I COMPLETELY agree with you. Thank you so much for making this video, the original video was making me really angry, and I'm so happy to see someone else agrees that women should never be property of men. Like, ever.
This is shaming language. This is what feminism relies on. So you think Wisdom is a presumptuous projector. I think your projecting your penis envy all over.
I get it you want to be a boy. I don't blame you.
In my experience gay guys are more fun than lesbians, just one more way that men are better than women. Add a rock to the gravel pile.
This is the reason the western world is on its arse.The western world will crumble because the family unit is broken.You can't have a great society without the traditional family structure
Calling his opinions heterosexist reveals your bias at the outset. If you would really care to try and develop an objective viewpoint on feminism, try these sources on youtube. The Myth of Women's Oppression, and, The Myth of Male Power, Feminism may not have only screwed this generation but, this country as well. Even some feminists who are now mothers are saying that feminism has gone to far by making being a male a pathology that needs to be cured. You owe to yourself and your future.
@garavecure I think you are really full of yourself. This man moved to another country, learned another language, got a wife, a family, and a life, and you criticize him for doing this. You sound like a real control freak. He never expressed a wish to control YOUR life, and you should have the decency to not knock him for his choices.
That guy was clearly very "old fashioned" in his ideas and he has decided to blame feminists for his failure to adapt to the changing world.
Sorry, I know these comments are for your video (and I do think you made some rebuttles), but I do not dare post such a comment on any anti-feminist videos bc there are some quite vicious trolls over there.
Regarding "Heterosexist" - he's talking for himself. He is not gay or interested in lesbians.
I guess the ultimate point is this - if he is taking it too personally, being too harsh, would you be willing to absolutely commit to him for the rest of his life? Or anyone?
@garavecure Also, I'm really asking out of curiosity, but why do people like you love manipulating wordplay in such silly ways as "heterosexist?" Other examples being "womyn" and "herstory."
@garavecure Please don't accuse people of "extrapolating" on their own life experiences and then be completely oblivious to your own (lesbian) bias. You didn't mention any other sexual orientation except your own (ie: Homo, Bi, Trans etc.). BTW he never claimed "all" relationships are hetero. You assumed that. AND, in my opinion, feminism is one of, if not the most, destructive forces in our culture today. You are showing your own bias by calling all his opinions "heterosexist."
If you are truly equal than why do you need to bluster, blubber, and justify that for the past 2000 years you have been oppressed by men? You had equal (or greater) numbers so if you're so qualitatively equal than why did we own you in every aspect of human societal evolution?
We want "equality" NOW! Equality includes giving us more jobs in the workplace (even though we already hold the majority). And by jobs I mean management positions because they are cushy non-work where we can exercise our sense of entitlement and power through giving orders to men who do actual work. Just this morning I did a great job of condescending to the hard-working janitor man who I asked, "Sweetie could you please move that desk two inches to the left." I went above and beyond!
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
guys, trust me... don't ever believe anything women feed you with. DO NOT. what ever advice women give you, don't listen to it or do the exact opposite.
Women had the right to vote before the feminist movement started. They called those women (from the 20s) suffragettes. The family view of the suffragette was that of the traditionalist. Modern feminist leaders believe that women should not even have the option of being a housewife.
I disagree with the 2nd wave feminist idea "make the personal political". But many men who criticize feminism and women do just that, take their own bad experiences and attack targets to vent their rage, like by saying horrible and biased things to women, like saying women are just roaches out there to destroy society or all greedy and shallow etc.
Personally, no feminist (almost none) I have ever met was a Nazi. But that doesn't stop me from knowing that there are indeed bad feminists.
A rational and well-balanced response. I'm not saying feminism as a whole isn't flawed. There are feminazis out there who think it's only sexist when a man does it, but there are feminists that aren't Nazis. She's perfectly right when she says that big movements and ideas (like feminism and Christianity) have many different ideas and people with different beliefs.
wondered if she was ever going to get to the point... lots of nit-picking into what that guy was saying. if you know what someone is trying to say, even through their lack of ability to correctly express is... MOVE ON already....
Dear upload just don't bother even trying to converse with this nonsense its no better than saying civil rights are racist against white people. That guys entire point is based of the lie (and he knows it's a lie) that feminism is something other than womens fight for EQUALITY ofcourse there maybe a few misogynistic women but that is ALLOWED just like it is for men hence the word EQUALITY..
I get what your saying but women are starting to realize what femimism is starting to do to our country. The family structure is gone leaving everyone to walk into their own ignorance. Im a christian and one of the most important things taught within my belief is the structure of home is very important for everyday life. Now no one really have truth morals and values to stand on which leads to everybody searching for "wants" and ignoring what they "need"
@slap2tap2 equal rights? no thats all fine. feminists that wanted them is fine and they got it. feminists NOW is what screwed things up. theyv taken mens balls and crushed them and are these angry men hating bitches with no real point. evidence? they call them selfs feminists when that movement ended a long time ago and they got what they wanted. they have no real point or direction any more and merely want to step on your balls and castrate you. American girls suck now, go foreign guys.
is this a dude or a girl, im stumped here, hmmm n whats with all this commie shit, i bet these commies never read das kapital or why do niggers cross the road - i want some fried chicken now, this video was sooo boring, stay angry folks
You are an illiterate. No, that is not enough, you are an illiterate degenerate of a human being that is the zenith of a bigot, a social reject of modern day society. Degredations such as you have no right to breathe the air that we all share in our everyday routines. Societal trash like you is not even worthy to lick the dust that arises from my shoes when I walk.
First you accuse him of being heterosexist, then you say he bases his video on his point of view.... HES NOT A LESBIAN! Just because he doesn't always mention every other type of sexual group there is doesn't mean he is heterosexist that is stupid. Fathers are better judges of potential BOYfriends just as mothers are better judges of girlfriends. STFU with "heterosexist" bullshit, he could call you a "homosexist" just as easily, its relativistic, stupid term.
...are you fucking stupid? he's not a lesbian or a homosexual so he wouldn't know about how those relationships go. you liberals are so stupid once we mention something you always have to go "OH YOU DIDNT MENTION OTHER RACES, YOU'RE RACIST!" or "YOU DIDNT MENTION HOMOSEXUALS! YOU'RE HOMOPHOBIC!" YOU DIDNT MENTION THIS....YOU'RE THAT. totally irrelevant and has nothing to do with the subject
Oooh you're soo full of good and nice words.. but first of all, get a better video quality, second point: in the tv i see just half naked woman.. Why? is this the only thing you can do? What about the attitudes to carry on a show, instead of staying half naked for 2 hours and smiling?.. 3 point: There is no family if no one is with the children, for example, if i've got a good job.. why you wanna had one too ? stay at home.. create a family not a challenge. Worst thing in the family: feminism.
The person in this video makes a completely false, and bigoted, accusation about the video he/she is talking about.
There really isn't enough space here to explain why, this is my 4th attempt to fit it into this box. Suffice it to say, he/she makes a completely false and ignorant accusation that the guy is "hetero-sexist" or whatever moronic term is used. That is the basis of her entire video, and may very well be wrong from the beginning.
@Parley454 As in blame all Feminists, I think Valerie Salanas was nuts, and I don't agree with blaming all Feminists, but since alot of early Feminists did that, I don't see why it is wrong for someone to blame all feminists.
of course a question can be oppressive and insulting. FOR EXAMPLE:
- asking a muslim person if they have terrorist ties
- asking a lesbian couple which one of them is "the man"
- asking a person with disabilities what it's like to be "retarded"
did you just seriously try to use that argument? given that questions are just as handy for communicating content as statements, I'd say they can be pretty fucking problematic. good lord, what a dunce.
Feminism was started by Rockerfeller to gain money LOL..women are the easiest targets LOL. You who follow the movement are the weakest. US is gonna be filled with all lesbians LOL! lets all leave GUYS!!! LOL
The most impressive part of your argument is where you say "Dude, come on"
While many people deride the "come on" argument as trivial and empty, it can be very convincing when you do not really have any decent counterpoints.
It appeals to emotions and the desire to fit in by saying "You're just old fashioned and ridiculous, and I am new and improved - like dishwashing liquid. Try to keep up would ya."
How does feminism affect gay and lesbian relationships ?
He covered your feminist concerns why did you bring it up ?
He covered the change in voting. You obviously were not listening.
He said father would weed out jerks. AKA he will spot a guy who just wants to pump and dump the daughter. How did you bring it to property ? The mother might see the boy is a jerk the father still does the chasing.
The original poster is off track. Feminism is a movement that hates men. Since it is a female-hating-male movement, it does not bear much on any interior dynamics of Lesbian relationships. If a woman wants a relationship with a woman, this is her business, and no one else's. Likewise, Lesbians are not qualified to speak of male-female intimate relationships as these are just not part of their world for the most part.
You should probably learn a little more about Feminism before making a statement such as "Feminism is a movement that hates men". It may look good to your ignorant peers, but to those of us who ARE familiar with Feminism in theory and as a movement, it makes you look very silly.
The fact that you felt a need to point something like that out at all suggests, at the very least, an "intolerance of or dislike". Also, "lesbo" is generally a derogatory term and someone who is not homophobic probably wouldn't find the need to point something like that out.
P.S. I notice that you support the BNP and you think that America's war on Vietnam was "selfless". LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLL
@ignoranttwat Well, ignorant twat, your name is very well suited.
1. Im not homophobic.
2. It wasnt prejudice because it wasnt a statement, it was a question. All i wanted to know is if i was the only one who thought that, and im clearly not.
3. What the fuck do you know about the BNP, or the Vietnam war? And when i say know, i mean FACTS, NOT opinions. Because it seems to me, if your bringing that up then you cant have much of an argument if your just going to resort to pointless statements.
@ignoranttwat Well i've already answered your 1 and 2, and implying that you hold that prejudice isnt quite the same as, prejudice, is it? And no, just so you know i dont hold prejudice against anyone.
Well this is hardly the time or the place, but since you know PLENTY about the BNP and the vet war, then i would love to hear your encyclopedic knowledge.
I still don't see why you asked it. Yes, you "wanted to know if others thought the same", but I still don't think that really answers (my) question. As for the BNP, their only significance now is that they helped to change that the way the Far-Right try to sell their ideas (moving from a more upfront "we're Nazis" attitude to a more "we're not racist, we're not Right-Wing, we just blablabla"). As for the Vietnam war; to say that it was "selfless" on the part of the...
...Americans is absurd. They did it for nothing but selfish reasons. America is run by big business and so it fears Communism. When Communism started to pop up in Vietnam they started to think "oh dear, what if it spreads, if it does we're doomed" so they went in to protect themselves.
1) I care about people and prejudice (negatively) effects everyone.
2) They were fighting the Communists because they were worried that the system would spread to other countries (including, obviously, America) and that they would lose their money and power. So yes, I think that it was selfish.
3) Even if I do quote some policies, how do you know it's not just a copy+paste thing?
@ignoranttwat 1. Well it wasnt prejudice, so again, why do you care?
2. Well by that logic, all wars have been selfish.
3. Well that doesnt reall matter. What matters is you obviously think the BNP is a joke, or a nazi party, or both. The idea is you quote me some policies, and i justified why their not nazi, or a joke.
1) If you had written "Does anyone else think that she might be gay" I would have had less of a problem with it. I would still think that it's invasive and none of your business, but at least you wouldn't have been using apparently condescending language.
2) Possibly all wars (as in "every war ever"), yes. But some more than others.
3) I KNOW that the BNP had/have National Socialist ties, and I think that they have proven themselves to be a joke. At this point they...
1) What's wrong with "political correctness"? I care because I don't want people to be told that they are lesser because they're gay. It wouldn't be acceptable to go on a video and say "thumbs up if you think this guy is a Yid (Jew)..for real", would it? Or maybe you think it is because...
2) ...the Nazi/Anti-Semitic ties are fact. My amusement at their downfall is also a fact.
@ignoranttwat 1. Whats wrong with it? If the majority population dont want it (which in this country, they dont) its authoritarianism! Thats whats wrong with it. Oh, and Yid! How dare you say that you fucking nazi! Didnt you know that isnt political correct?
2. Still opinion. If your talking about the NF, or the VERY old BNP, then yes, but its not relevant to today, any more than Germanys past is relevant today, is it?
1) Firstly I think that you should read a bit about Authoritarianism, and then I think that you should move away from this pseudo-Utilitarian dialectic and start having a go at empathising with minorities. And either you are being wilfully ignorant or my "Yid" point went straight over your head.
2) Their Anti-Semitic ties are not opinion, and yes, their link to the NF IS relevant since it is a DIRECT link (members of the BNP were in the NF)...
@ignoranttwat 1. I know all about authoritianism, i could give you the definition if you want. And how exactly is that pseudo utilitarian? I mean why the the hell should i care about minorities? The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Oh, and the Yid bit, i find it very hard to belive you didnt get the point i was trying to make.
2. Prove it, give me some links and evidence, show me where on the BNP site it says anything anti-Semitic. And are you saying people cant change?
1) And you need to be rude, nosey and assert an air of homophobia because...? I referred to it as "pseudo-Utilitarian" because it's not the sort of thing that a normal Utilitarian would argue, but it does seem to get its justification from that sort of school of thought.
2) It doesn't, and that's the only thing they'll be really noted for in history; they helped move the Far-Right towards selling itself as "moderate". For members with an Anti-Semite and a National Front member you need look no further than their leader.
@ignoranttwat 1. Regardless, its still libertarian and utilitarian. Just because something isnt normally said outloud doesnt make it pseudo.
2. Exactly, all the anti-semitism is the past. And as far as the leader, i ask again, are you saying people cant change?
3. No, in fact im very much against feminism. Why? Because its irrational. Its a bit like communism, on paper it sounds like a good idea, but in the real world it just doesnt work.
1) My use of that suffix was probably misguided; I meant that it sounds like Utilitarian thought taken to an unnecessary extreme. Or something like that.
2) /watch?v=04QolIvfQEw
Yep.
3) In what respect is Feminism "irrational"? And Capitalism doesn't seem to be going too well, does it?
I'm a Marxist who (naturally) wants the best for the majority. Prejudice is not the best thing for the minority, it is a tool used by the people at the top to keep us divided.
@ignoranttwat 1. Do you even know what anti-semitism is? And /watch?v=04QolIvfQEw which im going to geuss is the "BNP Nick Griffin + KKK Terrorist" vid, so. I didnt see any hatred, or authoritianism. If you want to see hatred and authoritianism, then do abit of research on the UAF, which is goverment funded by the LibLabCon.
2. Well feminism is irrational because its the idea that men and women should be treated 100% equally, well, men and-----------------------------
1) Well done at guessing that, I wonder how you did it. If standing with the KKK isn't hatred then I don't know what is.
2) "Equal"=/="the same". Feminists think that women should be valued equally. Give me ONE reason why that shouldn't be the case.
3) No, I am pretty much the opposite of an Authoritarian. And n, political correctness was not born out of Communism, it was clearly developed in Capitalist societies.
@ignoranttwat 1. How was it hatred? Explain to me how it was hatred.
2. Did you not read what i said? Here's a reason, we're DIFFERENT! I mean you wouldnt use a hammer to drill a screw in, would you?
3. That's great, a marxist whos not an authoritian, who is called ignorant twat, lol. Political correctness was a weapon created by the marxists with the intent to destroy the west to spread communism. Watch this vid on youtube "The History of Political Correctness (Complete)".
@ignoranttwat 1. If you were talking to a KKK member, would that make you a hater?
2. Yes, we're biologically different, and mentally different. Fact, website "howstuffworks" tipe in Do men and women have different brains? First one at the top.
3. Authoritarian = Favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, esp. that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom. Now, do you support the political correctness in society today?
And where was the flaws in the link? It was all fact.
2) Why does that mean that we should not be valued equally?
3) Define "authority". In this society it is, obviously, the ruling class, the banks, big business, the government. In this case I am not an authoritarian. In Socialist society it would be everyone. In which case I am, but I believe the term to be redundant in this regard.
@ignoranttwat 1. So if you were TALKING, to a KKK member, that makes you a hater. Why? Because i didnt hear him say anything hateful, or authoritarian for that matter.
2. Well why aren't plants and animals treated equally?
3. You dont have to be the authority to be an authoritarian. If you agree with authoritarianism, that makes you an authoritarian. And the same goes for political correctness. Tell me, do you advocate communism?
@ignoranttwat 1. Ah, so your saying the BNP are lying then?
2. Things are only treated the same if they are the same. Things that are different get treated differently because of the reasons why their different. Sorry if i cant put it more clearly then that.
3. Well if you belive in communism then you're either very ignorant, or a liberal authoritarian, especially if you agree with political correctness. Why? Because libertarian communism cannot exist, because people are naturally greedy.
1) Not exactly; I'm saying that they are using purposefully misleading language.
2) Let's say you have two children, and let's, for the sake of argument, say that they are both boys. They are of course different, but would you value them differently?
3) I do not accept that people are "naturally greedy". In this society greed is necessary for survival, but we will not always live in this society.
@ignoranttwat 1. So your saying the BNP use half-truths (ie, lying)?
2. If their differences were relevant to something important, yes. But dont get me wrong, i would love them both just as much.
3. Really? Why dont you do a bit of research on the once perfect liberal socialist society, the soviet union. Not everybody was treated equally. Example, people in goverment were treated much better than everyone else. Why? Because people are greedy, and they had the power.
1) I am saying (and they are saying too) that they use "safe" terms no mean things that most people would not otherwise accept.
2) So why would you not value men and women the same? Men and women have far more similarities than differences and the differences are not "relevant to [anything] important".
3) I have already said that I am not a Stalinist. With Stalin the Soviet Union became a State-Capitalist system, much like China today. I do not advocate either.
@ignoranttwat 1. Well, their either lying or telling the truth, pick one.
2. Well on alot of things men and women should be valued the same on. But just because there's more similarities than differences doesnt mean the differences aren't relevant.
3. Your missing the point. The point is libertarian communism cant exist because people are greedy, if you give power to the people, the people use it. Libertarian communism is ironic, so if you belive in communism your an authoritarian.
2) Give me at least on of these differences which are relevant.
3) I don't think you understand Communism. I believe that when there is an absence (abolition) of ruling classes (and class in general) people will not be quite so "greedy". I am certainly not a Libertarian. When Communism comes in to place everyone effectively becomes the state.
@ignoranttwat 1. Well yes it is, people either tell the truth, lie, or half truths (ie, lying).
2. Women are the birth givers and men are physically stronger. Are you telling me that those aren't relevant differences?
3. I do. Communism, the idea of a classless society were everyone is treated 100% equally, the problem being that people are not equal. And your idea of greed will go away when class goes away has already been proved wrong, time and time again. And if your not a libertarian your a?
3) This is the mistake you are making; people are not the same, but they ARE equal (or should be). Your idea that Capitalism works has been proven wrong time and time again. The problem of achieving Communism in this age is that almost everywhere is not Communist, this has been the most common cause for destroyed Communist states. I am not a Libertarian, I am a Communist.
2. What do you mean by value? Because men & women are more or less valued at different things, for good reasons.
3. (people are not the same, but they ARE equal)? Equal = A person or thing considered to be the same as another in status or quality. And I never said capitalism doesnt have problems, but when it works, it works well, whereas communism NEVER WORKS. Your an authoritarian.
1) Language is not written in stone; any number of people may have any number of meanings for any one word (or set of words).
2) I mean basically this (from Google):
"The regard that something is held to deserve; the importance or preciousness of something."
If you mean that men are valued for being physically strong and women are valued for having babies, you only need to step out into the real world to see that that is not the case.
3) People are not "the same", but they are of "equal value". Communism has worked. The problem is sustaining it in a Capitalist world. Capitalism is a cycle of relative good and absolute bad. It cannot be any other way. I am not an Authoritarian because I believe that authority should be the people and not any sort of oligarchy.
@ignoranttwat 1. So if hes not telling the truth or lying, what is he saying?
2. So if you needed to employ people to do heavy lifting, you would have 50% women, because we need to be vauled the same?
3.Did you not read my dictionary definition of equal? It hasnt, there has never been a true communist society, true communism can not exist because people are naturally greedy.
4. You cant, not be an authoritarian if your not a Libertarian. You cant be neutral, unless your neutral in politics too.
1) He's saying the same old things in a new language.
2) Yes. But I wouldn't go out of my way to make sure that I did have 50% of each.
3) I take it you don't (I'm going to assume you're still in education) study History. People are not naturally greedy. If they were we wouldn't have survived as a species this long.
4) Put it this way; I am Authoritarian for the people, which as far as I'm concerned makes the term meaningless. The world is not black and white.
@ignoranttwat 1. And was the old things true?= That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality. Or lies?= Used with reference to a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression.
2. Well if you didnt then you would be a sexist.
3. No im not still in education, and i didnt study history in school, but i do study it at home for fun. Ok then, if we are not naturally greedy, what started greed off in the first place? I mean i've already proved that by the fact that-------
@ignoranttwat 1. Ok, now your just using critical theory. Those are opinions, old opinions, im talking about their facts and promises. So one last time, are you saying the BNP are lying about their facts and promises? Or are they telling the truth?
2. But women should do the job. Why? I mean are you saying when it comes to heavy lifting, on majority women can do just as good a job as men?
3. What you dont understand is there are levels of greed. If nobody was then nothing would happen.
1) Are they lying in saying that they are not a far right party? Yes. Are They lying in saying that they are not racist? Yes. Is language a solid construct? no.
2) Most women are not as physically strong as most men, but if I woman is able to do a heavy lifting job then there is no reason why she shouldn't. Averages are just averages and don't mean much in the real world.
@ignoranttwat 1. Do the BNP say they ARE a far-right party? Yes. Do the BNP claim that europeans and/or British people are superior to everyone else? No, hence not racist.
Now, back to the real question. Are you saying the BNP are lying about their facts and promises? Or are they telling the truth?
2. That's not what i asked you. On majority can women do just as good a job as men when it comes to heavy lifting?
3. Do you think i think that greed is the only thing that drives people-------------
1) I'm certain that they have said numerous times that they are not on the far-right, have they changed their minds since I stopped paying attention to them? Just because they don't "claim" that white people are superior it doesn't mean that they are not racist. As for the "real question", I would say that they are not being realistic with their facts and they are sincere with their "promises", but there are also things which they hold back, things which would make...
@ignoranttwat 1. Well when did you stop paying attention? To my knowledge the BNP have always been openly far-right. "Just because they don't "claim" that white people are superior it doesn't mean that they are not racist."... Really? Thats not what the dictionary says.
Rac·ist
noun
1.A person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
adjective
1.Having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
2. Thank you. So by the argument that-------------------
1) I stopped paying attention when they started plotting to kill each other. Watch some Griffin interviews, he openly denies right-wingedness. Racism can also be the belief that one (or more) "race" is (are) inferior, and some things which we know (they are all on YouTube) about the BNP (and Griffin in particular) strongly suggest that he is certainly racist.
2) A job should go to who is best suited for it regardless of their sex.
@ignoranttwat 1. Ok, now i think your just making shit up. I gave you the definition of racist, and the reason why the BNP are not, and all your doing is just cutting hairs. Really, when did you stop paying attention to the BNP? 1990?
Rac·ism
noun
1.The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race , especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
1) I'm starting to think that YOU don't know much about the BNP.
2) A sex is not better or worse than a job, an individual is. Perhaps men are on average better a heavy lifting; this does not mean that women should be discriminated against for such a job. As I have said, some women will be better at it than some men. It doesn't mean anything.
3) There's no need to be cocky about it, the question had ambiguous context. And no, I am not satisfied with life....
@ignoranttwat 1. How old you? And what year did you stop paying attention to the BNP? Because, dont take this the wrong way, but you sound like my mum, a 40 something year old women that only remembers the very old BNP.
2. I never said they should be discriminated. My point is, men & women cant be valued equally, because on majority their better or worse at different things/jobs.
3. You live in a first world country, why aren't you content? And, do you want to be?
1) I am 35, how old are you? I live in the present, not in the past. I stopped paying attention when all that Mark Collett murder plot started. It didn't matter whether it was true or not, it showed that they wouldn't be around for much longer either way.
2) As I said before, equal=/=the same.
3) I am not content because though I may be lucky where I live many others are not, and to say that what we have here is good is also wrong (though it is of course not nearly...
1) Yes, because it destroyed the public's view of them, whereas before that they were almost managing to convince some people that they had changed.
2) My point is that the people who are best for the job should get the job, if it happened to be a woman then it doesn't matter, even if the job generally attracts more men.
3) I'm greedy for wanting a better world for everyone?
@ignoranttwat 1. Well, your opinion doesnt really stand up to the math, does it? I mean think about it, every year the BNP's vote has been consistently going up, in numbers, and percentage.
2. Yes, but when people do that, what happens? The feminists say "to many men in this job, how sexist" Thats how feminism is irrational.
3. Yes, you want more, ie a better world to live in. Even if you want it for everyone is irrelevant, greed is there because people want more. Thats my point, if-------------
@ignoranttwat 1. Look up the BNP on wikipedia, and look under "General election performance" everything is up.
2. What do you mean? Do you mean you and me? Or feminists in general?
3. No, your greedy because you want more. Your selfish because you lack the consideration of others who do not wish to live in a communist society.
Take a true communist society, a country were everyone has the exact same amout of resources. In this society, everyone has a very small amout of food,-------------------
1) Yes, and that was in 2010. I'm pretty sure their popularity has declined since then, or at least that's what the local elections would suggest.
2) I mean Feminists in general.
3) I want more of what? I don't want to live in a Communist society because it would be better for me, I want to live in a Communist society because it would be better for everyone. Why do you assume that in a "true" Communist society everyone would starve?
1) I'm pretty sure it has an "s" on the end. Either that or I've being living a lie.
2) Read some Feminist literature. And I don't mean Valerie Solanas.
3) I care about them, I want them to have the same living conditions as everyone else, I want them to be as happy as possible, but if their ideology compromises the well-being of others then that is not all right.
@ignoranttwat 1. What do you mean by "Either that or I've being living a lie"?
2. Feminism is alot like communism, the ideology is very different to what really happens.
3. So your greedy. Your an excellent example of a hypocrite, because you hate natural human traits, you my as well hate people for thinking.
The question. In a perfect communist society(with famine), are you tell me if someone was staring, they wouldnt naturally WANT more food, even if it means taking it from someone else?
1) I was joking. I don't know if you've noticed but over here we say "maths", not "math". And YOU are the one who supports the British National Party...
2) For Communism, read (or watch on YouTube) some Žižek. Not really sure who to recommend for Feminism, but pretty much anyone who doesn't hate men and who isn't transphobic (or just ignore the transphobic stuff)
3) There are some things I do hate in people, yes, I hate selfishness, bigotry, malice etcetera, but I never said people are perfect. There are plenty of good things in people too. No one is bad all the time and no one is good all the time, no matter how hard we may try.
As for the question, of course people would want food (let alone "more"), but why do you suggest that people would being starving in a Communist society?
@ignoranttwat 1.Ok, lets say you had the power to spread true communism all over the world, and only 1% of all people wanted it, would you do it anyway?
2. "course people would want food" Then people must be, naturally greedy.
Greedy
adjective
1.Having or showing an intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth or power
2.Having an excessive desire or appetite for food
And the only reason i put the hypothetical situation in a true communist society, was so it was in a non-greedy society.
@ignoranttwat 1. Then thats means you are a liberal authoritarian, selfish, and greedy.
2. Ah, so are you really telling me if someone killed their siblings over some farmland, because of famine, then that wouldnt be greedy? Greed(1.Intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth, power, or food)
this lez feminazi is fighting her own voice. I feel sorry for it
Anglichanen 27 minutes ago
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Females of today are so disgusting. no way i'm making a move over one of you world wide!!!
stamstuff 4 days ago
'All relationships are non heterosexual, it's offensive' it's the 21st century.'
He was speaking from HIS experience as a hetero male who wants to form a family, you dumb moron.
Muskateering 1 week ago
I COMPLETELY agree with you. Thank you so much for making this video, the original video was making me really angry, and I'm so happy to see someone else agrees that women should never be property of men. Like, ever.
MrsPeaceItOut 1 week ago
Just because lesbians exist, doesnt make it right, and it doesnt mean there is anything wrong with people who disagree with homosexuality.
Besides, who's to say that the 21st century will accept you homos?
TheEqualizer2U 1 month ago
lesbians exist but they shouldn't
HiralShah00 2 months ago
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random comment involving the word 'kitchen'
motombocolombo 2 months ago
This is shaming language. This is what feminism relies on. So you think Wisdom is a presumptuous projector. I think your projecting your penis envy all over.
I get it you want to be a boy. I don't blame you.
In my experience gay guys are more fun than lesbians, just one more way that men are better than women. Add a rock to the gravel pile.
HzzzMurph 2 months ago
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Monkeymantony60 2 months ago
This is the reason the western world is on its arse.The western world will crumble because the family unit is broken.You can't have a great society without the traditional family structure
infidel1978 2 months ago
But she doesn't see the big picture.
goyneser1 2 months ago
Calling his opinions heterosexist reveals your bias at the outset. If you would really care to try and develop an objective viewpoint on feminism, try these sources on youtube. The Myth of Women's Oppression, and, The Myth of Male Power, Feminism may not have only screwed this generation but, this country as well. Even some feminists who are now mothers are saying that feminism has gone to far by making being a male a pathology that needs to be cured. You owe to yourself and your future.
dnsmithnc 3 months ago 5
@garavecure I think you are really full of yourself. This man moved to another country, learned another language, got a wife, a family, and a life, and you criticize him for doing this. You sound like a real control freak. He never expressed a wish to control YOUR life, and you should have the decency to not knock him for his choices.
Albacorewing
Albacorewing 3 months ago 14
this bitch would be respected if she wasn't degenerate...
Sam10947 3 months ago
That guy was clearly very "old fashioned" in his ideas and he has decided to blame feminists for his failure to adapt to the changing world.
Sorry, I know these comments are for your video (and I do think you made some rebuttles), but I do not dare post such a comment on any anti-feminist videos bc there are some quite vicious trolls over there.
smokingm0nkeys 3 months ago
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No one cares, you fucking cow.
HaioHaoi 3 months ago
Regarding "Heterosexist" - he's talking for himself. He is not gay or interested in lesbians.
I guess the ultimate point is this - if he is taking it too personally, being too harsh, would you be willing to absolutely commit to him for the rest of his life? Or anyone?
dmmchn 3 months ago 2
The extremely hateful, ignorant, and derogatory comments made to this woman are perfect examples of how educated and enlightened most people are.
BoggiD101 3 months ago
@garavecure Also, I'm really asking out of curiosity, but why do people like you love manipulating wordplay in such silly ways as "heterosexist?" Other examples being "womyn" and "herstory."
railroadwino1 3 months ago
@garavecure Please don't accuse people of "extrapolating" on their own life experiences and then be completely oblivious to your own (lesbian) bias. You didn't mention any other sexual orientation except your own (ie: Homo, Bi, Trans etc.). BTW he never claimed "all" relationships are hetero. You assumed that. AND, in my opinion, feminism is one of, if not the most, destructive forces in our culture today. You are showing your own bias by calling all his opinions "heterosexist."
railroadwino1 3 months ago
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Dear Women,
If you are truly equal than why do you need to bluster, blubber, and justify that for the past 2000 years you have been oppressed by men? You had equal (or greater) numbers so if you're so qualitatively equal than why did we own you in every aspect of human societal evolution?
railroadwino1 3 months ago
Dear men,
We want "equality" NOW! Equality includes giving us more jobs in the workplace (even though we already hold the majority). And by jobs I mean management positions because they are cushy non-work where we can exercise our sense of entitlement and power through giving orders to men who do actual work. Just this morning I did a great job of condescending to the hard-working janitor man who I asked, "Sweetie could you please move that desk two inches to the left." I went above and beyond!
railroadwino1 3 months ago
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Romans 1:26-27
New King James Version (NKJV)
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
sgj002 3 months ago
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sgj002 3 months ago
Is this a boy or a girl?
sgj002 3 months ago 2
guys, trust me... don't ever believe anything women feed you with. DO NOT. what ever advice women give you, don't listen to it or do the exact opposite.
azenkwed 3 months ago
Shut up, u'r brainwashed
warrior4just 3 months ago
There is only heterosex, the rest is oxymoronic...u understand you shit for brain
Sam10947 3 months ago
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FUCK U YOU DEGENERATE...
Sam10947 3 months ago
I dont get why this has so many dislikes, she has some damn good points
dcorps 4 months ago
@dcorps She's a feminist and normal people hate feminism. Why are you repeating the same questions that many other women pretend to be ignorant of?
CpsLock3 4 months ago
@dcorps Because most people are sheep and seeing feminism as "castrating man haters" is part of the popular zietgiest. That's why.
BoggiD101 3 months ago
I agree. Thank you for this video.
Lalon016 4 months ago
Women had the right to vote before the feminist movement started. They called those women (from the 20s) suffragettes. The family view of the suffragette was that of the traditionalist. Modern feminist leaders believe that women should not even have the option of being a housewife.
jcopetre3 4 months ago 2
I disagree with the 2nd wave feminist idea "make the personal political". But many men who criticize feminism and women do just that, take their own bad experiences and attack targets to vent their rage, like by saying horrible and biased things to women, like saying women are just roaches out there to destroy society or all greedy and shallow etc.
Personally, no feminist (almost none) I have ever met was a Nazi. But that doesn't stop me from knowing that there are indeed bad feminists.
BoggiD101 4 months ago
A rational and well-balanced response. I'm not saying feminism as a whole isn't flawed. There are feminazis out there who think it's only sexist when a man does it, but there are feminists that aren't Nazis. She's perfectly right when she says that big movements and ideas (like feminism and Christianity) have many different ideas and people with different beliefs.
BoggiD101 4 months ago
wondered if she was ever going to get to the point... lots of nit-picking into what that guy was saying. if you know what someone is trying to say, even through their lack of ability to correctly express is... MOVE ON already....
decwow 4 months ago
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Men dont even think of having a relationship or marriage with an American white woman. Get an Asian woman and even better move to Asian if possible.
andrewmag1 4 months ago
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dubscheckem1 4 months ago
macho macho girl... she wants to be a machoooohooo girlll....
macho macho girl... she wants be a machO.....
sing along now.....
Sextorator 4 months ago
shut the fuck up stevo...go relearn how to be a girl. death to oxymorons
warrior4just 4 months ago
Dear upload just don't bother even trying to converse with this nonsense its no better than saying civil rights are racist against white people. That guys entire point is based of the lie (and he knows it's a lie) that feminism is something other than womens fight for EQUALITY ofcourse there maybe a few misogynistic women but that is ALLOWED just like it is for men hence the word EQUALITY..
pandasftuw 4 months ago
I get what your saying but women are starting to realize what femimism is starting to do to our country. The family structure is gone leaving everyone to walk into their own ignorance. Im a christian and one of the most important things taught within my belief is the structure of home is very important for everyday life. Now no one really have truth morals and values to stand on which leads to everybody searching for "wants" and ignoring what they "need"
jswilliams669383will 4 months ago
feminism and equal rights plays a big part in why our generation is fucked
slap2tap2 4 months ago
@slap2tap2 equal rights? no thats all fine. feminists that wanted them is fine and they got it. feminists NOW is what screwed things up. theyv taken mens balls and crushed them and are these angry men hating bitches with no real point. evidence? they call them selfs feminists when that movement ended a long time ago and they got what they wanted. they have no real point or direction any more and merely want to step on your balls and castrate you. American girls suck now, go foreign guys.
muaythaijunky 4 months ago
is this a dude or a girl, im stumped here, hmmm n whats with all this commie shit, i bet these commies never read das kapital or why do niggers cross the road - i want some fried chicken now, this video was sooo boring, stay angry folks
GRANDMASTERKANE 4 months ago
@GRANDMASTERKANE i couldnt figure it out either
MrSyntheticDesign 4 months ago
At first i tough it was a guy.. Lesbian hair cut dont help :X
I'm so mean XDDD
Mickr4 4 months ago
You are an illiterate. No, that is not enough, you are an illiterate degenerate of a human being that is the zenith of a bigot, a social reject of modern day society. Degredations such as you have no right to breathe the air that we all share in our everyday routines. Societal trash like you is not even worthy to lick the dust that arises from my shoes when I walk.
wtfsaywat 4 months ago
First you accuse him of being heterosexist, then you say he bases his video on his point of view.... HES NOT A LESBIAN! Just because he doesn't always mention every other type of sexual group there is doesn't mean he is heterosexist that is stupid. Fathers are better judges of potential BOYfriends just as mothers are better judges of girlfriends. STFU with "heterosexist" bullshit, he could call you a "homosexist" just as easily, its relativistic, stupid term.
norgulon 4 months ago
...are you fucking stupid? he's not a lesbian or a homosexual so he wouldn't know about how those relationships go. you liberals are so stupid once we mention something you always have to go "OH YOU DIDNT MENTION OTHER RACES, YOU'RE RACIST!" or "YOU DIDNT MENTION HOMOSEXUALS! YOU'RE HOMOPHOBIC!" YOU DIDNT MENTION THIS....YOU'RE THAT. totally irrelevant and has nothing to do with the subject
91Shining 4 months ago
lesbians don't exist for me ... :D
kingkongdongful 4 months ago
Oooh you're soo full of good and nice words.. but first of all, get a better video quality, second point: in the tv i see just half naked woman.. Why? is this the only thing you can do? What about the attitudes to carry on a show, instead of staying half naked for 2 hours and smiling?.. 3 point: There is no family if no one is with the children, for example, if i've got a good job.. why you wanna had one too ? stay at home.. create a family not a challenge. Worst thing in the family: feminism.
TheLOL4DUDE 4 months ago
The person in this video makes a completely false, and bigoted, accusation about the video he/she is talking about.
There really isn't enough space here to explain why, this is my 4th attempt to fit it into this box. Suffice it to say, he/she makes a completely false and ignorant accusation that the guy is "hetero-sexist" or whatever moronic term is used. That is the basis of her entire video, and may very well be wrong from the beginning.
jahanr1 4 months ago
Valerie Salanis, she took her life experiences and blamed all men for them, so why can't other people do that?
Parley454 4 months ago
@Parley454 As in blame all Feminists, I think Valerie Salanas was nuts, and I don't agree with blaming all Feminists, but since alot of early Feminists did that, I don't see why it is wrong for someone to blame all feminists.
Parley454 4 months ago
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@Parley454
"since alot of early Feminists did that"
You're making yourself look like a fool. That comment displays the utmost ignorance.
"I don't see why it is wrong for someone to blame all feminists"
Because firstly, they never did, and secondly, because if they did, you should never lower yourself to your opponent.
ignoranttwat 4 months ago
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Albacorewing 5 months ago
Is that a lesbian?
hamberg42 5 months ago
@hamberg42 Yes.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago 2
i think you under stood noting
he said <.<
MGSDORITO 5 months ago
you look like a man
ulkord 5 months ago
@ulkord
You look like a fool.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat no u
ulkord 5 months ago
@ulkord
You're sort of proving my point there.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat no u
ulkord 5 months ago
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@Ionlyfearphobophobia
of course a question can be oppressive and insulting. FOR EXAMPLE:
- asking a muslim person if they have terrorist ties
- asking a lesbian couple which one of them is "the man"
- asking a person with disabilities what it's like to be "retarded"
did you just seriously try to use that argument? given that questions are just as handy for communicating content as statements, I'd say they can be pretty fucking problematic. good lord, what a dunce.
sassyqueer 5 months ago
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sassyqueer 5 months ago
your gay
MrKolerful 5 months ago
Feminism has totally fucked our generation but NOT for the reasons that moron expressed.
justvisiting1979 5 months ago
Okay, I cannot tell whether the person in this vid is a dude or a chick. Somebody mind chiming in here ?
Manoffriendship 5 months ago
This girl looks/acts like she is about 12 years old and is speaking of 'life experiences'.
creative3024 5 months ago
I would hit it... with a bat..... a bomb.....a nuclear bomb.....a nuclear bomb and a bat not in that order
pimpedpope 5 months ago
Feminism was started by Rockerfeller to gain money LOL..women are the easiest targets LOL. You who follow the movement are the weakest. US is gonna be filled with all lesbians LOL! lets all leave GUYS!!! LOL
dmartinez1982 5 months ago
The most impressive part of your argument is where you say "Dude, come on"
While many people deride the "come on" argument as trivial and empty, it can be very convincing when you do not really have any decent counterpoints.
It appeals to emotions and the desire to fit in by saying "You're just old fashioned and ridiculous, and I am new and improved - like dishwashing liquid. Try to keep up would ya."
I commend you for your skillful rebuttal.
mindprism 5 months ago
How does feminism affect gay and lesbian relationships ?
He covered your feminist concerns why did you bring it up ?
He covered the change in voting. You obviously were not listening.
He said father would weed out jerks. AKA he will spot a guy who just wants to pump and dump the daughter. How did you bring it to property ? The mother might see the boy is a jerk the father still does the chasing.
Learn to listen.
torrid426 5 months ago
The original poster is off track. Feminism is a movement that hates men. Since it is a female-hating-male movement, it does not bear much on any interior dynamics of Lesbian relationships. If a woman wants a relationship with a woman, this is her business, and no one else's. Likewise, Lesbians are not qualified to speak of male-female intimate relationships as these are just not part of their world for the most part.
Albacorewing 5 months ago
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@Albacorewing
You should probably learn a little more about Feminism before making a statement such as "Feminism is a movement that hates men". It may look good to your ignorant peers, but to those of us who ARE familiar with Feminism in theory and as a movement, it makes you look very silly.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
This is amazing! You are phenomenal!! Hetero-sensitivity is getting ridiculous!!!! You rock girl!! #representin'
campbellakter 5 months ago 2
The top comments make me want to scream my head off. There is no hope for humanity. Prejudice has screwed our whole fucking everything.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat You define that as PREJUDICE?...
Moron.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
Gender/sexual orientation prejudice, yes.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat Well this should be fun. Please give me your definition of prejudice.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
Couldn't be bothered to write one of my own, so here are a couple off of the internets;
"Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion."
"intolerance of or dislike for people of a specific race, religion, etc."
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat Exactly, so how the hell is what i said prejudice?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
The fact that you felt a need to point something like that out at all suggests, at the very least, an "intolerance of or dislike". Also, "lesbo" is generally a derogatory term and someone who is not homophobic probably wouldn't find the need to point something like that out.
P.S. I notice that you support the BNP and you think that America's war on Vietnam was "selfless". LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLL
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat Well, ignorant twat, your name is very well suited.
1. Im not homophobic.
2. It wasnt prejudice because it wasnt a statement, it was a question. All i wanted to know is if i was the only one who thought that, and im clearly not.
3. What the fuck do you know about the BNP, or the Vietnam war? And when i say know, i mean FACTS, NOT opinions. Because it seems to me, if your bringing that up then you cant have much of an argument if your just going to resort to pointless statements.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Then why did you ask that question? Along with the superfluous (gratuitous, even) "...for real"?
2) By asking that question you are implying that you hold that prejudice.
3) Plenty. I just brought it up because I thought it was funny. I'm quite happy to argue about all three, if you like.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat Well i've already answered your 1 and 2, and implying that you hold that prejudice isnt quite the same as, prejudice, is it? And no, just so you know i dont hold prejudice against anyone.
Well this is hardly the time or the place, but since you know PLENTY about the BNP and the vet war, then i would love to hear your encyclopedic knowledge.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
I still don't see why you asked it. Yes, you "wanted to know if others thought the same", but I still don't think that really answers (my) question. As for the BNP, their only significance now is that they helped to change that the way the Far-Right try to sell their ideas (moving from a more upfront "we're Nazis" attitude to a more "we're not racist, we're not Right-Wing, we just blablabla"). As for the Vietnam war; to say that it was "selfless" on the part of the...
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
...Americans is absurd. They did it for nothing but selfish reasons. America is run by big business and so it fears Communism. When Communism started to pop up in Vietnam they started to think "oh dear, what if it spreads, if it does we're doomed" so they went in to protect themselves.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. "why did you ask that question?" Curiosity.
2.How did the Vietnam war benefit the U.S (Or would of), because it wasnt a threat.
3. So in other words you really dont know anything about the BNP, I would bet £20 right now that you havent even read their policies.
And 4. Hears a free tip, dont say you know plenty about something if you dont.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) The only way to find out is to ask her directly, but it's a personal matter and therefore none of your business anyway.
2) America felt threatened by Communism. They were REALLY scared of it, and they still are.
3) I did read their policies when they were significant to the present, but they are no longer.
4) Oh thanks, that might come in handy :\
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Why the hell do you care anyway?
2.And you dont think thats selfless? They were fighting communism for no personal gain.
3.Good, so quote me 3 policies.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) I care about people and prejudice (negatively) effects everyone.
2) They were fighting the Communists because they were worried that the system would spread to other countries (including, obviously, America) and that they would lose their money and power. So yes, I think that it was selfish.
3) Even if I do quote some policies, how do you know it's not just a copy+paste thing?
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Well it wasnt prejudice, so again, why do you care?
2. Well by that logic, all wars have been selfish.
3. Well that doesnt reall matter. What matters is you obviously think the BNP is a joke, or a nazi party, or both. The idea is you quote me some policies, and i justified why their not nazi, or a joke.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) If you had written "Does anyone else think that she might be gay" I would have had less of a problem with it. I would still think that it's invasive and none of your business, but at least you wouldn't have been using apparently condescending language.
2) Possibly all wars (as in "every war ever"), yes. But some more than others.
3) I KNOW that the BNP had/have National Socialist ties, and I think that they have proven themselves to be a joke. At this point they...
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
...are a non-issue. All the infighting has cause the Left, most of the Right AND centrists/apoliticals to stop taking them seriously.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Who the hell cares? What ever happened to sticks and stones? I mean do you know how unbelievable politically correct you are?
2.You do realize that everything you've said about the BNP is your opinion? Without substantiation your opinion's mean nothing.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) What's wrong with "political correctness"? I care because I don't want people to be told that they are lesser because they're gay. It wouldn't be acceptable to go on a video and say "thumbs up if you think this guy is a Yid (Jew)..for real", would it? Or maybe you think it is because...
2) ...the Nazi/Anti-Semitic ties are fact. My amusement at their downfall is also a fact.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Whats wrong with it? If the majority population dont want it (which in this country, they dont) its authoritarianism! Thats whats wrong with it. Oh, and Yid! How dare you say that you fucking nazi! Didnt you know that isnt political correct?
2. Still opinion. If your talking about the NF, or the VERY old BNP, then yes, but its not relevant to today, any more than Germanys past is relevant today, is it?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Firstly I think that you should read a bit about Authoritarianism, and then I think that you should move away from this pseudo-Utilitarian dialectic and start having a go at empathising with minorities. And either you are being wilfully ignorant or my "Yid" point went straight over your head.
2) Their Anti-Semitic ties are not opinion, and yes, their link to the NF IS relevant since it is a DIRECT link (members of the BNP were in the NF)...
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. I know all about authoritianism, i could give you the definition if you want. And how exactly is that pseudo utilitarian? I mean why the the hell should i care about minorities? The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Oh, and the Yid bit, i find it very hard to belive you didnt get the point i was trying to make.
2. Prove it, give me some links and evidence, show me where on the BNP site it says anything anti-Semitic. And are you saying people cant change?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) And you need to be rude, nosey and assert an air of homophobia because...? I referred to it as "pseudo-Utilitarian" because it's not the sort of thing that a normal Utilitarian would argue, but it does seem to get its justification from that sort of school of thought.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
2) It doesn't, and that's the only thing they'll be really noted for in history; they helped move the Far-Right towards selling itself as "moderate". For members with an Anti-Semite and a National Front member you need look no further than their leader.
So I take it you're not a Feminist?
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Regardless, its still libertarian and utilitarian. Just because something isnt normally said outloud doesnt make it pseudo.
2. Exactly, all the anti-semitism is the past. And as far as the leader, i ask again, are you saying people cant change?
3. No, in fact im very much against feminism. Why? Because its irrational. Its a bit like communism, on paper it sounds like a good idea, but in the real world it just doesnt work.
So i take it your a liberal that -------------
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) My use of that suffix was probably misguided; I meant that it sounds like Utilitarian thought taken to an unnecessary extreme. Or something like that.
2) /watch?v=04QolIvfQEw
Yep.
3) In what respect is Feminism "irrational"? And Capitalism doesn't seem to be going too well, does it?
I'm a Marxist who (naturally) wants the best for the majority. Prejudice is not the best thing for the minority, it is a tool used by the people at the top to keep us divided.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Do you even know what anti-semitism is? And /watch?v=04QolIvfQEw which im going to geuss is the "BNP Nick Griffin + KKK Terrorist" vid, so. I didnt see any hatred, or authoritianism. If you want to see hatred and authoritianism, then do abit of research on the UAF, which is goverment funded by the LibLabCon.
2. Well feminism is irrational because its the idea that men and women should be treated 100% equally, well, men and-----------------------------
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Well done at guessing that, I wonder how you did it. If standing with the KKK isn't hatred then I don't know what is.
2) "Equal"=/="the same". Feminists think that women should be valued equally. Give me ONE reason why that shouldn't be the case.
3) No, I am pretty much the opposite of an Authoritarian. And n, political correctness was not born out of Communism, it was clearly developed in Capitalist societies.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. How was it hatred? Explain to me how it was hatred.
2. Did you not read what i said? Here's a reason, we're DIFFERENT! I mean you wouldnt use a hammer to drill a screw in, would you?
3. That's great, a marxist whos not an authoritian, who is called ignorant twat, lol. Political correctness was a weapon created by the marxists with the intent to destroy the west to spread communism. Watch this vid on youtube "The History of Political Correctness (Complete)".
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Are you familiar with the practices of the Ku Klux Klan? Deciding that it's all right to stand alongside those people is really not a good sign.
2) We are biologically different, but why does that mean we should be valued any less/more?
3) Please give me your definition of "authoritarian", I am intrigued. That "link" you posted is so seriously flawed I don't even know where to begin.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. If you were talking to a KKK member, would that make you a hater?
2. Yes, we're biologically different, and mentally different. Fact, website "howstuffworks" tipe in Do men and women have different brains? First one at the top.
3. Authoritarian = Favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, esp. that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom. Now, do you support the political correctness in society today?
And where was the flaws in the link? It was all fact.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Not if you were arguing against them.
2) Why does that mean that we should not be valued equally?
3) Define "authority". In this society it is, obviously, the ruling class, the banks, big business, the government. In this case I am not an authoritarian. In Socialist society it would be everyone. In which case I am, but I believe the term to be redundant in this regard.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. So if you were TALKING, to a KKK member, that makes you a hater. Why? Because i didnt hear him say anything hateful, or authoritarian for that matter.
2. Well why aren't plants and animals treated equally?
3. You dont have to be the authority to be an authoritarian. If you agree with authoritarianism, that makes you an authoritarian. And the same goes for political correctness. Tell me, do you advocate communism?
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ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) If you listen to what he's saying you'll see WHY he doesn't say anything like that.
2) In this society they pretty much are (unless they're pets), but the thing is that animals are sentient, whereas plants are not.
3) Yes, I advocate Communism, and before you ask; no, I am not a Stalinist.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Ah, so your saying the BNP are lying then?
2. Things are only treated the same if they are the same. Things that are different get treated differently because of the reasons why their different. Sorry if i cant put it more clearly then that.
3. Well if you belive in communism then you're either very ignorant, or a liberal authoritarian, especially if you agree with political correctness. Why? Because libertarian communism cannot exist, because people are naturally greedy.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Not exactly; I'm saying that they are using purposefully misleading language.
2) Let's say you have two children, and let's, for the sake of argument, say that they are both boys. They are of course different, but would you value them differently?
3) I do not accept that people are "naturally greedy". In this society greed is necessary for survival, but we will not always live in this society.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. So your saying the BNP use half-truths (ie, lying)?
2. If their differences were relevant to something important, yes. But dont get me wrong, i would love them both just as much.
3. Really? Why dont you do a bit of research on the once perfect liberal socialist society, the soviet union. Not everybody was treated equally. Example, people in goverment were treated much better than everyone else. Why? Because people are greedy, and they had the power.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) I am saying (and they are saying too) that they use "safe" terms no mean things that most people would not otherwise accept.
2) So why would you not value men and women the same? Men and women have far more similarities than differences and the differences are not "relevant to [anything] important".
3) I have already said that I am not a Stalinist. With Stalin the Soviet Union became a State-Capitalist system, much like China today. I do not advocate either.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Well, their either lying or telling the truth, pick one.
2. Well on alot of things men and women should be valued the same on. But just because there's more similarities than differences doesnt mean the differences aren't relevant.
3. Your missing the point. The point is libertarian communism cant exist because people are greedy, if you give power to the people, the people use it. Libertarian communism is ironic, so if you belive in communism your an authoritarian.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) No; Life (and language) is not that simple.
2) Give me at least on of these differences which are relevant.
3) I don't think you understand Communism. I believe that when there is an absence (abolition) of ruling classes (and class in general) people will not be quite so "greedy". I am certainly not a Libertarian. When Communism comes in to place everyone effectively becomes the state.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Well yes it is, people either tell the truth, lie, or half truths (ie, lying).
2. Women are the birth givers and men are physically stronger. Are you telling me that those aren't relevant differences?
3. I do. Communism, the idea of a classless society were everyone is treated 100% equally, the problem being that people are not equal. And your idea of greed will go away when class goes away has already been proved wrong, time and time again. And if your not a libertarian your a?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Study language, and then get back to me.
2) To how they should be valued? Yes.
3) This is the mistake you are making; people are not the same, but they ARE equal (or should be). Your idea that Capitalism works has been proven wrong time and time again. The problem of achieving Communism in this age is that almost everywhere is not Communist, this has been the most common cause for destroyed Communist states. I am not a Libertarian, I am a Communist.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Explain.
2. What do you mean by value? Because men & women are more or less valued at different things, for good reasons.
3. (people are not the same, but they ARE equal)? Equal = A person or thing considered to be the same as another in status or quality. And I never said capitalism doesnt have problems, but when it works, it works well, whereas communism NEVER WORKS. Your an authoritarian.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Language is not written in stone; any number of people may have any number of meanings for any one word (or set of words).
2) I mean basically this (from Google):
"The regard that something is held to deserve; the importance or preciousness of something."
If you mean that men are valued for being physically strong and women are valued for having babies, you only need to step out into the real world to see that that is not the case.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
3) People are not "the same", but they are of "equal value". Communism has worked. The problem is sustaining it in a Capitalist world. Capitalism is a cycle of relative good and absolute bad. It cannot be any other way. I am not an Authoritarian because I believe that authority should be the people and not any sort of oligarchy.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. So if hes not telling the truth or lying, what is he saying?
2. So if you needed to employ people to do heavy lifting, you would have 50% women, because we need to be vauled the same?
3.Did you not read my dictionary definition of equal? It hasnt, there has never been a true communist society, true communism can not exist because people are naturally greedy.
4. You cant, not be an authoritarian if your not a Libertarian. You cant be neutral, unless your neutral in politics too.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) He's saying the same old things in a new language.
2) Yes. But I wouldn't go out of my way to make sure that I did have 50% of each.
3) I take it you don't (I'm going to assume you're still in education) study History. People are not naturally greedy. If they were we wouldn't have survived as a species this long.
4) Put it this way; I am Authoritarian for the people, which as far as I'm concerned makes the term meaningless. The world is not black and white.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. And was the old things true?= That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality. Or lies?= Used with reference to a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression.
2. Well if you didnt then you would be a sexist.
3. No im not still in education, and i didnt study history in school, but i do study it at home for fun. Ok then, if we are not naturally greedy, what started greed off in the first place? I mean i've already proved that by the fact that-------
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) The old things as in them denying the Holocaust and saying that black people are scum blablabla? N
2) Um...nope. If I said that women (or men) SHOULDN'T do the job, then I would be sexist.
3) I don't know. There has always been some greed, of course, but on this scale we'd have to go back to the earliest civilisations to find out.
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@ignoranttwat 1. Ok, now your just using critical theory. Those are opinions, old opinions, im talking about their facts and promises. So one last time, are you saying the BNP are lying about their facts and promises? Or are they telling the truth?
2. But women should do the job. Why? I mean are you saying when it comes to heavy lifting, on majority women can do just as good a job as men?
3. What you dont understand is there are levels of greed. If nobody was then nothing would happen.
4. Hello?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Are they lying in saying that they are not a far right party? Yes. Are They lying in saying that they are not racist? Yes. Is language a solid construct? no.
2) Most women are not as physically strong as most men, but if I woman is able to do a heavy lifting job then there is no reason why she shouldn't. Averages are just averages and don't mean much in the real world.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Do the BNP say they ARE a far-right party? Yes. Do the BNP claim that europeans and/or British people are superior to everyone else? No, hence not racist.
Now, back to the real question. Are you saying the BNP are lying about their facts and promises? Or are they telling the truth?
2. That's not what i asked you. On majority can women do just as good a job as men when it comes to heavy lifting?
3. Do you think i think that greed is the only thing that drives people-------------
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) I'm certain that they have said numerous times that they are not on the far-right, have they changed their minds since I stopped paying attention to them? Just because they don't "claim" that white people are superior it doesn't mean that they are not racist. As for the "real question", I would say that they are not being realistic with their facts and they are sincere with their "promises", but there are also things which they hold back, things which would make...
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Well when did you stop paying attention? To my knowledge the BNP have always been openly far-right. "Just because they don't "claim" that white people are superior it doesn't mean that they are not racist."... Really? Thats not what the dictionary says.
Rac·ist
noun
1.A person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
adjective
1.Having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another.
2. Thank you. So by the argument that-------------------
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) I stopped paying attention when they started plotting to kill each other. Watch some Griffin interviews, he openly denies right-wingedness. Racism can also be the belief that one (or more) "race" is (are) inferior, and some things which we know (they are all on YouTube) about the BNP (and Griffin in particular) strongly suggest that he is certainly racist.
2) A job should go to who is best suited for it regardless of their sex.
3) Your statements are not...
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Ok, now i think your just making shit up. I gave you the definition of racist, and the reason why the BNP are not, and all your doing is just cutting hairs. Really, when did you stop paying attention to the BNP? 1990?
Rac·ism
noun
1.The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race , especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
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Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) I'm starting to think that YOU don't know much about the BNP.
2) A sex is not better or worse than a job, an individual is. Perhaps men are on average better a heavy lifting; this does not mean that women should be discriminated against for such a job. As I have said, some women will be better at it than some men. It doesn't mean anything.
3) There's no need to be cocky about it, the question had ambiguous context. And no, I am not satisfied with life....
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. How old you? And what year did you stop paying attention to the BNP? Because, dont take this the wrong way, but you sound like my mum, a 40 something year old women that only remembers the very old BNP.
2. I never said they should be discriminated. My point is, men & women cant be valued equally, because on majority their better or worse at different things/jobs.
3. You live in a first world country, why aren't you content? And, do you want to be?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) I am 35, how old are you? I live in the present, not in the past. I stopped paying attention when all that Mark Collett murder plot started. It didn't matter whether it was true or not, it showed that they wouldn't be around for much longer either way.
2) As I said before, equal=/=the same.
3) I am not content because though I may be lucky where I live many others are not, and to say that what we have here is good is also wrong (though it is of course not nearly...
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Im 19, it says so on my channel. So... you stopped paying attention in 2010, because of that?
2. So, whats your point? Because my point is, in some jobs, a person's sex should be relevant.
3. Well, if your not content (for what ever reason) and you want to be, then your greedy.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Yes, because it destroyed the public's view of them, whereas before that they were almost managing to convince some people that they had changed.
2) My point is that the people who are best for the job should get the job, if it happened to be a woman then it doesn't matter, even if the job generally attracts more men.
3) I'm greedy for wanting a better world for everyone?
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Well, your opinion doesnt really stand up to the math, does it? I mean think about it, every year the BNP's vote has been consistently going up, in numbers, and percentage.
2. Yes, but when people do that, what happens? The feminists say "to many men in this job, how sexist" Thats how feminism is irrational.
3. Yes, you want more, ie a better world to live in. Even if you want it for everyone is irrelevant, greed is there because people want more. Thats my point, if-------------
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Where are you from? And we haven't had much voting going on in 2011, and the votes that did happen they lost A LOT.
2) We're more talking about things that men and women have an equal chance of being capable at.
3) So you're saying that I'm greedy for saying that suffering is bad?
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Look up the BNP on wikipedia, and look under "General election performance" everything is up.
2. What do you mean? Do you mean you and me? Or feminists in general?
3. No, your greedy because you want more. Your selfish because you lack the consideration of others who do not wish to live in a communist society.
Take a true communist society, a country were everyone has the exact same amout of resources. In this society, everyone has a very small amout of food,-------------------
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Yes, and that was in 2010. I'm pretty sure their popularity has declined since then, or at least that's what the local elections would suggest.
2) I mean Feminists in general.
3) I want more of what? I don't want to live in a Communist society because it would be better for me, I want to live in a Communist society because it would be better for everyone. Why do you assume that in a "true" Communist society everyone would starve?
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. What the hell are you talking about? Thats how math is spelled. Well, hiccups come and go, the main/old parties will fall sone.
2. In that case, not really. All feminism is, is full equality to men, besides when they get treated better.
3. You want more people you be treated more equally, and you dont care about the people who dont care about others.
And i dont assume that, its just a hypothetical to prove people are naturally greedy. Now could you please answer my question?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. What the hell are you talking about? Thats how math is spelled. Well, hiccups come and go, the main/old parties will fall sone.
2. In that case, not really. All feminism is, is full equality to men, besides when they get treated better.
3. You want more people you be treated more equally, and you dont care about the people who dont care about others.
And i dont assume that, its just a hypothetical to prove people are naturally greedy. Now could you please answer my question?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) I'm pretty sure it has an "s" on the end. Either that or I've being living a lie.
2) Read some Feminist literature. And I don't mean Valerie Solanas.
3) I care about them, I want them to have the same living conditions as everyone else, I want them to be as happy as possible, but if their ideology compromises the well-being of others then that is not all right.
Which question?
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. What do you mean by "Either that or I've being living a lie"?
2. Feminism is alot like communism, the ideology is very different to what really happens.
3. So your greedy. Your an excellent example of a hypocrite, because you hate natural human traits, you my as well hate people for thinking.
The question. In a perfect communist society(with famine), are you tell me if someone was staring, they wouldnt naturally WANT more food, even if it means taking it from someone else?
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) I was joking. I don't know if you've noticed but over here we say "maths", not "math". And YOU are the one who supports the British National Party...
2) For Communism, read (or watch on YouTube) some Žižek. Not really sure who to recommend for Feminism, but pretty much anyone who doesn't hate men and who isn't transphobic (or just ignore the transphobic stuff)
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
3) There are some things I do hate in people, yes, I hate selfishness, bigotry, malice etcetera, but I never said people are perfect. There are plenty of good things in people too. No one is bad all the time and no one is good all the time, no matter how hard we may try.
As for the question, of course people would want food (let alone "more"), but why do you suggest that people would being starving in a Communist society?
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1.Ok, lets say you had the power to spread true communism all over the world, and only 1% of all people wanted it, would you do it anyway?
2. "course people would want food" Then people must be, naturally greedy.
Greedy
adjective
1.Having or showing an intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth or power
2.Having an excessive desire or appetite for food
And the only reason i put the hypothetical situation in a true communist society, was so it was in a non-greedy society.
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) Yes.
2) No, any desire which exceeds necessity is greed.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago
@ignoranttwat 1. Then thats means you are a liberal authoritarian, selfish, and greedy.
2. Ah, so are you really telling me if someone killed their siblings over some farmland, because of famine, then that wouldnt be greedy? Greed(1.Intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth, power, or food)
Ionlyfearphobophobia 5 months ago
@Ionlyfearphobophobia
1) It is not greed because I want it for the good of everyone, not just myself.
2) I don't see how that would work, to be honest.
ignoranttwat 5 months ago