Armstrong, was able to get his Tour wins because of people like Dr. Ferrari. His V02 max of 82 is really low for a Grand Tour contender, goes to show how juiced up he has to get. Consider that Contador's is 88, Basso's is 87 & Ullrich's was 85.
Some reports suggest that testicular cancer at a young age is linked to hormone abuse. Although I'm not suggesting that the great American, who defeated testicular cancer, would do such a thing. It speaks volumes of LA that he continually beat his peers, even when a lot of them were utilising artificial performance enhancers... David Millar, Tyler Hamilton, Danilo Di Luca, Marco Pantani, Folyd Landis, Gilberto Simoni, Ivan Basso, Alexander Vinokourov, Jan Ullrich...
Even though EPO use gives an improvement of 20%. 20% doesn't sound like a lot but multiplied over the length of the tour... 3500km = 700km LA beat them all. What a guy!
Fuuuuck... 3:22. The intensity is off the Richter scale!!
As far as this Merckx, LeMond, Indurain comparison deal... They are all great cyclists and athletes, but I think Lance has brought more publicity to cycling, especially in the latter part of his seven straight wins. Despite the publicity being about "did he, didn't he? He said, she said", Lance gets more people out cycling than anyone else (in North America at least).
Doping aside though... do you think he'll win this years tour??
It's too bad that subsequent revelations about Aldag and Zabel have "tainted" this film . . . It's really one of the most handsome pieces of cycling cinema ever.
lance armstrong was a tour rider not a lot else, eddy merckx is the most complete cyclist ever to have raced, giro d'italia, 3 x milan-san-remos, 2x gent-wevelgens, tour of flanders, fleche wallone and paris robaix all before the age of 25 and before he rode the tour, amazing.
maybe armstrong couldn´t have won all that one day classics or the giro or la vuelta but i i would have challenged LeMond, Mercks, Fignon to win 7 Tours...that´s just over human limits. doesn´t matter the use of drugs... that achievment is over human capabilities
what is the best car? who is the best painter? who is the best driver? who is the best cyclist?
nobody can tell. of course you american guys can identify yourself with him, an that's okay. but i think in the whole history, eddy merckx was the most influental character....
Do you people even know of Eddy Merckx or Bernard Hinault at all? Lance was good don't get me wrong but he wasn't the best... he didn't win 525 races or 11 grand tours like Merckx and a slew of other races. So please study up before you make statements like that
lance a time trial specialist? Watch him get creamed by indurain back in the day in the TTS; Lance became a great time trialist but he was first a great climber. The smaller guys are usually the better climbers
kingalleles Lance was not on anything except his ass for 5 hours a day for 20 days..Lance was born to ride a bike. his femurs are 3 inches longer than the normal human, and his heart is 4x bigger. he can pump more blood to his muscles in only a tenth of the pumps our hearts do
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Let's admit it, once and for all, Lance Armstrong is the greatest cyclist. Of course, there are many many more who are awesome too -like me for example...*nanner smiley*- but Lance is D B-E-S-T!
but Lance Armstrong would of be tested and tested for drugs in his system....hes just got a really strong determined mind? good natural genetic superior body, and has trained damn hard, and deserves his title.
oh,btw most competitive cyclists use anabolic steroids at some point sometime... usually during there training, then they come off them for a few months, or so prior to competitions when there at risk of being tested...who wouldn't use them? a lil won't do them any harm''is what they think, just to gain a bit of extra muscle which the body doesn't naturally produce no matter how hard you train.
You dont know what your talking about. Cyclists use steroids to aid in muscle rebuilding after working out. You recover faster and are fresher the next day when "on". They don't take steroids to get more muscles. Cycling is not limited by the amount of muscles you have.
Lance was on the juice!! Come on??? Cancer patient wins seven tours in a row with no aid? Not possible! I'm sorry I just can't buy that one. If you do, I got some prime real estate for you.
i totally agree with coeurlion,if ulrich had put as much commitment into the tour as armstrong did hed have stood a better chance of if not beating him would have ran him a lot closer.this video here was the year he did put extra effort in and had he not fallen he would have won it,you cant fuck around with your body wieght and expect to be fit for winning this race,so rates wise up hes absolutely right and if you showed a little less ignorance and wise up you might see that to.
Yeah, he's full of drugs alright, adrenaline, determination, and desire. Ride a bike sometime you jagoff. That's the problem with cycling going mainstream, it opens the sport up to criticism from people who don't know anything about riding.
i can tell you that I know definitly more about riding. I'm a good friend of Alejandro Valverde and attend caisse d'espagne since 1 year now...so thats something u can't tell me
just like that huh? You look into his eyes from a bad camera angle on a rainy day during a time trial and your "expert" diagnosis is that he's on drugs? You fucking momo!!
I don't know what the fuck you're saying. i think you're sating that riders are still on drugs, and you're probably right, but what does that have to do with the fact that you are "sure" lance was on drugs cause you could see it in his eyes?
Well then great. The tour can fire all those expensive doctors, take out all of the complicated and accurate testing, and just hire you..........to look into all the riders' eyes, before and after the tour.
I think the problem with ulrich was that he wasn't strong in all aspects of cycling. He had huge, I mean absolutely HUGE anaerobic power, but lacked in other aspects.
I'll show you a example: close to where I live there is a large dike, which I use to practice, it is pretty curvy, with lots of bends in it. If you forget to lower your gear while taking the corner, it is gonna be hard to pick your speed up again. If you forget those kinds of thing in the Tour, you're screwed.
Ullrich is a giant waste of talent. He never lost the weight he needed to become a better mountain rider. Plus he makes horrible tactical descions. All his mistakes are correctable so it's hard to root for him. At least if your a true tour-junkie.
Coeurlion is a waste of flesh and oxygen. If we could lose him from the planet, we would have a much nicer time watching these videos with out his worthless opinions. I wish he would fall on a knife.
It's pointless to debate this topic. American athletes are comming from games man ship and few others are comming from preservation of sports man ship. It's not even topic of debate.
I remember waking up at like 5:45 in the morning to see the 6am preview show and the stage started at like 6:30 am. I was pulling for Ullrich to win so much, and he really deserved to win that year. Ullrich went for it and lost. Had it been dry, I still believe Ullrich woudl have overtaken Armstrong in the GC, but we'll never know.
Why do you care about the whole issue? Today we know that both were cheaters since both doped - even though they would never admit it. But it is obvious for anyone who wants to know the simple truth.
Who could that be? It is really amazing how ignorant you guys are. Why don't you just admit that these guys are doping and cheating - if you like, you can admire them anyway...
so? even if .. that does not mean they are not great athletes. if you think that doping makes it so much easier to achieve what they did try it yourself.
i think you are just jealous pric who can't achieve anything even by doping
Why do you get so excited? Yes, maybe these guys are great athletes. But in order to be a real star there has to be more - for example honesty, truthfulness and such things... Don't you think so?
no I don´t think so.. people like us make these icredible athletes stars. I don't like people talking about whtat they don´t know..you should be one of them..then you would understand why they use prohibited substances
Ullrich didnt won the stage because while Armstrong was riding in order to recognize the stage Ullrich was sleeping and he just saw a video of the stage, however Armstrong knew the stage because he rode it.
Ullrich was a good cyclist but didnt have the heart of a champion while lance did it.
Going fast is but ONE SMALL PART OF THE WHOLE? Correct me if Im wrong but that was a time trial right? In a cycling race? Now next time you feel like commenting on a cycling video slap ur self a couple of times. Thanks. Also buy a time trial bike and train hard for many years and then go ride your fastest (however slow that may be) in weather like that and you will see how easily the rear wheel comes out. /rant
Jan was not the best bike racer that day, as evidenced by his inability to keep his machine upright. Going fast is but one small part of the whole. The better racer won. That's how it should be.
Man what are you on? Inability to keep his machine upright? Armstrong was beating Ullrich in the over all time classification. Ullrich had to take risks where as Armstrong could afford to slow down and take the corners safely. Ullrich put it all on the line, he took risks, he crashed, he lost. All or nothing.
Going fast is but ONE SMALL PART OF THE WHOLE? Correct me if Im wrong but that was a time trial right? In a cycling race? Now next time you feel like commenting on a cycling video slap ur self a couple of times. Thanks. Also buy a time trial bike and train hard for many years and then go ride your fastest (however slow that may be) in weather like that and you will see how easily the rear wheel comes out. /rant
cool video ULLE all the way!
nofearfor13 1 year ago
Armstrong, was able to get his Tour wins because of people like Dr. Ferrari. His V02 max of 82 is really low for a Grand Tour contender, goes to show how juiced up he has to get. Consider that Contador's is 88, Basso's is 87 & Ullrich's was 85.
mustardjunkie 1 year ago
you can see the spark of ullrich's deraiileur on the road when he fell
SDE2490 2 years ago
Some reports suggest that testicular cancer at a young age is linked to hormone abuse. Although I'm not suggesting that the great American, who defeated testicular cancer, would do such a thing. It speaks volumes of LA that he continually beat his peers, even when a lot of them were utilising artificial performance enhancers... David Millar, Tyler Hamilton, Danilo Di Luca, Marco Pantani, Folyd Landis, Gilberto Simoni, Ivan Basso, Alexander Vinokourov, Jan Ullrich...
comac1983 2 years ago
Even though EPO use gives an improvement of 20%. 20% doesn't sound like a lot but multiplied over the length of the tour... 3500km = 700km LA beat them all. What a guy!
comac1983 2 years ago
I love Armstrong, but you gotta feel bad for Ullrich after something like that
Guitarman340 2 years ago
I meant to give a thumbs up... sorry about that
OCEANNA421 2 years ago
Fuck Pharmstrong ....
Ullrich wins 2min of him in this time-trail ....with the fall....derm.....he is the best rider ever , best time-trailer who ever lived
UUUUUUUULLEE !!
AbuMaxOne 2 years ago
Fuuuuck... 3:22. The intensity is off the Richter scale!!
As far as this Merckx, LeMond, Indurain comparison deal... They are all great cyclists and athletes, but I think Lance has brought more publicity to cycling, especially in the latter part of his seven straight wins. Despite the publicity being about "did he, didn't he? He said, she said", Lance gets more people out cycling than anyone else (in North America at least).
Doping aside though... do you think he'll win this years tour??
Sleveless 3 years ago
Yeah if people only knew the truth.
largefallingicicles 3 years ago
It's too bad that subsequent revelations about Aldag and Zabel have "tainted" this film . . . It's really one of the most handsome pieces of cycling cinema ever.
sjl62 3 years ago
lance armstrong was a tour rider not a lot else, eddy merckx is the most complete cyclist ever to have raced, giro d'italia, 3 x milan-san-remos, 2x gent-wevelgens, tour of flanders, fleche wallone and paris robaix all before the age of 25 and before he rode the tour, amazing.
Sabre264 4 years ago
I agree. and many will dispute me on this but I think Greg LeMond was a better rider overall than Lance Armstrong.
bobbypinhead 4 years ago 2
maybe armstrong couldn´t have won all that one day classics or the giro or la vuelta but i i would have challenged LeMond, Mercks, Fignon to win 7 Tours...that´s just over human limits. doesn´t matter the use of drugs... that achievment is over human capabilities
jonathonpower6666 3 years ago
what is the best car? who is the best painter? who is the best driver? who is the best cyclist?
nobody can tell. of course you american guys can identify yourself with him, an that's okay. but i think in the whole history, eddy merckx was the most influental character....
tobotron 4 years ago 4
well i dont know about the painter, but i can tell u that ullrich is the best cyclist.
BadNumbers 4 years ago
Do you people even know of Eddy Merckx or Bernard Hinault at all? Lance was good don't get me wrong but he wasn't the best... he didn't win 525 races or 11 grand tours like Merckx and a slew of other races. So please study up before you make statements like that
bikerdude5580 4 years ago 12
@bikerdude5580 Eddy Merckx=greatest cyclist of all time
OCEANNA421 1 year ago
@bikerdude5580 True, but Armstrong would have owned Mercks, Hinault, Copi, all of them, anytime.
Gre3njaw 1 year ago
@Gre3njaw Yeah, because he used his cancer to take forbidden substances for free.
Durhandoni80 6 months ago
@bikerdude5580 douchey!!
xxmdogxx1ify1 4 months ago
of course lance Armstrong won...he's a time trial specialist. he started as doing triathlons so he's experienced with TTs
ravinlikefire 4 years ago
lance a time trial specialist? Watch him get creamed by indurain back in the day in the TTS; Lance became a great time trialist but he was first a great climber. The smaller guys are usually the better climbers
partylwc 2 years ago
kingalleles Lance was not on anything except his ass for 5 hours a day for 20 days..Lance was born to ride a bike. his femurs are 3 inches longer than the normal human, and his heart is 4x bigger. he can pump more blood to his muscles in only a tenth of the pumps our hearts do
boomerh91 4 years ago
boomer; lance wasn't born with a bigger heart; he trained his heart to be that big; as far as femurs go i cant disagree that.
partylwc 2 years ago
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Let's admit it, once and for all, Lance Armstrong is the greatest cyclist. Of course, there are many many more who are awesome too -like me for example...*nanner smiley*- but Lance is D B-E-S-T!
drmarthacastro 4 years ago
Hello helloooo, kingalleles.....CANCER PATIENTS DON'T DOPE!
Lance Armstrong is a very special human machine, that is why HE IS the best man on wheels, ever.
drmarthacastro 4 years ago
Ullrich was closing in on Armstrong in that TT. Was the most exciting finish of the tour in the Armstrong era
goosfrabha 4 years ago
whats the music/tune name used at the end when it shows the 2 riders finishing? may i ask plz.
bkermike 4 years ago
but Lance Armstrong would of be tested and tested for drugs in his system....hes just got a really strong determined mind? good natural genetic superior body, and has trained damn hard, and deserves his title.
bkermike 4 years ago
oh,btw most competitive cyclists use anabolic steroids at some point sometime... usually during there training, then they come off them for a few months, or so prior to competitions when there at risk of being tested...who wouldn't use them? a lil won't do them any harm''is what they think, just to gain a bit of extra muscle which the body doesn't naturally produce no matter how hard you train.
bkermike 4 years ago
You dont know what your talking about. Cyclists use steroids to aid in muscle rebuilding after working out. You recover faster and are fresher the next day when "on". They don't take steroids to get more muscles. Cycling is not limited by the amount of muscles you have.
packeteer 4 years ago
ulle can sock my cock, he won tour once! CONGRATULATIONS! armstrong won 7 times :)
Gozitza 4 years ago
I love Ulle!
rkay51 4 years ago
Lance was on the juice!! Come on??? Cancer patient wins seven tours in a row with no aid? Not possible! I'm sorry I just can't buy that one. If you do, I got some prime real estate for you.
kingalleles 4 years ago
Is any of it spoken in english?
natalied14 4 years ago
amazing
Oliverblablabla 4 years ago
i totally agree with coeurlion,if ulrich had put as much commitment into the tour as armstrong did hed have stood a better chance of if not beating him would have ran him a lot closer.this video here was the year he did put extra effort in and had he not fallen he would have won it,you cant fuck around with your body wieght and expect to be fit for winning this race,so rates wise up hes absolutely right and if you showed a little less ignorance and wise up you might see that to.
amk68sco 4 years ago 2
haha AlexH09
no one cares if your valverdes "friend"
i happen to know dave millar, does that make you better than everyone else or somethin?
ajohn9 4 years ago
What place is that were the guys are watching, were they say thats it for ullrich, is that like a viewing area or betting place or something?
sunnysang 4 years ago
dude, armstrong looks like an animal and the eyes tell you that he's full of drugs
AlexH09 4 years ago
Yeah, he's full of drugs alright, adrenaline, determination, and desire. Ride a bike sometime you jagoff. That's the problem with cycling going mainstream, it opens the sport up to criticism from people who don't know anything about riding.
obscureluzername 4 years ago
i can tell you that I know definitly more about riding. I'm a good friend of Alejandro Valverde and attend caisse d'espagne since 1 year now...so thats something u can't tell me
AlexH09 4 years ago
Oh then please, allow us to bow down to you *rolls eyes*
btinder711 4 years ago
Right, thats the only possible explanation. You are so wise!
btinder711 4 years ago
just like that huh? You look into his eyes from a bad camera angle on a rainy day during a time trial and your "expert" diagnosis is that he's on drugs? You fucking momo!!
jvallee76 4 years ago
you are so naiv to think that even only one rider wasn't on drugs in this year
AlexH09 4 years ago
I don't know what the fuck you're saying. i think you're sating that riders are still on drugs, and you're probably right, but what does that have to do with the fact that you are "sure" lance was on drugs cause you could see it in his eyes?
jvallee76 4 years ago
i mean that in the period of 1990-2006 almost everyone was on drugs,also Armstrong and that I can easily see that in his eyes...even if u don't
AlexH09 4 years ago
Well then great. The tour can fire all those expensive doctors, take out all of the complicated and accurate testing, and just hire you..........to look into all the riders' eyes, before and after the tour.
jvallee76 4 years ago
you don't get it...I'm just telling you the facts. The tour is just one big show, which is exciting to watch,also for me
AlexH09 4 years ago
in the period of 1990-2007 !!!
Runner74000 4 years ago
I think the problem with ulrich was that he wasn't strong in all aspects of cycling. He had huge, I mean absolutely HUGE anaerobic power, but lacked in other aspects.
I'll show you a example: close to where I live there is a large dike, which I use to practice, it is pretty curvy, with lots of bends in it. If you forget to lower your gear while taking the corner, it is gonna be hard to pick your speed up again. If you forget those kinds of thing in the Tour, you're screwed.
stealthyshogun 4 years ago
Ullrich is a giant waste of talent. He never lost the weight he needed to become a better mountain rider. Plus he makes horrible tactical descions. All his mistakes are correctable so it's hard to root for him. At least if your a true tour-junkie.
Coeurlion 4 years ago
Coeurlion is a waste of flesh and oxygen. If we could lose him from the planet, we would have a much nicer time watching these videos with out his worthless opinions. I wish he would fall on a knife.
rates11 4 years ago
It's pointless to debate this topic. American athletes are comming from games man ship and few others are comming from preservation of sports man ship. It's not even topic of debate.
SetembroCachorro 4 years ago
Ullrich would have won that year had he been on a good team, but he messed up the previous season. Ullrich was never a good bike handler.
fuckingridiculous198 4 years ago
stop hating
stiiffey 4 years ago
all of the argueing is ridulous. are you not fucking entertained? if not, why are you watching?
emils01 4 years ago
I remember waking up at like 5:45 in the morning to see the 6am preview show and the stage started at like 6:30 am. I was pulling for Ullrich to win so much, and he really deserved to win that year. Ullrich went for it and lost. Had it been dry, I still believe Ullrich woudl have overtaken Armstrong in the GC, but we'll never know.
Krymson86 4 years ago
Why do you care about the whole issue? Today we know that both were cheaters since both doped - even though they would never admit it. But it is obvious for anyone who wants to know the simple truth.
bertreiniger07 4 years ago
Why don't you just shut up. Get over the fact that at least one of them wasn't on drugs, and is in fact a great athlete.
IamME142 4 years ago
Who could that be? It is really amazing how ignorant you guys are. Why don't you just admit that these guys are doping and cheating - if you like, you can admire them anyway...
bertreiniger07 4 years ago
so? even if .. that does not mean they are not great athletes. if you think that doping makes it so much easier to achieve what they did try it yourself.
i think you are just jealous pric who can't achieve anything even by doping
omnadrenas 4 years ago
Why do you get so excited? Yes, maybe these guys are great athletes. But in order to be a real star there has to be more - for example honesty, truthfulness and such things... Don't you think so?
bertreiniger07 4 years ago
no I don´t think so.. people like us make these icredible athletes stars. I don't like people talking about whtat they don´t know..you should be one of them..then you would understand why they use prohibited substances
ImDFunkinDonut 4 years ago
Ullrich didnt won the stage because while Armstrong was riding in order to recognize the stage Ullrich was sleeping and he just saw a video of the stage, however Armstrong knew the stage because he rode it.
Ullrich was a good cyclist but didnt have the heart of a champion while lance did it.
kevint88 4 years ago
fuck you lance! ullrich should ha won! end of the story.
extrume87 5 years ago
Going fast is but ONE SMALL PART OF THE WHOLE? Correct me if Im wrong but that was a time trial right? In a cycling race? Now next time you feel like commenting on a cycling video slap ur self a couple of times. Thanks. Also buy a time trial bike and train hard for many years and then go ride your fastest (however slow that may be) in weather like that and you will see how easily the rear wheel comes out. /rant
mehow313 5 years ago
Jan was not the best bike racer that day, as evidenced by his inability to keep his machine upright. Going fast is but one small part of the whole. The better racer won. That's how it should be.
jhendric1000 5 years ago
Man what are you on? Inability to keep his machine upright? Armstrong was beating Ullrich in the over all time classification. Ullrich had to take risks where as Armstrong could afford to slow down and take the corners safely. Ullrich put it all on the line, he took risks, he crashed, he lost. All or nothing.
mehow313 5 years ago
Going fast is but ONE SMALL PART OF THE WHOLE? Correct me if Im wrong but that was a time trial right? In a cycling race? Now next time you feel like commenting on a cycling video slap ur self a couple of times. Thanks. Also buy a time trial bike and train hard for many years and then go ride your fastest (however slow that may be) in weather like that and you will see how easily the rear wheel comes out. /rant
mehow313 5 years ago
Taking risks + crashing out = Best rider of the day?
jhendric1000 5 years ago
No im not arguing hes the best rider of the day. Im saying taking risks is what he had to do.
mehow313 5 years ago
I hate this stage almost as much as the Luz Ardiden stage! Ullrich should ha won! He deserved it!
hal565 5 years ago