MISSISSAUGA CITY HALL SKATEBOARDING (painting)

[ELEMENTFAN4EVER]

man now its under construcktion by march if its gona be done its gona be filled with skaters :P

[MelonManMedia]

Y'all should check that park by the sculptures. It's not bad. Nice morning sesh's.

If any of you are interested, my channel shows all local street spots and park. Also alot of the locals skating.

Later!

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

For anyone reading this, it's true. Check out MelonManMedia's for tour summaries of local skate spots.

The only thing I'd caution all skaters about is if you are using City of Mississauga parks, be EXTREMELY careful about the City's security guards. I've been researching them through Freedom of Information since January 2007 and it's disgraceful what they do to youth.

If approached by them, turn on your cells! When told to leave, do so immediately. Record, the guard's number too. Can't hurt.

[fostography]

it seems as if you are threatening people in your responses. The painting was very effecive considering all the emotions and words it has brought up. i would never have seen his paining if you didnt ridicule it.

question- who is the artist? he may have somehing to say abou this and/or some copyright issues.

last question- what are you realy securing?

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi fostography,

You wrote, "it seems as if you are threatening people in your responses". Oh really. Please explain why you've concluded that my responses are "threatening people".

The artist and me actually had it out in my Blog. You might find his name by Googling "Allegory of Good Government" because that's what he named the thing.

To be clear, and here's the truth.

I'd have had ZERO problem with this painting had he called it "60 Seconds Before Being Banned 30 Days".

[fostography]

quesion - do you think the artist was looking at the correlation or hypocracy of a guard kicking out a skater and not he woman in the wheel-chair? give it some thought before your answer. there is no need to answer any of these questions with a ho head. you should have given consructive criicism, and not bad mouthed the paining.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi again fostography,

I've given this painting tons of thought and am a bit of an artist myself. Studied it at university --even taught it.

I'm sure you know about propaganda paintings. Paintings from the 30-40's showing the glory of German supremity. Soviet glory paintings... etc

That's what you're looking at here. The painting was created for display --in a government Art Show.

I could do a terrific painting of four skaters arrested by two guards at City Hall. Think that would hang?

[fostography]

people outside of hawaii surf and skateboard. there was no mention of snowboarding ect.. i hope you had a good vacation when you saw skaters and surfers and saw a sea turtle in a pool.

so it appears hat you ook grea offence to this paining because it is your job to keep people from skating there. it seems you took these comments personally as well.

question- did the anger and resentmen affect he way you have since delt with skaters as a guard?

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi fostography,

Actually I took great offense to this painting because it's a LIE. It creates the impression that skaters are welcome to skate off those City Hall steps. Any skater doing that would be told to LEAVE.

Next, I am not a City of Mississauga Security guard --I am RESEARCHING them. Freedom of Information has confirmed that they ban kids as young as 9/10 and my particular interest is how they treat skateboarders.

I have a HUGE problem with these guards' treatment of youth! HUGE!

[hiddenagenda420]

Sorry to break it to you, but the security gaurds usually only ticket people who are being assholes to them. I've been kicked out of city hall for skating MANY times with no tickets or court dates to show. They know we aren't causing harm to anyone! Maybe you are lacking fun in your life and forgot what it feels like to be FREE and not held down by so many restrictions!

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi hiddenagenda20,

You say "I've been kicked out of city hall for skating MANY times with no tickets or court dates to show".

Really!

Three questions. How old are you and second, are your parents rich?

Why do you think these guards would kick out a 9/10 year old girl from the Civic Centre and ban her from the CC, Central Library and also the Living Arts Centre for 30 days.

And you getting to do banned repeatedly "MANY times" get nothing?

[hiddenagenda420]

Just so you know MississaugaWatch, most of us commenting have REAL LIFE experience dealing with these security gaurds...we are not like you hiding behind a lens and making guesses of what WILL happen if we get caught.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi hiddenagenda420, I filed Freedom of Information and secured City of Mississauga Corporate Security "Special Occurrence Reports" and know EXACTLY what happens to skateboarders.

Security guards ban them and write up whatever the F*** they feel like about kids.

And the City KEEPS those personal records on kids in their database.

So. If you've had "REAL LIFE experience" with this unaccountable quasi-fascist knob-force you'll need to file Freedom of Information to see what they have on YOU!

[JeffTheCanuck2]

Wow, heavy crime area. No hand guns, no corrupt LAPD, no AK47s, no police helicopters twice a night, no bloods or crypts, no illegal mexicans breaking into your car, no police chases daily, no murder every twenty minutes.

Kids on skateboards are criminals.

And some paint unlawful art.

Only in pussasauga

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

hI JeffTheCanuck2.

Sadly it's even "worse" than that.. I've been researching the City of Mississauga's Security guards!

You'd be amazed at the number of kids who these guards have banned for "skateboarding". Kids as young as 11/12.

And kids as young as 12/13 ARRESTED at that skateboard area.

Skateboarders better be very careful around those Mississauga City Security guards! Those guards can change kids' lives for the WORSE!

You won't BELIEVE what they write about people in their "records"!

[JeffTheCanuck2]

I was one of those kids back in the day.

We used to skate INSIDE square 1, in the 70's. We used to escape the guards through those secret tunnels behind the stores and jump on a bus for -15 cents- back then.

The only future we have is through our offspring, yet money is spent foolishly invading other countries with them or chasing younger ones on skateboards.

I believe that painting was politcal satire.

Andy Warhol is smiling from above.

~Peace

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi JeffTheCanuck2,

To be clear. The security guards at Square 1 aren't the problem! If a Square 1 Security guard gets physically abuses a skater, that kid (or parent) can file a formal complaint TO THE PROVINCE for investigation.

That kid gets roughed up by a City of Mississauga Security guard at the Civic Centre skate plaza, they're limited to City Security investigating the conduct of its own guards.

Freedom of Information has shown NO youth/minor to ever complain against guards.

Peace2U2

[JeffTheCanuck2]

Ah, I didn't realize the line of demarcation between the two security branches. I'm glad to hear one is more tolerant than the other.

Regarding your research, you may find the documentary film: Dogtown and Z-Boys useful. Narrated by Shaun Penn.

I find that painting to be fascinating.

Especially the woman in the wheelchair, which defines a mobility device as well.

Thanks for sharing.

[PuneetHeer23]

skatings awesome dont try and take that away from us

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Skateboarding really is 'awesome". I'm currently researching the Skate culture (both Urban and West Coast) skateboarders at the highest level are every bit the athlete as those of others sports. (in some cases even more).

I hope one day to see skateboarding as an Olympic Sport.

The purpose of this video was to warn skaters (and kids in general) about the Mississauga City Hall security guards.

You see that's the other thing I'm researching. The bans and arrests issued by these guards to YOUTH.

[AboveX321]

Heres how you solve this problem...

MAKE A SKATE PARK IN THE SQUARE ONE AREA! skaters are happy & the city is happy...

its a win-win situation.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi AboveX321,

Considering the number of skateboarders who've been banned from Mississauga City Hall (I secured the City records through Freedom of Information) skateboarders are much better off over at Square One.

I agree absolutely.

For one thing, if anyone were to "brush" iwth security guards, Square One security guards are regulated by the Province.

City of Mississauga security guards aren't

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

ANNOUNCEMENT. MISSISSAUGAWATCH secured Freedom of Information (FOI) records on the number of people banned/trespass/arrested at the Mississauga Civic Centre.

FOI records confirm that a minimum of 22 Youth were banned from Mississauga City Hall property for skateboarding-related offences.

22 skaters (as young as 12) were banned for "Skateboarding -disturbance".

Two skaters were banned for 365 days, much longer than many banned "Drugs" and "Liquor".

MISSISSAUGAWATCH

2009/01/16

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

These records are from January 2006 to present and do not include "informal" bans by Mississauga Corporate Security guards which don't have to be entered into the records.

In addition, a quick scan shows 8 Trespass-bans and 2 Arrests both for "Trespass" (which could be skaters attempting to return)

MISSISSAUGAWATCH

2009/01/16

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi zonybenvid,

I watched your videos, especially your guitar ones. People like you will always be ridiculed because you value what George Orwell referred to as "ownself" As long as you dress and behave outside the mainstream, you're a target for knobs. You're right. This is NOT a free country. Government has perfected one hell of an ILLUSION of freedom and most buy in to the lie. And again, correct, Society prefers "straight clean cut automaton slaves". I fear you can't fight BIG BROTHER...

[zonybenvid]

thank you, for further up keeping a world where the people who do what they love, are ridiculed for not being straight clean cut automaton slaves to the wage. I honestly mean it, thank you, it's inspiring to know people still create such a challenge for the free thinking, free living. "so you call this your free country, tell me why it costs so much to live"

[filmde]

i like turtles

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

filmde,

Had a very quick peek at your YouTube site. A skater who likes turtles.

I dive with sea turtles.

On Maui, I watched the skateboarders do their crazy stuff on this Lahaina tennis court. Many skate with a surfboard tucked under an arm.

Here's my wish for you, filmde. That you go to Lahaina, Maui, and skateboard with the locals opposite the Kameha iki Park.

And you're a skater so surfing should be easy. Surf with the HONU! (Honu is Hawaiian for green sea turtle) Aloha.

[ydnaRPlourde]

your a fagget for putting this video on this isnt gonna do shit all this did was make you look like a fool get a life

p.s why don't you go hit a nice bowl of pot with those kids over there your a fool for ignoring that but then start complaining about skating again so.. ya your super gay

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Normally I won't publish hateful discriminatory messages but I want people to see what skaters are like. You're such a moron that 1: you think "gay" is something you insult people with and b: you're so stupid you write "fagget".

Then there's the moronic "Get a life" -Get something resembling a brain.

Last. I was NOT about to report those pot smokers any more than I'd report a skater who was violating the city hall's NO SKATEBOARDING signs.

I know what their security DO to kids.

[wordhype]

No lady your views are skewed. You show complete apathy towards the potheads trespassing on the property in your video loosing brain cells. However you would jump off your high horse if you saw someone with a skateboard, getting enjoyment out of living life. Sad

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

wordhype, first off the "potheads" aren't trespassing. You can't be charged with trespassing until you've been given a ticket (banned) for not leaving City Hall property when ordered to do so. If you're banned and you return before your ban is up, THEN you're charged with trespass. Again, a skater enjoying boarding at the designated "Skate Plaza" can do as he pleases. He skates anywhere else, he's vulnerable to having a heart-to-heart with a guard. If the kid lipped off?...

[fostography]

ok, so your didnt kick out the stoners because there are no signs that say "no pot smoking"; only "no skateboarding"

there are also no signs saying "no prostitution" or "no rape allowed" but im sure you would get involved with those situations.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

fostography, you didn't read my comments, did you? I TOLD YOU, I'm not a security guard! Also, it's totally absurd of you to compare smoking pot and prostitution to rape.

The first two are consenual. The latter ASSAULT.

[wordhype]

Listen lasy,

It was obvious in your video that you were apathetic towards the pot smokers, laughed a little, a showed no sign of care towards them. BUT you would get off your high horse if you saw someone on the property with a skateboard. Your views are very skewed.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi again. Agreed, I found the potters funny. That city hall has so many video surveillance cameras, not to mention signs and rules. Two sophisticated Pelco PTZ's aimed at the front civic square. And there, unconcerned, tucked where the cams can't penetrate weed triumphed.

I'd have laughed if skaters were tucked under that same roof doing tricks.

Someone wrote earlier saying make all the signs you want, you can't make us follow them. It's perfectly true. Same with graffiti for that matter.

[wordhype]

Are you serious? So your saying that it is OK to trespass on that property to get high, and smoking drugs, rather than skateboard? Your fucking ridiculous, if you think that.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

wordhype:

Are you serious? So your saying that you interpreted that video or what I wrote as me believing "that it is OK to trespass on that property to get high, and smoking drugs, rather than skateboard?"

You're not on the whackeeweed right now are you?

[r0wboat]

that was a hardflip revert you stupid stuck up bitch

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

r0wboat. Those skating terms I used in the video, I Googled, "skateboard terms" and selected the coolest-sounding half dozen. Clearly you didn't notice that I even make up one (Kamekaze). Think of the video as "Allegory to Skate Terms".

[BREAKINtheLAWSKATE]

well you were way off and made a complete ass of yourself trying. stay away from skateboarding and anything skateboard related

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Actually BREAKINtheLAWSKATE, I usually deal with surfers and windsurfers but after this set of exchanges skaters are now of interest to me. joey223 sent me the remarkable question, "how is minimum wage working out for you" and I gave him my best HAHAHHAHAHA.. This morning however, it occurred to me just how hurtful that would be to somoene who really did make minimum wage. It was then I wondered what kind of woman could crap out a turd like joey223. Now stakeboarding is a new line of research.

[BREAKINtheLAWSKATE]

to be able to understand the very first thing about skateboarding, you have to ride one. after that, it takes years of developing what it means to you as an individual. dont waste your time researching it, just hate on it like the rest of your generation already does. we dont care. its just when people, who obviously know nothing about it, make videos like this it really irritates us. that explains all this vulgar feedback youre getting.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Your comment, "to be able to understand the very first thing about skateboarding, you have to ride one. after that, it takes years of developing what it means to you as an individual" is exactly what surfers will tell you. It's unfortunate though that you interpreted this video as me "hating" skateboarding. In Hawaii many of the surfers are also skaters and in Lahaina on Saturdays they skate on a tennis court there, bringing in their own ramps. Very different skate "culture". Aloha.

[CBMK17]

Do you actually think because there is a sign posted that people give a shit? What world are you living in?

You must think a skateboard is like a hulla-hoop.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hey, the people who put up the sign gave enough of a shit to pay for the sign out of your (and my) taxes. And the people who put up the sign do NOT give a shit WHAT you think. In fact, I happen to know they refer to you as "shitheads" or "SH" for short.

Now I can see why.

[nousernamesleftyay]

I'm not sure if you know anything at all about art history, but the word "allegory" especially with regards to art indicates a sort of double meaning. I'm guessing that the "allegory" in this case is that IF the government would allow skateboarding on those steps that they would indeed, be "good". The artist hasn't said it's legal to skate there, you've just misinterpreted the word, which, given your chosen profession and demonstrated vocabulary in this video, isn't at all surprising.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Actually I know quite a bit about art history. Now I don't know what you know about allegory but just a quick Google turned up, " J. R. R. Tolkien's emphatic statement in the introduction to the second edition "It is neither allegorical nor topical....I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence."

Question, Brite Light. what's my "chosen profession"?

[nousernamesleftyay]

You keep saying that the painting is "false advertising" While you might not like allegory in any of it's manifestations, much like Mr. Tolkien was, you must be living in some far-flung fantasy world not to see the implied double meaning. Stop googling definitions and citing the rule-book. While you may think that you're "warning" skaters you forget that we've been dealing with shitty government and know-it-all super-citizens for longer than those no skateboarding signs have been up for.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

nousernamesleftyay

CONGRATULATIONS. You are the last person to comment on this video. Comments are now closed because I've wasted far too much of my time dealing with bad skaters.

I say "bad" because clearly, you've all had far too many direct spills to your heads.

The painting IS "false advertising" because of the title research through Freedom of Information makes "Allegory to Good Government" an offensive JOKE.

You write about "know-it-all-citizens" You know ZIP. WEAR A HELMET

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

"spending money on losers like you to protect an cement(a non living thing)."

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAA... OH I LOVE IT!

As for your other comment, "get an education you fat bitch"

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAA... I'd call you a FAT head only I don't think you ever came equipped with one.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi DannnB,

I don't give a shit about those dudes getting high because I truly don't give a shit about those dudes getting high. I don't consider it a big deal. And I wouldn't kick boarders off the property, that's the job of Mississauga Corporate Security guards.

I just think that painting sucked is all because it's so misleading. A skater skating at that spot would have his ass in a sling. Minus a board.

[Devin13]

this really bothers you that much?

but yet people smoking weed is fine.

good message to send to kids. i guess i'll put down my skateboard and pick up some drugs.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Nah, none of this bothers me. What bothered me was the silly painting title, "Allegory of Good Government".

For the record, the three who were smoking weed weren't "kids". What I found amusing was Mississauga city hall bristles with video surveillance cameras and what I found such a lark was how easily those three just tucked themselves under some roofing and that's all it took.

I agree. That's quite the message... BIG BROTHER can't see All.

[BREAKINtheLAWSKATE]

Great video!!!!!!

That set looks soooooo butter, cant wait to skate it. I hope i can skate away before those medelling security guards confiSKATE me rotmfflmmfaozZzZ!!!

horray for weed and paintings!

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Huhhn. Funny. The feedback that I've gotten from skaters is that the City Hall skate plaza is pretty lame.

'course if you want excitement, try those STEPS! :-)

[CBMK17]

If that is your point you are out in left field. Its a painting it is not a photograph. You shouldn't make fun of peoples art cause it isn't a perfect depiction of what you think it should be.

Skateboarding is not a crime.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

The painting's title is "Allegory to Good Government". And dude, you do what that skater did in that painting and you've committed a crime.

Mouth off to the guards and --enjoy court.

[CBMK17]

Its a painting not a picture. I think you have to much time on your hands. I have skated city hall since it was built. My tax dollars helped pay for it, I believe I should get to use it, even if I use it for something it was intended for. A trespassing ticket can easily be fought in court and won. Most cops don't show up for those little things so it will get thrown out.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

CONGRATS. This is the stupidest comment I've ever had especially, "A trespassing ticket can easily be fought in court and won." Feel free to trick skate off those steps like in that silly painting. Enjoy. And when a guard comes to boot you, tell him that your "tax dollars helped pay for it" and that you believe you should get to use it.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA... chump.

[CBMK17]

I have already had a trespassing ticket. It went to court and I walked. Experience speaks for itself. For all you know my name is Frank Jones.

I will be sure to send you a photo from one of the skate mags of a trick down those stairs. Then you can make a video of that too.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

CBMK17, Thanks for writing. To be clear. You're telling me you got a trespass ticket from Mississauga City Hall and you fought it and "walked".

Please, tell your fellow skaters more. Because I know of others not so lucky.

[CBMK17]

What is this communist china? It's a painting not a photograph. Perhaps you should find something more constructive to do with your time? After all you are an adult and worrying about where children or kids may play isn't something you should be wasting time on, not to mention making yourself look like the neighborhood watch who has taken it a step to far.

It's 2008 not 1958 get a grip and leave the kids alone.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

I've been researching bans, trespass and especially arrests on municipal properties (parks, city halls). I've got "tags" right here showing skaters/kids banned as young as 13 from a local city hall. Just like that.

Suggestion for something constructive with YOUR time. Research bans and arrests of youth by SECURITY GUARDS.

[CBMK17]

Propanganda??? Where are we communist China?

Its a painting, not a photograph. I have skated city hall since the day they started building it.

You can pass as many bylaws as you want, we are still going to skate there. If you want to give CHILDREN tickets for playing, we will teach them to stand up for their rights and take it to court.

Maybe you want to start a better community program that actually does something constructive for the community? Just a thought!!!

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hey, as long as you're skating at the skate plaza (NE corner of city hall) you're fine. Go anywhere else on the property and you're chancing being instructed to limit your skating to the designated area. Argue, and you risk banning. Argue more and lose your board. Read the sign. Here's a thought for you. You better teach your children that they don't HAVE RIGHTS if there's a by-law that says you don't.

Feel free to test your skating rights outside that NE side plaza. And of course -court.

[losmylos]

I think what bulbus was trying to say is that: A) don't pretend like you have any knowledge of skateboarding. You don't.

B) "Those dudes over there, they ain't smokin' tobacco I can tell you that." Isn't it more of a crime to be getting high then it is to roll around on concrete? Is this really this biggest deal? Do you feel compelled to go on the internet and make a video about those "no-good teenagers". Get a job.

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hilosmylos,

I don't pretend to have knowledge of skateboarding -only what would happen to any boarder who'd try a stunt on those steps is all. And absolutely, those dudes were smoking weed because I would smell the stuff. You're reading me wrong. I don't think of them as "no-good teenagers". They cracked me up. Proved to me no matter how many video surveillance cameras Mississauga city hall has dedicated tokers find a way. I respect their tenacity. As for "Get a job", get ORIGINAL.

[bulbasuar]

What is the point of this?

[MISSISSAUGAWATCH]

Hi bulbasuar. The point is that the painting, called "Allegory of Good Government" is propanganda and false at that. Kids aren't allowed to skate on those steps at Mississauga City Hall. There's even a sign that says that the security guards there can confiscate your boards! Some kid seeing this silly painting and then tripping it over to those city hall steps and --he can lose his frikkin' board! The purpose is to warn skaters --and even trick bikers.

Take care.