I was 12 at the time from a village called clipstone in notts. The bully boy strikers lost big time. The scabs lost big time and every poor fucker who lived and breathed community lost. We can never get the spirit back. Generations hate each other and drugs will eventually ease the memories. Words can't describe the hate that's still there...What a fucking shame people.
i thought it was a gd video brought bk some shivering memories for me im from a mining family dont matter which end of world it is u see mates dads die n then husbands and then try n fight for their own families living, n that was just in my bit, i was lucky my dad lived and husband in disabled ways but still here they are ace try to look after others they wasent thugs or out of order they just wanted a fair job to bring money home to family
Nice video but your wrong to pigeon hole people like that i.e working classes supported Labour and the middle and upper classes supported the Conservatives. If it weren't for the working classes in the south (towns like Basildon for example) Thatcher would have struggled to get into government. The other side of the coin is true as well, Labour got it's fair share of middle class voters post election 83.
not all Notts were scabs, some did go on strike but nature of the county as moderates made this no. small. the divisions were terrible, my grandad was a scab and my uncle was a striker-never talked for years
What is the difference between a scab and someone who thinks for themselves. I know a Bilsthorpe guy who carried on working because he wouldnt be told what to do but if there had been a ballot probably would have voted yes.
the thing is if this woman was to stand next year in a general election as say a 50 year old how many people would vote for her ? to fucking many is my thought
You on fear people having views like hers because of the derangement syndrome baby-boomers have formulated from the cult of her archetype.
I can't say much for her foreign policies but domestically Britain was lifted out of a hole: I also hate to point out that the state of the country's finances require a Thatcher more than anything.
Who the fuck would want to be a coal miner in the 21st century?
ere we go ere we go ere we go ere.south wales south wales.i'll be there i'll be there with my little pick and shovel i'll be there.big respect to all striking miners from all at the cardiff city soul crew.nuff respect.
DEATH OF THE UNIONS ive noticed your stance against the freedom of every man and woman to withdraw their labour is a soft spot with you.What do expect communities to do when a tryrant wants not only to take away your income and the future of your children,but the very reason to instill into your children that work is an ethic that is totally cruciall to any society.
You can go on strike if you want to but dont expect your job back at the end of it or people to bow down to you. How were the militant unions accountable to the general public for their behaviour ??? Again why dont you buy the coal mines yourself. (Oh yea what did you think of Derek Hatton ??? Lefty Arthur Daley or what ??)
Bang on mate! She split tight communities up and replaced them with rubbish which the remaining decent people have to live amongst or get out if they can.
Do you notice that the sensible comments are by people who arent realy political but just say it as it is - such as eyevanblack - whilst pricks like joeporta just talk crap and achieve nothing - a bit like scargill, weggie, galloway and all that rubbish.
sorry to upset you. I think the technical work of the video is good its just the whole subject pisses me off not your work. Sorry again. Keep making films please! I hate the mass media. Scumbags.
Fair do's, you didn't upset me. Im thinking of doing another miners strike video soon with interviews and that, this all happened before I was born so its intresting to see and hear peoples views
cool,the media manipulated the masses into believing the miners were thugs, ill be having a good drink when the wicked witch dies, that woman is hated and a disgrace of a human being, an oxygen thief she is.
THOUGHT IT WAS A CRAP VDEO TALKING ABOUT THE MEDIA only THE MEDIA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, GET REAL THOSE ARE REAL PEOPLE AND REAL LIVES SOLD DOWN THE RIVER BY EVIL THATCHER. A GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE. THATCHER WAS FOR HERSELF AND HER GANG, THE RICH, THE AMERICANS, WAR, B FROM HELL AND ALL THE FOOLS WHO FOLLOWED HER. A REAL GOVT WOULD HAVE TAKEN RESPONSABILITY FOR THE MINERS AND THOSE WHOLE REGIONS OF THEIR BRITAIN. THAT _ FD THEM AND LAUGHED
31 seconds in to the video there is a slide that says how did the media portray the strike and did they give the miners a bad reputation. It was a 5 mintue presentation I couldn't of got every aspect of the strike in. I think the slides saying the media missed the suffering of everyday people supports your those are real people comment. If you hate it that much make your own video....now jog on
scargill was my union leader, did what we wanted him too, you people will never understand, britain lost, not just us miners, scabby notts bastards, and the media, TUC betrayal, long live KING ARTHUR, we,ll always love ya mate, now start the revolution, this time, WE WILL WIN, ere we go ere we go ere we goooooooo
A poignant, well constructed vid. Good one for invoking the propaganda slant. Hope the youth watch this and start gettin the idea about active and passive viewing. Mind you, its not just the youth now is it,there's plenty of closed narrow minded older folks out there too who need enlightening and educating.
Its only through the benefit of informed empathetic hindsight that I've been able to recognise the tragedy off the whole situation: what it started and where its led us.
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scargill ordered people out on strike on the 1st of May. what a great time to have a coal strike. what a total twaaat. Personally I dont see the point in a coal industry if the scum num cant be arsed to go to work.
they was putting tools down for the slighest thing, unions are good if the union leaders are sensible people, not penis's like prick king arthur, who did'nt feel the pinch, cos he was rich, but the simple brain dead miners, did'nt notice arthur was getting fatter by the day, my missus's dad was,in the strikes, they was porpers,she was given an home made barbie doll house xmas,and charity,. the miners were thick as two short planks.and twice as silly
The thing was the miners had lost right from the start and the idiot who led them through all of that should have been honest from the start and said "look chaps they have 12 years worth of coal stock piled and so when we go out don't think you will come back because it will tip the scales of how much the country thinks they need coal and to put up with 3 day working weeks etc". At the end of the day the unions were destroying this country in general. We need thatcher back now sort things out
Twelve years worth of stocks?But you may have a point of the timing;when do you say enough is enough? Ask for Thatcher returning; she and the tories may have put monies in peoples' pockets, but the huge magority had a shit load anyway! We lost and we know it, but all of us are paying the price now. Gas,electric and water;all privatised under Mrs T.I fought tooth and nail in something;a way of life, I believed in. Not many people can say that!! Wake up kid!!
18 years of age in '84; no money,got arrested,got dumped,fought weekly wi' scabs;one of the best fuckin' years of my life! Why? Wised up to the government,TUC,police,media,judicial service Etc. Only a handful of pits open now, heroin epidemics in run down pit communities, gas,petrol and electric prices sky high!!
Most people who slag our struggle off, most probably never fought for something they believed in and never will!!!
Great video!!! Viva le Scargill,'ten years too late!!'
@Ppolly66 Asa12 monther myself with 2 brothers and my dad in the same boat i hope that bastard thatcher realises what she has done cos its too late to turn the clocks back now all we have left is broken banks a stuffed economy and more teenage junkies with no hope of a proper job
spelled ??? there is no such word, carry on making a fool of yourself.learn grammar thick cunt, but then again you more than likely to have had your face in your grandmothers cunt most of your life you are a fucking idiot
We owe these people so much, never have so few given so much to so many, same for The Liverpool Dockers,. Don't believe me? get the CASA in Hope Street Liverpool. True Socialism
Socialism doesn't work. The only way it would work is if everyone was forced to follow the same rules and only be able to do the same things. Otherwise some people will automatically do better or want more.
I was 12 at the time from a village called clipstone in notts. The bully boy strikers lost big time. The scabs lost big time and every poor fucker who lived and breathed community lost. We can never get the spirit back. Generations hate each other and drugs will eventually ease the memories. Words can't describe the hate that's still there...What a fucking shame people.
gibraltaradscom 1 year ago
scargill is at fault for the destruction of our pits
pyro999maniac 1 year ago
@pyro999maniac bull fuckin shit!! It was planned since 72!!
vivascargill 1 year ago
i thought it was a gd video brought bk some shivering memories for me im from a mining family dont matter which end of world it is u see mates dads die n then husbands and then try n fight for their own families living, n that was just in my bit, i was lucky my dad lived and husband in disabled ways but still here they are ace try to look after others they wasent thugs or out of order they just wanted a fair job to bring money home to family
mateyla321 1 year ago
look at some other media analysts... eg: medialens
Hoxification 1 year ago
Nice video but your wrong to pigeon hole people like that i.e working classes supported Labour and the middle and upper classes supported the Conservatives. If it weren't for the working classes in the south (towns like Basildon for example) Thatcher would have struggled to get into government. The other side of the coin is true as well, Labour got it's fair share of middle class voters post election 83.
Freddie1980 1 year ago
The media will not show what the miners were fighting for. Only the miners will know what they were fighting for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stercus2759 1 year ago
nothing has changed they only want us to believe so
stercus2759 1 year ago
Cool vid. I was always intrigued at the media aspects in my degree so I always chose those related questions for assignments too.
Warbrain88 1 year ago
Capitalism the legalised robbery of the working class. a false limit to our humanity
arzoyan 1 year ago
Unions should not have the kind of control that they were allowed in the UK in the 1970s.
MrDS67 1 year ago
england no industry,import everthing
chipbutty1970 2 years ago
miners working class hero's
chipbutty1970 2 years ago 2
miners are scum, wasting billions of tax payer money for producing mini amounts of coal.
stevehwan 2 years ago
would like to bump into you ,just to educate you,you seem to have a problem,your arse and your gob are too near oneanother.
wiganjoe 1 year ago
@stevehwan ...some kind of cunt..u got to be..pathetic ..no other word for you...maybe nobsack?
agaichapter25 1 year ago
Capitalism is a dirty business.
TheComradeRoss 2 years ago
Miners are cunts
rbbrlvr 2 years ago
not all Notts were scabs, some did go on strike but nature of the county as moderates made this no. small. the divisions were terrible, my grandad was a scab and my uncle was a striker-never talked for years
WAJJER1990 2 years ago
What is the difference between a scab and someone who thinks for themselves. I know a Bilsthorpe guy who carried on working because he wouldnt be told what to do but if there had been a ballot probably would have voted yes.
deathtotheunions 2 years ago
thatcher to brown is there any light at the end of the tunnel? me thinks not :(
phoebuzzer 2 years ago
the thing is if this woman was to stand next year in a general election as say a 50 year old how many people would vote for her ? to fucking many is my thought
campoking 2 years ago
You on fear people having views like hers because of the derangement syndrome baby-boomers have formulated from the cult of her archetype.
I can't say much for her foreign policies but domestically Britain was lifted out of a hole: I also hate to point out that the state of the country's finances require a Thatcher more than anything.
Who the fuck would want to be a coal miner in the 21st century?
fomastephanovitch 2 years ago
i fucking would,you nob jockey
DOGJOKY 2 years ago
Are you sure it's a free choice?
Generally when someone throws an insult like that at you their station is forced upon them.
Enjoy scrounging round in the dirt do you?
fomastephanovitch 2 years ago 2
ere we go ere we go ere we go ere.south wales south wales.i'll be there i'll be there with my little pick and shovel i'll be there.big respect to all striking miners from all at the cardiff city soul crew.nuff respect.
bigloubhoy 2 years ago 5
DEATH OF THE UNIONS ive noticed your stance against the freedom of every man and woman to withdraw their labour is a soft spot with you.What do expect communities to do when a tryrant wants not only to take away your income and the future of your children,but the very reason to instill into your children that work is an ethic that is totally cruciall to any society.
eatmypies 2 years ago 2
You can go on strike if you want to but dont expect your job back at the end of it or people to bow down to you. How were the militant unions accountable to the general public for their behaviour ??? Again why dont you buy the coal mines yourself. (Oh yea what did you think of Derek Hatton ??? Lefty Arthur Daley or what ??)
deathtotheunions 2 years ago
you are a hooker who fucks tories for money you filthy whore.
ninianbhoys 2 years ago
Darlings I dont have sex with them I whip them - remember the more edukated you are the more kinky you are.
deathtotheunions 2 years ago
death of the unions great grandparents were probably workhouse owners.right wing tory shit cunt.
bigloubhoy 2 years ago
Smack dealers thriving in former steel and pit towns. Madame Thatchers free enterprise a roaring success after all.
RashidDostum 3 years ago 2
Bang on mate! She split tight communities up and replaced them with rubbish which the remaining decent people have to live amongst or get out if they can.
captaincavemaaaannn 2 years ago
The epitome of the Thatcher years,
the destruction of communities and the breaking of social bonds, surreptitious police agitators and of course enforced brutality.
A 5 by 5 video.
psuedosurfer 3 years ago
Do you notice that the sensible comments are by people who arent realy political but just say it as it is - such as eyevanblack - whilst pricks like joeporta just talk crap and achieve nothing - a bit like scargill, weggie, galloway and all that rubbish.
deathtotheunions 3 years ago
you are obviously a thatcherite do you wank over her pictures you fucking scumbag.
bigloubhoy 2 years ago
Sorry is it illegal to be to the right of Scargill and co - ps do you wank over scargill in miner uniform ???
deathtotheunions 2 years ago
sorry to upset you. I think the technical work of the video is good its just the whole subject pisses me off not your work. Sorry again. Keep making films please! I hate the mass media. Scumbags.
andrewharrisleeds 3 years ago 3
Fair do's, you didn't upset me. Im thinking of doing another miners strike video soon with interviews and that, this all happened before I was born so its intresting to see and hear peoples views
earley15 3 years ago
@earley15
cool,the media manipulated the masses into believing the miners were thugs, ill be having a good drink when the wicked witch dies, that woman is hated and a disgrace of a human being, an oxygen thief she is.
doveyabas33 1 year ago
THOUGHT IT WAS A CRAP VDEO TALKING ABOUT THE MEDIA only THE MEDIA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, GET REAL THOSE ARE REAL PEOPLE AND REAL LIVES SOLD DOWN THE RIVER BY EVIL THATCHER. A GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE. THATCHER WAS FOR HERSELF AND HER GANG, THE RICH, THE AMERICANS, WAR, B FROM HELL AND ALL THE FOOLS WHO FOLLOWED HER. A REAL GOVT WOULD HAVE TAKEN RESPONSABILITY FOR THE MINERS AND THOSE WHOLE REGIONS OF THEIR BRITAIN. THAT _ FD THEM AND LAUGHED
andrewharrisleeds 3 years ago
31 seconds in to the video there is a slide that says how did the media portray the strike and did they give the miners a bad reputation. It was a 5 mintue presentation I couldn't of got every aspect of the strike in. I think the slides saying the media missed the suffering of everyday people supports your those are real people comment. If you hate it that much make your own video....now jog on
earley15 3 years ago
@andrewharrisleeds right--look at what they did to Arthur! Don't see Joe and Davy mentioned! Fuck the media!
vivascargill 1 year ago
@andrewharrisleeds The Americans were in on it!!
vivascargill1 2 days ago
im wi ppolly
scargill was my union leader, did what we wanted him too, you people will never understand, britain lost, not just us miners, scabby notts bastards, and the media, TUC betrayal, long live KING ARTHUR, we,ll always love ya mate, now start the revolution, this time, WE WILL WIN, ere we go ere we go ere we goooooooo
joeporta 3 years ago
very true my brother notts scabs will be remembered in history.big up from south wales.
bigloubhoy 2 years ago
agreed..fuckin notts scabs...
importedmusic 2 years ago
scargill was a hero,he had the guts to stand up to that cunt thatcher
SouthDownIPLO 3 years ago 2
A poignant, well constructed vid. Good one for invoking the propaganda slant. Hope the youth watch this and start gettin the idea about active and passive viewing. Mind you, its not just the youth now is it,there's plenty of closed narrow minded older folks out there too who need enlightening and educating.
Its only through the benefit of informed empathetic hindsight that I've been able to recognise the tragedy off the whole situation: what it started and where its led us.
"Get-up Stand-up"
obviouslyFAKE2 3 years ago 3
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scargill ordered people out on strike on the 1st of May. what a great time to have a coal strike. what a total twaaat. Personally I dont see the point in a coal industry if the scum num cant be arsed to go to work.
deathtotheunions 3 years ago
they was putting tools down for the slighest thing, unions are good if the union leaders are sensible people, not penis's like prick king arthur, who did'nt feel the pinch, cos he was rich, but the simple brain dead miners, did'nt notice arthur was getting fatter by the day, my missus's dad was,in the strikes, they was porpers,she was given an home made barbie doll house xmas,and charity,. the miners were thick as two short planks.and twice as silly
owzabout 3 years ago
The thing was the miners had lost right from the start and the idiot who led them through all of that should have been honest from the start and said "look chaps they have 12 years worth of coal stock piled and so when we go out don't think you will come back because it will tip the scales of how much the country thinks they need coal and to put up with 3 day working weeks etc". At the end of the day the unions were destroying this country in general. We need thatcher back now sort things out
eyevanblack 3 years ago
Twelve years worth of stocks?But you may have a point of the timing;when do you say enough is enough? Ask for Thatcher returning; she and the tories may have put monies in peoples' pockets, but the huge magority had a shit load anyway! We lost and we know it, but all of us are paying the price now. Gas,electric and water;all privatised under Mrs T.I fought tooth and nail in something;a way of life, I believed in. Not many people can say that!! Wake up kid!!
Ppolly66 3 years ago 3
Yea and this pc web warrior friggerme100 proberbly was making the cops tea at the time.
And I guess you get every spelling right dont you dick head.
k3dude 3 years ago
18 years of age in '84; no money,got arrested,got dumped,fought weekly wi' scabs;one of the best fuckin' years of my life! Why? Wised up to the government,TUC,police,media,judicial service Etc. Only a handful of pits open now, heroin epidemics in run down pit communities, gas,petrol and electric prices sky high!!
Most people who slag our struggle off, most probably never fought for something they believed in and never will!!!
Great video!!! Viva le Scargill,'ten years too late!!'
Ppolly66 3 years ago 5
@Ppolly66 Asa12 monther myself with 2 brothers and my dad in the same boat i hope that bastard thatcher realises what she has done cos its too late to turn the clocks back now all we have left is broken banks a stuffed economy and more teenage junkies with no hope of a proper job
nogarange 1 year ago
frigger100 ''int it grim upt north err by ek''
Int it grim in your neck of the woods i bet the winter nights fly by in your house.
who cride the most in 1984 when they got hit eh thats right the cops well all i can say is i gave as good as i got and im proud to say so.
k3dude 3 years ago 2
Another NUMB pit man. Cried is spelled this way IDIOT
Frigger100 3 years ago
spelled ??? there is no such word, carry on making a fool of yourself.learn grammar thick cunt, but then again you more than likely to have had your face in your grandmothers cunt most of your life you are a fucking idiot
wiganjoe 3 years ago
int it grim upt north err by ek
Frigger100 3 years ago
We owe these people so much, never have so few given so much to so many, same for The Liverpool Dockers,. Don't believe me? get the CASA in Hope Street Liverpool. True Socialism
whurlyned 3 years ago
ITs what happens with this country fook the ones that feed it
northern198 3 years ago
Socialism doesn't work. The only way it would work is if everyone was forced to follow the same rules and only be able to do the same things. Otherwise some people will automatically do better or want more.
eyevanblack 3 years ago
Yep - these people destroy jobs like no other - magic (????)
deathtotheunions 2 years ago
No this was a small part of it just to give a very general background to the strike.
earley15 3 years ago
This counts as university-level work now?
belisariusorb 3 years ago 2
1984
earley15 3 years ago
Good Video very Interesting, do you know what year most of the pics where from??
Like 1921, 1984, 1910 because there were a lot of miners strikes.
Razo5678 3 years ago
1984
anarchy4theuk222 3 years ago