@benthejrporter That's because the cabins WERE more comfortable than the ones on modern airliners and the seats WERE MUCH wider!!! Modern airliners are nothing but flying sardine cans!!!
I remember the 1960s and 70s were a wonderful era for air travel. This is what "SERVICE" once looked like. Airlines competed for business by how well they looked after you. Today it's about cost and profit. We'll never see the like of such days when flying was something special like this. It's a low-cost cattle shuttle industry now with all that gracious service thrown away. Club and Business Class are still not as good today. Very sad really.
As you might expect for that era a rather formal atmosphere in the cockpit I would say, you certainly know who is the boss on that flight deck, yes sir, no sir. Todays informal approach to crew resource management a good thing or not I wonder!
Yes the thrill, anticipation of jet travel in the 60s difficult to explain liking anticipating a flight to the moon. class, sophistication, panache the impact on an impressionable 14 year old travelling alone. However a price to be paid. I would not now be travelling home by liner my 1st love. Liner I say not to be confused with the Orwellian prison ships that pass for them now. And as I stepped onto the open mobile stairway the world was never the same again
VC 10 Dec 1966 As a lad of 14 I flew an overnight flight on a VC10 Nairobi to London. Once dinner was over I was allowed up to the flight deck and sat in the co-pilots seat for hours gazing at the amazing stars and the pitch black of Africa below smoking and sipping whisky chatting with the pilot about the joys of international jet travel only relinquishing my seat was we approached Italy seeing the lights of Rome, Naples. My love affair with jet travel began that night.. a different world
Don't I know that feeling oh too well. Mine happened to be a United DC-8 though. It pains me that I cannot share with the youth the way pilots shared with me in my young days today. It is a shame really. A totally diffrent world.
now, we can't smoke, the drinks aren't even enough to drawn a mosquito, and we are served sandwiches that looked like that the air hostesses have been sat on them.
No i don't think so, those only came in when there were accidents due to these issues...i mean there is no issue if there is no accident so it was learning from accidents and making it so they are avoided in the future....sad but thats how the world works
I think the 707 did have a type of GPWS, but not like the ones of today
Airliners today compared to the 1960s...unrecognisable in terms of safety features.
Yes, both the Boeing 707 and Douglas DC-8 engine start sequence was 3-4-2-1. Neither the 707 or DC-8 had APU's so #3 was started first so that a generator was put on line for electrical power. The ground power and air start could be pulled, and other ground equipment pulled while starting the remaining engines.
Observe the happy relaxed passengers with the extraordinary legroom and contrast with many of the hideously cramped aircraft today with stressed, hot, and cramped passengers. How far we've come.
Captain had a sun tan. Maybe just back from a layover in the sun. First officer sounds like he is from Manchester area. Probably did not get along with the skipper. Must have been a pain having the flight filmed for all the crew. Notice the construction at Heathrow. 1963 .Anyone know the crew ?
@Spiv62 The FO is the only person who doesn't sound like Mary Poppins, presumably because they couldn't replace him with an actor. Even then he doesn't exactly sound like working class!
Did they really retract flaps at 400 ft? Somewhere in there I thought I heard "Flaps 20, 400 feet" A takeoff flap setting of more than 20 degrees and changing configuration seconds after takeoff - that cant be can it?
Honest? Thanks very much for the answer. Do you know the procedures they had to do for an engine fail just after V1 at such weights? Id be grateful if you post them!
The comet probably wasn't featured as aircraft like the VC-10 and 707 were far more favored by the airlines. The Comet just wasn't what they wanted anymore, and thier operation of it was limited to the less important routes.
they used the Comet 4 on long, thin routes to Africa and Australia. Australia definitely wasn't a less important route for BOAC. It was operated paralell to 707-436's
God, it's amazing how things have changed in the modern crew environment...you'd NEVER find all that now lol (an obviously stern Captain whose addressed as 'sir' etc! The captain is a WWII vet - notice all his military bars below his wings? You've got to LOVE the formal register in which they spoke back then though lol, 'BTW Neirv, check the beacon cross at 31 tharrsand ft will yoou - jarst incase 35 tharrsand is an-available to arz...' (Mis-spelt for emphasis btw!) BRILLIANT stuff! ;-))
Oh and BTW the F/O pilot (to the left of the captain) is also a WWII vet - he also has his bars below his wings...Nearly all the captains and F/Os were WWII vets in those days (F/Os to until the first graduates started getting churned out of the then new Hamble College of Air Training)...
air lingus had a 707 that ended up at lgw it was called spread legs its still flying i bet .
brighthelmjacks 2 days ago
v1, v2 had to be manually announced....
Poyekali 1 month ago
A beautiful film! and people speaking the Queen's English too!
funnyminky 1 month ago
This video is one of the best 707 videos I've watched. It gives you a taste of the sixties as well. A bygone era.
fernando365493 3 months ago
@benthejrporter That's because the cabins WERE more comfortable than the ones on modern airliners and the seats WERE MUCH wider!!! Modern airliners are nothing but flying sardine cans!!!
ford9572 4 months ago
@ford9572 The 707 has the same fuselage diameter as the 757 & 737, if the seats were "much wider" there would be no aisle !
There was however usually more pitch.
MrSuniman 2 months ago
The cabin looks more comfortable than ones on modern airliners. The seats look wider.
benthejrporter 4 months ago
Everything is just beautiful. The airhostesses in particular.
TheSelectFew1 4 months ago
The captain looks like lucas off little britain, and come fly with me.
EinkOLED 7 months ago
Only my opinion, but the Boeing 707 is the ULTIMATE CLASSIC OF ALL TIME.
hootenzie 7 months ago
I remember the 1960s and 70s were a wonderful era for air travel. This is what "SERVICE" once looked like. Airlines competed for business by how well they looked after you. Today it's about cost and profit. We'll never see the like of such days when flying was something special like this. It's a low-cost cattle shuttle industry now with all that gracious service thrown away. Club and Business Class are still not as good today. Very sad really.
Simona050 8 months ago
love the shot of terminal 3 (i think) being built.... nothing changed there Heathrow is still a construction site. lol.
Would have loved to travel back then, travelling really was something special. 9/11 and Ryanair have ruined the flying experience.
cdgh99 8 months ago
Now that was a way to run an airline!
Psycho9263 9 months ago
cattle class back then had as much seat room as business class on todays craft, i'm guessing the service was as good as well lol
Mr2pint 9 months ago
As you might expect for that era a rather formal atmosphere in the cockpit I would say, you certainly know who is the boss on that flight deck, yes sir, no sir. Todays informal approach to crew resource management a good thing or not I wonder!
timber733 9 months ago
great whizzing dials
real posh accents of the era
a world away from todays democracy of travel
"100 knots Sir" " I have control" priceless
baconsplace 1 year ago
@baconsplace I wish I was called Sir with V1 call :-)
B747jj 7 months ago
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baconsplace 1 year ago
great video...imagine being shown to your seat these dyas !!!
fordlandau 1 year ago
@fordlandau .. yes, boarding would take quite a time!
82648947 1 year ago
John Travolta owns a 707
Psycho9263 1 year ago 2
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love this video golden days of the 707 love this gracious jet.
how the world of jet travel has changed since then
blingwatch 1 year ago
love this video golden days of the 707 love this gracious jet.
how the world of jet travel has changed since then
blingwatch 1 year ago
@blingwatch
yep they don't crash every five minutes
donnyab 1 year ago
The Boeing 707 was the best of that era. I was on several Pan American 707s in 1963.
davidLw15 1 year ago
During the 60's,smoking is allowed onboard.
airbusmanic380 1 year ago
Smoking in flight?!!! They are even willing to serve cigarettes.
drav1dan 1 year ago
I like the sound of the engine starting
egreene27 2 years ago 2
I love the BOAC styling on the cowlings!
uru86 2 years ago 6
Yes the thrill, anticipation of jet travel in the 60s difficult to explain liking anticipating a flight to the moon. class, sophistication, panache the impact on an impressionable 14 year old travelling alone. However a price to be paid. I would not now be travelling home by liner my 1st love. Liner I say not to be confused with the Orwellian prison ships that pass for them now. And as I stepped onto the open mobile stairway the world was never the same again
MartinIDavies 2 years ago 3
VC 10 Dec 1966 As a lad of 14 I flew an overnight flight on a VC10 Nairobi to London. Once dinner was over I was allowed up to the flight deck and sat in the co-pilots seat for hours gazing at the amazing stars and the pitch black of Africa below smoking and sipping whisky chatting with the pilot about the joys of international jet travel only relinquishing my seat was we approached Italy seeing the lights of Rome, Naples. My love affair with jet travel began that night.. a different world
MartinIDavies 2 years ago 2
Don't I know that feeling oh too well. Mine happened to be a United DC-8 though. It pains me that I cannot share with the youth the way pilots shared with me in my young days today. It is a shame really. A totally diffrent world.
Learjetjock 2 years ago
Did you see that pretty flight attendant? I haven't seen one of those in 15 years!
473271 2 years ago
Cocktails, lunch and afternoon tea. Cigarettes and drinks you may require. How wonderfull.
bules72 2 years ago 13
now, we can't smoke, the drinks aren't even enough to drawn a mosquito, and we are served sandwiches that looked like that the air hostesses have been sat on them.
gentil79 8 months ago
did these aircraft have GPWS or TCAS? can anyone throw some light?
vdsingh8 2 years ago
No i don't think so, those only came in when there were accidents due to these issues...i mean there is no issue if there is no accident so it was learning from accidents and making it so they are avoided in the future....sad but thats how the world works
I think the 707 did have a type of GPWS, but not like the ones of today
Airliners today compared to the 1960s...unrecognisable in terms of safety features.
AngloPatriot 2 years ago
nope.
carl7ritchie 2 years ago
Yes, both the Boeing 707 and Douglas DC-8 engine start sequence was 3-4-2-1. Neither the 707 or DC-8 had APU's so #3 was started first so that a generator was put on line for electrical power. The ground power and air start could be pulled, and other ground equipment pulled while starting the remaining engines.
Thanks Krosky for posting this, It's a treat!
wmmurdoch 2 years ago
Thanks for this mate, brilliant video.
Observe the happy relaxed passengers with the extraordinary legroom and contrast with many of the hideously cramped aircraft today with stressed, hot, and cramped passengers. How far we've come.
DaveWBedford 2 years ago
Wow...was that the engine starting sequence for the 707? 3-4-2-1?
Great vid!
musico81986 2 years ago
Captain had a sun tan. Maybe just back from a layover in the sun. First officer sounds like he is from Manchester area. Probably did not get along with the skipper. Must have been a pain having the flight filmed for all the crew. Notice the construction at Heathrow. 1963 .Anyone know the crew ?
Spiv62 2 years ago
@Spiv62 The FO is the only person who doesn't sound like Mary Poppins, presumably because they couldn't replace him with an actor. Even then he doesn't exactly sound like working class!
ckyliu 2 years ago
No way! They wouldn't be standing there at 0:25 as the wing passes overhead.
thibaulthalpern 2 years ago
wow smoking on a plan lol
LucMeilleur1993 2 years ago
WOW!!! Great video!! I haven't seen such a detailed take off and flight video of a 707!! Gotta love these beautiful old birds. Thanks for posting!!!
willyboi708 2 years ago
This is so cool, pure nostalgia!
sniffypigster 2 years ago
these were the good old days wher they actually cared about u. now its how many people you can cram in for the biggest profit
valleyman20 2 years ago
Did they really retract flaps at 400 ft? Somewhere in there I thought I heard "Flaps 20, 400 feet" A takeoff flap setting of more than 20 degrees and changing configuration seconds after takeoff - that cant be can it?
festusthefiend 2 years ago
Yes because the acceleration phase of an engine out situation is segment 3, - 400ft
reversethrustset 2 years ago
Honest? Thanks very much for the answer. Do you know the procedures they had to do for an engine fail just after V1 at such weights? Id be grateful if you post them!
festusthefiend 2 years ago
Where's the Comet 4???
MerleOberon 2 years ago
The Comet 4 didn't exist at the time.
qwertdr 2 years ago
BOAC flew Comet 4's from 1958 till 1965
MerleOberon 2 years ago
Sorry, I kept thinking this was 1953! When it's actually '63.
qwertdr 2 years ago
No sorry, i got the years mixed up.
The comet probably wasn't featured as aircraft like the VC-10 and 707 were far more favored by the airlines. The Comet just wasn't what they wanted anymore, and thier operation of it was limited to the less important routes.
qwertdr 2 years ago
they used the Comet 4 on long, thin routes to Africa and Australia. Australia definitely wasn't a less important route for BOAC. It was operated paralell to 707-436's
virginbluedude 2 years ago
Yep, all the mystique & privilage of flying has gone now, & instead is now sanitised, generalised & about as bland as buying a fast food burger.
xoio 2 years ago
@xoio and cheaper, huge volumes of passangers..in the 1960 only a few had the money to travel by air. Mostly businessmen and wealthy people.
am1966ath 1 year ago
A friend of mine who is an american would runaway if he would hear british english. Long life British English (better than AE)
lindenbeck 3 years ago
Ummm, no. I like BE, but American english is better.
AmericanAirlinesRule 2 years ago
The US has destroyed the English language.
qwertdr 2 years ago
I joine BOAC in 1969 and yes, it was just like this, and yes, air travel did have some class.
sirvisto68 3 years ago
is it true they didn't arm the aircrafts doors before flight in those days?
virginbluedude 2 years ago
Back in the days when air travel had some class.
mrblujet 3 years ago
7:21
Very close to a Bird Strike!
fantasticministry 3 years ago 2
God, it's amazing how things have changed in the modern crew environment...you'd NEVER find all that now lol (an obviously stern Captain whose addressed as 'sir' etc! The captain is a WWII vet - notice all his military bars below his wings? You've got to LOVE the formal register in which they spoke back then though lol, 'BTW Neirv, check the beacon cross at 31 tharrsand ft will yoou - jarst incase 35 tharrsand is an-available to arz...' (Mis-spelt for emphasis btw!) BRILLIANT stuff! ;-))
52FestiveRoad 3 years ago
Oh and BTW the F/O pilot (to the left of the captain) is also a WWII vet - he also has his bars below his wings...Nearly all the captains and F/Os were WWII vets in those days (F/Os to until the first graduates started getting churned out of the then new Hamble College of Air Training)...
52FestiveRoad 3 years ago
I'd be worried if the Captain suddenly had a funny turn and then was imagining he was on a bombing mission over Germany.
Suitcases Away!
davidsan01 3 years ago
Gosh, golly, weren't the 'boys' in those days frafffly posh in their speech!!
henders01 3 years ago
wonderful my favourite jet!
fafoair 3 years ago
Excellent! The VC10-my all time favourite aircraft....would love a copy of the original film
maelcall 3 years ago