Many moons ago this was my career. If you think watching the thing load it's paper tape in memory was painfull, you should try troubleshooting and repairing the damn thing.
It takes so long to be made ready to fire that it can be destroyed long before it is made ready to fire. The Russians always made better tactical ballistic missile (and ICBMs for that matter) than the US. The Scud, the TR-1 Temp, Oka, Tochka and now Iskander M, they all need a fraction of the time of this missile to be made ready to fire.
You speak like angry arrogant kid who knows nothing about cold war history who knows nothing about Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty who knows nothing how many SS-4 SS-5 SS-12 SS-20 were honestly destroyed according to this treaty in USSR who can't give an example of even single treaty broken by USSR, but still claims bullshit who talks like 5 year old "USSRussia is bad evil bad copy steal buy bad China Russia"
I was on the BMRI Team 1974-76. Spent most of my time traveling from Kaserne to Kaserne inspecting unit's readiness in the field, on Sites, and in Kaserne's. Lived off-post and was always on TDY. Great assignment and worked with a great bunch of guys... General Robert Hankins was an awesome Commander.
74th USAFAD 78 to 80 A 3/9 and SVC 3/9 FA 80 to 82, My team went down range to fire about the time i was PCSing, when i got to Sill, My new Battery was firing with my old team, I fucken missed both!!! All we did was party our ass off, did a lot of QRA action at Ochsenhof, with the Rads!!! didnt realize how serious this shit was until I got out! had a hell of a time, Seen a P2 in the Smithsonian!!
I was one of the guys in this movie. The ARU operator to be sure none of it was too much fun. I was also one of the guys riding shotgun one one of the launchers. We called orrselves missile monkeys and cable humpers. Yes the were heavy. I also got to run the power station. That thing had a helcopter motor in it. A batry 3/9 F/A Ft. Sill, OK. 3rd patoon 76-78
I was in the 1/81 field artillery delta battery in 1981 to 1983 as an infantry guard. I remember being on the CAS site guarding the missiles with our magazines duck taped shut and our magazine pouches wired shut because some kid shot up a missile on the missile site a year before I got there! Remember those giegermiesters?
@ 7:10 Holy crap, the guys who made this movie know how to make compelling film.. a whole minute watching some guy pressing buttons on some crappy beeping 70s computer, whilst James Bond music plays in the background as if something exciting is happening.. lolling so hard
@zomfuqerrolflazrdor I don't disagree. I'm constantly amazed and sometimes I feel like I'm living in the future (as paradoxical and silly as that sounds).
I'm constantly amazed that a little over ten years ago, we were playing snake on Nokia 5110s, now I couldn't imagine not having internet access on a smart phone, google maps, youtube (which didn't even exist ten years ago, and is now almost an institution)
Yeah, maybe a crappy film, but a bad-ass missile that seriously intimidated the Soviet Union and helped bring down the Iron Curtain and the Berlin Wall.
@Grumpyoldgeek100 No doubt; the Pershing was a pretty impressive system. Just loling at the jaunty, nerdy hard-on the makers have for the bleeps and bloops of a hard-drive on wheels.
I was in the 1st Bat / 81st FA. in New Ulm Germany 82-84 I was ARU Op then made SGT and was a Crew Chief it would Gen take about 3hrs to have these set up ready to fire, But To have everything up, it would be 6-8 hrs. it wasnt no picnic in the field. it was cold,wet,and muddy, not to mention the foot of snow in the winter.alot of Field Grade Art 15s was issued. they went from tracks to the trailer for the Speed the M757 would run around 65mph and cold be set up on Logging roads.
I was 3/84 in Neckarsulm and 3/9 in Ft Sill. Worked on PII and trained German AF in White Sands, NM. Was also ARU and made e-5 early. Worst, yet somehow best years of my life. I am today what was required of me then.
the wheeled truck/trailer increased deployment time and capability. Tracks are slow. Wheeled vehicles can hit the autobahns and be across the country in hours. Other specifics you will have to ask a Missile tech. I was infantry support. I can tell you they can move these things pretty darn fast. A lot of times, they wouldn' t be too far behind us when we were clearing the next emplacement in the field.
Crap!!! It was suppose to be " 1st Battalion / 41st FA " Pershing I was in Alpha Battery 3rd Platoon...There was Pouncey -Road Dog-Sgt Mannigault-Foster-Kelly-Tin Man- Shakey Jake..Spent many a Cold Days out there with that Missile!!! Oh yeah!! Can't forget about B-More
A-Btry 1st Bn / *1st FA (PERSHING ) ( 3rd Herd One More Time ) We say " Nuke em' til' they Glow then shoot em' in the DarK " I was there from 11/77 - 12/79
"an infantry battalion was authorized and formed to provide additional security for the system; and, the 56th Artillery Group was reorganized and redesignated the 56th Field Artillery Brigade."
I served in A CO 2nd battalion 4th infantry attached to the 56 FA from 82-83.
Pershing Ia had three warhead yields (that we had to physically change out using the H4211B and crane): Y1 = 60kt, Y2= 220kt, and Y3= 400kt. At PII training at Canaveral they told us about the select yield warhead. As I recall there were four settings of 1.5kt, 15kt, 30kt and 60kt. This gave the capability of taking out anything from a shopping mall to a large city. I also liked the simplicity of E.D. in that its nuclear capability was rendered useless by bashing the side of the warhead!
@airraideagle The Pershing I/IA had 60, 200, and 400 kiloton warhead options. I'm not sure if this was a dial-a-yield warhead or three different warhead configurations. The Pershing II had a dial-a-yield warhead of 5 to 80 kilotons and was far more accurate. There was also a planned earth penetrating warhead that was never deployed. I don't know if this was due to cost or due to the INF treaty.
I served with Pershing 1A & 2 from 1983-1985 at Badenerhof Kaserne in Heilbronn. This brought memories of my training at Fort Sill and service in Germany.
How much time was needed to emplace and get the Pershing missile ready for firing? Was it also capable of firing a non nuclear warhead, or just a nuclear warhead? How fast its TEL was?
Why does anything have to be "glamorous"? If something valid doesn't create enthusiasm its on YOU for not having imagination to see its aspects in creative ways. I'll give you a clue; compare the Pershing's SPEED to any aircraft flying today.
I served with P1A from 1970 to 1973. Not quite as glamorous as this video would indicate but the system was deadly accurate and was staffed by some of the best soldiers available at the time.
@spec5army Were you guys told where your Pershings were targeted? Did it have a target already loaded in, or would you receive an order by radio telling you to insert tape x into machine, and it would load the targeting data?
@disamjisa I was in support not a firing battery. I repaired the Guidance Sections and the PTS and other support equipment. So the answer is no in my role.
@spec5army Props to you for doing that. I hope it doesn't sound grandiloquent or obsequious to say that people like you ensured that Western Europe remained free, so that people like me can live in a free-market democracy like the UK now.
@disamjisa I enjoyed my time with Pershing and played my small role. Thanks for your courteous reply. I did spend time in England on leave with my uncle, aunt and cousin. We want to go back to Europe within the next few years.
Holy cow.... I used this video to train new Pershing crewmen in the late 70's at the Army's field artillery school. This video certainly makes it look glamorous. NOT!
Pretty cool to see all these Pershing soldiers on here. I was only born 5 years after Pershing 2 came into service.
Also pretty cool to see original footage detailing how the system works
disamjisa 1 month ago
Many moons ago this was my career. If you think watching the thing load it's paper tape in memory was painfull, you should try troubleshooting and repairing the damn thing.
TxKimberly 4 months ago
@TxKimberly Haha, well said.
disamjisa 1 month ago
Back in those days we were the deterant to the Soviet SS120s you people may not know of these but we did ; thats why we did what we did!!!!!!!!!!!
tribler58 4 months ago
It takes so long to be made ready to fire that it can be destroyed long before it is made ready to fire. The Russians always made better tactical ballistic missile (and ICBMs for that matter) than the US. The Scud, the TR-1 Temp, Oka, Tochka and now Iskander M, they all need a fraction of the time of this missile to be made ready to fire.
StiviGun1 4 months ago
My blackberry could have launched 50 of those missiles in 6 seconds...
Taimak77 7 months ago 2
Yeah! "We Gave Peace A Chance"! Proud to be a Pershing Professional.
chiduce 9 months ago
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come on american,,,
american can make many pershing missiles and can hit destroy all iran missiles, china missiles, north korea missiles, ussr russia missiles
bestamerica 1 year ago
@bestamerica no they can't. It would violate treaties.
ShitFromTransASS 1 year ago
ShitFromTransASS,
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who is THEY,,,
come on america,,,
america can make it many missiles / rockets, arms weapons,,,
look at north korea, iran, china, ussr russia, india, pakistan has alot of building missiles / rockets,,,
are countries breaks the treaties,,,
ussr russia is the worse break the treaty from america,,,
ussr russia did break the united nations rules and ignore america treaty
bestamerica 1 year ago
@bestamerica
You speak like angry arrogant kid who knows nothing about cold war history who knows nothing about Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty who knows nothing how many SS-4 SS-5 SS-12 SS-20 were honestly destroyed according to this treaty in USSR who can't give an example of even single treaty broken by USSR, but still claims bullshit who talks like 5 year old "USSRussia is bad evil bad copy steal buy bad China Russia"
ShitFromTransASS 1 year ago
ShitFromTransASS,
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thank explain,,,
dont use a word - YOU - on me,,,
who is WHO,,,
let explain about the country,,,
not me,,,
i am not interesting ussr russia
bestamerica 1 year ago
@bestamerica
Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty
ShitFromTransASS 1 year ago
@ShitFromTransASS
no, they can't. It would violate Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty
ShitFromTransASS 1 year ago
So that final stage was purely ballistic, no terminal guidance whatsoever, just spin-stabilization?
WinchesterRanger 1 year ago
Programming, repairing, and maintaining this monster was my first career. (MOS 21G)
I just returned from Ft Sill where I saw one of the few Pershing 1A and Pershing 2's left in the world. :-)
NoTorr2000 1 year ago
I was on the BMRI Team 1974-76. Spent most of my time traveling from Kaserne to Kaserne inspecting unit's readiness in the field, on Sites, and in Kaserne's. Lived off-post and was always on TDY. Great assignment and worked with a great bunch of guys... General Robert Hankins was an awesome Commander.
Evan20008 1 year ago
So this is the famous missile S-300 V build up to fight against it. Cool
tramvaj12 1 year ago
i´ve seen one of these at the lufwaffenmuseum in berlin gatow.
gus23a 1 year ago
74th USAFAD 78 to 80 A 3/9 and SVC 3/9 FA 80 to 82, My team went down range to fire about the time i was PCSing, when i got to Sill, My new Battery was firing with my old team, I fucken missed both!!! All we did was party our ass off, did a lot of QRA action at Ochsenhof, with the Rads!!! didnt realize how serious this shit was until I got out! had a hell of a time, Seen a P2 in the Smithsonian!!
RaiderEd92201 1 year ago
I was one of the guys in this movie. The ARU operator to be sure none of it was too much fun. I was also one of the guys riding shotgun one one of the launchers. We called orrselves missile monkeys and cable humpers. Yes the were heavy. I also got to run the power station. That thing had a helcopter motor in it. A batry 3/9 F/A Ft. Sill, OK. 3rd patoon 76-78
cwalls420 1 year ago
nukem til they glow then shootem in the dark
radioxdeath 1 year ago
I was in the 1/81 field artillery delta battery in 1981 to 1983 as an infantry guard. I remember being on the CAS site guarding the missiles with our magazines duck taped shut and our magazine pouches wired shut because some kid shot up a missile on the missile site a year before I got there! Remember those giegermiesters?
bigcomcast 1 year ago
@ 7:10 Holy crap, the guys who made this movie know how to make compelling film.. a whole minute watching some guy pressing buttons on some crappy beeping 70s computer, whilst James Bond music plays in the background as if something exciting is happening.. lolling so hard
disamjisa 1 year ago 5
@disamjisa
On the contrary, it's freaking amazing to see how far we've come in 40 years!
zomfuqerrolflazrdor 1 month ago
@zomfuqerrolflazrdor I don't disagree. I'm constantly amazed and sometimes I feel like I'm living in the future (as paradoxical and silly as that sounds).
I'm constantly amazed that a little over ten years ago, we were playing snake on Nokia 5110s, now I couldn't imagine not having internet access on a smart phone, google maps, youtube (which didn't even exist ten years ago, and is now almost an institution)
disamjisa 1 month ago
@ 4:36 Fuck, that is excruciating, watching that 70s computer load for like two minutes
disamjisa 1 year ago 6
@disamjisa
Yeah, maybe a crappy film, but a bad-ass missile that seriously intimidated the Soviet Union and helped bring down the Iron Curtain and the Berlin Wall.
Grumpyoldgeek100 1 month ago
@Grumpyoldgeek100 No doubt; the Pershing was a pretty impressive system. Just loling at the jaunty, nerdy hard-on the makers have for the bleeps and bloops of a hard-drive on wheels.
disamjisa 1 month ago
I was in the 1st Bat / 81st FA. in New Ulm Germany 82-84 I was ARU Op then made SGT and was a Crew Chief it would Gen take about 3hrs to have these set up ready to fire, But To have everything up, it would be 6-8 hrs. it wasnt no picnic in the field. it was cold,wet,and muddy, not to mention the foot of snow in the winter.alot of Field Grade Art 15s was issued. they went from tracks to the trailer for the Speed the M757 would run around 65mph and cold be set up on Logging roads.
JDkrazzzy 1 year ago
I was 3/84 in Neckarsulm and 3/9 in Ft Sill. Worked on PII and trained German AF in White Sands, NM. Was also ARU and made e-5 early. Worst, yet somehow best years of my life. I am today what was required of me then.
TheFlwebwzrd 1 year ago
@JDkrazzzy I was there in Ulm in 71-72 ....... Great memories.
You're right ...... "alerts" out in the field were no picnic. Well described brother.
Wotbulb 1 year ago
the wheeled truck/trailer increased deployment time and capability. Tracks are slow. Wheeled vehicles can hit the autobahns and be across the country in hours. Other specifics you will have to ask a Missile tech. I was infantry support. I can tell you they can move these things pretty darn fast. A lot of times, they wouldn' t be too far behind us when we were clearing the next emplacement in the field.
ssgrock3 1 year ago
Crap!!! It was suppose to be " 1st Battalion / 41st FA " Pershing I was in Alpha Battery 3rd Platoon...There was Pouncey -Road Dog-Sgt Mannigault-Foster-Kelly-Tin Man- Shakey Jake..Spent many a Cold Days out there with that Missile!!! Oh yeah!! Can't forget about B-More
rodimus48prime 2 years ago
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StiviGun1 2 years ago
wow brings back memories, my husband was stationed at nelson barracks 579th ord co. 76-80. anybody out there
elviraups 2 years ago
A-Btry 1st Bn / *1st FA (PERSHING ) ( 3rd Herd One More Time ) We say " Nuke em' til' they Glow then shoot em' in the DarK " I was there from 11/77 - 12/79
rodimus48prime 2 years ago
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StiviGun1 2 years ago
with Cco 2/4inf in Heilbronn from 87' to 90'
any tower rats here?
ssgrock3 2 years ago
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StiviGun1 1 year ago
I was in Wiley (Neu Ulm) "B" Battery 1st/81st from 11-71 til 5-73; "Best of times . . Worst of times. . . "
zootallures08 2 years ago
Can you tell any targets in Czechoslovakia of your battery?
PavelZ23 2 years ago
74th USAFAD @ Lagerlechfeld. '76-'78
JuanCarlosJones 2 years ago
I was stationed @ Wiley from 75-77.
Two, four, six, eight ,,, who do we obliviate?
Nuke em, nuke em, nuke em
sneakers53 2 years ago
Wow, such a happy ending.
rodolphesimon 2 years ago
i live near heilbronn and i know the stories about the pershing missiles there^^
blaCKStrIPPA 3 years ago
I served with Pershing in Heilbronn from 79-82...B battery 3/84 FA....this really does bring some memories!
dlprobert 3 years ago
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ubbm1234 2 years ago
You just missed me. I was at headquarters from 1973-78.
sbflash311 2 years ago
At Wiley Barracks, Ulm, Germany 1971-72 ....Man, THIS brought back memories. EXCELLENT !!! FTA and the Herbies too ...yeah, man !!
PFW23 3 years ago
"an infantry battalion was authorized and formed to provide additional security for the system; and, the 56th Artillery Group was reorganized and redesignated the 56th Field Artillery Brigade."
I served in A CO 2nd battalion 4th infantry attached to the 56 FA from 82-83.
bones24inf 3 years ago
Hi.
How powerful of a nuclear warhead did
Pershing carry?
It was a tactical warhead right?
airraideagle 3 years ago
The first models had a 300 kiloton warhead.
Later models had a dial-a-yield anywhere between 8 kt and 80 kt
Legend813a 3 years ago
Pershing Ia had three warhead yields (that we had to physically change out using the H4211B and crane): Y1 = 60kt, Y2= 220kt, and Y3= 400kt. At PII training at Canaveral they told us about the select yield warhead. As I recall there were four settings of 1.5kt, 15kt, 30kt and 60kt. This gave the capability of taking out anything from a shopping mall to a large city. I also liked the simplicity of E.D. in that its nuclear capability was rendered useless by bashing the side of the warhead!
tiefmesser 2 years ago
@airraideagle The Pershing I/IA had 60, 200, and 400 kiloton warhead options. I'm not sure if this was a dial-a-yield warhead or three different warhead configurations. The Pershing II had a dial-a-yield warhead of 5 to 80 kilotons and was far more accurate. There was also a planned earth penetrating warhead that was never deployed. I don't know if this was due to cost or due to the INF treaty.
Nater245689 1 year ago
810 me
srry
chacken69 4 years ago
go to 7: 45 in the time
chacken69 4 years ago
as long communications are in order the old transformers type music is groovy enough.
chacken69 4 years ago
I served with Pershing 1A & 2 from 1983-1985 at Badenerhof Kaserne in Heilbronn. This brought memories of my training at Fort Sill and service in Germany.
karlkcfi 4 years ago
How much time was needed to emplace and get the Pershing missile ready for firing? Was it also capable of firing a non nuclear warhead, or just a nuclear warhead? How fast its TEL was?
StiviGun1 2 years ago
Die Pershing2 warn bei uns in der Nähe stationiert. Heilbronn Waldheide
PzGreni362 4 years ago
Awesome Video! Whoever found this and uploaded it nice find. Blackjack would have loved this missile system.
PershingPictures 4 years ago
Why does anything have to be "glamorous"? If something valid doesn't create enthusiasm its on YOU for not having imagination to see its aspects in creative ways. I'll give you a clue; compare the Pershing's SPEED to any aircraft flying today.
dynmicpara 4 years ago
B Co 55th mnt BN
Nu Ulm Germany
83 to 85
Odie2fine 4 years ago
Thanks for the video.
generalderpanzer 4 years ago
Hi,Youtube!
Is there any movie concerned about "Pershing 2 Missile"?
I'd like to see the movie concerned about "Pershing 2 Missile".
Please do me a favor(Pershing 2 Missile).
(not Pershing missile)
jeanpierre3930 4 years ago
Sam Bell 1st, 81st 1985 where are you?
goobectomy 4 years ago
very nice video,thanks for uploading
mudylafeet 4 years ago
I served with P1A from 1970 to 1973. Not quite as glamorous as this video would indicate but the system was deadly accurate and was staffed by some of the best soldiers available at the time.
chipman2269 4 years ago 2
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StiviGun1 2 years ago
Yep they made it look glamorous but it wasn't. I was a Electronics Repairer 21L on this thing
Taterdawg63 4 years ago
@Taterdawg63
I was a 21L20 from 1971-73 on Hardt in Schwabisch Gmund.
spec5army 2 months ago
@spec5army
Me too. 71-72 at 578th in Neu Ulm.
Grumpyoldgeek100 1 month ago
@Grumpyoldgeek100
Did you know Joe Kershen (sp)
spec5army 1 month ago
@spec5army Were you guys told where your Pershings were targeted? Did it have a target already loaded in, or would you receive an order by radio telling you to insert tape x into machine, and it would load the targeting data?
disamjisa 1 month ago
@disamjisa I was in support not a firing battery. I repaired the Guidance Sections and the PTS and other support equipment. So the answer is no in my role.
spec5army 1 month ago
@spec5army Props to you for doing that. I hope it doesn't sound grandiloquent or obsequious to say that people like you ensured that Western Europe remained free, so that people like me can live in a free-market democracy like the UK now.
disamjisa 1 month ago
@disamjisa I enjoyed my time with Pershing and played my small role. Thanks for your courteous reply. I did spend time in England on leave with my uncle, aunt and cousin. We want to go back to Europe within the next few years.
spec5army 4 weeks ago
Holy cow.... I used this video to train new Pershing crewmen in the late 70's at the Army's field artillery school. This video certainly makes it look glamorous. NOT!
Aberdumbie 4 years ago
thank you for share this video!! i'm very interested in "old" electronics, for example, how can this missiles hit their tatget without GPS...
doraipeich 4 years ago