Super Capacitor Imhotep Radiant Oscillator

[pricecraig72]

Your vid is popular on Vatican City

[valveman12]

OK but you keep saying you are not using a battery but you are. The capacitor bank is your battery. Then you convert the low voltage to a high voltage through a simple oscillator circuit, light goes on and second cap charges while you drain the source battery. Eventually everything drains down and no more oscillations. Is there more to this? What is the benefit of this demonstration? Is there something special about this?

[Lidmotor]

@valveman12 ---- I think that you missed the point of this video. This was to show a way to recover SOME of the energy that the circuit was using. This is one of those "flyback" or "backspike" recovery circuits that are all over the web now. The capacitors were used to show the energy moving from one side of the circuit to the other side. It is harder to show this using batteries alone. This device consumed most of the joules of energy with heat and light.

[valveman12]

@Lidmotor OK thanks for the explanation. How long have you had this run for?

[Lidmotor]

@valveman12 -----It only ran for seconds. I can't remember exactly how long. We moved away from this method of lighting a CFL because of the annoying buzzzzzzzz of the relay. A solid state circuit was developed that oscillated the ignition coil instead of the relay. The whole thing ended up in a plactic box and I called the project the "Lunch Box".

[Iseekoutthetruth]

what size capacitor would you need to charge a 12 volt car battery?

[Avatar230594]

man super capacitors are the way of the future. It will shut the hippies and green peace up. Much "cleaner and greener".

[count3rculture]

why dont you get some of those super capacitors in solar cars that have barium titante ive heard they have unique capacitance properties like a battery but also like a capacitor and they sote upto 40% of any in put or output they may even get better than that soon ive heard there making some eperimental ones that can store upto 89% of all output or input

[lookatthewholething]

Wonderful but, and there is always a but, a circuit would need to be added to switch between the two capacitor banks to prove that you have something. The capacitor banks would also need to be exactly the same to eliminate questions. I am not denying your work. I think it's great. I am just saying that more needs to be done to prove it but I am sure you are aware of this already. Can you leak power from the charged caps to the charging caps via diodes? I look forward to your progress.

[tommya300]

Something similar to a switching power supply! Only thing is that there is no external energy at the moment of use. Swtching the output usage will lower the amount of discharge. BTW how long did this circuit operate befor the caps needed to be recharged using the external battery source

[saren1994]

I got a: electrolytic british made red 100uf ellerno yellow 200uf ellerno green 40 uf ellerno 350v dc wkg plain negative 439/1/23603/050 75-36

capasitor :P

[commando7144]

did anyone see the guy on tv promoting ultra capacitors? i guess they where invented back 30 years ago and radio shack used to sell drawings on how to make i guess they will handle the spike that a batterie gets from hard draws. i think there 2 stage

[TomasZEX10]

please someone tell me fast whats that thing that u check the voltage of capasitor is called??????????????????and what kinda 1 would i need it, i only need for checking capasitors from my graphic card!

[08Kutt]

Is Possible, Load 3 Capacitors (400v 220uf)

With 100v Continuous?

[Lidmotor]

Yes. The energy will flow into multiple capacitors also. Ac current will flow right throught the cap but pulsed DC will buildup in the cap like in this video. A 100v charge will sit in the 400V 220uf capacitors until you release it. The charge will drop in voltage as it is relaesed unlike a battery that is designed to hold a certain voltage as the energy is drained. I have succesfully used a voltage regulator on the cap output to hold a certain voltage as it flows out.

[tommybshr]

good way to set your house on fire

[InventorGadget]

heey that's really sweet! nice and clear setup.

Ok, something to try out if u like:

Use 2 supercap (20F) INPUT and 2 supercap (20F) OUTPUT. Charge IN-caps up, and run the system.. Let's see how long u can run it on ONE charge.. then swich IN/OUT caps, and run again!! How many times will it run? That shoud give some info on how efficent this system really is, i think. Grate build!

[Lidmotor]

Here is what I want to do: Build that rig but small, put it in the freezer to super cool it, and run the experiment under cold conditions. That would be REALLY interesting!! If a light is on in the freezer and no one sees it is it really on??? LOL

[waterhouse24]

Awesome demo Lidmotor glad you are part of the "team" ;)

[Lidmotor]

Thanks, What an amazing device and what an amazing idea to let people from around the world work together on this. Great idea from Imhotep and Shiva.

[OmegaThe1]

Very Good work !

1- Can you plz tell us what are the exact values of source and target capacitors ?

2- What is the voltage on source capacitor after the target is charged to its full rated voltage ?

3- Can you repeat the experiment with identical caps (say 100uF each)? This way the energy gain is simply V2/V1 and no messy calculations are needed.

[Lidmotor]

I ran this experiment with the parts that I had on hand: Source super caps-- (1) 2.3V 50F and (4) 2.3V 10F connected in series. Target electrolytic cap--1300uf 100V. The source super caps keep driving the oscillator until the relay stops working at about 6V. I didn't record the target end voltage as I discharged the cap along The way. It would be interesting to run the experiment with matched digital display car audio farad caps to see what happens. And don't forget about the light!!!

[OmegaThe1]

Thats 2.4F at 11.5V effectively on source side, which means it has 158.7J of energy initially. At 6V its 43.2J, which means u spent 158.7-43.2 = 115.5J.

This means you need to charge your target cap to 421.5V to get back the spent energy. You can't check that with a 100V only cap as target, so I suggest that you use 2x10F at source and 2x10F at target and repeat the experiment again.

[OmegaThe1]

Of course, whether you can do it will depend on the voltage you need to operate the circuit.

Light is not so important here, its only a load and if you manage to get back the spent energy even if the load is not there, you have overunity.

[Lidmotor]

This is not an overunity device. It eats energy. The energy goes away in heat. The purpose of this demonstration was to show that this circuit could recover SOME of the energy being used to drive it. Imhotep's purpose for this invention was as an emergency CFL lighting system that was very simple to bulid. I believe that Dr. Peter Lindemann worked on the energy recover part. More and more replications are showing up. I have seen none that even mention overunity.

[tomcon1001]

Very nice! re: "I believe that there is a way but I have not looked into it yet. " ... Do you need some more supercaps or parts to finish looking into this option?

[Lidmotor]

I need more parts.

[armakuni2000]

i suppose that we must rise up the frequency like Tesla did it.... like 100 nanoseconds

[Lidmotor]

This design is all about resonance. Getting the frequency dialed in makes this thing sing.

[marquis6461]

From what I know of circuit creation. Here goes. We need only to make another relay circuit which will pulse the energy from the charging cap back into the source caps making sure that when the pulse is sent to the source the charging cap is removed very little from the circuit we have now.

[tsimonin]

use a 555 circuit...

[Lidmotor]

Someone else is working in it right now and there should be working 555 replication soon.

[armakuni2000]

yes, the rele is the weak point... I suppose that in the Tesla's time there wasn't the 555 circuits lol

grat job and many thanks

[Lidmotor]

That is exactly how I think that it can be done. Excellent!!

[byjoveoldchap]

Excellent demo and very clearly explained Lidmotor. If people will only realize how easily it can be done, it will encourage some of them to try it for themselves. Great work and even better results!

[Lidmotor]

This design was intentionally made very simple by Imhotep and Dr. Lindemann so that almost anyone could make it.

[tsimonin]

Can you use power from the large capacitor to charge the bank of small capacitors back up?

[Lidmotor]

I believe that there is a way but I have not looked into it yet.

[cribcat1]

That's pretty impressive for caps. What kind of caps are you using-- How many uf's and what voltage rating. They took awhile to charge so I guess "super caps" are not like normal electrolytic. They are also in series which cuts the capacitances into fractions. Where do you buy them?