This movie is an example of the decadence of the west. Not that the murders and the tortures themselves took place, but that such an exercise in sadism in the name of "art" and "free expression"can be funded, allowed to be produced and distributed in supposed civilized countries.
This is quite 'real' movie, partly based on people's lifes, if you know what I mean. I thought it would be fake and totaly distaster, but it wasn't. It's funny movie with love and action. You can walk away from many others movies, but you won't from this one, there is no doubt. See it on 'daving info'!!!
I went to Yatla to visit someone & saw that Bunting dude in there; freaky shit being so close to someone like that. Must be the gear down here in Adelaide, turns everyone into savages haha
I can't imagine John Bunting to be like some warm sort of guy who just crazily peruses an opinion about homosexuals and pedophiles with a seriousness. I would imagine him to be a hyper active person with more of a sense of enjoyment and humour in his killings as if these people really where just a joke. More realistically he probably would of been like that, the people around him would be quite dull minded and he would be like a flare to them in their lives with his humour and spontaneity.
@Dolphidood *these murdered people where really just a joke to him* therefore he wouldn't be so serious when he is killing them as if its some sort of discipline to him its more like a bit of a laugh with his mates. Its also not realistic that he just wound up with a bunch of people that look up to him so much that they would help him murder... he would have had to have made himself so significant in his character with a lot of charisma that these people depend on him thus a bit of a joker.
I am fromholland and I´m looking for the torrent to download this film. I don´t think it will be in theaters in europe. Could anyone tell me if there is a download available?
As the below poster mentioned, the episode of Crime Investigators Australia that feautured the Snowtown Murders was the stuff of Nightmares. The actor who played Bunting in the re-enactments was downright scary! Kind of like a Psychotic Jack Black.
@prongeryeates Not really. I live in south east Queensland and there are a few bogans here and there but other then that it's cool. The actual guy who killed and tortured these people was raised in Inala. I live about 10 mins from inala... haha
@MrBrisbaneman1994 I grew up in Inala (at around the same time as John Bunting) and now live in the area of Adelaide where these murders took place...(only a few streets away from where one of the last took place actually)...neither of them are really great places to live.
@dochenry Ivé never been to Adelaide before, anything like the Brisbane area? and Yeah you would want to lock your doors around Inala if you know what I'm saying
i lived in snowtown for 19 years born there. Now all the murders happen i get called a barrels of fun pricks they are i hate it....... I MEAN THIS IS NOT GOOD !!
I went to film school with the director and his short films there were amazing and this being his first feature I expect Snowtown will be a work of art
so so so excited to see this!! the majority of the filming was Done in Davoren Park where i live (they door knocked the area looking for old style houses to use, they actually asked my dad to use his but he said no cause it meant moving out for a bit lol lazy man) My friends and i stalked the set, the amount of times we drove past was ridiculous lol can not wait to see it, i hope it shows the honest poverty of davoren park, maybe people will sit up and take notice and clean up this shit hole!
I'm 15 and I got given the book for Christmas 3 years ago, (I'm a true crime reader, always have been always will be) and yeah I've read it numerous times. My book has got Jame's Vlassakis' face blurred out :( I've heard when the book was first published it wasn't allowed to be sold in South Australia for some unknown reason, mine had to get ordered interstate and I've only just seen it on shelves now.
I really really hope this film is good. I read the snowtown book several years ago and you only get one chance to get it right. The characters look a little too clean to me. I hope they have kept a lot of the language ...'barry's been made good' , 'He's a dirty' and haven't toned down the severity and shocking nature of some of the torture techniques they employed. The scope here to present a real, true and disturbing side of Australian culture is incredible.
@knomadix Yep its certainly an ambitious project. A film like this could be critiqued for either being too sanitised or slammed for being full of gratuitous violence. Quite interested in how this subject matter is handled cinematically.
@knomadix Australian culture? What part of Australian culture involves torturing and killing? If you said
"a disturbing side of man" then fair enough. These are sick people and don't represent anything Australian at all. I don't know if a movie should have been made. I've seen the documentary and it told you everything you need to know and was very disturbing. My fear is that a movie will popularise these atrocities.
@danbadd If you've spent time living in small country towns in Australia then you'll be all too aware of a dark 'side of australian culture'. Whether it persists today I'm not sure, but growing up in remote towns in Western Australia during the 80's I saw enough of an undercurrent.
@japan2themax he does look like Vlassakis, so does wagner & bunting there are photos of Vlassakis available on the net. there were over 250 supression orders made about this case, Im suprised the movie was made.
@keyanage Have you read the books? Just finished 'Killing for Pleasure', which made numerous remarks about how bloody short Bunting is,however the author never said how tall the nasty little piece of work actually is. I'm guessing he's 5'3" with Wagner at about 6'1"...chilling stuff.
@japan2themax yeah I have read.. Snowtown: The Bodies In Barrels Murders: The Grisly Story of Australia's Worst Serial Killings by Jeremy Pudney I read it in a day, I gave it to my sister she read it within the week too. It was a very good unbiased account. I remember watching it all unfold on the news when I was 15, it freaked me out. It had a picture of James Vlassakis in the book and there is a picture circulating on the net, he looks much like the main character.
@keyanage I've also read Pudney's book, very good; its pure objectivity left me feeling gutted (Vlassakis' face is fudged out in my copy).
Killing for Pleasure reads more like a novel in parts, has some extra bits - a pic of Bunting with his arm around his blow up doll (??) and the end, the author mercifully debriefs with the reader in attempt to make sense of such a horrific journey. As you said, there's nothing to stop history from repeating - even after the millions spent on retribution
@japan2themax yeah true Pudney's book read much like a really long news report, very factual rather than emotionally involving especially with the victims, I will try to read killing for pleasure , if you recommend it and I can get my hands on a copy.. The case touches very close to home if you have grown up on the outskirts of Australian suburbia.. Adelaide's recent house of horrors case seems to mirror snowtown.. except this time the victims were children being abused for centrelink fraud
@keyanage Yeah so close to home! Another reason this story freaks me out. As you would've seen in Pudney's book, one of the Bunting's calls traced by the cops was to my hometown of Moonta. I now live in Port Augusta, so I may already be driving past Mark Haydon's cell (he's to be moved from Yatala to here). Hey, I saw on the news tonight that the suppression order on Vlassakis' ID has been lifted. They discussed how it related to the Jamie lookalike in the film. We were just talking about this!
@japan2themax that is weird, lol I wish I saw that news report, they stole our conversation for news :D I told you he looked like the character in the movie :D Jamie Vlassakis reminds me of Patty Hearst, Im sure while not captive he did genuinely fear for his life. The whole thing reminds me of some bad horror sci-fi movie with all the classic cliches. It almost seemed like government sponsored murder. Makes me wonder how many missing persons in Australia are actually missing :(
@keyanage Argh! Sorry, I stuffed up with the news story - it was the suppression order that prohibited the use of Mark Haydon's image for film that was lifted for this movie. The news story I watched kept showing the actor playing Vlassakis so i thought they screwed up the story. So many suppressions! - even the colour of the barrels was kept secret.
@japan2themax the main thing that freaked me out most other than the macabre nature of the crimes, the amount of people involved, the way it was covered up and censored by the Australian government. The way people in Australia dont even know of the crimes by Australia's worst serial killer today (of coarse until a movie about it is made).. I am worried something similar will happen in Australia or is happening in Australia... You dont need guns to inflict pure evil on others.
I can tell this is a low budget movie... Always a good match for a blockbuster hit.
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This movie is an example of the decadence of the west. Not that the murders and the tortures themselves took place, but that such an exercise in sadism in the name of "art" and "free expression"can be funded, allowed to be produced and distributed in supposed civilized countries.
theantisauronist 2 months ago
just watched it. bloody brilliant.
bugabugaman 3 months ago
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This is quite 'real' movie, partly based on people's lifes, if you know what I mean. I thought it would be fake and totaly distaster, but it wasn't. It's funny movie with love and action. You can walk away from many others movies, but you won't from this one, there is no doubt. See it on 'daving info'!!!
aratiranjit 3 months ago
Lol I don't live far from there, it's still pretty creepy.
Enjoythecarrotcake 4 months ago
Some of those that were killed were pedo rapist scumbags and no loss to the world.
PAXRAHOWA 9 months ago
I went to Yatla to visit someone & saw that Bunting dude in there; freaky shit being so close to someone like that. Must be the gear down here in Adelaide, turns everyone into savages haha
physco1logical 9 months ago
@physco1logical lol, bullshit.
1CaptainAustralia1 8 months ago
I can't imagine John Bunting to be like some warm sort of guy who just crazily peruses an opinion about homosexuals and pedophiles with a seriousness. I would imagine him to be a hyper active person with more of a sense of enjoyment and humour in his killings as if these people really where just a joke. More realistically he probably would of been like that, the people around him would be quite dull minded and he would be like a flare to them in their lives with his humour and spontaneity.
Dolphidood 9 months ago
@Dolphidood *these murdered people where really just a joke to him* therefore he wouldn't be so serious when he is killing them as if its some sort of discipline to him its more like a bit of a laugh with his mates. Its also not realistic that he just wound up with a bunch of people that look up to him so much that they would help him murder... he would have had to have made himself so significant in his character with a lot of charisma that these people depend on him thus a bit of a joker.
Dolphidood 9 months ago
I am fromholland and I´m looking for the torrent to download this film. I don´t think it will be in theaters in europe. Could anyone tell me if there is a download available?
Thakns!
shailoonoah 9 months ago
@shailoonoah It's still playing in the Cinema, there's no DVD or Blu Ray release yet. It's not far off though.
1CaptainAustralia1 8 months ago
As the below poster mentioned, the episode of Crime Investigators Australia that feautured the Snowtown Murders was the stuff of Nightmares. The actor who played Bunting in the re-enactments was downright scary! Kind of like a Psychotic Jack Black.
Tarrant1976 9 months ago
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seeing this - do want
bbourke85 9 months ago
Small town Australia is full of creeps and hicks lets be honest!
prongeryeates 9 months ago
@prongeryeates Well, to be honest that's pretty much the opposite of my whole life experience.
ScottyCollinson 9 months ago
@prongeryeates Have you lived in Small Town Australia? Been to this town? Pretty nice place.
LimeGuy101 9 months ago
@prongeryeates Not really. I live in south east Queensland and there are a few bogans here and there but other then that it's cool. The actual guy who killed and tortured these people was raised in Inala. I live about 10 mins from inala... haha
MrBrisbaneman1994 9 months ago
@MrBrisbaneman1994 I grew up in Inala (at around the same time as John Bunting) and now live in the area of Adelaide where these murders took place...(only a few streets away from where one of the last took place actually)...neither of them are really great places to live.
dochenry 9 months ago
@dochenry Ivé never been to Adelaide before, anything like the Brisbane area? and Yeah you would want to lock your doors around Inala if you know what I'm saying
MrBrisbaneman1994 9 months ago
i lived in snowtown for 19 years born there. Now all the murders happen i get called a barrels of fun pricks they are i hate it....... I MEAN THIS IS NOT GOOD !!
grimreaperws 10 months ago
i had nightmares after i had seen this story on crime investigation australia.
and its sad how that message at the start where he is saying that he is in queensland is the message they made him make before they killed him
tommygun641 10 months ago
i had nightmares after i had seen this story on crime investigation australia.
theres nothing more sickening than people who kill because they think that its right
tommygun641 10 months ago
thankkkk you! so keen to see this
FutureDoesntNeedU 10 months ago
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I went to film school with the director and his short films there were amazing and this being his first feature I expect Snowtown will be a work of art
teaguemoore 1 year ago
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teaguemoore 1 year ago
Yeahhhh thats my boyfriend :)
Sofiag410 1 year ago
so so so excited to see this!! the majority of the filming was Done in Davoren Park where i live (they door knocked the area looking for old style houses to use, they actually asked my dad to use his but he said no cause it meant moving out for a bit lol lazy man) My friends and i stalked the set, the amount of times we drove past was ridiculous lol can not wait to see it, i hope it shows the honest poverty of davoren park, maybe people will sit up and take notice and clean up this shit hole!
missmegzeful 1 year ago
I'm 15 and I got given the book for Christmas 3 years ago, (I'm a true crime reader, always have been always will be) and yeah I've read it numerous times. My book has got Jame's Vlassakis' face blurred out :( I've heard when the book was first published it wasn't allowed to be sold in South Australia for some unknown reason, mine had to get ordered interstate and I've only just seen it on shelves now.
pickles565 1 year ago
Can't wait for this to come out! It's going to be a horror ride, but I've heard fantastic things about these unknown talents that drive this movie
LadyLoFi1 1 year ago
I really really hope this film is good. I read the snowtown book several years ago and you only get one chance to get it right. The characters look a little too clean to me. I hope they have kept a lot of the language ...'barry's been made good' , 'He's a dirty' and haven't toned down the severity and shocking nature of some of the torture techniques they employed. The scope here to present a real, true and disturbing side of Australian culture is incredible.
knomadix 1 year ago
@knomadix Yep its certainly an ambitious project. A film like this could be critiqued for either being too sanitised or slammed for being full of gratuitous violence. Quite interested in how this subject matter is handled cinematically.
japan2themax 1 year ago
@knomadix Australian culture? What part of Australian culture involves torturing and killing? If you said
"a disturbing side of man" then fair enough. These are sick people and don't represent anything Australian at all. I don't know if a movie should have been made. I've seen the documentary and it told you everything you need to know and was very disturbing. My fear is that a movie will popularise these atrocities.
danbadd 11 months ago
@danbadd If you've spent time living in small country towns in Australia then you'll be all too aware of a dark 'side of australian culture'. Whether it persists today I'm not sure, but growing up in remote towns in Western Australia during the 80's I saw enough of an undercurrent.
knomadix 11 months ago
@knomadix Show me a country on the planet that doesn't have small-town weirdos. It's not an Australian thing.
danbadd 11 months ago
Im glad they did it from Jamie Vlassakis's eyes, he was a victim in the end, I kind of felt sorry for him
keyanage 1 year ago
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japan2themax 1 year ago
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@keyanage I wonder if the actor looks like Vlassakis, given the supression laws over his identity.
japan2themax 1 year ago
@japan2themax he does look like Vlassakis, so does wagner & bunting there are photos of Vlassakis available on the net. there were over 250 supression orders made about this case, Im suprised the movie was made.
keyanage 1 year ago
@keyanage Have you read the books? Just finished 'Killing for Pleasure', which made numerous remarks about how bloody short Bunting is,however the author never said how tall the nasty little piece of work actually is. I'm guessing he's 5'3" with Wagner at about 6'1"...chilling stuff.
japan2themax 1 year ago
@japan2themax yeah I have read.. Snowtown: The Bodies In Barrels Murders: The Grisly Story of Australia's Worst Serial Killings by Jeremy Pudney I read it in a day, I gave it to my sister she read it within the week too. It was a very good unbiased account. I remember watching it all unfold on the news when I was 15, it freaked me out. It had a picture of James Vlassakis in the book and there is a picture circulating on the net, he looks much like the main character.
keyanage 1 year ago
@keyanage I've also read Pudney's book, very good; its pure objectivity left me feeling gutted (Vlassakis' face is fudged out in my copy).
Killing for Pleasure reads more like a novel in parts, has some extra bits - a pic of Bunting with his arm around his blow up doll (??) and the end, the author mercifully debriefs with the reader in attempt to make sense of such a horrific journey. As you said, there's nothing to stop history from repeating - even after the millions spent on retribution
japan2themax 1 year ago
@japan2themax yeah true Pudney's book read much like a really long news report, very factual rather than emotionally involving especially with the victims, I will try to read killing for pleasure , if you recommend it and I can get my hands on a copy.. The case touches very close to home if you have grown up on the outskirts of Australian suburbia.. Adelaide's recent house of horrors case seems to mirror snowtown.. except this time the victims were children being abused for centrelink fraud
keyanage 1 year ago
@keyanage Yeah so close to home! Another reason this story freaks me out. As you would've seen in Pudney's book, one of the Bunting's calls traced by the cops was to my hometown of Moonta. I now live in Port Augusta, so I may already be driving past Mark Haydon's cell (he's to be moved from Yatala to here). Hey, I saw on the news tonight that the suppression order on Vlassakis' ID has been lifted. They discussed how it related to the Jamie lookalike in the film. We were just talking about this!
japan2themax 1 year ago
@japan2themax that is weird, lol I wish I saw that news report, they stole our conversation for news :D I told you he looked like the character in the movie :D Jamie Vlassakis reminds me of Patty Hearst, Im sure while not captive he did genuinely fear for his life. The whole thing reminds me of some bad horror sci-fi movie with all the classic cliches. It almost seemed like government sponsored murder. Makes me wonder how many missing persons in Australia are actually missing :(
keyanage 1 year ago
@keyanage Argh! Sorry, I stuffed up with the news story - it was the suppression order that prohibited the use of Mark Haydon's image for film that was lifted for this movie. The news story I watched kept showing the actor playing Vlassakis so i thought they screwed up the story. So many suppressions! - even the colour of the barrels was kept secret.
japan2themax 1 year ago
@japan2themax the main thing that freaked me out most other than the macabre nature of the crimes, the amount of people involved, the way it was covered up and censored by the Australian government. The way people in Australia dont even know of the crimes by Australia's worst serial killer today (of coarse until a movie about it is made).. I am worried something similar will happen in Australia or is happening in Australia... You dont need guns to inflict pure evil on others.
keyanage 1 year ago
@keyanage -Having lived only 2 streets away at the time of the slaughtering,
and having seen Mark Haydens wife in the paper I said,OH Shit I haven't seen her in a while!
After the trial had finished and their Images were released,
I knew we all shared the small grocery store at the end of my street,
OZ doesn't cover up serial killers we make TV stories.
It is Law in Australia,that no Information is released until after sentencing,
Images/locations and court may take years :)
kristen38100 1 year ago
Hmmm...good likenesses of Bunting and Wagner
japan2themax 1 year ago
Great little teaser! Love the creepy music too
piranhahead 1 year ago