@GonoManiax I just got ZG2 in the mail yesterday, fantastic game, awesome graphics, PS3 quality graphics almost. I haven't bought Under Defeat yet(I am going to ) so I can't say which is better, but from the looks of these videos of both games on youtube, ZG2 looks a lot cooler than this.
@bbutters2 ZG2 is an awesome game, really. And as you say, could be cooler than Under Defeat because ZG2 has robots bosses, mechs, transformers and stuff like that. The style is way more futuristic and the gameplay's a bit more diverse...
But if you think ZG2 has great graphics, you'll be stunned by Under Defeat, which probably has one of the more developed graphic engines on Dreamcast, it's just an outstanding technical work on the graphics department.
First. The graphics are better in this. Hands down. This has some of the best explosions PERIOD. The effects are better and the models are more detailed.
Second. Zero Gunner 2 is nice but it is not like that added much. As a matter of fact, without the rotation it would be a everyday shooter with the gimmick of the bosses second wind/form.
Under Defeat's end of level explosions are an attempt to compensate for how pitifully weak the heli feels every moment leading up to them.
The excellence of Psikyo is as much about what they didn't add (crappy scoring/power-up systems - see G.rev's stuff). They perfected simple ("everyday") arcade shooting.
@xoxak Need to google "weak". The game does not even have/need power ups in the normal sense. Your normal weapons are enough to beat the entire game. I think that would be much harder with NONE in ZG2. ZG is good but not perfection.
hehe i remember Grev saying in that french shmup history vid that the most important part of a shmup is big explosions, plus in that vid they mentioned they loved those vids that they were very proud about those trees.
I dont think this is trying to be Zero Gunner at all...Its aiming to be an Ol School type of shooter w some Modern Graphics..Did you look at the explosions the smoke coming out..Wasnt to 360 where we see effects like that..I think you should re-examine this game....
was not aware Forrest Gump did video game reviews....
reesercliff 2 weeks ago
derpa derp derpy duuuuhhr reduhhhh derrrrrrrrrp!
88skullkid 4 months ago
The end line was fucking genius :D
SuperDarkserpent 7 months ago
This game is way better than Zero Gunner 2. AND WE ALL KNOW IT
GonoManiax 8 months ago
@GonoManiax
No one honestly believes that.
xoxak 8 months ago 2
@GonoManiax I just got ZG2 in the mail yesterday, fantastic game, awesome graphics, PS3 quality graphics almost. I haven't bought Under Defeat yet(I am going to ) so I can't say which is better, but from the looks of these videos of both games on youtube, ZG2 looks a lot cooler than this.
bbutters2 5 months ago
@bbutters2 ZG2 is an awesome game, really. And as you say, could be cooler than Under Defeat because ZG2 has robots bosses, mechs, transformers and stuff like that. The style is way more futuristic and the gameplay's a bit more diverse...
But if you think ZG2 has great graphics, you'll be stunned by Under Defeat, which probably has one of the more developed graphic engines on Dreamcast, it's just an outstanding technical work on the graphics department.
GonoManiax 5 months ago
First. The graphics are better in this. Hands down. This has some of the best explosions PERIOD. The effects are better and the models are more detailed.
Second. Zero Gunner 2 is nice but it is not like that added much. As a matter of fact, without the rotation it would be a everyday shooter with the gimmick of the bosses second wind/form.
AmanOU2be 8 months ago
@AmanOU2be
Under Defeat's end of level explosions are an attempt to compensate for how pitifully weak the heli feels every moment leading up to them.
The excellence of Psikyo is as much about what they didn't add (crappy scoring/power-up systems - see G.rev's stuff). They perfected simple ("everyday") arcade shooting.
xoxak 8 months ago
@xoxak Need to google "weak". The game does not even have/need power ups in the normal sense. Your normal weapons are enough to beat the entire game. I think that would be much harder with NONE in ZG2. ZG is good but not perfection.
AmanOU2be 6 months ago
hehe i remember Grev saying in that french shmup history vid that the most important part of a shmup is big explosions, plus in that vid they mentioned they loved those vids that they were very proud about those trees.
TrevHead10 1 year ago
Just bought this and Zero Gunner 2 for Naomi.
arttuy 1 year ago
i wish to god this would come out on the xbla
badassrover 1 year ago
2:38-2:43 "that's what a good scoring system be, good exciting: add a new layer of depth shooting crates." Really like that line ahahahahaahhahaaahah
Afrowasi 2 years ago 3
I dont think this is trying to be Zero Gunner at all...Its aiming to be an Ol School type of shooter w some Modern Graphics..Did you look at the explosions the smoke coming out..Wasnt to 360 where we see effects like that..I think you should re-examine this game....
bacardipr05 2 years ago
shootin crates
psykick77 2 years ago
it's like asking for unicron for christmas and getting a unicorn.
fucking genius.
harblardo 2 years ago 38
do you really talk like that or is part of your review angle?
genx1973 3 years ago 3
RayForce? Don't you mean RayStorm? ;)
gs68 3 years ago
I prefer this to Zero Gunner 2, also. It has a completely different feel &, yes I'm going to say it, the graphics & sound ARE better.
turrican69 3 years ago 2
Shimmying cone trees LOL pure comedy bro - keep it up!
DjDedan 3 years ago 6
I actually prefer this to Zero Gunner 2.
TeinCave 3 years ago 13
cone trees indeed
luroh 3 years ago 6
fat wobblin' helicopter
IcarusFW 3 years ago 7
Why couldn't Under Defeat go all boss-hog like Zero Gunner 2?
paulhindt 3 years ago
Yup, it's Zero Gunner all over agin.
wartax5 3 years ago
air duel
EdOscuro 3 years ago 4
unicorn
twiddlev1 3 years ago 3