstly, the video is not a "Lotus video" its a car video. Secondly, I was kiddong that miata's are faster then the Lotus, which they ARE NOT. Thirdly, your a little shit, get over yourself, we are all here to have a laugh, not listen to defensive fan boys like you. Did I attack your favorite brand of car, awww diddums
Dude just got greedy after he spun the rears on exit. He hadn't fully gotten it corrected but kept gasing up. Overconfidence is a bitch. Very common, no suspension failure.
Lotus Elises and Exiges have a known problem with rear toe links breaking. If that happens the car becomes very unstable- looks like that's what we're seeing here.
Mazda guy was a better driver but the Elise owner didn't want to admit it; he should've yielded instead of try going faster than he was comfortable with.
No body yields to a miata at the track, i know because i have one. no matter how closely you tail at them at the corner they will not wave you by. sometime the corner marshall will flag those moving road block
i dunno looks like he's realy lost control.. i'm wondering what the problem could be. supspension error.. oke reasonable. but.. it just coult be that he could nog regain control due to driver error. who are whe to decide. one thing is for shore.. its a bloody shame.
There is nothing overly wrong with the driving - the car is not braking - brake lights only come on as he approaches the wall. There is however definitely a fault with the car, my guess is the diff failed hence the fishtailing as the wheels get differing amounts of torque.
@jewbag18 Corolla has all the weight of the engine and trans up front. The Elise has all that weight in the back which gives it a lot better traction and makes it much more difficult to drift. Do I need to explain anything else to you?
@jamecontent I don't judge, you seem to have an answer for everything so show us your car and your skills or give us information why an elise is a shit - maybe we have something to learn from you
to all the people who think crashes don't just happen, then how to you explain the hundreds of nascar, rally, dragster, indy, F1 etc....... crashes that happen every year? I suppose their all bad drivers too?
I disagree with the 'crashes happen' comment. The driver lost control from 0:03 onwards. Instead of easing off after this happened, he tried to power through it but violently counter-steered over and over until eventually he was thrown into the barrier. Bad driving.
@bonesdog101 AWD=4WD................... because the car has 4 wheels so 4wd is awd get it? AND NO NOT COUNTING THE SPARE TYRE. not even sure if i have one in it..
@dontjepko ACTUALLY 4WD and AWD are in fact different. 4WD is when the engine pushes all 4 whells equally mostly trucks have it. AWD have a differential where the back wheels usually do 60% of the work and the front tires do 40% of the work. Plus trucks that are 4WD can be taken out of 4WD while AWD vehichles are permanently AWD. You obviously know nothing about vehicles.
@grrfsrip Don't have my driverslisence yet.. 'Taking the exam 29th of july.. And yes i might upload some vids of it. no rush in it.. it's been sitting in the garage since 19th of february.. only got pics atm. ofcourse you won't be convinced since it could be anyone's STi.. and why hate on me? i bet you don't even have A car, and defenatly NO STi, since you already spelled it wrong..
@dontjepko Okay well I'm sorry I missed one letter. Also I never said I owned one. But you'd lose that bet because I do own a car. Bought it myself. But I'm selling it soon and looking at an Evolution VII I'm most likely going to buy. In addition. I wasn't hating, I was doubting.
@dontjepko oh and AWD and 4WD is not the same... in case you didnt know. learn something why dont you and i bet you dont even know what makes the AWD on a Subaru so special and why its top of the line.
@lasersdend15 If you would have read the comment of bonesdog101 you would have noticed he already explained it. I don't care what it makes so special, or if it's 4WD or AWD. I have a Subaru and i love it, beats most cars out there at trafficlights.. espicially the dumb Vw Golfs with the hardcore.. Most people can only dream of such a car, I got it in the garage. If you don't believe it, i don't really care. So dream on about having a Subaru or get one. Simple as that.
@dontjepko im saying you probably dont know what is so great about the subaru's AWD system, if you love them so much why dont your learn something, trust me they are my favorite cars, id laugh if you didnt even know what kind of engine it has.
@grrfsrip Thats awesome. No car vids, no driving vids, lonely internet game vids only. Wow. Anyone who lives in Subaru World could tell right off he more than likely Doesn't own an STi. Hang around STi drivers, and you'll almost never hear the word Impreza. I have a WRX. A friend of mine, an STi. The only time I have called my car an Impreza is when the police officer asked what the hell kind of car it was. Try either "my soobie" or "my WRX/STi". Pretty sure that goes for any proud Subaru owner.
all the people who call him idiot....you never drove in the race track, you probably dont even own a car! or have a license!...keyboard racers hahaha....
@intintruder So you think your boxster outhandles? I guess one crash video with no verification is proof positive. Boxster is more lol than Elise. Chicks car for sure.
@LotinElite agreed-and like the other video, remember that lotus elise has has a short wheelbase mid engined layout, prone to extreme oversteer of not done correctly...
mid-engine car = keep your eyes on the nose cus if you loose it this is what happens... in other words he lost grip on the front end and this makes an illusion that if u keep steering u 'll achive smthing, but when the grip kicks in then u either have super reflections or a crashed car, at these situations expirienced drivers use the heel n tow teqnique= heel on gas (gently) and tow on brake(more gently) in order to loose more traction at the rear than the front... teq mastered by ayriton senna
I think you are referring to "heal and TOE"... there is no W in toe mate, and its a technique used to rev-match your downshifts while under breaking to have better acceleration on the exit of a corner... I don't see how that would have helped in this situation at all.
Good comment there NateDawg80126, Alroxi is a little confused to say the least:) But, heel and toe does not improve acceleration and is not used for or at corner exit. It is used in the way you explained but as a means of effectively preparing for corner entry. All it is is multi-tasking for smoother and cleaner corner entry.
Definite toe link failure , its happened to me , not nice at all!
ScowlerJase 1 month ago
Im thinkin just couldn’t drive a greased stick up a pigs ass! If you had a suspension failure wouldn’t you try to slow down? I see no brake lights only acceleration! Fail
husto88 2 months ago
@husto88 You do have a point.
Dyn0Don 2 months ago
Well at least he hit the pillow barriers.....
tevinm14 3 months ago
LIFT
nathanallencox 3 months ago
[00:10] shoulda backed off the throttle !
dking5454 3 months ago
He almost had that too. Pretty good job in that Elise even though he didn't save it.
rherold9 5 months ago
LOL A WANNABE RACER...GOOGLE THIS "DRIFT FOR DUMMIES" AND U WILL DO A FEW LAPS MORE...
TheGrabberFromFOD 5 months ago
Passenger- "Just keep your foot in it... It will straighten out in a sec..."
sbd45acp 6 months ago
ran out of talent on that one.
jerdman10 6 months ago
Looks like the notorious tie-rod endlink issue.
604Yarks 6 months ago
@604Yarks looks like he can't handle that.. I run often in that circuit, and there are a lot of dumb people.
alessiopt83 5 months ago
i bet you arms and elbows were flying all over the place in the elise.
3enl0 6 months ago
Quello è un errore di guida, altro che problema alle sospensioni.
Clementelavalle 6 months ago
Sometimes, when yer a no skills driver, you have to cease to "race" and take a little time out to get the fucking car headed in the right direction. Lettin yourself get into a tank slapper on a goddamn straight is just unforgivable, Jesus, what a blunder. We had a couple SCCA boys show up to run stock cars and they learned a lot real quick, like it's lots harder then they thought and how to run in the back and stay out of the way.
505197 6 months ago
it'll buff right out
k3sh4n22 6 months ago
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k3sh4n22 6 months ago
I hope the driver was okay.
Gollsodia 6 months ago
@Gollsodia of chorse he hit super squishy wall te damage may have even been able to buff out at that speed
makoshark40 6 months ago
@makoshark40 Oh, thanks, I didn't know that.
Gollsodia 6 months ago
@Gollsodia yep np im shure he lost the mirror though
makoshark40 6 months ago
Inner toe link end failure. There's no way anyone could drive this badly. He would not have made it out of the dealership without waffling it up. For those who don't know. Rear toe link end fatigues and breaks. Rear wheel goes toe-in, toe-out, toe-in, toe-out depending on suspension loads. This vid could be the poster for it. Or.... quite possibly a snake in the car.
Dyn0Don 7 months ago 5
@Dyn0Don I think he tried to make the car slide on the corner exit, but he lost it.
derbigpr500 6 months ago
WOW....why slam on brakes and become a rubber necker???? and ON A TRACK??? Now, YOU are the hazard b/c the Lotus is off track right.
krcooper76 8 months ago
i dont get how the lotus was sooo oversteery, cos watching topgear they never have cornering problems like this
F1Mad93 8 months ago
@F1Mad93 oversteers under deceleration, the instinct when losing control is usually to hit the brakes, which this guy did....when he shoulda hit the gas.
gnolhsobners 8 months ago
@gnolhsobners if u looked at the video u will notice he didnt HIT the brakes until he was well and truely out of control. have u ever been on a race track or u just an arm chair expert and dont know fuck? hitting the gas in that fucking situation wouldn't have made a difference he had already lost control of the car. he got into a tank slapper because he is over correcting and then trying to counter steer too violently. He needed smaller steering input and ease on the gas to restablish grip.
robbyjai 8 months ago
@gnolhsobners and secondly when he approached the first corner he was already sliding the back and had very little traction.. when he approached the second corner.. he approached it too fast and lifted off the throttle which resulted in the car swinging out of control. That is called LIFT off oversteer. you've got NO FUCKING IDEA NONE WHAT SO EVER.
robbyjai 8 months ago
@robbyjai You do realize that is what I said right!!! why the hostility redneck? If only rednecks could read.
Re read my original statement, "He likely went off throttle when he started getting sideways, deweighting the rear, and thus the crash....stay on the throttle, just countersteer....... "
and no he shouldn't have eased on the gas, he should have STAYED ON THE GAS. I have a fucking elise, when my tail slides i leave my right foot in place and fucking countersteer.
gnolhsobners 8 months ago
@robbyjai "secondly" any deceleration de weights the rear, but yeah he didn't hit the brakes until later, doesnt matter though.......the driver didn't take the corners too fast, he just sucked at driving.........the mazda gained on the elise in the corners and got dusted in the straights........that is usually the opposite of what should happen.
gnolhsobners 8 months ago
If you watch this whole video you see the elise driver almost crashing on most corners....... the elise pulls away from the mx on the straights and the mx driver outhandles the elise driver................just a really bad driver
He likely went off throttle when he started getting sideways, deweighting the rear, and thus the crash....stay on the throttle, just countersteer.......
gnolhsobners 8 months ago
tank slapper
valver86 9 months ago
@valver86 definitely. I hate tank slappers.
krcooper76 8 months ago
Speed wobbles in a car??
corollafrenzy 9 months ago
simply.... pendulum effect
mpr330cd 9 months ago
It looked like he was going to try slalom drifting down the straight. I'm not convinced there was a suspension failure.
AtomicRooster190 9 months ago
possible suspension failure?
more like possible shit driver.
GO THE MX
The1320Addiction 9 months ago
There's a longer version of this and watching the longer one makes me think it's more likely to be Driver failiure.
He starts of Ok but he gets worse and worse, most likely because he's embarressed that a guy in an MX5 is able to go quicker than him and doesn't want him to pass.
Watch "Varano Mx5 Sport vs Lotus elise and crash" Posted by gasgas1953romeitaly to see the full version and make up your own mind.
Goldsack 9 months ago
@Goldsack sorry but no where in that video was the mx5 likely to overtake the elise? when there was no trafic holding him up he was ages away ?
joshcroucher 9 months ago
Toe link failure on the Elise caused the crash.
agentbob100 10 months ago 3
That elise using slick tyre?
xvxtrio 10 months ago
"Possible suspension failure"? HA! More like "definite driver failure. The Elise is a fantastic car, truly, but they require more talent to drive fast than the Miata. Factor in the huge rubber Miatas can run (Elise need more fender!), and it makes them tough to outrun on tight technical courses like these.
Uberwagon 10 months ago
@ niknickiboy23
He didn't stop, DUMBASS!! Lol
MrStangGTCS 10 months ago
Whoops!!!
Rhet0rik 10 months ago
just seems to make sense...
chickenpax1 10 months ago
ur absolutely right. in a mid engined or rear engined cars (esp. rear wheel drives), it is absolutely counter intuitive when it comes to hard cornering. For example, say you were entering a corner too fast and ur heading toward a crash zone, if ur driving a rear wheel drive and if ur car has more weight in the back than in front, u'd have to push harder and steer less in order to keep ur car out of the crash zone. I'm not a professional driver so I wouldn't swear on it or anything, but it
chickenpax1 10 months ago
I agree with op31, lack of driver skill caused this crash, perhaps he should go back to front wheel drive so he can't hurt himself
osebgee 11 months ago
Miata mx5 said "see ya!!!!!"
MrStangGTCS 11 months ago
@MrStangGTCS
youre dumb dude. "he said see ya" right he said see ya when he stopped right.. dumbass..
niknickiboy23 11 months ago
there goes $70,000
FantasyX3I 11 months ago
the driver simply over corrected the first over steer.
chickenpax1 1 year ago
Haha look at the face of the mazda driver right after the crash, you can see him thinking: Should I stop?, a screw him I'm winning this race.. xD
NickW572 1 year ago 2
he likes drifting lol!!
thebarry88 1 year ago
the sanme thing happend to me on the ice, while driving my accord and I didnt crashed, I steered the car into control again, but i was scared as shit tho doing 40 mph without control its fdup!
TCreatorO 1 year ago
I don't know why the elise didn't just let go of the throttle once he caught the initial oversteer...
op3l 1 year ago
I think he should have slowed down in stead of trying to control it
bamboali 1 year ago
@bamboali to gain control, you have to slowdown and steer to control, but like this dude did, controling+accelerating=crash, whereas controling+slowingdown=gain control
TCreatorO 1 year ago
@TCreatorO not necessarily. in real wheel drive cars, if you can always turn ur tail by accelerating, getting yourself out of much trouble.
chickenpax1 1 year ago
@chickenpax1 but on ice, if you accelerate just a bit more than what you need it, it can end-up in over-steer and crashing anyway
TCreatorO 1 year ago
@chickenpax1 like if you see the video carefully, he ended up on the wall bc of over steer, rear wheel lost control and it swing out of control
TCreatorO 1 year ago
@chickenpax1 actually no... this is a big misconception with vehicle dynamics because honestly it is very counter intuitive. If you are trying to turn "more" you get out of the gas (weight to front) or reduce steering angle (if understeering). Especially in a mid engined car like the elise you would actually get on the thottle more to transfer weight to the back, making you "turn less". The crash here looked like a combination of poor steering correction coupled with trailing throttle oversteer.
ffrgtm 10 months ago
Dynamic Stability Control problem!? It doesn't even have DSC. Hell, the Elise doesn't even have power steering! (look it up yourself) Please do your research before you comment. Thanks.
87XJBRM 1 year ago 31
@87XJBRM some of them have DSC it was designed for the gt3 lotus but also in the lotus 240 or 60
CrumBhosale 9 months ago
@87XJBRM right thur is why i like fwd cars, i love all cars, not makin fun of any cars, just a front wheele drive coulda pulled outta that
PANT3N3 8 months ago
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@87XJBRM go fuck your mother
Runkleforskin 7 months ago
@87XJBRM i think i had heard that they only have ABS.
halflife103 7 months ago
That was a lot of time to end up hitting the wall still.
rhythmnsmoke 1 year ago
i like how ppl try to tell what the cause was as if their god... as far as i know the driver couldve done that on purpose because he hated his life and wanted to die.... so your all wrong
kayu38 1 year ago
It was the DSC that caused it, Stability Control, watch closesly, He is BARELY Countersteering, not enough for that, and it Still shifts to the other side, its the car trying to control itself and locking the driver out which caused it
Ayperos93 1 year ago
@Ayperos93 false. research the elise/exige. these cars dont even have power steering, why would they have stability control? there are no aids in this car.
bp240 1 year ago
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Is he drunk, or what?
duncaann 1 year ago
Oh man that was horrible
gawa1999 1 year ago
MX5 for the win!!! Nah seriously the elise is quicker, just more difficult to push hard.
dustziggy 1 year ago 15
@dustziggy "MX5 for the win!!! Nah seriously the elise is quicker, just more difficult to push hard." Not exactly true. It's only more difficult to push hard in the sense that it would be going much faster. At the same speed the Lotus is easier to drive because of light weight and superior suspension.
wd4000000 6 months ago
@wd4000000 Apparently not, looking at the video LOL
dustziggy 6 months ago
@dustziggy Oh I forgot. There are absolutely no videos of Mazdas crashing. And why does everybody have to "laugh out loud" when they're home alone and on the computer.
wd4000000 6 months ago
@wd4000000 What are you on about? haha. "Everybody" can say what they want, who do you think you are Mr communista, stop getting so upset. Your very defensive about the Lotus, Is anyone allowed to have a different opinion or do we all have to agree with you? This video is just a bit of fun, who cares which car is better. I'm sure there are plenty of mazda's crashing also.
dustziggy 6 months ago
@dustziggy What am I on about??? You came into a Lotus video and started talking about how great your cookie cutter Miata was. I don't know how that makes me a Communist but I do know how it makes you a major douchebag. Enjoy the Miata. My Aunt loves hers. In fact I think it's the choice of sporty Aunts everywhere. Later, jerkoff. Don't forget to laugh out loud.
wd4000000 6 months ago
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@wd4000000 LOL, your a joke. Firstly, the video is not a "Lotus video" its a car video. Secondly, I was kiddong that miata's are faster then the Lotus, which they ARE NOT. Thirdly, your a little shit, get over yourself, we are all here to have a laugh, not listen to defensive fan boys like you. Did I attack your favorite brand of car, awww diddums
dustziggy 6 months ago
Dude just got greedy after he spun the rears on exit. He hadn't fully gotten it corrected but kept gasing up. Overconfidence is a bitch. Very common, no suspension failure.
thekswervedirt 1 year ago
Lotus Elises and Exiges have a known problem with rear toe links breaking. If that happens the car becomes very unstable- looks like that's what we're seeing here.
aroundtheworls 1 year ago
Mazda guy was a better driver but the Elise owner didn't want to admit it; he should've yielded instead of try going faster than he was comfortable with.
SlyEvoIX 1 year ago
@SlyEvoIX
No body yields to a miata at the track, i know because i have one. no matter how closely you tail at them at the corner they will not wave you by. sometime the corner marshall will flag those moving road block
iam7head 1 year ago
looks like a broken toe link to me!
FireHawk1978 1 year ago
lotus?? isn't that a mazda badge on your steering wheel?
waferthin99 1 year ago
@waferthin99 Stupidity, isn't a crime, so you're free to go...
Pichi48 1 year ago
@Pichi48 HAHA ! I only jst relised at the end it wasent the car he was watching it :L AHAHA!! cant blame me I'm welsh! :L
waferthin99 1 year ago
i dunno looks like he's realy lost control.. i'm wondering what the problem could be. supspension error.. oke reasonable. but.. it just coult be that he could nog regain control due to driver error. who are whe to decide. one thing is for shore.. its a bloody shame.
TheLoader69 1 year ago
A small dab on the brakes usually stabilizes it
Makreel44 1 year ago
lol i like how he keeps going on
tag1989 1 year ago
no driving skills,amateur dont fuck with the cars !
Stanozololoxandrolo 1 year ago
ye looks like very bad suspension. looks like shocks is tooo soft right?
joprez 1 year ago
loser
insanebkr 1 year ago
What a shame, Looks like he lost it a bit and started to panic.
If you owned a car worth that much I'm sure you'd panic if you started to do the same.
With such a short wheelbase and high levels of grip I supect it was constantly sliding and gripping.
CJRamze 1 year ago
WTF he gained control of the car after all, but the second turn i guess he got over exited and wanted to try more???
Pauloemc 1 year ago
okay...
fgfgh5h 1 year ago
There is nothing overly wrong with the driving - the car is not braking - brake lights only come on as he approaches the wall. There is however definitely a fault with the car, my guess is the diff failed hence the fishtailing as the wheels get differing amounts of torque.
BeWiseNotCommon 1 year ago
That's what happens when you try too hard to make a low hp car drift.
black98rt 1 year ago
@black98rt low hp car? That's a light car and has a great amount of power coming from that engine! That ain't a low hp car...
lupuradu 1 year ago
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black98rt 1 year ago
@black98rt you are fucking retarded. keiichi tsuchiya the best drifter in the world does some of his best work with a 180hp corolla moron...
jewbag18 1 year ago
@jewbag18 Corolla has all the weight of the engine and trans up front. The Elise has all that weight in the back which gives it a lot better traction and makes it much more difficult to drift. Do I need to explain anything else to you?
black98rt 1 year ago
suspension failure my ass. Crap car - even crappier driver.
levanter1M 1 year ago
@levanter1M it is an english car, you should support your brand instead of spitting on them
jamecontent 1 year ago
@jamecontent I cant support rubbish - or substandard driving
levanter1M 1 year ago
@levanter1M we are awaiting the video of your skills - maybe we have something to learn from -
jamecontent 1 year ago
@jamecontent and who the fuck are you to judge - x-box hoodlum?
levanter1M 1 year ago
@jamecontent I don't judge, you seem to have an answer for everything so show us your car and your skills or give us information why an elise is a shit - maybe we have something to learn from you
jamecontent 1 year ago
@jamecontent its simple - everyone that owns one is a cunt
levanter1M 1 year ago
Mazda guy chuckles at the overpriced lotus fail.
paradigmats22 1 year ago
Foamy blocks are good at soft stops
rioross 1 year ago
Drifter wannabe? :))
Archjodler 1 year ago
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foooock 1 year ago
cocaine is a hell of a drug ....
xorbe 1 year ago
hahah dont konw how to counter steer! mouhahha
Julitroid 1 year ago
unlucky great cars
LeeSmithy06 1 year ago
wow serious tank slapper there at least they hit some nice padded box things and not concrete!
crazymotionride 1 year ago
Should have stopped after the first slide and taken a minute to relax!
Tjrosenberry 1 year ago
shit happens when you party naked.
TheSirVtec 1 year ago
dam ESP would soulve that so easy
69lol69 1 year ago
... my god!
virsunen2 1 year ago
yes crashes do happen but this guy did a shit job of trying to control the car
R32SKYLINEBWD 1 year ago
holy fuck!
Slipstream0001 1 year ago
glad the mazda servived!
iAmTimme 1 year ago
ouch...
rtsoccerplayer 1 year ago
to all the people who think crashes don't just happen, then how to you explain the hundreds of nascar, rally, dragster, indy, F1 etc....... crashes that happen every year? I suppose their all bad drivers too?
JDMGTP 1 year ago
I disagree with the 'crashes happen' comment. The driver lost control from 0:03 onwards. Instead of easing off after this happened, he tried to power through it but violently counter-steered over and over until eventually he was thrown into the barrier. Bad driving.
Dev1ner 1 year ago
@Dev1ner he also cutted off the throttle...and there's the wall coming!
MASTERCARDUZ 1 year ago
glad i got a 300hp impreza sti, 4wd ftw?
dontjepko 1 year ago
@dontjepko for some reason i doubt you have one. Sti's are AWD not 4WD. noob.
bonesdog101 1 year ago
@bonesdog101 AWD=4WD................... because the car has 4 wheels so 4wd is awd get it? AND NO NOT COUNTING THE SPARE TYRE. not even sure if i have one in it..
dontjepko 1 year ago
@dontjepko ACTUALLY 4WD and AWD are in fact different. 4WD is when the engine pushes all 4 whells equally mostly trucks have it. AWD have a differential where the back wheels usually do 60% of the work and the front tires do 40% of the work. Plus trucks that are 4WD can be taken out of 4WD while AWD vehichles are permanently AWD. You obviously know nothing about vehicles.
bonesdog101 1 year ago
@dontjepko You have runescape videos or some gay shit on your profile. I doubt you own an STI. Prove it and upload a video of you driving it.
grrfsrip 1 year ago
@grrfsrip Don't have my driverslisence yet.. 'Taking the exam 29th of july.. And yes i might upload some vids of it. no rush in it.. it's been sitting in the garage since 19th of february.. only got pics atm. ofcourse you won't be convinced since it could be anyone's STi.. and why hate on me? i bet you don't even have A car, and defenatly NO STi, since you already spelled it wrong..
dontjepko 1 year ago
@dontjepko Okay well I'm sorry I missed one letter. Also I never said I owned one. But you'd lose that bet because I do own a car. Bought it myself. But I'm selling it soon and looking at an Evolution VII I'm most likely going to buy. In addition. I wasn't hating, I was doubting.
grrfsrip 1 year ago
@dontjepko i bet your mommy and daddy bought it for you too right?
lasersdend15 1 year ago
@lasersdend15 Correct. 18th birthday present. YES it's 18 where i live -.-"
dontjepko 1 year ago
@dontjepko oh and AWD and 4WD is not the same... in case you didnt know. learn something why dont you and i bet you dont even know what makes the AWD on a Subaru so special and why its top of the line.
lasersdend15 1 year ago
@lasersdend15 If you would have read the comment of bonesdog101 you would have noticed he already explained it. I don't care what it makes so special, or if it's 4WD or AWD. I have a Subaru and i love it, beats most cars out there at trafficlights.. espicially the dumb Vw Golfs with the hardcore.. Most people can only dream of such a car, I got it in the garage. If you don't believe it, i don't really care. So dream on about having a Subaru or get one. Simple as that.
dontjepko 1 year ago
@dontjepko im saying you probably dont know what is so great about the subaru's AWD system, if you love them so much why dont your learn something, trust me they are my favorite cars, id laugh if you didnt even know what kind of engine it has.
lasersdend15 1 year ago
@dontjepko evo much better
nickster1318 1 year ago
@dontjepko its 17 where i live
nickster1318 1 year ago
@grrfsrip Thats awesome. No car vids, no driving vids, lonely internet game vids only. Wow. Anyone who lives in Subaru World could tell right off he more than likely Doesn't own an STi. Hang around STi drivers, and you'll almost never hear the word Impreza. I have a WRX. A friend of mine, an STi. The only time I have called my car an Impreza is when the police officer asked what the hell kind of car it was. Try either "my soobie" or "my WRX/STi". Pretty sure that goes for any proud Subaru owner.
kaoticrecoil2 1 year ago
I bet you an elise with a snapped rear toe link, is harder to control than your "450bhp skyline".
dift1 1 year ago
damn... he almost got it. poor car
jonysuave 1 year ago
all the people who call him idiot....you never drove in the race track, you probably dont even own a car! or have a license!...keyboard racers hahaha....
TheHayasa 1 year ago
wot an idiot driver couldnt control that little slide
junkersbunkers 2 years ago
@junkersbunkers Have you ever tried to hold on to a car with that much power in a slide? try it some time its not easy!
truckereb 1 year ago
@truckereb yes i hav 450 hp skyine its easy his was a litlle slide couldnt even control it he shouldnt be in a car if he cant control it
junkersbunkers 1 year ago
hahaha... ´what a idiot
MacStrong23 2 years ago
das war einfach ne Lusche ohne irgendeine Ahnung, wie man ein Auto kontrolliert. Gibts hier nur noch Luschenvideos?
alu57 2 years ago
This cars are hard to control when they get loose at the back couse mid engine. No suspension problem at all.
maurodanielsalgado 2 years ago 16
definitely not driver error. After the drift he had the car going straight until it started fish tailing again.
viktord1 2 years ago
PIO!!!
Pilot induced oscillation!
MadUek1 2 years ago 4
wtf was he playin at he controled the drift then spazes out into the side wot a mupet
stevtr86 2 years ago 3
na der im kamera auto is ja auch blind null riecher... das war doch abzusehen und du gibst noch gas und schlatest....
ingonumb 2 years ago
i was thinking of lotus elise myself but finally got a second hand boxter, same money.
elise. best handling car! lol
intintruder 2 years ago
@intintruder So you think your boxster outhandles? I guess one crash video with no verification is proof positive. Boxster is more lol than Elise. Chicks car for sure.
wd1000 2 years ago 2
@wd1000
sold it same price as bought and got a much cheaper s2000
intintruder 2 years ago
"possible suspension failure" - I think so too. Doesn't really look like driver error.
LotinElite 2 years ago 9
@LotinElite Like rear toe link. Inner mount breaks sometimes at awkward times.
wd1000 2 years ago 2
@LotinElite agreed-and like the other video, remember that lotus elise has has a short wheelbase mid engined layout, prone to extreme oversteer of not done correctly...
TheAudiTTfan 1 year ago
mid-engine car = keep your eyes on the nose cus if you loose it this is what happens... in other words he lost grip on the front end and this makes an illusion that if u keep steering u 'll achive smthing, but when the grip kicks in then u either have super reflections or a crashed car, at these situations expirienced drivers use the heel n tow teqnique= heel on gas (gently) and tow on brake(more gently) in order to loose more traction at the rear than the front... teq mastered by ayriton senna
Alroxi 2 years ago
I think you are referring to "heal and TOE"... there is no W in toe mate, and its a technique used to rev-match your downshifts while under breaking to have better acceleration on the exit of a corner... I don't see how that would have helped in this situation at all.
NateDawg80126 2 years ago
Good comment there NateDawg80126, Alroxi is a little confused to say the least:) But, heel and toe does not improve acceleration and is not used for or at corner exit. It is used in the way you explained but as a means of effectively preparing for corner entry. All it is is multi-tasking for smoother and cleaner corner entry.
05027802 2 years ago
I think he meant left foot braking, to control the delivery of power to the rear wheels.
Powerfull motorbikes use this as well, you use your rear brake on long curves to prevent the violent delivery of horsepower...
This guy didn´t have a suspension problem, he was all over the place and wrecked for loosing control on a healthy car.
dinoarellano 2 years ago
And there is no a in heel. Heel and toe. Learn it.
v8x 2 years ago
And i think you mean "HEEL and TOE" Sorry, couldn't resist
tomhodgson77 2 years ago
lol no
baalshin 2 years ago
@Alroxi You made up that whole paragraph didn't you?
TheArfdog 1 year ago
Steep off the gas, rear tires gain traction too fast and that happens if your aren't skilled enough...
XtremeDrift 2 years ago
Crashes happen, regardless of skill. Don't be so judgmental.
userq12q 2 years ago 27