Mit seinem hellen Bass sehr kultiviert gesungen. Die Arie fordert allerdings mehr Schwärze und ein anderes Timbre. Über diese stimmlichen Qualitäten verfügen Gotttlob Frick und Kurt Moll in weit stärkerem Maß.
Sarastro is not a bad guy, agree. But not so good as he thinks he is, either, imho.
We are used to the low E at the end--Pape declines to go there, and I'm sure he could but perhaps not so strongly as true bassi. He is a bass-baritone. the distinction is not so much profundo vs noble as the actual range of the instrument.
@KOProductionsUSA be completely sure about his voice, true bass even not cantabile. Two 3 days ago I was in his Don Carlo with Kaufmann, Halfvarson etc. at Bayerische Statsoper Munich. I was shocked with his voice, because his voice is not even similar to the voice in recordings like this.I used to be think the way like you that he is a bass baritone. However, he has got huge chesty bass voice penetrating over the orchestra. The recordings are tricky, don't trust them.
I love Pape (like, seriously. so much love), but this just strikes me as so weird and wrong. Anyone else? I feel like he's the classic Sprecher voice- rich pretty bass-baritone. But Sarastro? The settled, slightly grizzled, paternal, basso profundo Sarastro voice? I just don't hear it.
This is a nice young basso that I rather like. However, it always seems he is not projecting enough. Had a chance to see him in Salzburg as Sarastro, but I had a conflicting schedule. I wonder how he sounds live.
It seems to me that Rene Pape always "runs" behind the orchestra. The orchestra is a bit too loud (or Pape too quiet). So the harmony between the two is not so good.
But Pape sings beautifully. Rich and profound timbre. We surely hear him in those low F# and I like it.
It;s from Salzburg, 2006: Genia Kuhmeier as Pamina, Diana Damrau as Konigen der Nacht, Paul Groves as Tamino, Christian Gerhaher as Papageno. Riccardo Muti is the conductor.
Mit seinem hellen Bass sehr kultiviert gesungen. Die Arie fordert allerdings mehr Schwärze und ein anderes Timbre. Über diese stimmlichen Qualitäten verfügen Gotttlob Frick und Kurt Moll in weit stärkerem Maß.
OperusSuper 1 month ago
In dieser schwierigen Arie, die äußerste Reinheit und Klarheit erfordert eine der schönsten Stimmen und die bestmögliche Phrasierung.
Begeisternd!
MK40213 3 months ago
@KOProductionsUSA The original calls for him to go up to the E, not down. Following the original music.
webusch3 3 months ago
Hand. The final d's are spoken as t's.
Sarastro is not a bad guy, agree. But not so good as he thinks he is, either, imho.
We are used to the low E at the end--Pape declines to go there, and I'm sure he could but perhaps not so strongly as true bassi. He is a bass-baritone. the distinction is not so much profundo vs noble as the actual range of the instrument.
KOProductionsUSA 8 months ago
@KOProductionsUSA be completely sure about his voice, true bass even not cantabile. Two 3 days ago I was in his Don Carlo with Kaufmann, Halfvarson etc. at Bayerische Statsoper Munich. I was shocked with his voice, because his voice is not even similar to the voice in recordings like this.I used to be think the way like you that he is a bass baritone. However, he has got huge chesty bass voice penetrating over the orchestra. The recordings are tricky, don't trust them.
onaykk 3 weeks ago
@onaykk thank you I'll defer to your ear.
KOProductionsUSA 3 weeks ago
What means "Hanttt"?
sebarobissengo 8 months ago
mozart
jbxd8 1 year ago
I love Pape (like, seriously. so much love), but this just strikes me as so weird and wrong. Anyone else? I feel like he's the classic Sprecher voice- rich pretty bass-baritone. But Sarastro? The settled, slightly grizzled, paternal, basso profundo Sarastro voice? I just don't hear it.
lucyliesinashes 1 year ago
@lucyliesinashes Sarastro is not that profundo, he must have light in his voice, he's not a bad guy...
guimaul69 1 year ago 2
@guimaul69 Mmm, fair enough. It's still just really weird to my ear. *shrug*
lucyliesinashes 1 year ago
@guimaul69 He doesn't sing that low and goes above Middle C as well. Not a Basso Profundo at all.
I'm singing this now and I don't really have THAT lower voice. It only goes down to F# that is an octave and a half below Middle C.
Bigthingreg 11 months ago
He's expressive, but he can't touch Alexander Kipnis (1929).
AllanKohrman 2 years ago
He comes Dresden...))))
222mozart 2 years ago
Certified Intergalactic!
Dogaradodia 2 years ago 4
That soprano is Genia Kuemeier, btw
originalprofundo 3 years ago
Kühmeier, btw :)
twentyattempts 2 years ago
Quel immense artiste et surtout quel Sarastro sensationnel. Rares sont ceux qui peuvent prétendre à un tel niveau d'excellence dans ce rôle
luisamiller 3 years ago
This is a nice young basso that I rather like. However, it always seems he is not projecting enough. Had a chance to see him in Salzburg as Sarastro, but I had a conflicting schedule. I wonder how he sounds live.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
Live is absolutely wonderful. He fills the hall. I saw that performance in Salzburg and it was magical
pyriel987 2 years ago
It's dark concentrate metal that projects everywhere in a hall. He is not a "profundo", he is noble bass.
foropera 2 years ago 9
It seems to me that Rene Pape always "runs" behind the orchestra. The orchestra is a bit too loud (or Pape too quiet). So the harmony between the two is not so good.
But Pape sings beautifully. Rich and profound timbre. We surely hear him in those low F# and I like it.
jhvorotin 3 years ago
...that balance issue is just the way microphones are placed. Clearly not in a perfect way. In the hall it was perfect :)
twentyattempts 2 years ago
Sublime!!!
Daisy4dk 3 years ago 2
wow, one of the best voices I've ever heard.
Chilair1 3 years ago 2
superbe basse.
HenriMesquida 3 years ago 2
I wish they could put Mozart in a tablet.
hswatnik 3 years ago
who are the other in the cast? and the conductor?
hillevifan 3 years ago
It;s from Salzburg, 2006: Genia Kuhmeier as Pamina, Diana Damrau as Konigen der Nacht, Paul Groves as Tamino, Christian Gerhaher as Papageno. Riccardo Muti is the conductor.
JBL228 3 years ago
I don't think that this performance is from 2006, but you can find the one from 2006 on youtube too.
Ethratian 3 years ago
You are absolutely right. I confused the productions.
JBL228 3 years ago