UG Krishnamurti on healing powers clairvoyance astrology

[prakashexe]

Future is nothing but modified continuity of past...WOW! UG...simply great!

[ramans11]

if he is a spiritual bastard, how can he curse??? hehehehehehehehe

[slooash]

An individual cannot be healed by another unless he/she (one needing healing) truly wants/is ready to be healed. There is a story where Jesus couldn't even heal his brother Daniel, because he (D) was not ready to receive the healing; & this caused him (J) great distress.

[22mar79]

@slooash UG makes it crystal clear, and I see that it's a fact too, that there's no individual at all.

[22mar79]

@TheLordAwaked To begin with, you seem to know nothing about LaVey and keep on repeating what you have learnt somewhere, lies. Their so-called Satanism is not related to any belief, on the contrary, it's something to express their absolute skepticism, by Satan they mean the truth, the thing as it really is, and not an imaginary entity. This is very well expressed in their website. So, please, don't talk nonsense. Enjoy the videos, UG tells the thing as it is, you can see by and for yourself.

[PeterSwelz]

@22mar79 Lavey was just another christian hating Jew huckster captitalizing on the shock value of being a big evil Satanist. He captialized off rebellious youths and gullible fools. "Satanism" was his "schtick" to make money and get pussy.

[22mar79]

@PeterSwelz Well, there you're judging his person, but what I was telling the other guy is just that the idea of a theistic Satanism that he had about him was wrong, so I just explained what his Satanism actually is. It does make way more sense than most of the religions, if not than all of them. Christianity, Jew haters etc, etc, it's all the same harmful bullshit. I don't even listen to UG anymore. And making money and getting pussy are the only two things in life that really matters indeed.

[22mar79]

@TheLordAwaked No one here's interested in those fairy tales, sir. Sorry. The same filthy bastards who invented Satan invented God too, they're both part of the same filthy instrument of power and control which those bastards in the seat of power invented and use to control you all, and you are all damn fool enough to swallow their shit, because you like it. So, your words don't make sense here, you're just ridiculing yourself here by preaching all that nonsense. That's all bullshit. Get real.

[TheMagicEast]

@22mar79 lol u made that sound just like UG

[22mar79]

@TheMagicEast There's no other way to make that sound either. LOL

[caviper1]

He was right on Saibaba being a criminal

[overcontrol]

sai baba is a puppets of his imagination

[overcontrol]

oh my god ...........hehe fun.....U.G: the best

[robertpricedeldin]

he is like my old drunk cantankerous uncle. After a few drinks at Christmas he would say, without fail, it's all bullshit.

[robertpricedeldin]

hilarious

[1Earth0Karma8]

When one really listens to U.G it strips off all the layers of deception and leaves you 'empty', yet 'filled' with every-thing that exists, as existence itself.

[9861356322]

@1Earth0Karma8 good comment...................but we dnt want that, we want comforter.

[1Earth0Karma8]

@9861356322 True indeed.

[1Earth0Karma8]

U.G was my favorite speaker. R.I.P

[1Earth0Karma8]

U.G had no solution for mankind nor was he interested in a solution. What happened to him is not transferable. However, we are all in our own individual process as Life purification in and as this universe. Knowledge is useless unless it is applied into reality. He didnt recommend anything, yet the basics are the basics to see who you are as Life. Common Sense, Self-hONEsty.

[iamarock09]

@1Earth0Karma8 let me guess, you are in the Desteni cult?

[1Earth0Karma8]

@iamarock09 aahahaha. lol. Nope you are in the desteni cult inside your mind. =)

[gaiagale]

@1Earth0Karma8 I smiled when I read " Common Sense, Self-hONEsty" ...it was the first time that I've seen honesty appear just so ...clever wordsmithing ...taking the word to a new level for me

thanks for sharing

[bucketbotable]

amit im just teasing you.. u just sound like a very angry person.

[amitnewyork]

@bucketbotable

All in jest, my friend, all in jest. No anger here. Don't relate to my comments on UG though. They are coming from somewhere else. Even there, there's no anger, although it might seem so.

[bucketbotable]

amit you sound like someone who doesnt get pussy.

[amitnewyork]

@bucketbotable

Oh so, that's what UG was buying you, pussyman?

[amitnewyork]

This guy said his ego was dissolved in the calamity. Yet, in several conversations, he can be heard shouting at others - I HAVE HAD COLLEGE EDUCATION IN BOTH WESTERN AND INDIAN LOGIC. SO DON'T ARGUE WITH ME. Also, he gave his opinion on every topic - scientific, political, abstract - even if he didn't know dick about it. Enlightenment takes your emotions & ego away, yet he was deeply moved by 9/11. Read his comments on it, and you can see what kind of pathetic narcissistic liar this man was.

[amitnewyork]

Anytime anyone asked a good question and he found himself cornered, he would shout at him - YOU ONLY HAVE ANSWERS. NO QUESTIONS. JUST GO. YOU ONLY WANT WHAT OTHERS HAVE. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT. It's incredible the guy pulled such crap off for such a long time! Just listen carefully to him, and a megalomaniac can easily be identified. A good for nothing idiot certainly ensured a popular & resourceful life by lying to people and telling them they were responsible for it. Very smart!

[amitnewyork]

Watch one video of UG and you've watched them all. He never had anything new to say. All his philosophy could be summed up with at the most 10 statements that he continually repeated throughtout his life. So much for the perspective of an enlightened man - narrower than my ass crack. If there was ever a fraud, this guy would be on the top of the list, simply for the beautiful way he disguised it till the end.

[KarthikSoun]

In the end it wasnt an convincing argument by UG, he used words like "you cant brush away everything" I am sure thats more than enough approval for the mystic seeker to think that he is hiding something and there may be something to astrology or sidhi crap. There are trillions of atoms in all those planets how can you calculate the probability of them falling in the right place let alone how they influence you. How would you stupid palm predict where u will end up in life! Its annoying.

[kanthan668]

Human body has healing energy, if muscles have a cut, it heals. If body infected with virus body creates anti bodies and heals.

When one is free of conflicts, naturally has lot of energy, so more healing power.. its logical.. one doesn't have to goto guru like UG!

[qigong1001]

Just responding to you, because I'm bored. Here it goes. Decay is also part of nature. Conflict is part of nature. The body can "heal", but there is no "healing energy." Also, I'm pretty sure this guy never claimed to be a guru. His kick is to expose guru's as frauds, which he has done.

[lifeblissbullshit]

@qigong1001 ,

Recently a filthy guru Nithyananda has been exposed fulfilling his sexual urge. Also in the sex video he is swallowing many tablets. The scoundrel claims to have healing powers but he could not avoid taking tablets.

UG Krishnamurti is the real guy.

Those who listened to him will not fall for any fraud gurus like Nithyananda.

[qigong1001]

@lifeblissbullshit  I looked into this Nityananda guy you mentioned. Its unbelievable how many follow that fraud. UG is authentic, even in his senile years.

[amitnewyork]

@lifeblissbullshit:

what truth did you see in ug? first he narrated in hair-splitting detail his experience of enlightenment / calamity, and then spent rest of his life saying there was no such thing and that people who spoke of it were only defrauding you. Simultaneously he would also say no one had a chance of experiencing what he did. This twisted fucker did what other frauds did: TELL EVERYONE THEY WERE INFERIOR TO HIM & HE WAS SPECIAL. Perhaps, that was the only way he could feel important.

[getParanoid]

@amitnewyork i truly agree with you. HE is like he is only the intelligent one. all other are fools. whant an asshole he is.

[twjames18]

@amitnewyork UG admitted himself he was a fool to describe the way he was functioning because people would want to try and imitate and create something around it. Also, he has a quote that says he should try himself to negate everything he said in the past about his functioning. Lastly, you don't understand what he means when he says he isn't enlightened. Enlightenment implies a goal and UG always said the natural state couldn't be achieved through any volition or will.

[amitnewyork]

@twjames18

Full state of consciousness as it was on day 1 of life is unattainable. Negating the ego and social identity is impossible, and i can't explain that to u here. Like UG, a lot of us have experienced our center, some more than others. U think ppl who've had strong experiences are more special than u r, and u start repeating their quotes like an idiot parrot, UG said, UG said. Well then, in UG's words - STOP REPEATING OTHERS (UG). TELL ME WHAT HAVE "YOU" GOT TO SAY. U just keep ranting.

[twjames18]

@amitnewyork Your first sentence shows your ignorance about the situation at all. You think UG attained something. That is the whole point of his entire fucking life. IT, the calamity or whatever the hell you want to call it, CANNOT BE GOTTEN THROUGH EFFORT! Enlightenment is a goal to be attained. That is what is commonly preached. UG said that is bullshit and that he had no idea what even happened to himself. In spite of all his efforts he said that happened.

[amitnewyork]

@twjames18

Yeah, buddy, u call me ignorant while piling up shit uttered by UG. UG said this. UG said that. You have nothing to say by yourself. Now do you? I can't hear anything from you that is not already uttered by someone else. Some intelligence that...

[twjames18]

@amitnewyork Please quit trying to be UG. Your saying I have nothing to say by myself is exactly what UG said. Which is worse, quoting a man attempting to correct a moron, or making fun of someone quoting a man with that man's quote! I know very well there isn't any experience, want, like or dislike, that I can call my own. What happened is you were struck by what UG said about nothing being your own and now your trying to use that knowledge for power over me and others. That is all knowledge is

[amitnewyork]

@twjames18

And apparently u have no memory either. I said in my earlier comment - "in UG's words - STOP REPEATING OTHERS (UG). TELL ME WHAT HAVE "YOU" GOT TO SAY." Fuck you and fuck your UG.

[twjames18]

@amitnewyork YOUR repeating UG you bastard! Just cut the bullshit front of being a tough guy. As far as telling you what I have to say for myself, I can't, but how the hell am I suppose to correct a dumbass without a common language? I wouldn't have had to respond if you hadn't been ranting and blowing smoke on here. Why don't you tell me something "you" have to say, how about that? If you took your own advice you wouldn't even speak!

[gaiagale]

@amitnewyork Oh my ...look who's calling the kettle black ...and yes someone has uttered it before ...in fact many times ...I know this virtual typelogue happened a year ago yet again I'm curious as to whether you are still of the same mind/belief ...I'm reading for the first time ...naturally I'm curious

[gaiagale]

@amitnewyork reading your comment I became curious as to whether you re-read your comment before you posted and if you still maintain your story ...and if you have research UG's life ever ...anyway feel free to ignore my reply if you wish ...words are just words

I thought I'd share a Quote from wikipedia: an individual ask UG K "What is the relationship between words and reality?" "None. There is nothing beyond words."

"There is nothing to permanence."

[1983rahulsharma]

@qigong1001 great point might .......there r corrupt people even in spirituall field ......listening to ug atleast guys like him do not play with people faith..............good to see another kind of indian gem

[qigong1001]

@1983rahulsharma The frauds are becoming more sophisticated; which makes skeptical thinking even more important. This guy seems to be one of the few who realized what he was into was garbage and b.s. and has decided to expose the fakes in the "spirit business."

[jahankavaasi]

@qigong1001 -- well there r siddhis and powers ,, but krishnamurti disagrees to that ,, i think not because he thinks it is fraud ,, it is just that he does not want people to get into such things

[qigong1001]

@jahankavaasi I've seen some of this guys other videos. He correctly identifies these "powers" as fake and a money making scam. 

[gaiagale]

@qigong1001 Decay is just a word ...the process of 'decay' is for the most part is 'digestion' at a level appearing slightly different from our process

as to "Conflict is part of nature" ...one could just as easily think ...nature is nature existing quite outside of 'conflict' ...in the same way that one can think if there is any energy at all one can assert that energy can be "healing energy"

I realize that your comment was made a year ago ...perhaps your thoughts have changed by now

[qigong1001]

@gaiagale I agree that nature is nature. But if "decay" is just a word then "digestion" is just a word. As for conflict and nature... "Conflict" is how one may perceive things. So an "event" may seem like conflict to one and seem like opportunity to another, or a learning experience, or pleasure, etc. Thus, conflict isn't part of a fixed reality. But the "event" that causes the "conflict" does not change. Energy is part of a fixed reality too. Energy is "real"; healing energy is not.

[gaiagale]

@qigong1001 in reading your reply ...it is clear that your choice of " how one may perceive things" is similar to that of a year ago ...I'll leave you to it

thanks though for replying back ...I know that a reply requires time and thought and I appreciate your sharing

respect

[gaiagale]

@qigong1001 by "event" are you referring to 'individuation' ...I understand that the process of individuation creates tension and conflict still it is a temporary state of maturation on the way to cooperation...so in that sense i agree "Conflict is part of nature"

again just a thought

[qigong1001]

@gaiagale Thats interesting. I looked up 'individuation' and I would have to read up on that., soI don't really know. By 'event' I mean anything that is happening in a area which we observe/make measurements. Conflict is just an abstraction of what is happening. Thats linked to how we feel which INDIRECTLY has physical effects (blood pressure goes up, sweating). I don't agree with the assertion that a "healing energy" exists that DIRECTLY affects the physical.

[gaiagale]

@qigong1001 Elisabet Sahtouris is one scientist that explores the concept of 'individuation' I'm quite intrigued by her method of presenting scientific research

I'm curious about your final statement in terms of " the assertion that a "healing energy" exists that DIRECTLY affects the physical" Many examples of 'energy' affecting the physical exist. Often the claims are limited to destructive affects. I am inclined to explore energy affects in terms of "healing" and/or 'benefit'

[qigong1001]

@gaiagale I'll check her out. I distinguish between measurable energy (where changes are directly analyzed) and "healing energy" where it is more of a mental effect. The psychological effects can also be measured but only subjectively. Those effects tend to be more limited, ambiguous, placebo like at times. Not that I'm discrediting psychological effects, but those are indirect. Healing energy is an abstraction to me. So, healing energy is an indirect phenomenon. This may be a good video topic.

[gaiagale]

@qigong1001 I read that in this reply you use 'effect' which is a different consideration ...whether one thinks 'healing' or 'hurting' in terms of energy measurement is a question of personal choice a little like choosing to see a glass as 1/2 full or 1/2 empty

that aside there is an interesting YT movie called 'Mindwalk' that addresses perspectives to a sub-atomic level

respect

[qigong1001]

@gaiagale Its always difficult to measure subjective changes. But perhaps I'm not being clear. If someone has cancer, we can objectively measure their blood cell count, among other things in response to medicine. We cannot measure accurately anything like the effects of "healing energy." Its too subjective because it is a mental phenomenon. Its like asking "how are you doing". There is no ruler to really measure that. So, I'm not sure your position on that. We agreeing? I'll check mindwalk.

[gaiagale]

@qigong1001 ..."We agreeing?" ...perhaps we are

the cancer analogy is an interesting perspective especially in these days ...of all the measurable cancer elements which of the 'energy used' actually aid in the process of ridding the body ...aid the healing process or is it in fact the 'mind' that transforms the energy already within the body into another co-operative energy ...healing energy ...subjective indeed ;-])

funny that you mentioned the "how are you doing" question it is a pet peeve