its to hard to explain but the transmission on nutral drain machines has a system that switches the washer from wash mode into nutral (drains) then engages in to spin let me ask what happens if you open and shut the hood when it stops spinning would it cause it to re-engage? I noticed the basket moved when the cycle ended as if it was in neutral all that time
I had the same problem with my Kenmore Series 90. Replace the funny looking plastic piece attached to the brake. You'll have to pull the trans. out to do it.
I'm going to assume you read my nearly 2-year old comments below already. Two repairmen from two companies came out to work on this washer. Neither could fix it . I've replaced timers before, and absolutely yes they do go bad, but this was not a timer issue. You can hear in the video a mechanical "clack" when the transmission engages. It's at this moment that you see the basket shift slightly. The last repairman acknowledged that it's a transmission issue, and it's economically irreparable.
@muchtall Well its economically irreparable, if you are incapable of such a repair yourself, as in, you have to call repair personnel to have the machine fixed.
Using my best knowledge, it sounds like the neutral drain part of the transmission is toast, You will have to remove the agitator bolt, remove the cabinet, pull the pump and motor, then unbolt the transmission, place it in a vice, remove the clutch assembly, remove the gearcase cover bolts, pull the spin gear to take a look.
Nah. I don't know why I've delayed. I suppose a quick CraigsList posting would get it out of my basement. I probably shouldn't expect to get more than $50 for it.
Yep, looks like a trans/clutch issue. The motor on these machines is dual-direction, forward agitate, reverse drain/spin. When it agitates, it presets the transmission so that to drain, the motor stops, runs in reverse to run the drain pump, and that shifts it to neutral drain. To spin, it stops and starts again in reverse to shift it to spin mode. It is slipping back to neutral drain mode when the motor stops to let some water in for rinse. Not worth fixing unless you're a washer enthusiast.
that would have been relatively cheap to fix if you still wanted that washer.
in these washers including whirlpool the coupler,agitator dogs, or transmission are common to what may give out its common and usually cheap to fix granting if you do it yourself even an in home repair wouldn't be that much!
but if you want a new washer heres your reason LOL!
We had an older Kenmore washer very similar to that one, and it did the same thing in it's last days that we had it. It got to where it wouldn't spin at all, it would just sit there instead of spinning.
I believe it was a "70s Series" Kenmore washer. We didn't bother getting it repaired, we just bought a new GE washer with matching dryer. They've both been good so far.
I investigated the research about Kenmore washing machines failing online. I read that a sears repairman told a lady that a Kenmore washing machine's transmission doen't leak. The repairman lied to this lady in 2007. Every washing machine, including a Kenmore washing machine gets grease in clothes because of the seal. My dad came up with a money saving idea: he put plastic around the top where the agitator sits, and stopped the leak. That was a money saving idea.
i did some research on complaints aginast Sears aout their washing machines and Sears doesn't admit responsibility for the washing machines malfunctioning. Did you throw your old washing machine on this video away? Congradulations on buying a new washer.
It's actually sitting idle in my basement waiting for me to put it up on Craig'sList. I figured I could maybe get $20 for it if some repair man wanted to take a crack at it.
The first repairman that came out to take a look at the thing said that he has the same model at home and he loves it because "it's a workhorse", well-built and easy to repair. I don't know what Sear's warranty is on these things, but it was probably about 25 years old. So it would seem that it had a reasonably long life.
UPDATE: Sorry I didn't post this earlier. The repair technician determined that the transmission was failing. We submitted the claim to the home warranty company, and they cut us a check which we used to buy a new Whirlpool Duet Sport, which by the way, works wonderfully.
Thanks to everyone for their input. Hopefully this helps someone else out.
And be sure you find a mechanic who can repair your washer. I think you might end up buying a brand new washer. We purchased a brand new washer almost 3 years ago from Lowe's Hardware.
Very weird. Did you ever get your washer fixed since a year ago? If not, then check the belt on it. It has to be broken in 2. My dad used to replace belts on our washers when the malfunctioned. I took the back off of one when I was 19 because my dad wanted the motor off of it, and he put it and the belt on our other washer and it worked.
Thanks for all the input. I had a couple of service guys come out and take a look at it (I've got a home warranty) and the first guy thought it was the clutch, tightened that up, and said it was all good. However, days later I happened to catch it still pausing.
I called again and had different company come out. This time the guy speculated on a few things (such as the lid switch) but after debating it with himself, determined those things were unlikely to be the cause.
The guy speculated as "rollermatic" did: the gearcase/transmission is going bad. It's probably a 15-year old washer (it's a 15-year old house, recently purchased from the original owners), so I guess that's to be expected. In any case, the home warranty company now has to decide if it's worth spending ~$300 on a replacement transmission and related parts and labor, or if they should just pay for a new washer.
Honestly, I would get them to spend the cash on it because those Kenmore's and older (like with the knob in the middle) are real work horse washers. These new Kenmore's might give you a good 5 years. I had one of that exact model and gave it away to a neighbor, and it is still running to this day.
have you tried when its doing that actually that is drain mode when the video came on it was spinning its not suppose to do that it drains the water without spinning then stops and you would hear i guess a loud band then it starts rinsing and spinning. when it does that try stopping the washer for about ten secs and then turn it back on see if it works
I've seen this problem before,it turned out to be a defective lid saftey switch. I would replace that first especialy if it still agitates before I go any further with it.I hope this corrects the problem for you. Have a nice day.
well with out looking I would say timer, was the washer when filling again draining. that would tell me a lot. if it was still draining it does look like it was put in spin before it was to be in spin. due to the pause of the motor. I would needed to no more of what direction the motor is spinning
It's supposed to pause like it did (it isn't supposed to spin during the initial drain, yours did because you are testing it), but it should keep spinning. I'm not sure why it stops spinning.
lol! it's funny
gocountry1391 1 month ago
Ask Whirlpool about it... ;)
TheToploaderwasher 2 months ago
Maybe you can sell it and have the washer out of your way for good. You have nothing to lose and money to pocket.
DoctorRod422010 1 year ago
I have that same washer, My sounds like a train when its washing
ssilverado12 1 year ago
First of all I can tell by looking at it that this washer is past it's lifespan. When did you buy it, in the 1980's?
BlogShag 1 year ago
Sounds like a possible netrual drain pak replacement.
Compwhiz128 1 year ago
Did you ever sell that washer posted here?
DoctorRod422010 1 year ago
question did it neutral drain?
it sounds like the transmission is out of sync..
its to hard to explain but the transmission on nutral drain machines has a system that switches the washer from wash mode into nutral (drains) then engages in to spin let me ask what happens if you open and shut the hood when it stops spinning would it cause it to re-engage? I noticed the basket moved when the cycle ended as if it was in neutral all that time
orangie84 1 year ago
I had the same problem with my Kenmore Series 90. Replace the funny looking plastic piece attached to the brake. You'll have to pull the trans. out to do it.
tullymars080 1 year ago
The c ycles are off, the timer needs replacing, it's an easy job, the washer is sound!
italobambino43 2 years ago
I'm going to assume you read my nearly 2-year old comments below already. Two repairmen from two companies came out to work on this washer. Neither could fix it . I've replaced timers before, and absolutely yes they do go bad, but this was not a timer issue. You can hear in the video a mechanical "clack" when the transmission engages. It's at this moment that you see the basket shift slightly. The last repairman acknowledged that it's a transmission issue, and it's economically irreparable.
muchtall 2 years ago
@muchtall Well its economically irreparable, if you are incapable of such a repair yourself, as in, you have to call repair personnel to have the machine fixed.
Using my best knowledge, it sounds like the neutral drain part of the transmission is toast, You will have to remove the agitator bolt, remove the cabinet, pull the pump and motor, then unbolt the transmission, place it in a vice, remove the clutch assembly, remove the gearcase cover bolts, pull the spin gear to take a look.
Compwhiz128 1 year ago
was that washer fixed
Ryanguy22 2 years ago
Read my comments above and below
muchtall 2 years ago
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Lehnerd57 2 years ago
Read my comments above and below
muchtall 2 years ago
@muchtall Did you ever try stopping it with the timer knob, pulling it out, and then seeing if it would spin? If not, I would suggest trying it
TheLucasMollet 1 year ago
I fell asleep....now, what happened?
hindsight1820 2 years ago
just buy a new one more efeshent one
vivitar45 2 years ago
efeshent. now i've seen everything.
SilentServiceCode 2 years ago 2
What type of washer is this? If it's a kenmore, you can get it fixed by Sears.
NVHSChadSheppard1 2 years ago
did you ever sell your old washing machine?
Rodney
DOCTORRODNEYWHO42 2 years ago
Nah. I don't know why I've delayed. I suppose a quick CraigsList posting would get it out of my basement. I probably shouldn't expect to get more than $50 for it.
muchtall 2 years ago
Yep, looks like a trans/clutch issue. The motor on these machines is dual-direction, forward agitate, reverse drain/spin. When it agitates, it presets the transmission so that to drain, the motor stops, runs in reverse to run the drain pump, and that shifts it to neutral drain. To spin, it stops and starts again in reverse to shift it to spin mode. It is slipping back to neutral drain mode when the motor stops to let some water in for rinse. Not worth fixing unless you're a washer enthusiast.
eggman9713 2 years ago
that would have been relatively cheap to fix if you still wanted that washer.
in these washers including whirlpool the coupler,agitator dogs, or transmission are common to what may give out its common and usually cheap to fix granting if you do it yourself even an in home repair wouldn't be that much!
but if you want a new washer heres your reason LOL!
somestuff2day 2 years ago
We had an older Kenmore washer very similar to that one, and it did the same thing in it's last days that we had it. It got to where it wouldn't spin at all, it would just sit there instead of spinning.
I believe it was a "70s Series" Kenmore washer. We didn't bother getting it repaired, we just bought a new GE washer with matching dryer. They've both been good so far.
Ecm51 2 years ago
I investigated the research about Kenmore washing machines failing online. I read that a sears repairman told a lady that a Kenmore washing machine's transmission doen't leak. The repairman lied to this lady in 2007. Every washing machine, including a Kenmore washing machine gets grease in clothes because of the seal. My dad came up with a money saving idea: he put plastic around the top where the agitator sits, and stopped the leak. That was a money saving idea.
JUDEGWAPNER 2 years ago
i did some research on complaints aginast Sears aout their washing machines and Sears doesn't admit responsibility for the washing machines malfunctioning. Did you throw your old washing machine on this video away? Congradulations on buying a new washer.
JUDEGWAPNER 2 years ago
It's actually sitting idle in my basement waiting for me to put it up on Craig'sList. I figured I could maybe get $20 for it if some repair man wanted to take a crack at it.
The first repairman that came out to take a look at the thing said that he has the same model at home and he loves it because "it's a workhorse", well-built and easy to repair. I don't know what Sear's warranty is on these things, but it was probably about 25 years old. So it would seem that it had a reasonably long life.
muchtall 2 years ago
UPDATE: Sorry I didn't post this earlier. The repair technician determined that the transmission was failing. We submitted the claim to the home warranty company, and they cut us a check which we used to buy a new Whirlpool Duet Sport, which by the way, works wonderfully.
Thanks to everyone for their input. Hopefully this helps someone else out.
muchtall 2 years ago
And be sure you find a mechanic who can repair your washer. I think you might end up buying a brand new washer. We purchased a brand new washer almost 3 years ago from Lowe's Hardware.
MisterRodney1 2 years ago
Very weird. Did you ever get your washer fixed since a year ago? If not, then check the belt on it. It has to be broken in 2. My dad used to replace belts on our washers when the malfunctioned. I took the back off of one when I was 19 because my dad wanted the motor off of it, and he put it and the belt on our other washer and it worked.
MisterRodney1 2 years ago
i have NEVER seen a washing machine do that before, not EVEN mine.
videomaster110 3 years ago
you should also unplug the machine just to prevent a fire
videomaster110 2 years ago
Thanks for all the input. I had a couple of service guys come out and take a look at it (I've got a home warranty) and the first guy thought it was the clutch, tightened that up, and said it was all good. However, days later I happened to catch it still pausing.
I called again and had different company come out. This time the guy speculated on a few things (such as the lid switch) but after debating it with himself, determined those things were unlikely to be the cause.
muchtall 3 years ago
The guy speculated as "rollermatic" did: the gearcase/transmission is going bad. It's probably a 15-year old washer (it's a 15-year old house, recently purchased from the original owners), so I guess that's to be expected. In any case, the home warranty company now has to decide if it's worth spending ~$300 on a replacement transmission and related parts and labor, or if they should just pay for a new washer.
Here's to hoping.
muchtall 3 years ago
Honestly, I would get them to spend the cash on it because those Kenmore's and older (like with the knob in the middle) are real work horse washers. These new Kenmore's might give you a good 5 years. I had one of that exact model and gave it away to a neighbor, and it is still running to this day.
mistaj5 3 years ago
have you tried when its doing that actually that is drain mode when the video came on it was spinning its not suppose to do that it drains the water without spinning then stops and you would hear i guess a loud band then it starts rinsing and spinning. when it does that try stopping the washer for about ten secs and then turn it back on see if it works
kendricks38606 3 years ago
I've seen this problem before,it turned out to be a defective lid saftey switch. I would replace that first especialy if it still agitates before I go any further with it.I hope this corrects the problem for you. Have a nice day.
JVY9000 3 years ago
well with out looking I would say timer, was the washer when filling again draining. that would tell me a lot. if it was still draining it does look like it was put in spin before it was to be in spin. due to the pause of the motor. I would needed to no more of what direction the motor is spinning
mrbudget 3 years ago
very odd check the clutch
tl54 3 years ago
It's supposed to pause like it did (it isn't supposed to spin during the initial drain, yours did because you are testing it), but it should keep spinning. I'm not sure why it stops spinning.
captain150 4 years ago
Looks like either the clutch or the timer
w8lftr 4 years ago