The luxurious life of Tibetan nobles !

[TibetArchive]

SHAMELESS Chinese Government Propaganda Lies !

SAVE Tibet from China's 60+ YEARS OF Brutal Occupation !

FREEDOM in Tibet !

[Mrmasiona]

@TibetArchive maybe not 60years its 300years

[Mrmasiona]

@TibetArchive and freedom USA from europeans

[jayloganyt]

Wonderful old pictures, of a time sadly gone by. Thank you for sharing.

[itsabitofnuffing]

I am glad I do not live in Tibet. These ppl looks like ahole snobs!

[Texadebooks]

If you don't make a comparison between pictures of the Tibetan nobles and pictures of slaves and serfs, this video is completely useless. Also, what does "Time to say goobye" touch with the spirit of this videoclip?! This song recalls suffering from injustice and nostalgy. If your aim was to criticize the Tibetan system before the communist avvent, I guess you completely failed as you obtained exactly the opposite effect. In my opinion, you are basically a bungler. You just played their game!

[powerofthroughts]

I don't understand why people supporting these ass holes monk that treating their family and people like animals or worst. Tibet at present is at their best in term of everything.

[buciorjakub]

@powerofthroughts everyone is complaining about how evil and cruel tibet used to be well think about it japan was like that too there culture asked for men a wemon to kill themselves before being dishonored , and they still have some of there old ways but with a modern twist, and thats what tibetans are trying to do today will it be perfect no, but what is, and remember the next dalai lama will growing up in a world that is more modernized then it was when the 14th was a child

[powerofthroughts]

@buciorjakub  Dude that is not complaining, these monks were just abusing power. Tibetean monks are nothing but upper class barbarian with a smile. These showing how inferior and backward these peoples are.

[buciorjakub]

@powerofthroughts backwards and inferior on the contrary wile there technology may have been inferior we have much to learn from tibet culture the teachings of tibet buddhism wile old tibet was a dark place withcorrupt lamas it was also a very enlightening place to be for example wile western scientists where exploring the outside world, trying to make it better the lamas and yogis of tibet where developing a science of the mind to make it better that only western science is starting to discover

[buciorjakub]

@powerofthroughts much of what they have discovered was rarely written down and what was written down was mostly destroyed by the Chinese and the only people who remember that knowledge are lamas and yogis who were taught orally if we lose these few individuals then thats alot of forgotten valuable knowledge we in fact need these people and this culture so that there can be more of these enlightened teachers also as corrupt as they might have been things are also very much changing for the lamas

[powerofthroughts]

@buciorjakub Buddhism benefiting people with enlightenment, but Tibetans Buddhism was and is a very corrupt and brainwashing nonsense, Everything they didn't were against humanity. This kind of culture should be destroyed and buried, so the Tibetan can be freed of these kind of non sense.

[buciorjakub]

@powerofthroughts you may think it is the right thing to do but when people where destroying the maya culture or when people were destroying the Library of Alexandria or they thought it was a good idea but history will look back on it as a great tragedy not only because a culture was lost but because all of its history and knowledge is also gone what tibet culture and religion need is change not destruction i also suggest you do more research on tibet buddhist teachings not its lamas

[powerofthroughts]

@buciorjakub As an advancing man, history only a way to learn from mistake, but Tibetans Buddhism was ready corrupted by the creation of Lamas, And who created the lamas, it was the Chinese to gain control of the people in Tibet. we human beings are motivate by three main theme, healthy body, wealth, love =peace of mind. we all wants these. But All these people in tibet and muslim as well only study religion, that is a sickness. They blocking their advance, this is why they playing the victim

[buciorjakub]

@powerofthroughts i agree with you on the history part and im also interested in this chinese created the lama system, were did you hear that? but you can not blame them for studying there religion tibet buddhism is a mixture of vajrayana buddhism and the native bon belief so yes there is going to be some devotion, and you cannot say that they are all sick that is for the individual to decide some may be some not

[powerofthroughts]

@buciorjakub hey dude,mythology is weakness, it is man made things, Tibetan religions are nothing but superstitions , any superstitions are a form of fear. Buddhism said; never fear what you become, depend on no one , then you are free. But many tibetans depend on the Dai lama, in fact they were brain washed into some kind of strange force control them, when we all knowing that there is no strange force control us. The only thing that control us is our mind. The Yuan dynasty created lama

[buciorjakub]

@powerofthroughts mythology can be a weakness but thats still up to the individual buddhism dose not say anything about having to be an atheist, there is no right or wrong way to buddhism unless you forsake most of the dharma and thats not what there doing in tibetan buddhism, just like a catholic may not believe in every saint so not every tibetan believes in every deity, tibetan monks are very well trained in reason do you not think that some are skeptical in there beliefs

[buciorjakub]

@powerofthroughts not every tibetan depends in the dalai lama, not every tibetan believes in superstition not even the dalai lama believes in everything that his religion says also you cannot say that it is completely bull unless you have experienced it for your self like i said its up to the individual, i myself want to experience many different paths of buddhism and other beliefs in order to find the truth and so do many others, forget the lamas just examine the teachings themselves

[powerofthroughts]

@buciorjakub DUDE do you know Dalai lama is a god in Tibetan Buddhism. in fact he is the god of past, present and future. yes Buddhism is about compassion, but looks at the Tibetan history, all the monks owed slaves, its that compassion????, I not against Buddhism here, in fact Buddhism is the only religions that can explain the facts how the human mind words, such as what you think, you become if you think the way you think, you can only become that person. your true is not my true. peace DX..

[buciorjakub]

@powerofthroughts k then =D had fun arguing with you, i just want to say though that it would have been a lot better arguing in real life i dont like youtube debates lol

[powerofthroughts]

@buciorjakub cool, it would be better to debates on you tube, I believe you are a cool dude, if you know me, you wouldn't debate with me. peace

[ruzickaw]

The Chinese are right to forbid that religion that could not give a decent live to the mayority of the Tibetans. Such a "culture" is not worth preserving.

[MrPleasethink]

thank god those rich tibetans never killed and imprisoned tibetans for thinking different.

the CCP (chinese government) has imprisoned LIU XIAOBO for preaching democracy and peace.

not to mention the thousands of FALUN GONG practioners, who were TORTURED for trying to live compassionate, Truthful lives.

The CCP cannot even comprehend living truthfully so they had to torture those who tried to live like that.

Liu xiaobo participated in the tiananmen protests of 1989.

[thomasbachelor]

I am happy that some Tibetans had a nice life. It is a very difficult climate. They must have had very good karma. It is lucky that such people were often enlightened lamas, and that they were very kind to those around them who had very bad karma. Unlike those dogs from the CCP, who only ate and drank and screwed as much as possible, while killing millions of unfortunate Chinese. How many millions of Chinese did Mao kill with his agricultural policies? How much did Mao eat and drink and screw?

[beatlesfab1]

FREEDOM FOR TIBET! TIBET HAS NEVER BEEN, IS NOT, AND NEVER WILL BE PART OF CHINA! THE COMMUNIST CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS ILLEGAL AND NEEDS TO GET OUT OF TIBET NOW!

[refel101]

@beatlesfab1

illegal? how can a govt. be illegal?

[beatlesfab1]

@refel101 It is illegal as it violates the natural laws of the universe and violates the human rights of the people it claims it's serving. By those facts alone, it has no legitimacy.

[refel101]

@beatlesfab1

wow. natural laws of the universe? way to be extreme. and by what youre saying, then omg, SO many countries are illegal.

[beatlesfab1]

@beatlesfab1 I never said other countries were or were not illegal, but that's besides the point. The issue at hand is the People's Republic of China and its illegal occupation of Tibet, which has been the land of the Tibetan people for thousands of years. The People's Republic of China and its ruling party, the Communist Party of China, has never had the legitimacy to rule even one inch of land.

[ladyspartan1119]

China:::Get out of Tibet you pack of murderers...

[S1587915G]

Grossly inappropriate music.

[soundofsilence82]

just like in the others societyes! stupidity everywhere.

[ikhamo]

dont worry, even though it may look humble and simple to you from the outside, they are filthy rich from their exploitations and corruptions.

[ikhamo]

damn Lhasa aristocrats living off of the poor and exploiting them. where was human rights then?

[Ganeschar]

thank you very nice video it shows Tibet was a Free country !

[globetelme]

FREE TIBET. THATS ALL

[charliemctruth]

Meanwhile the serfs and slaves were starving to death. China liberated those people from the oppression of these ,so called Aristocrats.

[myfreetibet]

they were serfs in Tibet, only after China invaded.

Tibetans were the serfs, Chinese were the serf owners.

[Popajaja]

Blood sucking parasite !

[gengar77]

Tibetologist Melvyn C. Goldstein writes that Britain and Russia formally acknowledged Chinese authority over Tibet in treaties of 1906 and 1907; and that the British invasion of Tibet stirred China into getting more directly involved in Tibetan affairs and working to integrate Tibet with the rest of China.

[Philosopher72]

Very nice video, you can tell the differences of history of Tibet and China so clear.

Thank you so much for showing the truth!

The Noble and servant are still taking place in China, and even worse, such as human smuggling, child labor, mascre, and much more.

[HerrNebuchadnezzar]

Well, Tibet was a theocratic, feudalistic state with a serf population.

Isn't that the case for any premodern state ?

I guess it is. So that still doesn't make Tibetan buddhism "evil" or something to untrust.

[Rakkasans2006]

Buddhism is not evil but Buddhism should not be control by one man.

[lordofthenachos]

pssh crappy way to make tibet look bad. All people in the nobility of china and europe during the middle ages and renaissance lived like this. Tibetan servants were probably happy.

Now waiting for people to rate my comment poor and mark me as spam.

BRING IT!

[Rakkasans2006]

this was in the 1940's 60 years ago.

[TheRandomGrabber]

rubbish

[leejordanmichael]

Would I rather be a commie than a slave....hmm......but true, the Qing imperials lived a far more lavish lifestyle than the Tibetan royals, which was why the commies took over.

Poor tibetans. Oppressed by their own kind, then by commies. God bless Tibet!

[Bodgyalo319]

i dont see any serfs..where do you see serfs? i see palace guards and palace workers..all they people seem happy and always turned up for the royal processions.i dont see anyone pointing guns at them..i noticed you pointed out the man with his poor back...so nice to show your concern..but to carry HH Dalai Lama..well even i would volunteer to do that for free..i assure you..there would be thousands willing to help him out by replacing him.. the fact he carried on shows his devotion

[Bodgyalo319]

i like their style a lot better than the chinese dynasties and others..very humble buildings..the gardens are so natural and not forced..so small in comparison to the excess of the brittish for instance...hey..wasnt that palanquin a gift from some chinese emperor??i am sure i read somewhere..

[gbmkhm01]

u must not like the life style of Tibetan serfs, hypocrite.

[Bodgyalo319]

shall we see pictures of china at that time and the wealthy surroundings of Emperor Mao and his many serfs?

[swordofpakistan]

Free Tibet,Boycott China,

[Ganeschar]

Beautiful pictures, nice to see again !!!

[tenzay07]

and china is best country in the world hahahha

[lobyuyen]

actually serfdom of old is 100 times brutal than in tibet

[Ganeschar]

By the way I love classic music but I would have chosen another one, next time let me know i will recomend you another one !

[jan1035]

I think it's a strange vid. It must be dated from before the chinese occupation. Because they had a great conflict with the nobles and almost wiped them all out.. But this is a colour video and before the '50's there was only black and white vid's. Please explain!!!

[gbmkhm01]

The colour photo was already invented before 50's.

Most photos in this video come from a site of Oxford University. A site with 6,000 old photos of Tibet! The URL is shown in the description of this video.

[jan1035]

I was not talking about the photo's but about the video's

[gbmkhm01]

OK. Refer to:

1.

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2.

watch?v=6-tevcl41Zc&feature=ch­annel_page

3.

watch?v=_Xswu4SHixA&feature=ch­annel_page

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watch?v=UcZ29BQH-j8&feature=ch­annel_page

[TheMightyGuri]

strange, so many pictures of happy people

were are those happy people today??

[ohwnosrepeht]

"The luxurious life of Tibetan nobles !"

All nobles in a feudal society would have relatively 'luxurious' lives. I don't see what this video is trying to prove.

[gbmkhm01]

Prove the existence of Tibetan nobles, that's all.

[gbmkhm01]

Stop lying, corrupted descendents of brutal serfowners!

[lupus1122]

Only this first sentence; "Before the democratic reform". How dare they!!!!

[chinesehearts10]

On behalf of all decent and honest Chinese people, I want to offer the Tibetan people our sincere apologies. Tibet has never been a part of China. I hope one day Tibetans will receive the freedom that they need and deserve. I am ashamed of what the communist government and the CCP has done in Tibet. I hope that one day Tibet will again be free and regain its independence and sovereignty.

[lupus1122]

you're very brave and honest

[FreeTheTruth1]

give up already, we all know you are a tibetan extremist behind that user name. lol. nice try...

[GrrlGrowler]

Color film footages of the young 14th Dalai Lama and his parents from 0:20-0:30..

I think gansta rap would've made a better soundtrack.. 5*****

中华民族是一个大家庭 ^.^

[ttzhaott]

some pics in the video are chinese Qing gouverneur....Mandarin.....

I dont know if you guys can distinguish or not...

[sccoast1700]

I would like to see a video about the luxurious life of Chinese Communist Party leaders. I have a feeling they live a life the average Chinese citizen can only dream about.

[ttzhaott]

Yes, what you say were partly right.

At beginning, the communist were just going againt this kind of things, so they've win the revolution. Same for the TIbet. So it's justified. The futur, we don't know, maybe their will be anothor  revelution. So you like it ? It's always easier to say than to act.

[sccoast1700]

What it looks like to me is that even if the Tibetan nobles weren't treating their people well, at least they were Tibetans. What the Chinese are doing in Tibet is no different than what the Europeans did to China. Chinese are practicing colonialism and genocide in Tibet.

[ttzhaott]

What you qualified as genocide? that's totally a political word to me..Why the europeans came to Tibet and killed many tibetans wasn't qualified as "genocide"? And why some noramal combats between chinese communist and the Tibetan rebellions are qualified as genocide? And see a little more histories about the Constitution of the Repblic of China(Now Taiwan), Tibet was there, they were a part of China......

[sccoast1700]

@ttzhaott Destroying the monasteries, Forbidding the practice of their religion, destoying their culture, moving in thousands of Han Chinese in order to destoy Tibetan culture, forbidding the Tibetan language , imprisoning and murdering Tibetans who want to leave, discriminating against Tibetans for jobs, education etc. All these things are a form of genocide.

[ttzhaott]

(Continue) Imagine, if now china is the"Repblic of China", and Tibet is always a provence of it...so what will this whole thing become? USA will certainly not say anything of that... OK, i need to stop here..it's totally a thing that do not relative what is saying "human rights"(certainly it's good and all of us need it), but a political tool.... well, i'm not so good in English...all the way, we can read more if we really want to understand...

[beatlesfab1]

@sccoast1700 You can bet your life they do! Those hypocritical lying fools!

[refel101]

@sccoast1700

hav you ever been to china?

[wikct2]

@sccoast1700 This is not the point of this video. Are you saying because Chinese communist does bad things to its people, so Tibetan slave masters can do the same? The point is that most Tibetans exile were and still are the slave masters of majority Tibetan slaves. They love to gain back the old time when they can torture and suppress the slaves whenever and however they want. That is to ask the US to go back the slavery time before US civil war that abolished slavery system in the South.

[nphunkhang]

Yes it shows that Tibetan aritocrats lived a good life but in which society do you know the rich don't live a good life, the chinese communist leaders live like kings and queens but majority of the population live in hungry. I just want my Tibet back no matter the way of life may be but we can practice our religion freely and enjoy the life in a free society. CHINESE WILL BE HAPPIER IN CHINA just leave TIBET to TIBETANS.

ngawang samdup

[yakmanok]

This is a dumb reason! You don't invade a county just because that country is backward. If that is a valid reason, China should be invaded by all advance and democratic countries in the world because China is backward totalitarian society where feet binding was practiced widely once and child slavery and female infanticide is still rampant today. The real reason why China invaded Tibet was because of her natural resources.

[strongerthanviagra]

talking about resource, take a real live example US has demonstrated to the world...the invasion to IRAQ.

[ininper]

Didn't the "nobles" in China live like this about 50 years before this film was made? This film is nothing. You'd be a fool not believe their are still "nobles" in China today.

[He101A]

The nobles in China all fled to Taiwan with the nationalist KMT government. If they stayed in CCP controlled China, they were all killed.

[Ganeschar]

The present aristocrats in China are the CCP People !

[doezeedoats]

I see an image of powerful meaning and beauty (Long live the 正宗), and then I see all this crap. What is that about?

[gadha99]

What shameless Chinese propaganda!

"Before democratic reform, Tibet was..."

What democratic reform? China itself is a dicatorship, what "democratic reform" did it introduce in Tibet? Hmmmmmmm, me wonders!

[XCritonX]

Poor Tibetans, first oppressed by the rich Tibetans and now by the Chinese. Well thats what normally happens to pacifists, oppression. Disarm the people and they will always be victims.

[Ganeschar]

the real victims the chinese people

first under emporer

later under mao

ccp

Tibet was a free country !

[gbmkhm01]

Go on, go on, dear lovely freeTibeter.

Anyway we are brothers, u deny?

[Ganeschar]

according to Cheon1Son:

Do you even know the definition of "Brother and Sister"?

They are not your Brothers or Sisters, but your old rulers and enemies.

[gbmkhm01]

"Brothers and Sisters" is Dalai Lama's word. Is it a nonsence??

[Maohammet]

Ganeschar, Cheon1Son is a pathetic liar. Dun harm your credibilty by getting associated with him. I pointed him out as an idiot on a few occasions, then he blocked me when the embarrassment was too much.

[SagaciousLuDa]

Western Countries are such hypocrites. Look at what they have done with their imperialism. They should be the last ones to talk about human rights.

[Thunderthor1988]

nice classical music with the tibetan historical footage. Iam so happy china was able to civilize this poor country once and for all.

[patkayak]

Indeed, we are talking about propaganda. The winners are always the good ones and the losers, the bad ones. After world war 2, the German were the evil. Curiously, huge amount of women were raped by the so called heroes, the soldiers coming from all over the world. You can do propaganda if you control the media, This is what I like about the internet, we get versions from both sides and then, we can forge our own opinion. Please identify your origin so I can better know which thinking comes from

[gbmkhm01]

Most photos come from a site of Oxford University. The URL is shown in the

description of the video.

[patkayak]

I'm from Quebec, Canada. This is a province that used to be oppressed by the wealthier (the English at the time). Nothing as violent as cutting arms but humiliation and domination. Over the years, both have learned to respect each other. It has not been an easy process but the end result speaks for itself. Of course, there are still some arguments but it is in the human nature, to argue to obtain. All countries should be proud of their achievements and ashamed of the oppression made. Peace!

[XCritonX]

Not only are the english provinces no longer "oppressing" the french they are paying for most of the welfare and infrastructure in Quebec!

[legaleagleuk1963]

Philosotox

i think its bach

[yakboy01]

This video is just some stupid chinese student knowing nothing else but what the PRC shoves up their ass

[johnnysupertramp]

now u morons. china free Tibet, and stops Euro countries from colonizing Tibet and steal all Tibet's resources, just like what they have done to all of their colonies. Before the chinese came to Tibet, there were slavery and the Tibetan nobles may live a luxurious life, but more then 90% of the people are struggling to survive.

[Philosotox]

good music

[elephantismedium]

When Tibet was reeling under serfdom, China was under wide spread famine where millions die out of hunger. At that time, rest of the world was under world war-II busy killing one another. Ladies in Germany were selling their body for a piece of bread. However bad Tibet may be at that point of time, Tibetans have food to eat. Serfdom was the story of every society at one point of time on this planet. Can you accept Russia colonizing China simply because they don't like your way of life?

[morethansalt]

It is very telling that the only way for these Chinese to respond is with racially driven commentary and inaccurate,overdramatic personal attacks.

The Chinese government encourages blind nationalism to ensure that their own agenda is accepted blindly as well,under the cover of that misinformed nationalism. We must find a way to help the poorly informed Chinese people! I feel for the ignorant Chinese! It's not their fault that they don't know what is true-they live in China. Land of propoganda.

[mandrilfogoso]

let's make this a world cause !!! we should add to the list "the united states of america"... their government also encourages blind nationalism to accomplish their agenda... poorly informed north american people... i realy feel aswell for them ignorant americans. it's not their fault they don't know what's true... they live in the "big" u.s of a. land of mass media control...

[morethansalt]

I just pity the Chinese people so much. They have to live with such propaganda all of the time. The current Chinese way is a lack of personal freedom, including freedom of ideas, freedom of communication, freedom of the press, freedom of thought, even the right to follow your own beliefs regarding religion is refused. Chinese people live under a cloud of misinformation and limited access to reality. So sad.

[gbmkhm01]

How can you get such conclusion from my video?

[goldenkey007]

morethanshit

you are a fucking idiot only trusting white men propaganda, no wonder chinese are mad !!!!!!!!

it is the white men that has trampled on colored people for ages. black men and latino do not enjoy the same level of living standards in the us, why why why ??

minorities in china are treated much better !!!

so shut up !!!!!!!

[trombalazanas]

In this "logic", Italy should invade the Vatican and butcher the priests who live there. Rabid commies are so ridiculous! There are many midlle age nations inside China, and they live their ways, but not the Tibetnas, because China hates them and killed allready 1,6 million of them, plus torture, forced abortions, etc..

[gbmkhm01]

Not 1.6 million, it's 160 million! I give you a more powerful data!

[trombalazanas]

1 would be too much. Human life have no value for people like you. I believe in International Amnesty.

[AntiDefm]

Great insightful video!

FIVE STARS!!!

[oaim50]

No. 3 was Rong Zhijian, the son of the famous "Red Capitalist" Rong Yiren, who supported Mao Zedong after the 1949 revolution. Rong had $2 billion. His Citic group helps Beijing acquire overseas supplies of oil and strategic raw materials. No. 4, Zhu Mengyi, was a former state bureaucrat who owns the nationwide property group Hopson. His fortune was $1.9 billion. No. 5, Yan Cheung's wealth stood at $1.5 billion.

[oaim50]

No. 1 was Wong Kwong Yu, owner of the country's largest home appliance retailer, Gome Appliance. Just 37 years old, his personal fortune was estimated at $US2.3 billion. Next on the list was Xu Rongmao, a resort and hotel property tycoon worth $2.1 billion.

[oaim50]

In fact, the CCP has transformed China into the world's largest sweatshop where foreign investors and local entrepreneurs exploit cheap labour with little or no restriction. The 2006 list top 10 Chinese billionaires, Forbes magazine shows that the beneficiaries of China's "socialism" are not workers, but capitalists.

[AntiDefm]

It sounds like Japan was a "sweatshop" for US, and before that, US was "sweatshop" for Europe. I guess that how the capitalism works, doesn't it?!