Visions Of Hell (1)

[jmoonsuede]

Wow this is beyond stupid! How dumb can people be to try and fool themselves into thinking there is no God! The fact that they need to be in a group/cult like setting is proof there is a God, because they need to feel like they belong and a sense of fellowship just like a church or other religous group look how close they are sitting next to eachother and how they need to share thier ideas so that they can feel like their not alone in their belief. Guess what there is a God and you better repent

[bringonthewrath]

@jmoonsuede I sure hope you have some evidence other than bringing that emotional bullshit

[RockBandFAQ]

@jmoonsuede That was by far the dumbest argument for the existence of god I have ever heard.

[jmoonsuede]

@RockBandFAQ I think the fact that there are athiests in the world is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard of!

[RockBandFAQ]

@jmoonsuede -_-

[hymnofashes]

@jmoonsuede Yes.... people need community and moral companionship. They needed it before Christianity; they'll need it after; an atheist who throws out that baby with your bathwater is an idiot; Christianity is still totally false.

[jmoonsuede]

@hymnofashes Why dont you watch "To hell and back" Its so easy to be an atheist when your alive and well but it wont be so easy when your lying on your death bed wondering "was I wrong my whole life about denying Jesus?" Guess what even then it wont be too late to repent because God is all merciful but the sooner you do it the better for you it will be.

[hymnofashes]

@jmoonsuede I did. I may wonder that on my deathbed, simply because I've been told that I will so many times by those such as yourself, and from such an early age, but I think I will have the strength of character not to bargain with a false god at the end of life out of panic, because doing so would give credence to harmful and wrong beliefs that are causing suffering and ignorance in this world, our only world, and I care about that, even after I'm dead, and so should you.

[jmoonsuede]

@hymnofashes So I'm guessing you think your going to come back as a tree or manuer? Gosh so your saying your lord Jesus christ died in vain for your sins? This is blasphemous and I am sorry you feel like I am condemning you but you are the one doing it to yourself, its never too late to embrace Jesus he is always there for you and is waiting for you to call upon him.

[hymnofashes]

@jmoonsuede We don't come back, my friend. This is it. Religion is a technology, a system of thinking. You are projecting a perfect version of yourself onto God, and doing what that version of you says. Religion is a way of giving yourself permission to do that, and giving yourself reinforcement from others who are doing the same thing. It's not all bad. But it isn't true. I bear no ill will to Jesus, he's just not god. The universe is much bigger than we are- not created by a 'person' like us.

[jmoonsuede]

@hymnofashes All I can say is Godbless you and Peace be with you because you clearly need it.

[thelordmemnoch]

@jmoonsuede Why would he need it? Why would anyone want to be a slave to a tyrant? "Love me or I'll torture you." That doesn't sound like love, it sounds like a prick of an abusive husband. I hope you don't have daughters and teach them to love something sick like that.

[jmoonsuede]

@thelordmemnoch I don't have the power to bless him so thats why I said "Godbless you" because clearly he needs to know and feel Gods blessing since he has strayed far away from him and needs to reminded that God loves him and always will. If anyone is being abusive its people like you who are intolerant to people if faith!

[thelordmemnoch]

@jmoonsuede No, I am intolerant of masochistic people, such as yourself, who finds comfort in being forced to love something or someone that you might not love. It is called abuse to the rest of us, sir. And as usual, you are so deluded that you call me intolerant, yet you can't accept someone's rejection of faith without accusing him/er of "straying and needs to be reminded that God love him and..." That is YOUR way of saying, "I don't care what he believes, he needs to believe me!" Idiot.

[jmoonsuede]

@thelordmemnoch Wow I guess people are so brainwashed by media images and books written by flawed man that they have to act so vile and disgusting like you do to someone because he gives a blessing? This is astonishing to me! THIS IS WHY PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NEVER HAPPY GOT IT?! I hope you will be one day though and I will pray for you too because you CLEARLY need peace in your bitter heart. Godbless you too! :)

[thelordmemnoch]

@jmoonsuede Fine by me, waste your time in private on my behalf, I don't care. I would prefer you be female if you were going to think of me in private, with your eyes closed and on your knees, but whatever floats your boat. And from me to you, may your prayers be answered as swiftly and as forceful as usual, which would be the same as if you didn't pray in the first place. Some people don't make the connection. Others like me do.

[jmoonsuede]

@thelordmemnoch Godbless you and your in my prayers :)

[thelordmemnoch]

@jmoonsuede you're*

[345thisisfrustrating]

@thelordmemnoch He does not say that , God can create what He wants He is God , He created man and because God is pure love He gave a free will , good or evil and God has shown us the way with the bible and if we do not choose it we go to hell we send ourselves He does not . If He was evil and said love me or burn , we would be robots and or He would not have given us the bible for guidance and or He would not have become human form to save us the God of everything died for our smelly butts

[thelordmemnoch]

@345thisisfrustrating See how brainwashed you are? If I told a chick to show me her tits else I "hit her across the face with a bat," does she "choose" to get hit by not showing them to me? No. And it's this type of nonsense I have to deal with when I speak to you guys. If you don't love god he tortures you forever. Period. That is a tyrant. Good thing he doesn't exist or we would be fried. Thank goodness for the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

[345thisisfrustrating]

@hymnofashes He was first and foremost God almighty and in order to relate to us He put Himself in a human form but He is not human , He is spirit first as are we .

[seeqer66]

It's to bad this didn't get into the Canonized Bible. Peter sounds like he could have given Dante a run for his money. And that's around a thousand years earlier.

[shawndimery]

Matt is awesome

[valu777]

MAT / DILL is afraid of valu777 blocking him

Mat 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:

But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. Servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. Are you the enemy of GOD sowing bad seed?

[GarethandSarah]

@valu777

Why would he care if some nobody blocks him?

[valu777]

@GarethandSarah its mat whop has blocked value 777 and is afraid

[GarethandSarah]

@valu777

You talk about yourself in third person?

And why not call into the show?

Or take whatever proof you think you have to a scientific journal to be published and become world famous.

[valu777]

@Gareth and Sarah i am in Australia other wise i would visit the show , all the proof one needs is there , the bible for example is the worlds best selling book , it also is the most peer reviewed book in history ,. its worth taking heed to , am i right?

[GarethandSarah]

@valu777

I said call in, not visit, people call the show from all over the world.

And Harry Potter sold more than most factual books. Does the sales of the book mean it become true? Is it all really a popularity contest?

Errr, what's your source for it being the most peer reviewed book ever? It wasn't even written by eye witnesses. And very few things in it have been verified.

[valu777]

@Gareth and Sarah eye witness of Jesus death wrote the letters of the bible new testament post your evidence to the contrary , or we will take your comment as a mere opinion , ps we all know harry potter is fiction , my opinion is that most of the people in the world are owned by the devil and it is natural for them to love a witchcraft story , this just proves that many are condemned by God ans are awaiting eternal judgement

[GarethandSarah]

@valu777

Mark is dated between 80-85 according to most, though I was mistaken with some of the others, 50 or later.

In any case, you don't become right if someone can't prove you wrong, that isn't how logic works. Whilst a man walking on water is not silly at all? And competing with a childrens book for souls shows how mature you are with your religion. A lot of Christians read HP.

So by loving a childrens story that is about how good and love triumphs over evil means people are in trouble?

[valu777]

@Gareth and Sarah this is where you error have you ever seeked after God? (i dont men understand with your head) have you ever with your feelings sought after God almighty? Try the life of the Jews as a reality hardly a children's story , try the 7 feasts of the Jews and you will see that 4 out of 7 have come to be actual world events with 3 feasts left to happen shortly in the future , the next feats is the feast of trumpets where Jesus returns for his church , check out Israil for the facts

[GarethandSarah]

@valu777

Do you think that I have never asked god to reveal them self to me? I've done it sincerely.

I would like for death to not be the end, I would also like to be able to fly, meet Santa, and turn things into gold.

I have no idea what the rest of this is about.

Answer my other comments from my last post.

[valu777]

@Gareth and Sarah Do you think that I have never asked god to reveal them self to me? I've done it sincerely. then you will find him if that is the case as the promise is to those that seek will find are you still seeking ?

[GarethandSarah]

@valu777

I guess so.

It hardly seems fair for him to sent me (Or allow me to go to, depending on your interpretation) to hell, when I am sincerely seeking. Isn't it gods responsibility if I die an atheist? Considering at least in recent times there has not been any big magic, you would think he'd try harder on personal revelations and get at least half (Instead of 1/3, many which according to you are condemned anyway because they like a childrens book full of magic.

Waiting on those responses

[valu777]

@GarethandSarah try TB Joshua a minister in africa he has some good vids on the power of God in operation

[GarethandSarah]

@valu777

Saw one with some puss coming out of someones leg.

Others seem to be at best ones that were the person "died" shortly before, whilst brain activity continues for several hours after and reviving people is not uncommon.

I'd like to see him heal a brain tumor in an operating room with monitored conditions. I will then accept he has some sort of power, be it from a god or himself.

I'm gonna assume that you are conceding your arguments in the comments you have failed to respond to.

[ptica11]

@valu777

so this African god is operating on himself?

[valu777]

@ptica11 the bible says that satan is the god of this world

[ptica11]

@valu777

but of course there is a satan and his name is jesus

[valu777]

@ptica11 fail in the name of Jesus we cast out devils

[ptica11]

@valu777 so sine u and ur retarded motherfucking monster jesus are devils then u must be casted in

[valu777]

@ptica11 sounds like you have some evil spirits living in you , well the blood of Jesus and his word will set you free , call on the name of Jesus to be free

[ptica11]

@valu777

i agree motherfucking jesus is 1 evil spirit from the depths of hell

in the name of 1 and only true god WONKO. go and see a psychiatrist

[valu777]

@ptica11 i am certain the you are infested with unclean spirits , you feel the urge for all kinds of lust and then cannot help your self , right? the blood of Jesus is answering your sin to set you free

[ptica11]

@valu777

again i agree that this motherfucking jesus is fested with unclean spirits

after all he impregnated his own mother to beget himself

[valu777]

@ptica11 well God loves you even when you are the sinner

[ptica11]

@valu777

but of course 1 and only true god WONKO love me

[valu777]

@ptica11 your right he made you i cant understand WHY?

[ptica11]

@valu777

but i know why SHE made u mr religionists simpleton

to entertain me

[valu777]

@ptica11 try my entertainment ? that is to destroy the works of the devil, casting out demons in the mighty name of Jesus , applying the BLOOD of Jesus to my life and to others , now thats entertainment

[ptica11]

@valu777 i bet u forgot to take ur meds again :)

so how r they treating u in the mental ward?

i see that u r allowed to play on the internet

now take that stinking blood of ur idiot monster demon motherfuck cheezus jesus and stick it up ur ass

[valu777]

@ptica11 To be washed in the blood of the Lamb is to be washed by virtue of the blood of Jesus, that is, by virtue of his death

[ptica11]

@valu777

so u r in the laundry business?

i have doubts whether blood is a good cleaning agent

so this mother fucking jesus? how is he doing being stuck in ur arsehole?

[valu777]

@ptica11 @AGrandt only an idiot believes that there is no God (according to the bible)

the Blood of Jesus contains all his descendent's (blood line) all were made extinct on the cross in a not lawful way , Jesus compensation for his bloodline is a bankrupted creation and eternal life for all ppl he wishes to give it to ,

to make it fair all one needs to do is accept it by way of saying thank you , in this way God has forgiven all of mankind

what is the problem?

[ptica11]

@valu777

only complete idiot believes in the utterly retarded book compiled by primitive band of desert camel fucks

ur jesus is a motherfucker as he impregnated by rape his own mother disguised as holy spook or something equally retarded

[valu777]

@ptica11 i see that you have unclean spirits residing in you these perversions take over your thoughts and deeds from time to time , this is where you loose control like addiction , the good news is that in the name of Jesus we can cast expel these spirits because of the Blood of Jesus the Christ spilled

[ptica11]

@valu777

since wonko is 1 and only true GOD(tm) u will rot in muslim hell where u be ass raped daily by 3 headed monster demon cheezus jesus

[ptica11]

@valu777

better repent and accept horus or u will rot in muslim hell where u be ass raped daily by 3 headed monster demon cheezus jesus

[valu777]

@ptica11 thanks for the advise , there is one problem there is no evidence of what you say if there is evidence please post it?

[ptica11]

@valu777

but of course jesus is a motherfucker as he impregnated his own mother disguised as holy spook to beget himself

[ErikaAtheist]

@valu777 Your embarrassing yourself.

[lqacwaz1]

suppose things are so wired that believers go to hell, nonbelievers go to heaven? ;)

[MesserschmittBf109g6]

Matt is my hero =D

A debate between him and Ray Comfort would be epic (pwnage)

[sapunec7854]

oh sure I can end world hunger end disease find a way for mankind to spread to other planets live in harmony with the universe BUT I will be tortured for ETERNITY, my soul would be destroyed of pain just because I did not believe BUT someone who muredered millions hindered human progress for millenia tortured in the most horrible ways imaginable and was a desgusting predator... went to paradise because he repented 5 secs prior to his death?

[deafencryption]

@sapunec7854 sounds sensible HUH!! pfft :P

[TILLEYJS]

Good stuff

[Ievolovel]

Is this shit getting vote botted or what?

[Findulidas]

Suprise me if it hasnt.

[hymnofashes]

@Ievolovel yes....

[tannagra]

i, personally, make judgements all the time, as do you i'm sure, that's how we live and survive,

I do this with evidence and reasoning.



If there is any real evidence for God, them i'm all for it...BUT there isn't, or can you provide some??

[KILIANA777]

@tannagra DONT WORRY ONCE U DIE U WILL FIND OUT BUT UNFORTUNATLY FOR U IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR ETERNITY...THAY WE CALL FAITH..BELIEVE IN SOMETHING THAT U CANT SEE !!

[dmguitarist99]

and I'm supposed to believe someone who can't construct a proper sentence and use correct grammar?

[MalachorWraith]

Dude, you call it faith because you have to force yourself to believe it ...in order to believe it. It's similar to hypnosis.

[MrBoomable]

i'd rather go to hell then spend eternity in heaven with a bunch of inbred believers that live to kiss ass! lol you can't make a reasonable argument so you threaten people with eternal torture...what a nice christian attitude.

[kristie7089]

@MrBoomable Im so sorry if you have met any so called christians who have judged you or upset you. As a christian I love all others even thoughs who hate me, i do not judge, all I ask is that you please realize that hell is real , and its so very bad. Please dont go there it wasnt meant for you. Ask god to be your lord, forgive you and he will

[MrBoomable]

@kristie7089 you seem like a decent human being and i respect you for making your point without threatening or pointing fingers,but i cant agree with you on your claim that there is a hell...i simply cant.There is no reasonable point in believing in god or hell or whatever,other than blind faith in the bible,a book that to me is nothing but wasted trees.I don't mean to upset you,thank you for your concern,but i think i'm going to be fine.

[MrCuriosity29]

all doubters need to be carefull, as man who are we to deny anything really we live for a mere 70 maybe more years this universe has been around approx 13 billion mankind as we know it, At most 200,000yrs (homo sapiens), Who the f**k are we to make judgement on this creater we know nothing of anything !

[DrawingYou]

For two thousand years I'm sure there has been tens of thousands of suicides to get in to heaven. Can you say 9/11?

[236549]

I would be very scepticle that the Apocalypse of Peter was written that early. The depictions of hell have nothing to do with anything in the accepted Cannon. It may come as a surprise that the actual bible never speaks of dead people being alive anywhere. The bible says that there is no conciousness in death. By the way, the Lazarus parable is speaking symbolically of the fall of the Jewish nation.

[jimidinh]

Oh, those wacky christians and their loving, torturing God :) Isn't that just adorable?

[turkeyburgers]

Believe what I believe or you will not get ANY virgins in the afterlife!

[ClumsyRoot]

Who wants virgins? Give me sluts! They got SKILLS!

[Xorinite]

That's three videos I have rated to counter votebots. Only 109 left!

[myfacevids]

It was a tactic created to scare people into belief as by itself it wasnt effective enough

[Valkes]

Every dictator ever has claimed that their people loved them, that they were in some way a father figure, or great in some way. They punish those who don't love them, either by kicking them out of their area of influence, or killing them painfully. How is this in anyway different from God?

[bunnykins110P]

It is not quite that simple, God is not punishing us. We are punishing ourselves by our free will walking towards the evil. It is up to us where to go, only we make this decision while on earth. I was a non-believer until I died and had my life0changing experience. Now I a competely different person.

[Valkes]

No, it is that simple. Assuming your God is real, he gave some of us a rational mind, and the ability to categorize evidence based on certain standards, and then, just for kicks, he decided to tell us about himself with some of the most abhorrent, genocidal, filth ever to disgrace the minds of men. And to top it all off, we went ahead, and made these documents historically questionable, thus removing any chance that a rational, civilized human could ever muster the courage to believe in him.

[Valkes]

prt 2: and then in these documents he demands that we worship him or spend eternity in some form of torment. The only choice I see here is between logic, and willful ignorance, between savagery, and intellect. That's not much choice at all. If god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, to die for our sins, why can't he send us a clear, testable, conclusive sign of his existence? Why are we forced to rely on the feeble accounts of savages?

[bunnykins110P]

Valkes I could not agree with you more on so many points. I also question why God does not just "appear" to us in the sky and tell us what he thinks and advices us what to do here. I was a non-believer until I died and luckily for me came back, I was a stock-broker and now I am a specialist in the medical field. I had to change my life completely. My home, job, car, hobbies, friends. I understand that it can be hard to have faith when there are so many "frauds" out there. Pray one time. Try it.

[Valkes]

I'm sorry to say that personal experience, and appeals to emotion are not a basis for a belief system. now you say you died, and saw God, and that he made your life better, that's great for you, but unless you can prove it, with actual fact, I'll have to call bullshit. The fact that you were so close to death must have been a scary thing for you, and your mind probably created a pleasant scenario for you to hide in, sadly that's not evidence for a deity.

[bunnykins110P]

I do understand where you come from and why you feel thay way. Now I have to say that many of the people in the medical team working on me that night have made changes in their lifes also. I was actually pronounced dead so It was a little more than a "near" death exp. I have had hundreds of people speaking to me about this after, many of them doctors. I will sound sick to say but I almost wish some people could be flatlined so they would know the truth.

[bunnykins110P]

Just to add also, it started somewhat pleasant but sorry to say it certainly did not stay pleasant. There are far too many things that happens to me now and right after this experience that is just too overwhelming in amount of proof. I would tell you more but will probably just waste my time it seems to me. I wish you well though. Bless you my friend.

[Valkes]

I resent the idea that I am in need of your blessing. The fact is you went through a traumatic experience, and your mind created a buffer for you to be able to deal with it, it's not proof of any kind.

[bunnykins110P]

"my blessing", i am sorry to say that I do not have that kind of power only God does. I think that you should watch something called the message of water by a Dr Emoto, this is actually pure science so maybe this will convince you just a little bit. There is more than meets the eye. So many people only think things they can see or touch exists so to them I always ask- Do you believe in radio?

[Valkes]

Radio can be detected, quantified, and measured, as can air, xrays, gamma rays, ect. Your God however, cannot be detected by any means known today, has not been shown to exist in anyway, and the only way we even know about it is through vague scribblings of pathetically bigoted men. Unless you can produce some kind of evidence that proves he exists, I'll stick with my rational assertion that he does not.

[FranklenWylder]

"Radio can be detected, quantified, and measured, as can air, xrays, gamma rays, ect. Your God however, cannot be detected by any means known today,"

I believe it was Rev Brian Warner who revealed to us that God is indeed in the t.v. . Amen.

[Valkes]

I'm not familiar with that event, if you could perhaps provide some documentation, I would be glad to check it out.

[Hiddeknight0]

I know! God is in my television.

Also, Satan is in my toaster, the Easter Bunny is in my coffee mug, Santa Claus is in my table, and I have faeries in my bathroom cupboard.

[FranklenWylder]

Satan is in your toaster, yes. how else do you think it gets so hot? If you bought your coffee mug from a christian owned company than the Easter bunny is in it. Santa in your table? That's just silly! Everyone knows we have fairies in our cupboards.

[Valkes]

There are many scientific reasons for what you experienced. For example, the human mind is not meant to deal well with death, as such you probably subconsciously created a scenario that was pleasant for you. It's still not proof.

[albatross1977]

I thought there was a tenet in your religion not to test God. Or is it only considered a test if the prayer doesn't work?

[phocjame]

Believe what I believe or i'll hurt you.

[Theronguardaaah]

lol oooh brian

[Amacisconfused]

You have convinced me with your eloquence and logic and threatening of my life!

[DanLightning]

LOL

Believe what I believe or God will hurt you by telling me to hurt you.

[phocjame]

LOL

Believe what I believe or I will hurt you, yet I will think that it is God hurting you by a voice in my head telling me to hurt you.

[DanLightning]

hahaha

2,000 years ago, Jesus got himself hurt for you, so hurt yourself now, lest I hurt you (in Jesus' name) and you be hurt for eternity after you die.

Man, there's a lot of pain and suffering associated with such a "joyful" and "peaceful" religion... =P

[phocjame]

:P

You must never kill another human, for murder is a mortal sin.

You can however, kill anyone that doesn't believe in me, because that's alright.

[Valkes]

Disbelieve what I disbelieve, or I'll gather all the atheistic scientists, and take them somewhere, and you don't get any new technology.

[phocjame]

I can't top that.

[samsonl310]

Great video/lecture......I just wish I was able to see the pictures you were showing....:)

[DefaultPosition]

Excellent video. I hope Matt does and records more of this. It's great stuff.

[KladionicaCity]

Good stuff.Looking forward for part 2.

[932016]

great. thx for posting the lectures.

[tommyk77]

Cool. I didn't know Matt did talks like this