World Trade Center 7: An Engineered Collapse Part 2/19

[radelgratereaux]

The approach in this video is excellent and absolutely truth. The NIST began investigating with the conclusion already set, wich is by the way the exact opposite of what a real investigation is.

[JadMock]

I use to believe it was controlled explosives but I watched a 1980's documentary in the making of the towers and the way they were constructed the collapse was likely to happen.

[Headshothorror4488]

Many Bigger buildings were completely on fire from bottom to top, burned 10x longer, NOT 1 EVER CAME DOWN, enough proof !!

[TetraLiteProductions]

Looks like a controlled demolition. Does NOT look like a building being destroyed by fire. Fire cause slow deformations & gradual collapse in relatively small portions. Controlled demos collapse rapidly & globally. We the People must speak up. It is our patriotic duty to challenge the 3 contradictory absurd "official" conspiracy theories. Call for a new impartial investigation into all events of 9/11. Nothing will change until the people take America back from the war-profiteers.

[lovesthecity3]

@TetraLiteProductions The fire replicated a controlled demolition, the steel around the fires melted and buckled by the weight of the portion of the building ontop of it, that then fell and brought the building down with it.

[LtCol45]

I am amazed at the lack of common sense of the morons who maid this video,JP-8 jet fuel burns at 1832F.Steel like in the world trade center melts at 1517F.The right wings who made this video are just mad beacuse they dont like bush and want to point fingers at him.Now, i am not Bius i dont like bush ethir but he is an american and to go around blaming him for somthing that was never his faul in just un-american.

[citizenfor911truth1]

@LtCol45

First of all, would care to provide a source which says that steel in the WTC melts at 1517F? Second, would you be so kind as to point out anywhere where I specifically claim that Bush was behind it? I didn't care for him addmitedly, but I'm no more impressed with Obama. And also, there was no jet fuel in WTC7.

[LtCol45]

@LtCol45 The WTC did not use specialized steel so this would fall under the category of regular steel. oh and sorry this comment was ment for the retards who are uneducated and say fuck bush when they dont know what happened at all.No disprespect to you at all.

[cheerdiver]

@LtCol45 So U believe the 6million dollar man, he could run 50mph w/ his bionic legs w/ no source of energy. Plz don't spin the burn #s, these would be for internal temp of a jet engine under many atm for pressure. In std atm condition it won't even burn as hot as a Natural Gas stove flame, Hardly 200deg C

Here is a hint to the truth humans can't hear an underground nuke detonate.

Find it or u won;t believe it, Utube has band it several yr now.

[LtCol45]

@cheerdiver Dude not only are you 4 months behind but that made no sense what so ever.

[cheerdiver]

@LtCol45 debunkers believe the 2000+ deg heat underground came out of no where. This is not possible, hence they must believe the Steve Austin was a real person, it makes as much sense. Thermite is a red herring, may have been used to corrupt the integrity of the sky lobbies but it wasn't the main charge. If don't find the real reason urself, u won't believe it or u don't care. Ur burn #s are greatly exaggerated for atmospheric conditions.

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[LtCol45]

@cheerdiver 

[RoxiiLoveRevolution]

@LtCol45 you are so retarded.. i don't have enough character count remaining nor the time in my life to waste telling you how blind you are. what i WILL tell you is- it's not about hating bush.. because he's just a puppet. it's the entire goddamned government that milks us all to death in worthless paper money and wants to take global population from 7 billion to 500 million. you know what.. someone this rude such as yourself deserves not truth. so remain blind, sheep. and sleep.

[RoxiiLoveRevolution]

Respond to this video... btw NO ONE FUCKING BLAMED BUSH

[Skeptic121]

@LtCol45 "the morons who maid this video" If you "maid" LTC then our military is in trouble. You also appear to have confused Fahrenheit and Centigrade in your steel melting point claim.

[Lateralus8808]

Okay, I don't know what happened, but if the official story is that some fiery debris fell onto this building and caused it to collapse like that, that is just bullshit. I'm not even saying it's an inside job, but that explanation is ludicrous.

[trackmaniakid27]

what is the collapse of wtc 4

[rotationtrail]

here you can see the job of hi-tech explosives

[zenoist2]

What part of steel framed buildings dont collapse from fire is hard to understand?

[crazypaul34]

Buildings of a steel structure do collapse when on fire for several hours. Just not the entire building. You'll only get a partial collapse at the very most. The buildings that day on 911 were the only buildings in history to do so.

[Weirdo10o4]

In 7, a partial collapse happened after which the building was unable to redistribute its load and it collapsed.

[crazypaul34]

@Weirdo10o4 .... a partial collapse means that only part of the building collapses. Not the entire building into dust like a house of cards.

[Weirdo10o4]

Yes, that's exactly what preceded the global collapse of Building 7. The collapse of the east penthouse is a partial collapse. The global collapse five seconds later is the failure of the overstressed support columns in the remaining structure.

[LeonPhythian69]

if the buildings fell due to localised metal fatigue how do you explain their collapse because logically if this was your arugment Weirdo!! then the building would twist off at the top and possibly a couple of floors below would be crushed in the ensueing collapse but the mai structure would still be left standing you can't possible weaken over a thousand ft x47 steel structures and habe them fail in a precise manner the phsysics don't work!!..and an electrical generator in the bassment of

[marypress]

Excellent info

Thanks!

[dtaft01]

it not only looks like a controlled demo, but an absolutely perfect one, and if all you need is some fires then i am going into the controlled demo buisness

[unclesamsnephew666]

part 1: 713 views

part 2: 286 views

this piece of shit is a FAILURE

[mooners40]

@unclesamsnephew666 great constructive criticism there pal - what's your point?

[Weirdo10o4]

Probably that this video is nothing but an extremely long compilation of the usual truther lies.

[mooners40]

@Weirdo10o4 Lies? What are your answers to the points herein? Why was there molten metal weeks after? Did Bin Laden put it there? Did Bin Laden make this building drop at free-fall speed? How about you watch all of this and leave your points along the way - and reasons -

[Weirdo10o4]

Molten metal, exactly. There are several chemical elements that melt before steel. Aluminum, lead, tin, copper, magnesium, calcium, zinc, silver. There were several thousand tons of aluminum there, cladding on the exterior columns. It didn't fall at free fall speed, neither is the onset rapid, the east penthouse caves in and 6 or so seconds later the core fails, the west side of the core failed later than the east. Anything else? I can't be bothered to go through this video again.

[mooners40]

@Weirdo10o4 the point is that it was weeks later - why would that be? And NIST even admits free-fall for 2 and a half seconds - lol - you can't be bothered ? says it all - try and inform yourself and watch the whole thing - aluminum is silvery when molten- this metal looked like lava

[Weirdo10o4]

Well the pile was still burning, it takes a long time for the kind of volumes we're talking about to cool down. 2.5 seconds of near free fall, 7 floors buckled, how does that fit in your conspiracy, doesn't it seem a bit suspicious to wipe out 7 floors when one is enough? Actually "I can't be bothered to view it again," seen it, seen all the previous, just as worthless. Aluminum is silvery at the lowest temperature of its molten state.

/watch?v=A796N_YZTm8

[mooners40]

@Weirdo10o4 of actual free-fall - not near - and it takes weeks for a good conductor like metal to cool down? what the fuck are you on? and i don't know who those people are on your vid or what is in the pot - and how can you prove it? the temperatures at which aluminum melts and steel melts and iron etc are already established and how they behave and what colour they are can be shown on a scale - what justification? lol - try watching and learning - there is a lot of info in this film

[Weirdo10o4]

Well thermite couldn't do any better, so I guess we're down to electricity and the fact that the pile was burning, iron may've started burning, too. You people haven't done anything but declared the building should've fallen in a different way, unless you provide some basis for it, you've got no case.

The video is from West Street near Chambers Street on 9/11 with seven in the background, though severely overexposed like some other videos from that day. You can check it from a map.

[Weirdo10o4]

Alloys mess the charts.

[mooners40]

@Weirdo10o4 watch?v=74qazOMbl6k

watch?v=FOwnPn_CsTk

try those

[Weirdo10o4]

What's the significance of molten steel in the basement? Since the cores remained standing, and even the bases remained after the cores failed, as seen in that picture in my video. The exterior of the WTC was cladded with aluminum, there are plenty of sources of other metals too, and lets not forget the Con Edison transformers in WTC 7's basement.

You know their boots aren't made of steel. It was hot, but no one measured it. Or heated concrete takes ages.

[Weirdo10o4]

May I interrupt this propagandacast and say BlueMurder is an idiot, he thinks the cross found from GZ was fused together from two beams.

That video is especially annoying, BM hasn't bothered to do any real research the steel lost 50% of its strength at 1100F and was down to 10% at 1800F (if you want to debunk that figure you need to debunk NIST NCSTAR 1-5) and still had a melting point of 2700F...

Jones should've tried heating it more, he doesn't even know what temperature is...

[mooners40]

@Weirdo10o4 Jones doesn't know? lol - you're a muppet - go do what you do - somewhere er, wierdo - you're entertaining - but so misinformed it's painful

[Weirdo10o4]

Either he doesn't or he's lying, you choose.

Right, can't answer anything so you just declare me a "muppet" and ignore the text. I'll tell you who is a muppet, BM911, and I have a good basis for that, can't argue with that can you, muppet?

"Misinformed," you see, when you declare that, you need to support it or it's just a declaration.

Give it a few weeks and I'll assert what aluminum looks like at 1800F, ok? Remember the "alloy" part in NIST's explanation, it's not pure aluminum.

[citizenfor911truth1]

watch?v=30OVAvg1aGQ

[Weirdo10o4]

I'll be testing that, note the "alloy" part, too.

[Weirdo10o4]

The cleanup also caused streams of metal, with their oxy-acetylene lance torches.

[mooners40]

@Weirdo10o4 i'm using molten metal in my fireplace - it's great - nice and warm and lasts for more than six weeks - isn't fuelled by anything - no cause for its heat - it's just molten for weeks - spread the word and save the planet - molten metal - it's a fuel for the future - even when sprayed constantly by the fire department

[crazypaul34]

@Weirdo10o4 .... I've been a welder for over 15 years. Cutting with torches doesn't cause streams of melted steel. You might get isolated "splatters" of steel that cool within an hour. Even if plasma cutters and gas torches were used it wouldn't explain the car-sized chunks of melted steel that were red-hot months later.

[Weirdo10o4]

Well thermite doesn't leave pools of molten steel for months.

[crazypaul34]

@Weirdo10o4 ..... You've worked with nano-thermite for how long ?

[Weirdo10o4]

Long enough to know it couldn't have even weakened the structure.

/watch?v=nrGxzsxSqMk

[crazypaul34]

@Weirdo10o4 .... I've heard about Ventura's show being bad(even by fellow supporters), but damn.... that is pretty fucking bad. As for painted on nano or super thermite, there's no way it could work, so I do agree with you on that. I do believe thermite was used in angled demolition charges along with explosives. I used to laugh at the thought of some kind of controlled demolition. But after awhile the more I looked at things, I couldn't look past certain facts that defied general logic.

[mooners40]

@Weirdo10o4 watch?v=sDh-2DtGMB0&NR=1 better one

[Weirdo10o4]

You could probably find the firefighter, suspect his name is Miller, that's what it was in one documentary, at least, but the FDNY has some 11000 firefighters so don't count on it.

[Weirdo10o4]

You don't have a single picture you can point at and say "that's a half melted steel column". Some distorted rubble, pile of molten something, etc.

[Weirdo10o4]

What's your answer to how much thermite would be needed, and since when has thermite exploded? WTC 7 had a Con Edison transformed in its basement that supplied much of lower Manhattan, that's a fucking hell of a lot of power there.

No, bin Laden is an immortal king of al-Qaeda. Khalid Sheikh Muhammed was the mastermind along with Atta.

What's your answer to the fact that the building was creaking, leaning, burning and damaged. "Oh no it's not a fire induced collapse."?

[mooners40]

@Weirdo10o4 no building high rise steel framed building has ever collapsed because of fire , never mind symmetrically lol - watch the whole thing, muppet, try and get informed

[Weirdo10o4]

mooners, that doesn't mean shit basics of science, the past shouldn't be used to determine the future. The collapse wasn't symmetrical. The Verizon building wasn't inside WTC 7's footprint. What justification do you people have to say it should've collapsed in some manner?

[homerbear46]

I LOVE this video...this "classy music" is PERFECT to start it up....

...for it is a "symphony of ownage" upon the "debunkers"(shills)

[marcela2503]

Can you pleeeeeease tell me the version of the Habanera?

[fakeham]

Great video, faved

[chunkyboy100]

controlled demolition.

dont know why people still bother to argue this one!