Hannibal - Rome's Worst Nightmare Part 3

[rfgordan]

@cvnbvx Napoleon did it too albeit with more modern equipment, but there's a famous painting on it

[xRemRooodx]

Even "Asterix" learn us about France was Gaul haha

[dolandaka]

Absolutely, in my year six class only 2 other people have even heard of Carthage or Gaul. It just shows history is written by the winners.

[HortonGourcuff]

the french were called gauls lmao i love that name

[cvnbvx]

Carthage army was the only one to ever go through Alps, noone after Hannibal till today thought to cross Alps in any season. He was the greatest General in the history ever

[mrmemanme]

@cvnbvx Actually Survovs army managed it, suvorov was probs as good as hannibal. But nobody has heard of him :(

[itsvideos3]

@mrmemanme a russian general in the 18th centuray who never lost a battle an i right?

[mrmemanme]

@itsvideos3 correct!!! complete legend, he would have taught napoloen a thing or two if he got the chance :D

[itsvideos3]

@mrmemanme died in 1800 so .... soo close.. but at the same time even if he did live for a few more years i dont think he would have been healthy enough to lead a battle :( still a legend thow

[mrmemanme]

@itsvideos3 no, yo are probs right. however i think i is sad that everybody forgets what a great general he was and people only go on and on about napoloen who was utterly brilliant, but there where better men.

[balletbod1]

Nuts...

[SirBrianCabrera]

if you watch hbo rome, the narrator is pompey!

[0zzy07]

Gotta love the arrogant and brave Romans

[aviles1323]

my hats off to hannibal but at the end he fell to the greatest empire the world has ever seen rome

[VincentVonDoom47]

is it known if some of the elelphants made it through the alps? what number if so?

[TheGrenadercat]

@VincentVonDoom47 after hannibal crossed the alps 20 elephants were left

[puchy110]

Lets say as an alternative for crossing the Alps, Hannibal fought the Romans at the coast, would he have had lost more men fighting the romans there, or crossing the alps

[lewisgunner1]

Rome saved the world from destruction by fighting in the Punic wars against the North African city of Carthage

[TheShadowwolf88]

@lewisgunner1

Actually Rome caused little nut destruction by being obstinate in their refusal to surrender!

Their victory heralded the end of the republic and birth of the empire!

[Snotlingfondler]

i thought the elephants never made it through the alps?

[Jathniel3]

sigh they made this hannibal into a classical dr house

best combo evur

[zazenzach]

lol they called gaul "france."

[MrSevkebab]

@TrueMotility28 What about enemy troops, they die as well

[TrueMotility28]

i thought they got 50k troops, but the narrator said a total of 70k troops died wtf i dont get it

[JEREX101]

@TrueMotility28 the narrator has it wrong.........the narrators are not always true....a total of 50k troops died not 70k....ok so dont get worried

[hobojoes22]

@TrueMotility28 hannibal was only talking about the people who died in the alps

[TrueMotility28]

@hobojoes22 damn that many killed..tsk2x im glad i was born in this century

[Vexille1983]

Neither Spain or France existed as geographic terms until well into the Medieval period. Damn these anachronisms.

[CroGamer002]

@Vexille1983

Well people also talk in perfect modern English. Be happy that they got lot of stuff correct at all.

[milodara93]

at 6:25 he said fart

[williamxiji]

they refer to gaul as france. why?

[norcofreerider604]

@williamxiji Because most people wouldn't know what you're talking about if you're referring to Gaul. A sadly revealing fact about the poor state of history education in schools these days...

[woodwyrm]

@williamxiji it was known as gaul back then, it was after the Western Roman Empire collapsed that that land would be start to be called land of the franks or france^^

[SilenceCallsTheMovie]

@williamxiji because it is a stupid documentary with no connection to names, places, tribes and time. the second part of the documentary begins with a man speaking a slavic language, slavic languages came to existance during the medieval times, hannibal lived in the later ancient times, it is like mixing Dean martin with Lady Gaga...stupid documentary

[SloveintzWend]

@SilenceCallsTheMovie Is it really a Slavic language? it does sound like some Polish dialect, but if it is, the old guy is talking totally out of the context. I don't understand a word of the language, and they say Slavic languages are fairly related.

I also doubt that they came to existence DURING medieval times. They were Slavic tribal groups already known in the Antiquity like Venedi and Antes.

[SilenceCallsTheMovie]

@SloveintzWend polish is also a slavic language

[cuzcatlan36]

to go through all that trouble for war is crazy!

[PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD]

Hannibal's crossing the Alps reminded me of where the good guys in Lord of the Rings try to go through the mountains to get to Mordor.

Except Hannibal actually had the balls to go through it.

But in all seriousness that is an incredible feat.

[dragdev]

What the Fuck was in that wine it destroyed a bolder

[HawkeyesMKV]

@dragdev cold wine plus hot fire. quick temperature changes make the boulder brittle, easy to smash.

[FreeeeS]

damn african elephants are much larger then indian ones how on earth did the carhageneans tamed them or able to capture them

[unapologeticmind]

@FreeeeS They used a smaller now extinct subgroup of African elephants...

[MrUnclepeanuts]

so in swedish fart means on? lol?

6:27

[chiggevara]

@MrUnclepeanuts

"Sätt fart" would translate as "hurry up" or "make haste", or in this case "come on".

"Sätt" basically meens "engage in", "apply", "place" or something along those lines and "fart" meens "speed" or "haste". So it would translate as "engage in haste", if you would like to translate it straight off.

A quick lesson in swedish for you, uncle peanuts! =)

[alexross8]

@chiggevara

I am guessing that "fart" is a cognate of Old English "ferod" (fared) which also means to make haste or journey.

[chiggevara]

@alexross8

I am guessing that we just upgraded to another degree of total awesomeness!

[alexross8]

@chiggevara

Indeed!

Fart thee well.

[Daski69]

@MrUnclepeanuts it means speed

[followernumber1]

He may have bee brutal but I see how brilliant he was

[alanoasiss]

@followernumber1 Brutality was pretty useful in that eras, now we use gunpowder. It's pure sharp shooting skill, just a bit of brutality in close quarter combat.

You need to make a mix of both brutality and rational thinking. Now is less brutality and more thinking, technology and skill.

[HistoryLover1550]

Hannibal had gutts to dare to cross the Alps.

[mazrimtaim10]

So wine on rocks + fire equals kaboom?

[Str4t0sPh3rE]

@mazrimtaim10 Probably something to do with chemistry that we non-chemist people don't know. =)

[lion3p0]

@mazrimtaim10 well it was viniger type derived from spoiled wine but still wine

[Kulmataklaus]

The sheer determination of these men crossing the Alps with full war gear while comrades freezing to death alongside and angry natives making contact is nothing short of amazing.

To imagine outrageos such as this to have existed so long ago only to wage war against the mightiest military machine of all time.

[dansnikolayevich]

70 000 FRK

[createsutoo]

Hannibal was considered invincile, he was the only one to ever go through those alps, noone back then thought it was possible to get through there in any season.

He was also likened to Alexander the Great.

Genius.

[Whoizcasper]

@createsutoo But he was beaten by one of the if not the greatest general of all time cornelius scipio

[nono3711]

lucky me that i found one with swedish subtitles

[ulongkoror]

200 miles of glaciers and ice mountains?!?!?!

DAMN those guys were hardcore.might sound stupid to say but,couldnt they go around it?genghis khan solved the problem with china's great wall by simply,going around =P

[HawkeyesMKV]

@ulongkoror going around the alps would have taken too much time, by the time they would have went around, they would have come face to face with the full roman army, completely ready. they wouldnt have won ticinus, trasimene, trebbia, etc

[u2hubbard]

Fucks that I would rather have fought the Romans head on.

[englishfrenchgerman]

That scene with the wine and fire really suprised me first time I saw it. I had no idea that anyone in 218 BC had such knowledge of chemistry

[HANNIBALbengal]

@englishfrenchgerman

Asia's history is a lot older then 10 000yrs old.

History in certain part of the world is comical.

[koveras13]

det passar bättre än fortsätt!

[koveras13]

en bättre överstättinig är sätt fart!

[koveras13]

4,12 to 4,42 is my favourite-scene in the whole movie. So powerful. I had followed Hannibal to death.

[RDJ1109]

Satt fart!

[88Thyra]

When the White man puts his mind to an impossible goal , even when against your own kind , genius reveals itself .

[blacklion105]

@88Thyra Yeah but only problem their is Hannibal was black LOL

[steveharrismetalgod]

I'm not very good at physics so I don't get it-how did he brake the rock blocking his way?was it due to the different temperatures of the(theoreticaly) cold wine and hot fire?(contraction-expantion)

[Guitarvirtuoso666]

wine is a little bit inaccurate,

I've read latin text about this manoevre

He used vinegar to break the rocks

Vinegar acts like an acid on rocks:)

Of course the boulders didn't explode like that, they were weakened so that his soldiers could easily break through them with their swords

PS. Iron Maiden is an awesome band!

[steveharrismetalgod]

haha!thanks a lot man!apprecciate the information!cheers!

[karpfenfeatsalg]

i do not understand why hannibal didnt attack rome, when scipio attacked carthage?!

[rangerbobcat]

@karpfenfeatsalg He was called back to Carthage by the leadership

of the city.

[karpfenfeatsalg]

@rangerbobcat

ah ok

[MrMoodang]

If I were Hannibal, I would have had the elephants drink the wine.

[ColonelMarksman]

I don't know how the block was in real life, but I would've gotten the elephants to push that stuff out of the way.

[abawi19]

i think only one elephant left when they cross it

[chiggevara]

@abawi19

There were more elephants, and yes, he used vinegar (not wine) to destroy the block. And how would the elephants actually push it?

[abawi19]

who said the elephants gona push it i dint so come the fuck down and i dint say wine

[AvengefulAngel]

Maybe if they dug in 4 or 5 chisels into the rock, with thick ropes tied around them then attached to the elephants, maybe it would pull the rock out. Its an idea.

[Guitarvirtuoso666]

He actually had one elephant left,

I study history at university,

learned about it today:p

[HistoryLover1550]

@Guitarvirtuoso666 that's true

[rekke41]

Damnit, Scipio Africanus was supposed to be 18 years old when Hannibal was in France. That actor looks like he's in his 40s!

[HistoryLover1550]

@rekke41 Ikr, so historically innaccurate

[bashir252]

hes going to stop them at massilia but they cross ariver and pass him

[pgamer4life]

Scipio Africana!!!

[jandkas]

did it just say damn gors at 0:45 because I just saw this in school with all my classmates

[TheDarkFrontier]

damn Gauls lol

Gauls were the tribe that inhabited Ancient France

[TheShadowwolf88]

The gauls was actually more a federation off different celtic tribes inhabiting the land that was called simply Gaul by the romans!

[norseczar27]

@TheShadowwolf88 Yeah until the franks took it over. now its france. woohoo!

[TheShadowwolf88]

@norseczar27

Not just Franks there where many german tribes that invaded when Rome got weaker!

[penguin1818]

@TheShadowwolf88 they were actually Celts that were indeed called guals by the romans. read De Bello Gallico by Caesar it explains the differences between the tribes and how they are organized and such. i am currently reading it in latin lol

[lewisgunner1]

@TheShadowwolf88 what did the Gauls call their land

[TheShadowwolf88]

@lewisgunner1

Not sure I only know what the romans called it... well they actually called all the lands off Gaul,parts of spain central Europe and the british isles "Celtae" I think!

[BreathInSpaceFilmz]

i want a pet elephant so bad!

[LWL91]

swedish..

[JDBFool]

i stand corrected.

[Dorrzo]

not german, their swedish

[SternMann93]

Idiot, they're swedish.

[BenSTA09]

the roman general scipio he was the great great great great uncle of Mark Anotony

[akhan71192]

its swedish for those who want to know.

[sondreus24]

9:52 that guy on the bed was he jerking off?

[Ironfistconsumerist]

Its Gaul you dumbasses lol

[AemiliaPaulla]

Exactly... and Spain didn't exist until the times of Ferdinand and Isabella (should be Hispania) and Italy didn't exist until the middle of the 19th century lol

[KINGKENNYTHEHOLY]

@AemiliaPaulla "Hispania" means "spain".."spain" derived from "spania" short form of hispania..you are thinking of the "iberian penensiula" or "iberia" "hispania" was the name of the roman province after they conquered it following the second punic war(featured here)

[smartspick]

@AemiliaPaulla wrong, "italia" Italy, was the name of the Roman Province that coincided with the borders of Italy today. You're right about Hispania though

[tecna64]

bame the director of this crap lol

[Hendrikdevuile]

I was wondering about the species of elephant Hannibal used.The ones seen the film seem to be Indian elephants, it being doubtful anyway that anybody except Tarzan can tame an African elephant, but how would they have got all the way to Carthage? However, according to Wikipedia "he probably used a now-extinct# third African (sub)species, the North African (Forest) elephant, smaller than its two southern cousins, and presumably easier to domesticate". #Hardly surprising under the circumstances!

[EternianIrish]

For Hendrikdevuile:

Hannibal probably used African forest elephants, they're smaller than Indian elephants or African bush elephats (which were never used in war) and were readily available in the region at the time (the Romans later hunted them to extinction in North Africa). Indian elephants were regarded as the best for war as they were larger and more aggressive than the African variety used. A good book is "War Elephants" by Konstantin Nossov, published by Osprey.

[Hendrikdevuile]

Thanks for the info. It is a pity that Man, who has some choice in whether he fights his neighbour or not, was already involving these magnificent, normally pacific, creatures in his wars and, exacerbated by hunting them, the extinction of an entire species was already underway in the Vth Century BC! Crossing the Alps with them was a daft idea which cost him half his men and several elephants: Hannibal should have waited till his seafaring nation had built enough ships.

[EternianIrish]

I know what you mean about mankind destorying the environment, it is a tragedy. I wouldn't say that Hannibal crossing the Alps was daft though. The man was one of the greatest military minds to ever live. He's up there with the likes of Alexander, Saladin and Sun Tzu. I'm sure if he felt he could have invaded Italy more easily and with less wastage of his army he would have done so. Thats just my opinion though.

[Hendrikdevuile]

Your view of him is well founded, but I don't think any of the other military geniuses you mention took such an appalling risk with all their men (which, admittedly, might have worked if he had marched on Rome). Be that as it may, the Roman generals learned a lot about strategy and tactics from him. Let's say the Alpine caper was the equivalent of Napoleon's (a military genius) and Hitler's (an amateur) invasions of Russia where they also got stuck in the northern winter.

H. was luckier.

[EternianIrish]

He certainly was lucky, but had he crossed the Alps earlier in the year he may have been able to keep a larger portion of his army intact. As it was he did manage to replenish a substantial amount of men by recruiting from the tribes of the area. Had he gone by sea he would almost certainly have been forced to attack Sicily or southern Italy. I don't think he would have been capable of replenishing losses from his voyage or from battle as easily. A storm/defeat at sea would have crippled him.

[EternianIrish]

I do admit that his strategy was very very risky though. Risk everything or gain nothing I suppose! Sorry about the double post, I feel like I'm spamming the board!

[HaNsWiDjAjA]

Well, the alternative to that, fighting in Spain, was really a losing proposition. Even if Hannibal managed to destroy several invading Roman armies, he would end up being cornered as the stubborn Romanskeep sending out their men to fight and die! At least by invading Italy he stood a chance of dismantling the Roman coalition, thus winning the war.

[HaNsWiDjAjA]

By the way, Hannibal's "personal" and favorite elephant, named Sarus, was probably a Syrian Elephant, the largest subspecies of Asian elephant, as it was noted for its huge size. The subspecies was also hunted to extinction before the birth of Christ.

[Hendrikdevuile]

Swedish is indeed an Indo-European language like English, Russian, Persian and Hindi, but though distantly related to French and Spanish also, bears little obvious resemblance to these except for the Latin words it has borrowed. Dutch was a much closer guess, but that language has no ö, ä or å in it, unlike this one (whilst German has the first two diacritic signs but no å).

[Dewgan1972]

What language is the subtitles in? Dutch? Swedish?

[SonOfPriam]

Not too sure, but it is pretty similar to French and Spanish, so it must be a language from that area. I think. Lol

[beregorn90]

The subtitles are in swedish.

[nono3711]

@beregorn90 yea and thats good cause im from sweden

[tecna64]

it is nothing like french or spanish

[SonOfPriam]

It has some similar words to them. It's not my fault that I don't speak French nor Spanish fluently. Someone asked what language the subs were in, and I took a guess to try and help.

Besides, the person who posted this video already said it was in Swedish.

[tecna64]

@SonOfPriam

its nothing like it... nothing like it at all

[SonOfPriam]

@tecna64 .Well, I see that now that I've actually looked at the subttitles and know a bit more French. I guessed solely on the fact that some of the words in the subtitles looked like French words, such as Ellar looked similar to Elle, so I guessed. Besides that, why are you replying to a year-old comment? Actually, don't reply. I'd rather not drag this on. My mistake for guessing, your mistake for replying to such an old comment.

[KINGKENNYTHEHOLY]

@SonOfPriam actually their swedish,so your way off the mark pal..

[SonOfPriam]

@KINGKENNYTHEHOLY Seeing as how I've already posted twice saying I realize that now, and that I also don't really care seeing nas how it's been over a year. Actually, I posted once back then saying I admit I was wrong, and once again recently because people can't read.

[KINGKENNYTHEHOLY]

@SonOfPriam Sorry for the inconvinience:P sometimes I just cant resist being a wiseass;)

[dpsantos1994]

@SonOfPriam Are you serious? ..........

[tecna64]

its nothing like dutch cause i used to live in belgium and its nothing like it, it seems to me like a scandinavian language like swedish or norwegian

[bubbleybubble123]

Wait..who r u? Are you anna from Einstein?? Okay, whoever you are, you'll have to do an essay on this soon!!

[ANNAxKAROLINA]

yea it's anna from einstein. already did the essay!

[bubbleybubble123]

Same. We have to take notes. 7D (this is claudia.chan)

[ANNAxKAROLINA]

hi claudia we have to do a essay on this!

[7DaViNcIhIsToRiAnS]

This is for my history class well actualy its homework (this is jonathan.lew)

[Ch0c0l4t3MaN]

History goes way back

[whowantsabighug]

yea further than 6000 bc

[tecna64]

it starts at the damn of men, half a million years ago

[Ch0c0l4t3MaN]

cooooool

[Ch0c0l4t3MaN]

I have to reaserch about this in my history cass at Island School 7D

[ANNAxKAROLINA]

SAME! but i'm not in 7D