These guys were not soldiers, they were a rebel insurgency. The Geneva code does not apply to them. Saving American lives is the priority, and always will be.
Water boarding should not be used, torturing people is a way to make them say anything to stop it. And if they can't give good information then the torture will make the people crazy.
go watch christopher Hitchens water boarding and see the effects.
Waterboarding is nothing compared to what the people killed on 9/11 and their families suffered. If we can get them to spill their gut to save American lives, go for it..........
Earth to TWA Flight T! Brits burned DC, Madison threw in over illegal establishment, letting GONY get in, Lincoln got shot, US drifted into a secret treaty with Victoria, who invaded Palestine, 1882. 1893 US invasion of Hawaii proved a secret treaty, WHICH STARTED BOTH WWI AND WWII, tardies. La Palma and Atlantic and Pacific trenches will spit tsunamis at you, over waterboarding for Israel, when JEWS ARE FROM ETHIOPIA and then from THE PURPLE GANG or NATUREI KARTA, not both. 360.yahoo/bobgnote
Ahh guys give him a break, it was a shitty analogy.
Torture will provide the information the interrogator is looking for every time. Think about what you would say to end an afternoon of repeated near-drownings.
im pro water boarding, this country is going to die, simple.
liberals will be raped and pillaged, right wingers will cry over their bibles. and i will do anything i have too to protect my family, period, DAM THE MUSLIMS, NAZIS, DEMOCRATS, special intrest groups, its on , i play to win, dont care about you pussys.
riiiiiight... does this guy also think that the rack is like yoga? or that sleep deprivation is like pulling an all-nighter? Seriously, this guy is an idiot.
Waterboarding THE ENEMY!! is Great!!!! Hmmmm... lets see now... What would you rather have done to you. Be waterboarded or Beheaded!! Lets just behead them like they do us!! Liberal idiots in the media!!!!
quit arugeing and look at both sides of the issue. Prowaterboard: these terroists killed american citizens whos only crime was to go to work on sep. 11 2001 and since have killed american soldiers in a war they provoked but Torture is an inhumane way of garnering confessions since most will tell u to ur face that they are terriosts
P.S. this is a real video but was used in U.S. navy SERE and Marine Corp training programs to so soldiers what torture is like
The unintended consequence of a government that allows torture is that now all confessions will be suspect. Defendents will be claiming the confession was coerced...and juries will be biased to believe this.
Of course this is torture. The litmus test is, if I were brought into my local police station for questioning(maybe because my neighbor doesn't like me) should the police be allowed to use waterboarding when questioning me. Answer: NO!
※ SO PURELY ACADEMIC A MATTER AS TO BE OURIGHT ABSURD TO BOTHER WITH -- "We SUSPECT he is a terrorist because we caught him in a terrorist training camp closed to outsiders, armed, in the company of and wearing what other armed terrorists were wearing, but we CANNOT BE SURE UNLESS HE CONFESSES."
QUESTION II-C: While a confession > of no more substance than > a simple "I admitit!" is indeed at times deemed sufficient for a conviction | (1) in a local civilian court | (2) in a petty case | (3) even in the absence of corroborating material evidence do you seriously believe that it has the same potency as evidence > [1] in a federal court > [2] in a terrorism case > [3] in the absence of corroborating material evidence? Thank you.
If you have not you probably only know about what you have read and chances are you read articles by people who are against it.
Of course if you were being ass raped by people who felt that because you do not pray to Mohammud, you would feel that simulated drowning was mild compared to having your ass enlarged.
I'd rather be waterboarded, then have my head cut off!! Why in the hell, do we always have to be the good guy! We have to many spineless bastards in our elected leaders, and alot of our fellow citizens, are just to damm political. If it makes Bush look bad, then hell yeah I support that. I'm for my country first, don't care about republican or democrat. I'm for Rudy! But country is 1st!!
"It seems the repub motto is "take my liberty, i'm afraid to die"."
Indeed it is. The neo-cons have taken the position of the commie sympathizers who used to say things like "better red than dead" or "I'd rather live on my knees than die on my feet".
Personally I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
Lying adulterer draft dodger, opportunist, don't forget he also got impeached, your talking bout Clinton right!! Your just a stupid libral, who wants to talk to Al Queda, I'm sure that will work out real well for you!!
Imagine the shitstorm that would grip America if every last one of those Koran chanters that owned a gas station were to choose one day to all blow their gas stations up! It could almost be reason enough to start full fledged martial law in America!
You really wanna torture anyone into talking you just play all the screeching tirades lately on YOUTUBE by Hillary Rodham, Sally Field , and women like that and they will be confessing all their life sins in 11 seconds!!!!
Being drowned = swimming. Wheeeee! It'll be the next big fad in kids' toys.
"Don't have a swimming pool? Get a Waterboarding set. Make your friends think they are dying. It's the same as doing the backstroke! *Water not included*"
I swear to GOD I haven't seen a normal Repub in ages. These morons are NUTS! They have GAY sex scandals child sex scandals, lies, corporate give aways. They have SOLD AMERICA and SCREWED AMERICANS! War for oul and it doesn't matter who the hell dies. Sipport the troops my ass!
He compared "free style back stroke" in swimming to the torture tactic of water boarding. Wow. Nazi's right out in the open. Revolution....I am wait'en on you.
The hell it doesn't. If you can't breathe and you think you're going to die that's torture. Do you think that it's FUN almost drowning? Do you think it's painless? The US government called it torture when the Japanese used it, what's changed?
The rug huggers are not only allowed to torture and maim their captives they have the consent of their bosses and their god 100% with NO committee oversights and no debates. Why aren't the human rights groups going after THEM?????
Actually none of it works. The best way to get information out of any human being at all is through the tried and true method of bribery.
NO matter how pious they may claim to be if we diverted funds that go to encouraging shall we say "urban people" from having bastard babies to stay on the welfare dole, and use them to bribe the POWS, we would get wayyy more information.
Nah!!!! You'll say ANYTHING to survive but you will think long and hard about supplying useful information if you think you can live a life of luxury vs defending your stupid religion for your mates that live and smell like camels. Human Nature.
Ask anyone, anywhere in the world, if the US uses torture and they will answer 'yes, and they'd be right. You dress it up and phrase it any way you like but it all boils down to torture. Did someone say Abu Gharib? Deal with it, deal with your administration and quit just standing by watching them wash the blood off their hands.
Who are you pantiewaists out here who would risk the lives of our troops or our innocent civilians just to protect a terrorist from having water poured over his head?
If it get valuable intel, waterboard these bastards until they grow gills.
I bet if a terrorist was about to blow up the lesbian gay bisexual transexual parade in San Fransico, you libs would want the real men to come and waterboard the suspect. Funny our troops dont get your sympathies.
Its not that simple. For a good idea of what i'm talking about, Youtube search "air force on torture" and click the first video. Great testimony from a former Air Force interrogator on the merits of torture.
Your disregard for law is pathetic. It's our governments participation in that type of thing that has so energized these radical movements and insurgencies.
Go you one better! If Islam could somehow take over this country it would be open season on gays, liberals, trannys you name it. The first Gay Pride march would be met with everything from stones to AK-47 fire.
So you are telling me that Islam WOULD allow a Gay Pride parade in their country? You are telling me this and its NOT an assumption? In fact you can quote me the days and times that such Gay Pride marches occurred in Islamic countries? Please fill me in.
"Fuck a Muslim run country let me live in Amsterdam where the sex and the drugs are done openly and freely and no one cares!".
Good idea.
BTW if the terrorist attack as because they supposedly hate "our way of life" then why didn't they attack Amsterdam or Sweden red light district or French la rue or even San Fransisco.
Schoolyard/prison yard psychology. You always state your dominance by attacking the biggest guy there. Those people have plans for the entire planet according to many of their most respected cleric. If they are so peaceful why are so many Mosques used as places for refuge , comfort and even exchanging messages for the "bad few"?
I hate any haters. I wanna live free and in Peace but if you are somehow trying to steer this towards "9-11" was an inside job bullshit, I am sorry but I do not drink enough Robotussin to make me feel that way , try that on someone else. Islam has made a declaration to have the Sun never set on Islamic soil in the next 100 years. Go read and see if this is not true.
Your so blinded by your hatred for Bush, that you let your mouth overload your ass!! Who in the hell preaches Racism or hatred!! It's always you F'n Democrats go into black churches, and have campaign rallies there! You never see Republican doing that. Some thing are sacred! Mosques have been proven to teach, hatred for america, the infedel, and have been covers for terriorist activites! You sound alot like Bin Laden talking points, you should think about that.
"I do question the sincerity and non-violent intentions of some civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Mr. James Farmer, and others, who are known to have left wing associations."
"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals, it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
If "our" troops think it's OK to torture people to save their cowardly hides then no, they don't get my sympathies. If you can't do your job within the realm of decency, QUIT! I am not a "pantiewaist" sir, because I'm ready to take the chance I might die if someone is not tortured. You are not, coward.
I've never liked Kit Bond. I'm ashamed he's from Missouri. Hell, I can't believe there's a Life Sciences Center named after him at my university! What did he do to deserve a building at university? Is he a great scientist? Did he do wonderful things for Mizzou? People really oughta rethink the way they name buildings. You can't just name a building after someone because they were a prime benefactor or gave a bunch of grant money. That's dumb!
Waterboarding is torture and everybody knows it. Every real American knows there is never excuse for torture or "enhanced interrogation" or whatever code words are used for it. Ninety five per cent of our representatives in the house and senate are are absolute traitors. It's as simple as that. They no longer hold any value for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the rule of law. Their answer in defending our freedom is undermining it. Unbelievable.
Like swimming my ASS, it is torture! Calling it water boarding doesn't make it a day at the friggen beach, you inhuman prick! I hope you rot in one of your fictional religious hells!
Is there any Republican out there other than Hagel who will come out and admit that the US has tortured prisoners? "Detainees," indeed. These people are prisoners. If any US citizen in a US prison were treated this way the entire nation would be up in arms over the inhumane treatment. But these "detainees" in a "foreign" encampment get tortured as if we were Nazi Germany in 1943!
Get your country back you guys! Old fuckers like this and crooks like Rudy, Mitt, Hillary and the rest of them don't care about your Constitution, the Geneva Convention, none of it. Vote Ron Paul (I only wish I could).
As the Senator of a state that elected a deceased Governor to the U.S. Senate. I'm not surprised he can't differentiate between torture and swimming.But I'd volunteer to take him to the Mississippi River for some lessons.
This is simple, really. The US waterboarded KSM and Zebuydah. The US's policy is "we never torture." That's why tapes were destroyed and nobody can answer this question truthfully. cya.
Talk about a wishy washy answer. How hard is it to say the obvious, that waterboarding is indeed torture, but these politicians (WRONGLY) feel it to be necessary? Who do they think they are kidding? If this was being done to our own troops by the "enemy," I have no doubt they would be calling it for the war crime that is and has always been since it's deviant invention.
What an idiot! So is the Geneva convention wrong when it states that water boarding is one of the 89 forms of torture and defined water boarding? This whole drama can so simply be solved by the congress just making it law in defining torture as per what the Geneva convention. They have just allowed the Neo-cons room and outlets to spray their nonsense like what Kit Bond has just done.
Why doesn't anyone ask if waterboarding should be allowed to be performed on our captured troops? I mean since we love our troops so much, haven't we opened up a new can of worms? Or are we the only entitled torture legally?
what did he just try to explain? i dont get it *LOL* anyways, those politicians who say that waterboarding IS NOT tortue should get it and afterwards let the journalist ask them again.
Believing you are going to die isn't torture it just scares the hell out of you and will make you say anything they want you to if they decide you are not a suck up and loyal to prevailing hierarchy and associated propaganda.
Um...telling you everyday while under my capture that Im going to kill you is torture. Yes torture can be scary....do you know of any torture method thats fun and exciting??? I dont think so. It sounds like you would be a blast to torture! You would be tickled pink to have me drown you.
The 'imminent major attack on the US' argument is such a crock of shit! IF you know there is an attack imminent, how did you find that out? If you got that info from the person you're currently interrogating, did you torture it out of him? If not, why torture him now? Seems you got good info by NOT tortuting. IF you got it from somewhere else, why wouldn't you go to the source for more info? Don't make sense to me.
What a dolt! How do people vote for these guys? There are different levels of waterboarding that doesn't fall under the category of torture? Is he suggesting that the US just splashes people in the face? Give me a break.
think of it, as a republican he ran on "family values", "with god on his side only", and every preacher told their flock he was god's choice and the democrat was evil, would bring on floods, murders and another 9/11.
given that fact, if you were a semi-educated state, believing everytime a cloud formed an image it was a sign from god, then you'd vote for idiots like this too!
You're right. Add on gerrymandering, the disenfranchised voter, media apathy, an uninspired opposition and the lack of alternate choice(s) and you get guys like him.
Not sure I got what he was saying. Waterbording is a form of swimming like the backstroke? He doesn't support waterboarding in any circumstance although it might be used if the country were facing an imminent attack? White man speak with forked tongue, me thinks.
its pure and utter torture and it feels as if one is drowning
sarabower1 1 year ago
you think he is bad on cnn just try living in his state.
neilaimaro 2 years ago
These guys were not soldiers, they were a rebel insurgency. The Geneva code does not apply to them. Saving American lives is the priority, and always will be.
joeasmythe 2 years ago
@joeasmythe and killing the american ideal along the way, wonder who won
moestietabarnak 1 year ago
waterboarding is torture, has always been torture... and it`s a war-crime!! bush needs to be prosecuted!!!
log140 2 years ago
look what the enemy has done to american's i would much rather be water boarded then what they do to us.
spc 4 us army
joecad4 2 years ago
Water boarding should not be used, torturing people is a way to make them say anything to stop it. And if they can't give good information then the torture will make the people crazy.
go watch christopher Hitchens water boarding and see the effects.
"Its like swimming?" are you fucking kidding me?
colloredbrothers 2 years ago
Waterboarding is nothing compared to what the people killed on 9/11 and their families suffered. If we can get them to spill their gut to save American lives, go for it..........
joeasmythe 2 years ago
im sure you never supported it when American soldiers were tortured by Japanese andVietnamese
flipperboy 2 years ago
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Earth to TWA Flight T! Brits burned DC, Madison threw in over illegal establishment, letting GONY get in, Lincoln got shot, US drifted into a secret treaty with Victoria, who invaded Palestine, 1882. 1893 US invasion of Hawaii proved a secret treaty, WHICH STARTED BOTH WWI AND WWII, tardies. La Palma and Atlantic and Pacific trenches will spit tsunamis at you, over waterboarding for Israel, when JEWS ARE FROM ETHIOPIA and then from THE PURPLE GANG or NATUREI KARTA, not both. 360.yahoo/bobgnote
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"Chicken's Coming Home To Roost". We are a nation of LAWS. You break them - "YOU GO TO JAIL".
IlluminousUthra 2 years ago
Obviously he never heard the adage that it is better that one keep silent and be thought a fool than open one's mouth and leave no doubt.
cbhagman 2 years ago
Waterboarding is like swimming.?-Aah cool, so I guess its not that bad then.
Minkki82 2 years ago
he should be forced to give a rim job to a mensturatung hippo.
youraputztoo 3 years ago
WTF???is he fucking serious????
MadeinUniverse 3 years ago
you fucking old idiot
KarlMarxObama 3 years ago
Ahh guys give him a break, it was a shitty analogy.
Torture will provide the information the interrogator is looking for every time. Think about what you would say to end an afternoon of repeated near-drownings.
Shawntbell 3 years ago
Waterboarding is to swimming what Kit Bond is for the U.S. Senate
genYprogressive 3 years ago
im pro water boarding, this country is going to die, simple.
liberals will be raped and pillaged, right wingers will cry over their bibles. and i will do anything i have too to protect my family, period, DAM THE MUSLIMS, NAZIS, DEMOCRATS, special intrest groups, its on , i play to win, dont care about you pussys.
sirfranko 4 years ago
riiiiiight... does this guy also think that the rack is like yoga? or that sleep deprivation is like pulling an all-nighter? Seriously, this guy is an idiot.
sirpwnage231 4 years ago
"It's like swimming??" Are you fucking kidding me? Holy shit. Please elect Ron Paul and also go against every incumbent. This is fucking ridiculous!
riderpridester 4 years ago 3
What a dumbass!
Busta311 4 years ago
Waterboarding THE ENEMY!! is Great!!!! Hmmmm... lets see now... What would you rather have done to you. Be waterboarded or Beheaded!! Lets just behead them like they do us!! Liberal idiots in the media!!!!
n2motocross 4 years ago
quit arugeing and look at both sides of the issue. Prowaterboard: these terroists killed american citizens whos only crime was to go to work on sep. 11 2001 and since have killed american soldiers in a war they provoked but Torture is an inhumane way of garnering confessions since most will tell u to ur face that they are terriosts
P.S. this is a real video but was used in U.S. navy SERE and Marine Corp training programs to so soldiers what torture is like
whitesabbath777 4 years ago
True Nazi's waterboard dude! Hang ten buddy!
ron6244 4 years ago
The unintended consequence of a government that allows torture is that now all confessions will be suspect. Defendents will be claiming the confession was coerced...and juries will be biased to believe this.
Of course this is torture. The litmus test is, if I were brought into my local police station for questioning(maybe because my neighbor doesn't like me) should the police be allowed to use waterboarding when questioning me. Answer: NO!
publius87 4 years ago 2
I do not delude myself into believing that waterboarding is
1 "meant to be pleasant"
nor that it is
2 "as innocuous as a pesky fly in the prisoner's cell".
Nonetheless, would you be able to answer the following straightforwardly please.
. . .
ermineermine 3 years ago
QUESTION I: Do you yourself see CONCRETE SIGNS to seriously as well as reasonably believe that what is practiced
| (1) by non-domestic government agents
| (2) outside US borders
| (3) against non-US citizens (with the exception of
| those who take action against America
| as a member of a foreign entity)
is going to end up being practiced by domestic government agents within US borders?
Please factor (1)~(3) above in your answer.
. . .
ermineermine 3 years ago
QUESTION II-A: Do you seriously believe that torture is employed by '(1)' above, in '(2)' above and against '(3)' above to obtain nothing more than
> "Enough! I have had enough! Stop! I give in!
> I admit that I was a terrorist!"
as opposed to information both beyond suspicion and with practical use ("Whom were you with, where, handling what, doing what and planning what?")?
. . .
ermineermine 3 years ago
※ SO PURELY ACADEMIC A MATTER AS TO BE OURIGHT ABSURD TO BOTHER WITH -- "We SUSPECT he is a terrorist because we caught him in a terrorist training camp closed to outsiders, armed, in the company of and wearing what other armed terrorists were wearing, but we CANNOT BE SURE UNLESS HE CONFESSES."
. . .
ermineermine 3 years ago
QUESTION II-B: Do you seriously believe that 'extracted information'
> no more significant than
> "I admit I was a terrorist!"
by itself has any PRACTICAL USE at all?
If yes, then what?
. . .
ermineermine 3 years ago
ermineermine 3 years ago
Your understanding of law and ethics is very skewed.
publius87 3 years ago
PUBLIUS87:
> Your understanding of law and ethics is very skewed.
That is quite an indictment coming from someone who is not even competent in his/her own first language.
ermineermine 3 years ago
wow?!
publius87 3 years ago
your definetly an idiot
publius87 3 years ago
PUBLIUS87:
> your definetly an idiot
Spot the irony--1 and 2.
ermineermine 3 years ago
Your and idiot.
publius87 3 years ago
PUBLIUS87:
> Your and idiot.
Spot the irony again--3 and 4.
ermineermine 3 years ago
waterboarding works so use it.
end of story.
waterboardingfan 4 years ago
"waterboarding works so use it."
Works for what?
To make people admit to something they didn't do? Yes.
Or to gain new information that can save lives? The jury still out on this one.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Have you ever interrogated a person before?
If you have not you probably only know about what you have read and chances are you read articles by people who are against it.
Of course if you were being ass raped by people who felt that because you do not pray to Mohammud, you would feel that simulated drowning was mild compared to having your ass enlarged.
retsisruoydekcufi 4 years ago
Ret since i'm a good person i'm gonna let your ignorant insult slide.
However i don't tolerate your ignorance FYI i survived Suharto regime in Indonesia so i'm quite confident i know what i'm talking about.
How about you?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I wished he would have described how to perform backstroke style waterboarding.
forgetsalot 4 years ago 4
I'd rather be waterboarded, then have my head cut off!! Why in the hell, do we always have to be the good guy! We have to many spineless bastards in our elected leaders, and alot of our fellow citizens, are just to damm political. If it makes Bush look bad, then hell yeah I support that. I'm for my country first, don't care about republican or democrat. I'm for Rudy! But country is 1st!!
ed2kou1 4 years ago
"I'd rather be waterboarded, then have my head cut off!!".
Gee whatever happened to "give me liberty or give me death"?
It seems the repub motto is "take my liberty, i'm afraid to die".
"I'm for Rudy! But country is 1st".
If country is 1st then why are you for a lying adulterer, draft dodger, opportunist like Rudy?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
"It seems the repub motto is "take my liberty, i'm afraid to die"."
Indeed it is. The neo-cons have taken the position of the commie sympathizers who used to say things like "better red than dead" or "I'd rather live on my knees than die on my feet".
Personally I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
thomasw78 4 years ago
Lying adulterer draft dodger, opportunist, don't forget he also got impeached, your talking bout Clinton right!! Your just a stupid libral, who wants to talk to Al Queda, I'm sure that will work out real well for you!!
ed2kou1 4 years ago
"Lying adulterer draft dodger, opportunist, don't forget he also got impeached, your talking bout Clinton right!".
Scary how similar to Clinton Rudy is isn't it?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
W T F!?!?!?!?!?
Get this sucker out of Washington NOW!!
SushiSyogun 4 years ago
Waterboard the SHIT out of 'em if that it what it takes to stop this war!
laleeloolelol 4 years ago
Wow i have a someone spoofing me!
I feel sooo special / snark.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Imagine the shitstorm that would grip America if every last one of those Koran chanters that owned a gas station were to choose one day to all blow their gas stations up! It could almost be reason enough to start full fledged martial law in America!
kevinkeay0382 4 years ago
I got my swimming merit badge in boy scouts, and it didn't look anything like the videos I've seen of people getting waterboarded.
twopotatoesonecarrot 4 years ago
Kit Bond....What a fucking unamerican idiot...
asagady 4 years ago
You really wanna torture anyone into talking you just play all the screeching tirades lately on YOUTUBE by Hillary Rodham, Sally Field , and women like that and they will be confessing all their life sins in 11 seconds!!!!
retsisruoydekcufi 4 years ago
definately one of the most creative answers to the question,'is waterboarding torture?'
Sen. Kit Bond responds-"its alot like swimming!" hahaha, he probably thinks that carpet bombing is alot like dodgeball
F4O4U4R4S 4 years ago
If you care about your country, watch "America: Freedom to Fascism" on google video. Your freedom might depend on it.
kevlarthehorrible4 4 years ago
Yes. That was a very informative documentary.
SoBanned 4 years ago
omg.
andrewdykers 4 years ago
Being drowned = swimming. Wheeeee! It'll be the next big fad in kids' toys.
"Don't have a swimming pool? Get a Waterboarding set. Make your friends think they are dying. It's the same as doing the backstroke! *Water not included*"
SoBanned 4 years ago
what a douche bag.... i wonder who is paying him off?
lukevw22 4 years ago
Waterboarding IS TORTURE. its not like swimming moron
ITS EMBARRASSING
it depends on how its used? SOME SAY if there's imminent threat it might be used?
who are these SOME that are saying this? typical bs. cant even take a stand and say its fuckin torture and its fuckin unconstitutional
FUN FACT: out of the 775 detainees at Guantanamo, 1 HAS BEEN CONVICTED (it was a plea bargain)
yayarea41507 4 years ago
I swear to GOD I haven't seen a normal Repub in ages. These morons are NUTS! They have GAY sex scandals child sex scandals, lies, corporate give aways. They have SOLD AMERICA and SCREWED AMERICANS! War for oul and it doesn't matter who the hell dies. Sipport the troops my ass!
UTBESUX 4 years ago
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If you care about your country, watch "America: Freedom to Fascism" on google video. Your freedom may depend on it.
kevlarthehorrible4 4 years ago
Shame on Missouri for electing this ignorant tool.
blair227 4 years ago 3
It sounds fun, is it like surf boarding?
YeahDude85 4 years ago 2
LOL, it's like swimming...
kac56 4 years ago
He compared "free style back stroke" in swimming to the torture tactic of water boarding. Wow. Nazi's right out in the open. Revolution....I am wait'en on you.
putittogether 4 years ago 3
Kit Bond looks like he hasn't had a bowel movement in months. What an evil son-of-a-bitch.
A typical Republican. No brains and no soul.
Christopher0312 4 years ago 3
it must be liberating to be that stupid
cincimedes 4 years ago 3
Old white guys....zzzzzzzzzz.
nbwulf 4 years ago
Sorry, I've seen the videos of waterboarding, and it doesn't look like swimming to me...
RockinRowdyRufus 4 years ago 2
It also doesn't look like torture.
whitakerj 4 years ago
The hell it doesn't. If you can't breathe and you think you're going to die that's torture. Do you think that it's FUN almost drowning? Do you think it's painless? The US government called it torture when the Japanese used it, what's changed?
newperve 4 years ago
First of all, we do it to all of our special forces whengoing through our training, it is scary but at the end of the day they aren't going to die.
Second, if you could have prevented 9/11 by "torturing" a couple of bastards, would you?
whitakerj 4 years ago
The rug huggers are not only allowed to torture and maim their captives they have the consent of their bosses and their god 100% with NO committee oversights and no debates. Why aren't the human rights groups going after THEM?????
pwnage0013 4 years ago 2
Cattle Prods do much better than water boarding!
DXVBHHTR 4 years ago
Spoken from experience huh?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Actually none of it works. The best way to get information out of any human being at all is through the tried and true method of bribery.
NO matter how pious they may claim to be if we diverted funds that go to encouraging shall we say "urban people" from having bastard babies to stay on the welfare dole, and use them to bribe the POWS, we would get wayyy more information.
Money talks.
DXVBHHTR 4 years ago
Waterboarding IS bribery.We bribe the detainee with his very LIFE. Or so he thinks.
TAMARLANE 4 years ago
Nah!!!! You'll say ANYTHING to survive but you will think long and hard about supplying useful information if you think you can live a life of luxury vs defending your stupid religion for your mates that live and smell like camels. Human Nature.
DXVBHHTR 4 years ago
That's right DX so why can't you be as clear thinking as that in other matter pertaining to tis "war on terror" hmm?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
i don't care how crude or unsophisticated this sounds...
bullshit.... pure fucking bullshit
brassmonkey2788 4 years ago
What do they call pulling out fingernails with pliers? Extreme manicure.
It's not torture. The life of the prisoner is never in danger, and the fingernails grow back.
MMS747 4 years ago 4
Ask anyone, anywhere in the world, if the US uses torture and they will answer 'yes, and they'd be right. You dress it up and phrase it any way you like but it all boils down to torture. Did someone say Abu Gharib? Deal with it, deal with your administration and quit just standing by watching them wash the blood off their hands.
AllTheDressings 4 years ago
Who are you pantiewaists out here who would risk the lives of our troops or our innocent civilians just to protect a terrorist from having water poured over his head?
If it get valuable intel, waterboard these bastards until they grow gills.
I bet if a terrorist was about to blow up the lesbian gay bisexual transexual parade in San Fransico, you libs would want the real men to come and waterboard the suspect. Funny our troops dont get your sympathies.
Pathetic.
seanman10 4 years ago
Its not that simple. For a good idea of what i'm talking about, Youtube search "air force on torture" and click the first video. Great testimony from a former Air Force interrogator on the merits of torture.
mynameisfunk 4 years ago
Your disregard for law is pathetic. It's our governments participation in that type of thing that has so energized these radical movements and insurgencies.
bighitter42 4 years ago 2
yep!!!!
pwnage0013 4 years ago
Go you one better! If Islam could somehow take over this country it would be open season on gays, liberals, trannys you name it. The first Gay Pride march would be met with everything from stones to AK-47 fire.
DXVBHHTR 4 years ago
Oh my DXVBHHTR if islam wants to take ANY country they would have.
Do you know how many muslim in the world? 1 BILLION (at least).
So if you're only half right then the world is at the mercy of 500 million soldiers.
So what are they waiting for?
Unless of course your paranoia is ALL WRONG.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Name the last GAY PRIDE parade you have seen on the news in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, or any other THEOCRATIC Islamic country.
Isn't it nice to THINK before calling someones statement paranoid?
DXVBHHTR 4 years ago
"Name the last GAY PRIDE parade you have seen on the news in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, or any other THEOCRATIC Islamic country".
DX name the last or ANY gay pride parade in ANYWHERE in the world that has been struck by Islamist terrorist.
Isn't it nice to THINK before falling to your own paranoid assumption?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
So you are telling me that Islam WOULD allow a Gay Pride parade in their country? You are telling me this and its NOT an assumption? In fact you can quote me the days and times that such Gay Pride marches occurred in Islamic countries? Please fill me in.
DXVBHHTR 4 years ago
Fuck a Muslim run country let me live in Amsterdam where the sex and the drugs are done openly and freely and no one cares!!!
Woohoo!!!!
retsisruoydekcufi 4 years ago
"Fuck a Muslim run country let me live in Amsterdam where the sex and the drugs are done openly and freely and no one cares!".
Good idea.
BTW if the terrorist attack as because they supposedly hate "our way of life" then why didn't they attack Amsterdam or Sweden red light district or French la rue or even San Fransisco.
Something for you to ponder.
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Schoolyard/prison yard psychology. You always state your dominance by attacking the biggest guy there. Those people have plans for the entire planet according to many of their most respected cleric. If they are so peaceful why are so many Mosques used as places for refuge , comfort and even exchanging messages for the "bad few"?
DXVBHHTR 4 years ago
"If they are so peaceful why are so many Mosques used as places for refuge , comfort and even exchanging messages for the "bad few"?".
Because it's a safe place?
If you don't like it then do you also dislike churches that are used to preach racism or hatred or worse such as GOP campaign?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
I hate any haters. I wanna live free and in Peace but if you are somehow trying to steer this towards "9-11" was an inside job bullshit, I am sorry but I do not drink enough Robotussin to make me feel that way , try that on someone else. Islam has made a declaration to have the Sun never set on Islamic soil in the next 100 years. Go read and see if this is not true.
DXVBHHTR 4 years ago
"Islam has made a declaration to have the Sun never set on Islamic soil in the next 100 years".
Where do you hear or read this?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
Your so blinded by your hatred for Bush, that you let your mouth overload your ass!! Who in the hell preaches Racism or hatred!! It's always you F'n Democrats go into black churches, and have campaign rallies there! You never see Republican doing that. Some thing are sacred! Mosques have been proven to teach, hatred for america, the infedel, and have been covers for terriorist activites! You sound alot like Bin Laden talking points, you should think about that.
ed2kou1 4 years ago
"Who in the hell preaches Racism or hatred!!".
Ahem
Jerry Falwell:
"I do question the sincerity and non-violent intentions of some civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Mr. James Farmer, and others, who are known to have left wing associations."
"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals, it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
actually it was genetically engineered buddy
414skater 4 years ago
God burned a whole city for becoming that!
waterboardingfan 4 years ago
I agree with you!
laleeloolelol 4 years ago
DX my point is there is no danger of Islam taking over America and forbid gay pride parades.
In fact there is no danger of Islam taking over any free country and prevent any gay pride parades there.
You shown clear thinking in the matter of torture why can't you be as clear thinking in this matter hmm?
laleeloolelo 4 years ago
If "our" troops think it's OK to torture people to save their cowardly hides then no, they don't get my sympathies. If you can't do your job within the realm of decency, QUIT! I am not a "pantiewaist" sir, because I'm ready to take the chance I might die if someone is not tortured. You are not, coward.
newperve 4 years ago 2
welcome to the banana republic of america!!!
MojoJuana 4 years ago
This moron failed to notice the BIG distinction between "swimming" techniques and "waterboarding" techniques.
-The former could save you life and the latter could END your life!
You see Kit; they are really not the same AT ALL!
z8it 4 years ago
"Like swimming" lol. I didn't know swimming was a synonym for drowning. When did Webster change it?
Whoo69 4 years ago 2
I've never liked Kit Bond. I'm ashamed he's from Missouri. Hell, I can't believe there's a Life Sciences Center named after him at my university! What did he do to deserve a building at university? Is he a great scientist? Did he do wonderful things for Mizzou? People really oughta rethink the way they name buildings. You can't just name a building after someone because they were a prime benefactor or gave a bunch of grant money. That's dumb!
Whoo69 4 years ago
If it's not torture then I'd like to see it demonstrated on ALL presidential candidates who say it isn't torture.
BostonBeatnik 4 years ago
Waterboarding is torture and everybody knows it. Every real American knows there is never excuse for torture or "enhanced interrogation" or whatever code words are used for it. Ninety five per cent of our representatives in the house and senate are are absolute traitors. It's as simple as that. They no longer hold any value for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the rule of law. Their answer in defending our freedom is undermining it. Unbelievable.
caissa0 4 years ago
why don't you go for a swim ya dickhead.
gooddog171 4 years ago 2
Sen. Kit Bond should be hung in a public square.
davidedwardclark 4 years ago
Like swimming my ASS, it is torture! Calling it water boarding doesn't make it a day at the friggen beach, you inhuman prick! I hope you rot in one of your fictional religious hells!
wiskawind 4 years ago 2
like swimming? wow - what a tool.
mfyyre 4 years ago 2
Translation: "I wouldn't favor it, but it's like swimming, so please don't prosecute us for war crimes."
Opinion: Fucking dipshit asshole motherfucker.
summerseve 4 years ago 3
Is there any Republican out there other than Hagel who will come out and admit that the US has tortured prisoners? "Detainees," indeed. These people are prisoners. If any US citizen in a US prison were treated this way the entire nation would be up in arms over the inhumane treatment. But these "detainees" in a "foreign" encampment get tortured as if we were Nazi Germany in 1943!
I am ashamed to admit being an American.
MartySchrader 4 years ago
Don't be ashamed to be an American We gave Kit Bond the boot last year.
grazon 4 years ago
What the hell did that senile old bastard just say?!
I couldn't follow that equivocating gibberish at all.
Talk about doublespeak!
z8it 4 years ago
Message from Canada:
Get your country back you guys! Old fuckers like this and crooks like Rudy, Mitt, Hillary and the rest of them don't care about your Constitution, the Geneva Convention, none of it. Vote Ron Paul (I only wish I could).
bajacaca 4 years ago 6
I would vote for Ron Paul, if I was an american.
pradeeptubeu 4 years ago
What is so ambiguous about "waterboarding"? Either you're making people feel like they're drowning or you're not.
eneliatarknenah 4 years ago
Have you ever heard a politician give a straight answer?
Robkat3751 4 years ago
sure, forcing someone to feel as if they are drowning over and over again is not toture...
Screw you guys, I want America back
ShiekYerbooty 4 years ago 11
As the Senator of a state that elected a deceased Governor to the U.S. Senate. I'm not surprised he can't differentiate between torture and swimming.But I'd volunteer to take him to the Mississippi River for some lessons.
AuroraKismet 4 years ago
Since he thinks waterboarding is like swimming, I'd REALLY like to see if Kit Bond can swim.
trebby2 4 years ago 5
Agreed, if it were like swimming, than I would have no problem "putting him in the pool". Swim Kit, swim...let's see your backstroke!
Republican facists.
eincali 4 years ago
I cant belive we are still debating the fact if this is torture or not.
Look at the Geneva Convention you idiot politicians.
Waterboarding is considered torture
cityview1989 4 years ago 2
This is how pathetic America has become,
People in power can look you in the face and say waterboarding is not torture and morons belive them.
vancerz 4 years ago 4
There are different ways of raping and killing someone also, but none of them are okay to use.
alnewberry 4 years ago 2
Wow, who the fuck votes these assholes in charge of us?
GBTRU 4 years ago 4
Did you vote last time? Did anyone who watches this stuff then questions it vote?
Robkat3751 4 years ago
yes yes
sarcasmosis 4 years ago
This is simple, really. The US waterboarded KSM and Zebuydah. The US's policy is "we never torture." That's why tapes were destroyed and nobody can answer this question truthfully. cya.
voiyour 4 years ago 3
Talk about a wishy washy answer. How hard is it to say the obvious, that waterboarding is indeed torture, but these politicians (WRONGLY) feel it to be necessary? Who do they think they are kidding? If this was being done to our own troops by the "enemy," I have no doubt they would be calling it for the war crime that is and has always been since it's deviant invention.
dafttool 4 years ago 4
What an idiot! So is the Geneva convention wrong when it states that water boarding is one of the 89 forms of torture and defined water boarding? This whole drama can so simply be solved by the congress just making it law in defining torture as per what the Geneva convention. They have just allowed the Neo-cons room and outlets to spray their nonsense like what Kit Bond has just done.
PreetSG 4 years ago 3
The Geneva Convention is the LAW!
The US Constitution states that all treaties both foreign and domestic are the law of the land.
The US played a key role in drafting the Geneva Convention.
Weaseldog2001 4 years ago 3
buy, that is what you call one of those "I can't tell you because I'm a chicken but yes it is" speaches:)
marcusjansen239369 4 years ago 3
Why doesn't anyone ask if waterboarding should be allowed to be performed on our captured troops? I mean since we love our troops so much, haven't we opened up a new can of worms? Or are we the only entitled torture legally?
todobeso70 4 years ago 3
we should take Senator Bond to swimming.
shortfu 4 years ago 3
the answer is YES kit.
DevBlazed 4 years ago
it is torture
DevBlazed 4 years ago 2
LOL sounds like fun
lashdown 4 years ago
what did he just try to explain? i dont get it *LOL* anyways, those politicians who say that waterboarding IS NOT tortue should get it and afterwards let the journalist ask them again.
leepakim 4 years ago 2
yeah its just like swimming... except your tied to a freaking board!
bodah44 4 years ago 2
and here is the reason why America is doomed.
josephbnany 4 years ago 2
Its like swimming !!?? classic ! freestyle ?? yeah except when one is swimming the object is NOT to drowned.....WTF ?
We are through the looking glass people ! Who is up next the hooka smoking caterpillar?
jsfumato 4 years ago
Believing you are going to die isn't torture it just scares the hell out of you and will make you say anything they want you to if they decide you are not a suck up and loyal to prevailing hierarchy and associated propaganda.
hypnofan35 4 years ago
Um...telling you everyday while under my capture that Im going to kill you is torture. Yes torture can be scary....do you know of any torture method thats fun and exciting??? I dont think so. It sounds like you would be a blast to torture! You would be tickled pink to have me drown you.
gobblegobblechew 4 years ago
i thought i was being facetious. Oh well!
hypnofan35 4 years ago
If I was wrong in my comment, Im sorry, but I cant see the joke in your comment. Its early morning for me and I havent had a full cup of coffee yet.
gobblegobblechew 4 years ago
And I thought you were being FACSIST-eous.
Go figure.
z8it 4 years ago
That would have been a better joke if i'd spelled
"FASCIST-eous" correctly.
Like you said;
Oh well...
z8it 4 years ago
Let's water board Kit...bet he has a different answer...
Besides, sharing the same name as a talking car on an 80's TV show can't be a good sign...
Bolgernow 4 years ago
The 'imminent major attack on the US' argument is such a crock of shit! IF you know there is an attack imminent, how did you find that out? If you got that info from the person you're currently interrogating, did you torture it out of him? If not, why torture him now? Seems you got good info by NOT tortuting. IF you got it from somewhere else, why wouldn't you go to the source for more info? Don't make sense to me.
FattKidd 4 years ago 4
Anyone of you youtubers wanna learn to swim Kit Bond's way?
RemiG2006 4 years ago
What a dolt! How do people vote for these guys? There are different levels of waterboarding that doesn't fall under the category of torture? Is he suggesting that the US just splashes people in the face? Give me a break.
gbgzp 4 years ago
think of it, as a republican he ran on "family values", "with god on his side only", and every preacher told their flock he was god's choice and the democrat was evil, would bring on floods, murders and another 9/11.
given that fact, if you were a semi-educated state, believing everytime a cloud formed an image it was a sign from god, then you'd vote for idiots like this too!
wntoply6 4 years ago 2
You're right. Add on gerrymandering, the disenfranchised voter, media apathy, an uninspired opposition and the lack of alternate choice(s) and you get guys like him.
gbgzp 4 years ago
That was totally incoherent. He must be taking elocution lessons from Bush.
fishhead06 4 years ago
What??? Orwell would be so proud...
copiloto 4 years ago
WTF is he saying, what a chronie.
garvess 4 years ago
More double-talk from a Republican toady.
agitcam 4 years ago
Not sure I got what he was saying. Waterbording is a form of swimming like the backstroke? He doesn't support waterboarding in any circumstance although it might be used if the country were facing an imminent attack? White man speak with forked tongue, me thinks.
nothankyoumam 4 years ago 4