Cessna 170 Plane Crash Shady Acres Airstrip - Spanaway WA

[KiDFRANKKK]

Love how they just walk all over the plane? I mean its not totally ruined they can still fix the damn thing

[AirlinePilotZJ]

isn't this the runway where it inter sects with a road?

[VX2100DV]

@AirlinePilotZJ Yes.

[snuffy525]

poor salvage technique?? its buckled in the middle anyway, its totaled before they even hooked up to it, nothing could have been done to stop bending it. t this point it didn't make much difference how they up righted it.

[snuffy525]

Who asked if it was funny? even if someone was laughing.. what can you do??

[727freak]

it was bent in the middle due to poor salvage tecnique

[ophir37]

The Cessna 170 is very much a tail wheel 3 point landing aircraft. Its a good straight forward aircraft if you can fly tail wheel aircraft which are safer and easier to fly then a tri-gear. Better take-off performance and shorter landings. The 170 has to be flared in the round out. Doing a wheel on landing is not necessary in a 170 even in a cross wind. The only problem I have struck with a 170 is that with 3 position of flap out there can be a little bit of tailplane blanking.

[GuyECS]

What a shame. This aircraft survived many pilots...probably some that are now dead.

[carlosvaldes2007]

the FAA SHOULD MAKE A LAW THAT ALLOW ONLY FROM 2005 CESSNA TO FLY AND TAKE THOSE OLD'S CESSNAS PASS AWAY

[Jamesfromnyc]

Wow the "rescue" crew folded it in 1/2. What idiots!

[01sircharles]

WHAT ARE LONGERONS?

[511tac8044]

Just use a little rubbing compound. You'll buff that out in no time...

[marcioairplane]

4:49: Okey! Ready to fly again! Who's next?

[pudd750]

lol

[SandmanComes]

That pull should of been rigged diferently. Sad to see an old classic handled so indifferently.

[bage881]

When they tried to turn it over and the fuselage broke and bent...tears nearly came from my eyes, had me on edge in my seat LOL!

[mrfun07]

Wow Shady acres airport. I grew up out there. Slim and Gary Lawson who used to run spanaway airport lived at shady acres, as well as Ken and Barb Rosedahl, and Ken Sherwood. My mom was the secretary at Spanaway airport for many years until finally going to work for Earl Ruble at High life Helicopters, who eventually moved to Thun field. My Dad Flew a real nice T-210 out of Spanaway in the late 70's and maybe someone remebers him, Chuck Mclaughlin. He was a hell of a pilot. Slim Lawson taught him

[mcrowzz]

Late 70's? We Flew a 185 Amphib out of Shady Acres, still hangared at the south end, N4661C. I knew the same people, Flying was fun back then.

[mrfun07]

Wow... That is so wild!! The last time I flew out of Shady Acres, my Dad Borrowed Lee Hitchcocks, Blue on White Cessna 182, and flew to the Reno Air Races. Sept, and I'm thinking 1979?? Lee lived on the South end. You had to taxi across the street to get to the airstrip.Lol

[crazyryan]

everytime i go flying it cost me an average of 250 bucks!! with instructor lol.

[kazmaz79]

ohh no....Those are such beautiful aircraft! I have a friend with one all polished aluminum. Glad they made it out ok...

[EastExplorer]

Not too clever to flip it over by pulling the far end of the tail. On the other hand, it was pretty messed up anyway...

[dcf77]

Looks almost like new at the end...good enough to sell it on eBay as new... :D

[texNoz]

Most truthful thing I've heard on youtube!! XD

[Omid45]

it's looks like a Extra 300.

[Cadario]

La cuerda que jalo putio el avion mas de lo q estaba alfinal mas costos para la reparacion ... Imbesiles !

[crazyrcpilot]

It's not. It's a Cessna 170 with a 180hp Lycoming motor. johnmeyr knows where its at.

[ejlister]

Huh?!?!? How do you figure?

[crazyrcpilot]

I would like to say that I am one of the passengers in the plane. The cause of the accident was a severe tail wind that changed from a head wind during take off. As a result the lift of the wings was severely compromised and the plane flipping over was an unfortunate accident.

I am also the one driving the truck to flip it over, there was no better way given lack of equipment and the reason the tail snapped was because it was already bent from the impact of the tail on the runway.

[sergillo3x]

the guy that pulled that plane, fucked off the plane

[mjok2004]

How would you calculate that angle of attack lol.

[hasnbinseen]

Its a shame to see a classic like that wrecked. =(

[fayik123]

how badly was he hurt. flipping one of those small aircraft at 70mph could be very nasty imagine. THat tiny cramped little cockpit. There's barely room to breath in these little light aircrafts. I'd take a brandnew gulf stream jet anyday over a cessna 172. MY hope is that in the future flying is made more affordable to everybody just like the family car and in the future i think people will be flying across the atlantic in their own planes and not being so dependent on comercial craft

[VX2100DV]

Shock only.  No physical injuries.

[sampson4008]

@fayik123 i wonder if it ground looped. you have to be fast on rudder control with these tail draggers.

[CordiaRoger]

@fayik123 everyone would take a new gulf stream over a 172 you idiot

[axs12345]

@fayik123 dude imagine all the jobs that will be lost by doing that imagine all the fathal chrases lost in sea you need to think be for you comment like that and flipping one of those '' small aircrafts '' and that ''tiny cramped little cockpit theres barely room to breath thes little light aircrafts . do you have any knowleg in airplanes or aviation and ps do you see any cramped little cockpit on that airplane . ppl like you are destraoying aviation you sound like on of those faa guys

[screemy1]

the cause was from pilot failure of adding carb heat in serious icing conditions at cruising power... atleast that is what the NTSB web site says ???

[OnePilotsVideoLog]

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:

The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during an aborted takeoff from a short and narrow runway.

[Tubes12AX7k]

looks like it was a beautiful plane before it was flipped over. I like Cessna 170s. Unfortunately, it does look like it's a scrap heap...the stringers and longerons are probably destroyed, the crinkles in the wing are not very inspiring. Aside from the violent stopping of the engine, you can see that the crank shaft is bent. Aside from the electronics, they might be able to salvage the landing gear. Maybe the seats.

[bchokola]

yeah wheels look good too, they never touched the ground :-)

[homer090]

and we just bend it back like this....

and its good as new.

nah on a more serious point, they had a lucky escape, what caused it?

[rcheliboy]

Yeah. Its actually fine minus the prop, rudder, radio (antennas probably snapped).

[jesusrulesflight]

man thats 2 bad

ooh yea 100th comment i rules

sorry

but yea i feel bad for those guys and plane

what kind of cessna was it?

[VX2100DV]

170

[jesusrulesflight]

thanks

[Crashman2]

@VX2100DV You sure that's a 170? I see the nacelle bulges of a Jacobsen "Shaky Jake" radial engine up there- could be a C-195! The time period fits that too....

[spareparts8]

coulda been alot worse..

[donlightbody]

that just breaks this pilot's heart

[aviator06]

Hope he had insurance!

[drummerdude6485]

Yeah,

Such a nice airplane, isn't it? Poor guy and plane. Who did it happen anyway?

[bushpilot223]

This video makes me cry, that poor vintage Cessna... I'm not even joking. I feel so sorry for the owner and the plane.

[2HEXJUMPER]

this whatever you call it thingie is ready for the scrap heap !

a broken back,engine killed,wings torned...

[hemna]

idiots

[roofy2k]

Pretty ugly way to flip it over during recovery but it's not because they didn't know what they were doing it was because bent aluminum is the least of this birds worries.

[jwjcook11]

I wonder how much the guy wants for it? Looks like a good winter project!

[bushpilot172]

The aluminum under the wing was wrinkled, as well as the fuselage was already bent before turing it upright. I wouldn't fly this plane even if you bought it and restored as a project, i think it is best to salvage the avionics and recycle the rest at a scrap yard. The plane is bent and will never fly right again.

[steviebboy69]

its true what other people say they trashed that plane.

Im not a pilot or anything at all, but surely there had to be a better way of righting the thing back on its so called feet.

[HenkHout]

are you kidding me, perfect case of none aviators trying to help, and making the matter worse. what where they thinking?!?!?!

[YakAV8R]

I agree with UAL, you're not done flying a taildragger till it's parked & tied down! Those idiots helping out trashed the fuse totally. No reason for that shit. I would've got a backhoe & lift straps to move it clear of the runway. Might have been an insurance rebuilder before those hammer-heads got involved. So many idiots playing I got an idea..it's scary!

[mark6121]

i agree yakav8r, a truck and a rope is stupid. now they screwed up the entire airplane. i loved how they just bent it back into shape. idiots

[yazzam]

Im sorry but that pilot doesnt deserve to have his license if hes so careless

[UAL4ever]

All pilots make mistakes even the best of the best make mistakes and this pilot just made a mistake i don`t blame him either he just probably pressed on the brake pedals too quickly and in result flipping the aircraft. I even made a mistake when i was on engine run up ( aviation experts should know what i am talking about ) and i powered up the engine to 1,000 RPM`s and forgot to press on the brake pedals but my instructor told me in time before i rolled into a ditch at KUGN

[angryskipper]

Ah what are you guys complaining about? That fat guy bent it all back into shape, the rest will buff out... what do think? Time to kick tha tires & lite tha fires!

[toddevans1]

Amazing how fast they were able to fix that! Good to GO!!

[engeladam409]

Poor plane..

[ZzDe0]

Looks like the recovery did just as much damage as the crash. Damn firefighters all ways think they know what there doing and i bet they didn't even tern the ELT off ether! Thats like 5 hours of driving around looking for a signal.

[jrmprs]

I'm not sure about that - look at the kink in the fuselage -- that bird broke its back in the crash.. And there are very limited options to attempting to set it upright -- you surely can't *roll* it over onto its gear ...

[gigidygigidygoo2]

Your a retard for sympathising with these retards.

[littleprag91]

y r they retards or idiots????? obviously they made a mistake. ppl are real jerks sometimes and i swear if ppl giv me a negitive ill be pissed cuz you shouldnt be calling ppl retards cuz they flip a plane

[mbrindley9655]

I've seen a 172 fliped upright like this before, never a good idea.

[FLABandit]

Thats what happens when you let untrained amatures perform recovery operations. Rookies. I hope they charged them for the additional damage to the aircraft.

[bodybager]

A wreck resulting in injuries must be reported to FAA/NTSB and responders must NOT DISTURB ANY PART OF THE WRECKAGE after patients have been removed and hazmat cleared. The wreck should be secured and only allow FAA or NTSB access until THEY clear the wreck. Even 13 year old Civil Air Patrol cadets know this. This was not a flipped over pickup truck on the highway - different rules apply.

[XH558B2]

Liquid nails an some sticky tape will sort that out no probs..soon hammer that prop straight. lmfao

[SNAKEBITE197]

Day of the trifids lol!

[heartyfeast]

A little duct tape around the middle and all will be well!

[88SPIKE]

Typical Yanks....all the gear but no idea

Bunch of amateurs

[pilotcfi]

The flip probably didn't finish the airplane, but the recovery effort probably did. What a bunch of idiots. They couldn't have picked a worse way to reflip the airplane upright.

[Maverickx89]

the crash overload have stressed the plane so much, that it would be too unsafe to fly with this fuselage again. they just gave him the rest, but I wouldn't fly this thing again anyway ;)

[Adveniotu]

Agreed, there would have to be major repairs to the fuselage and wings. I would guess there has to be some spar damage, look at the strut?

[skipjackbj]

The pilot set trim for take off. Accelerated then aborted the take off. Reduced power and applied brakes. Pilot then lost control and plane nosed over.

Early Cessna tail draggers have this prob. The Cessna 140's CG was changed for pilot training by extenders attached to the wheel base to help move the CG forward a little. Thus heavy application of brakes and tendancy to flip forward was reduced.

[Adveniotu]

Ahhhhh ok. I was looking through trade-a-plane and saw a bunch of 140's with the wheel extenders. Not a bad idea, although heavy braking in any taildragger is quite possibly a bad idea

[vikingwind25]

The 170 is a great plane and this was great loss of aviation history. I hope all involved are OK. As for all the other comments in this thread...emotional BS for the most part. Get on with life and don't worry.

Yes, a flyer...so shoot me...

[jenkinallis]

why did they do that at the end :S Shurley they knew it wouldent take that...

[the1bigace]

from all these cessna crash videos Ive seen I can see that there are some great safety features!

[aglandcattleman]

pilot error.

[the1bigace]

well I mean since a lot of thevideos show the pilots rollng out the door minorly injured instead of dead. But yes, there is pilot error involved in most of these crashes.

[durnin84]

its a tail dragger numb nuts

[janu80]

Look like nose landing...

[VX2100DV]

This was a takeoff attempt.

[jblackme]

never mind I don't know what I'm talking about HA HA but it did look like a nose landing.

[NikitasGuitars]

lol

[jblackme]

I could be wrong and correct me if I am. Did you notice on the prop that the tips were bent and how the plane was flipped. Looks like a landing where the front wheel hit first and well we know the outcome. People will probably reply with sarcasm but hey if you don't have anything better to do.... be as sarcastic as you like you ain't hurtin my feeling HA HA.

[Turko35]

I'm glad everyone survived. Too bad about the plane.

[jakablus]

no me gusto cuando lo alaron de esa forma.estupidos. no tenian otra forma? sin que se rompiera.

[Ulai777]

What a mess, too bad.......glad nobody was injured though!

[lowflyingcessna]

Glad everybody was OK. How depressing to see the plane's back get broken. I almost thought the plane was fixable until it was uprighted. Sad

[Soupdragon1964]

Lucky pilot, I hope he's in better health than the aeroplane. I agree that the recovery people were amateurish, but I suspect the 170 was written off before they got involved. Both the fuselage and the wing are creased and the crankcases would have been shocked. Keep the avionics and scrap the rest.

[0ldjunk]

Scottydog2 and senoirspoogeface should get married. A love made in gay military heaven.

[david07003]

By the way, I thought that this was a very good video that documented the crash. It was a very good learning experience.

[david07003]

The 170 is a great plane. As for salvage, you can see that the wings are bent very bad and so is the fuselage. The plane maybe totaled. The tail should have crumpled like that if was not broken from the crash. Its not fair to say that the team that righted the aircraft somehow damaged it or that someone else would have done better--that aircraft is damaged very badly and a crane may have put additional stresses in areas of the plane that may make it break apart.

[ScottyDog2]

I hope the insurance company sued the recovery crew so that they never are able to destroy another aircraft like they did with this one.

What kind of moron thinks that you just hook up a rope to the tail and try to muscle it over.

Anyone with a little common sense would have known better. A cradle or crane should have been dispatched.

[penguinchub]

I would just like to say, being a tow and recovery driver, im going to have to agree< no thought was put into that one.

[fmichaelb]

Really bad salvage crew. Anybody with a minimum of knowledge and an ounce of skill probably could have set it back upright with no additional damage.

[aerograf1]

Boy, I'll say so! Everything that could have been salvaged was destroyed by those idiots!

[Rav747]

glad to see the guy was not seriously hurt.

[DevilCry417]

My bad I got this confused with the 182, yea the 170 is a tail dragger. Sorry about that.

[DevilCry417]

A Cessna 170 is not a tail dragger...a tail dragger is an aircraft that sits on forward main gear with its tail wheel on the ground such a the Piper Cub or DC-10.

[andyshangar]

What?

The good news: you got the Cub part correct :-]

BTW, if the lawyers are watching: the salvage added $10-15K to damage, I'm guessing.

[kimiles1]

I don't know if I've seen many DC10 taildraggers.

DC3 or DC6 maybe... ;)

[CajunVidMan]

you know what they say about taildraggers. You dont stop flying them until you tie them down.

[SenorSpode]

How sad!!! It brings back memories of a plane crash I witnessed in Arlington, WA, 4/88: The Cessna Bird Dog on floats, N10442, had just been buttoned up after a rebuild. It struck me as funny that they didn't drain the tanks before takeoff. They lined the cart up, plane took off, it quit 100 feet in the air, set down on the step and slid well, but the front jury struts broke and over she went. New engine, new everyting...a total loss. We hauled it back on the cart, heads down.

[greglacle]

user: scrapinacan is a complete Dumbass. Probably someone that did not pay attention in school or does read books.

Mister....knowledge is power, but imagination is better than knowledge.

The point; stfu before you give your stupid remarks,and as you can notice here, educated people on the subject matter flamed you, and they will continue to do so...Please drive Through.

[JosiahM1970]

just think if you were the person who bought that aircraft after it was repaired...and to find this video

[w5cdt]

The pilot stated that he set the trim for takeoff, proceeded onto runway 34, added full engine power, and the airplane accelerated normally. When the airplane was about 1/3 of the way down the runway at the location where he expected to lift off the ground, the airplane was still on the runway. Therefore, he aborted the takeof and lost directional control of the airplane.

[w5cdt]

Was it a ground loop? After all this kind of thing

does happen in taildraggers.

[VX2100DV]

That has yet to be answered. Nothing yet from the FAA on the cause.

[gadget666]

did he brake too hard or something?

[piperpainter]

When did this happen?

[VX2100DV]

7/7/07

[Will777ABQ]

That hurt to watch!

[Nextmanmusic]

OH HELL NAW!!!! I might not be in the rescue and recovery business but That can't be the right way to turn a flipped airplane upright again. That was horrible to see them do that to that 170.

[N70er]

Way to Fing go... Here's what happens when dumb ass govt officals recover airplanes... They dont know, they dont care,, they just asume it's wrecked,,, so screw it... "Let's dystroy it some more" Assholes...

[mattf49006]

Laughs...duh...it already wrecked, the stringers,wing struts,vertical stabilizer and fuselage were already broken...not much else they could do

[SenorSpode]

You're right: I assisted in recoveries in high school. If you can do it gently, why not? You can at least save some of the engine, although it's assumed the crank's tweaked. The rest of the airframe is buckled, is it not obvious to some of these idiots? There's very little to salvage, save for interior and landing gear (MAYBE). Just remove the gear, expose/undo the wing attach bolts, undo the cables and wires, saw the struts, load it on a flatbed trailer and haul it off to glory.

[kimiles1]

cantilevering the airplane over on it's spinner probably ain't the best way to save the engine, i'd have to say...

[155061769]

I'm interested to know if the NTSB gave the OK to move the accident aircraft. Are the people alright? If I'm the owner of that airplane, I would want the name and number and insurance of the genius who crumpled the airframe trying to flip it that way.

[VX2100DV]

They did give permission to move it and requested a copy of the video. Everyone who was onboard is fine.

[asrlb45]

What a clean belly!

[7089540230]

GREAT EARLY FOOTAGE

[AuntBee09]

looks like a hard crash. interesting how they flipped it over. great post!

[scrapinacan]

Oldjunk has it all the way. Let's drop these self serving clowns and start the user fees. Look at the cost of rescuing these idiots and having the expenses passed on to the taxpayers, let alone the handout of the airport. A total waste for the working class.

[finsjb]

How do you think the guys that fly your spoiled ass around in the airlines got their experience? Keep your mouth shut when you don't have a clue as to what is going on. Idiot.

[ecarfar]

Yeah, remember that the next time you're sitting in the back of a 757 and the pilot up front only has a couple of hundred hours due to the fact it's too expensive to train more....there a very good reason we have the best aviation system in the world....it's affordable and the average person can get into it. Me, I think they should impose user fees on people who type comments and e-mails. The gov't could make a fortune on that.

[scrapinacan]

Well, if this is the best that a private education can offer, the trains don't look so bad. The last time I was in the back of a 737, I was downright scared by the lack of experience of the PIC, but then again, I'm a spoiled asshole

[SenorSpode]

You couldn't've said it any better, "SpuckInYourHead"...you indeed are spoiled. Now go flush yourself.

[JosiahM1970]

are you kidding me, a few hundred hours...where are you getting your info?

[frlobo]

Just on a comment.... His insurance has to pay for the expenses, and the owner or insurance has to pay for the aircraft... In what part of that picture did your taxes got affected?.. Why don't you take a look at iraq and see how many millions are poured on a single misile... This was an average citizen that also paid taxes, and also had to pay his mistakes from his pocket and insurance.

Its more expensive to crash your car and get the firefighters to rescue you than this poor pilot.

[scrapinacan]

The airport, the preflight briefing, the regulation, the investigation is funded by taxpayers. How many of these taxpayers actually give a flying hoot about a small bunch amusing themselves at our expense? As far as insurance is concerned, WE all pay for his right to be able to smear it at the expense of the rest of us.Oh sure, everybody I know has at least one plane, who doesn't?? If you think these are important things that are necessary to the quality of life, you are clearly misguided.

[frlobo]

So why do you own a car when we pay for your right to drive? The police, the highway maintainance, etc.. We all pay for that. Don't be stupid in considering that airports don't generate their own revenue.. Just for your information, airports usually get founded from fuel they sell, and if they don't sell enough they get founded by taxes paid thru fuel.

Please read about it first in the right source and then comment.

[jarchu]

You don't what The F%^$% your talking about A HOLE!! I own a plane and its damm well safer then driving to the airport... But as much as we are all careful accidents do happen. Just like the blood that has to cleaned up becasue someone had to much to drink and went driving and killed little 4 yearold girl.. Its life man

[0ldjunk]

Way cool. I have always wanted to do something JUST like this to the little 170B whore that I own. One less of these is a happier world. Good riddance

[ScottyDog2]

Yeah right. Dream on moron. You wish you owned a 170.The 170 is a great little airplane that most people that fly would love to own.

Scrapinacan

Did you know that private aviation produces far more jobs for the so called working class than it costs the Government to keep small airports open.

It is naive, ignorant, assholes like you that have hurt Private Aviation over the years and destroyed thousands of jobs in the industry.

[BeechSundowner]

Be interesting what the NTSB findings are, No tail dragger experience here, but tail dragger, three people in the plane, almost sounds like forward CG. Tail comes up, noses over from two people heavy in the front. Or maybe tail come up, hits something on the takeoff roll, plane noses over.

[bigsub27284]

I own one of these planes. You won't be ahead of the forward CG with a passenger in the back. Just not possible. In fact, takes longer to get the tail off the ground.

[mrdavidjames]

What caused that?? wasnt really windy yeasterday or anything. Obvious pilot error of some kind?? or since it is a 1951...malfunction is very possible.

[VX2100DV]

At this time I don't know what the cause is. I have learned that it was a nose down flip and not a back flip.

[mrdavidjames]

And taht was on take-off correct???  strange.

[VX2100DV]

Yes.  And it is strange.

[spipernc]

The age of this plane really does not increase the probability of malfunction. These aircraft must go through an extensive inspection by an FAA approved inspector every year.

This plane also had an engine upgrade, increasing from 145 hp to 180 hp. One theory is that this relatively new owner could have pushed a bit to hard on the yoke to get the tail up and actually nosed it over. 170s don't require much forward yoke movement to get the tail up - if any at all...

[BIGTYFAN]

The Continental C-145 made this aircraft a dog. Slowest climbing airplane I've ever fown in. I never got to ride in a 180, I'll bet it made a huge difference.

[johnmeyr]

The Continental 145hp is original engine but if you notice this plane only has one exaust port (C-145 has two) which leads me to think this one was converted to 180hp Lycoming.

[crazyrcpilot]

You're exactly on. The plane was outfitted with a 180 Lycoming when it was first bought.