Igualmente, miro y miro este vídeo y veo que son dos personas de casi la misma altura; Joe Lewis mide 1,84 mts. o sea que tendría que ser más alto que Mullins; si uno mira la pelea entre Norris y Mullins son dos personas de la misma altura, cuándo Norris era poco más alto que Lee (este medía 1,69 mts.; Norris 1,74)... la pregunta que queda en el aire:¿EL QUE PELEA NO ES BRUCE LEE?
Aunque Joe Lewis ha dicho que no fue tan así (que Lee le enseño a él); al parecer (si bien el reconocía que Bruce Lee era rápido y con un gran poder analítico), muchas cosas le enseñó él a Lee, por ejemplo: sustituir la patada corta y poco efectiva del Wing Chun por la de Muay Thai y el uso de los golpes de puño del Kung Fu por el de Boxeo. Aparte dijo que Bruce como luchador "era del montón", por eso nunca compitió ni combatió en serio.
Bruce was good but he was not the best. He was more of a training who could fight. For some reason the movies takes a away from reality. Everyone thought Seagal was a master, but he was a scared chicken. Van Dame entered some tournaments. One day we will have a real fighter with acting skills, someday.
Sheez. I truly don't know why anybody who knows the least bit of American martial arts history regarding competition -- especially in the 1960s -- could believe that the man in black is Bruce Lee, not Joe Lewis. The guy in black is clearly MUCH bigger than Lee ever was. Compare the videos of Lee at the Internationals. Also: Lee fought right foot forward, unlike the dude in black; Lee never competed in American karate tournaments; Lee never wore a karate gi, black or otherwise --
@rolotomosy82 Since I said nothing about "open and closed stance," please explain the point you're trying to make. The right-dominant Lee certainly preferred to fight with his strongest weapons nearest to his opponent. Check out the four volumes of "Bruce Lee's Fighting Method," for example. But while we're on the subject, the basic boxing stance is fairly open, no? So can you name a few successful boxers who used a closed stance? Best always, Steve
@stevevandien Si uno observa el vídeo, parecen dos personas de la misma altura; Lewis tendría que ser más alto que Mullins. Para mí también el que lucha de espaldas es Bruce Lee
@Ezol1 Bruce Lee NEVER competed in any American karate tournament. EVERY ONE of his biographers will confirm this. Also, Skipper Mullins (white gi) fought right-side forward against Joe Lewis (left-side forward) in this competition. So why do you say "It's probably Bruce Lee were [sic] talking about?"
none may speak without documentation gentleman, for anyone can mimic the role of a legend, but a legend is thus because their abilities are so grand they seem to strain credulity. but who knows if it is bruce well, damn that side kick sure screams quite a statement
UFCNUTTA: I agree. Bruce' training of both Joe and Chuck Norris are little known facts...even though this is well documented. Both...[espesialy Chuck]...should give credit to the man who made thm what they are!
As a first hand witness...this is Joe. In a world that demanded 'focus' and restraint, Joe was an arrogant dick who rarely pulled his punches and kicks to induce fear and hesitation. He was proud of his no restraint attacks and enjoyed his ability to drop' people with his side kick! Although Bruce was an arrogant person, and would break the nose of a cocky student, he would never intentionally hurt an opponent in the ring...because he never fought in the limited tournament surroundings!
Is amazing that many still see Lewis and not Lee, in front Mullings. The most striking points is that Lewis "and its funs should know this well", he used her left leg to kick side, not right!. Lee instead held the strongest part of the body (as in fencing) in front, as can be seen in all her movies, video footage and read in his books. In this video the image is reversed, the original is the other (0:38)!.
I think you want to believe that this is Bruce so bad that you see what you want to see, first off there is no record of Bruce ever engaging in any full contact point system Karate match with a Gi on, and second even though the face cannot be seen clearly, what you can tell is the features of a Caucasian male, and last i checked Bruce was not Caucasian ;D
@195WTF I too was surprise when i saw the first time that movie. Then the three points are possible: either it is a photomontage very successfull, which seems unlikely, or was only demonstration and not a fight official. Or it is really (and i'm sure), Lee. As for facial features, said well his face in profile and firm image. The features are clearly those of Lee, very diferent of Joe. Bruce then, if it can serve as information, was of chinese father and mother 'eurasian' (half Germany).
left hook kick to the stomach. I had to choose who to address, Bruce was certainly the last, too fast, powerful, precise and unpredictable. An absolute master...
When a few mounths ago i discoered this video and immediatelly recognized Bruc. Whoo sees Joe Lewis..., well, i certainly needs a good eye examination. I know very well the movments of Lee and the unique way to bring the right-side kick (this video is reversed)!. The original is the one above, in which Lee is right stance. Now; i do not want and wold not be possible to envisage between Lewis, Norris and Lee. To much difference in wheight. Fact is that sends Mullings the mat whit a whitering
@WHITEORSE I agree with you, I have a old bruce lee magazine and it shows him given that punch to the stomach to a karate guy. it was the same scene. I believe it was bruce lee and not joe lewis.
this was cool. i miss those guys. back in my day those guys were my version of the marvel super hereos. lewis, mullins, natividad, wallace, jeff smith, howard jackson, neglia,benny the jet. i'd love to see them on vids. great clip.
bruce is in black so all the people who say its not bruce need your eyes testing look at the way he moves ,bruce moves in away that you carnt copy so people like erikgiles1 your blind
Bruce LEE NEVER FOUGHT IN A KARATE GI also there is no info anywhere that Bruce Lee fought Skipper Mullins, ive been searching Bruce Lee since i was 13.
What?, Joe Luis!?. A that time Joe Luis wheigth 50 pounds minimun, more than the 'man in Black, figth in that video'. So, see the black dress, it's chinis!. After; the original video action, standing on right guard, same Bruce standing ever on JKD!. You don't realy undestanding that?. Incredible, absolutly incredible.
See the origina video, up. The fighter stance on right guard, same only B.Lee stance in JKD. After; you don't see if the black dress man in black,it's 'chinise' uniform?. After: hight and wheight Lewis, where are... Joe Lewis in 1969 winner first title, after lessons of Bruce. Nobody chicking like Bruce, Lewis yes, but after lessons of Lee.
lewis himself said in an interview that lee made a better teacher cause of his size. Lee was small and figure things out better with his mind to beat bigger ppl. But lee was no fighter he was a philospher. That is what lewis said in his interview.
Bruce is'nt been a professional fighter, but a very very good street fighter whithout regolament. For him, infact, and his philosophical think, it's impossible fight under restrictives regolous. He said allways: "..not important to win a cup, congratulation... and also, but to beat the opponent...!". That's been, Bruce Lee way.
u know how I can prove that its lewis and not lee. lewis throw a left side kick which is typical joe karate style. Lee leads with his right his strong lead which is strongly encouraged in jkd. Also, the guy in black has a karate gi
it's Joe Lewis. For years I thought it was Lee until I saw some other tourney footage. Same stance, etc. as in this one. Even a wide angle of Lewis from this tourney to confirm. Check the channel video - watch?v=j1ozpqOUyBU
it looks like Bruce to me in black, did anyone else notice the edit of Bruce coming from Enter The Dragon, dressed in that suit, its directly from the movie
Unbiliveble: what is the man in black.... Joe Lewis!!??. A'm italian man, and to long long time a go, having gretesth respect, and unbeliveble, deepest admiration for Bruce. So: "i'm certainly 'ABSOLUTLY' if the man dressed in black, are BRUCE LEE. All the people if watch that video, see and belive if thet man as JOE LEWIS!!!!, and time are 1960's. Incredible; are '67-'68's approximatly. And he's man are Bruce, belive mi. By, Paolo from Florence.
Yeah Joe Lewis was very fast and powerful.. as to losing to Scott and Limoz ..in combative sport rare is the champion(if he fights long enough) that goes undefeated ..Did Ali ever lose?
It's so funny to see all those geek talks by people like Brucelee4eva are out of control. They love to talk about how great Bruce Lee was or how he would have beaten so and so champions. Yet, they fail to talk about how they can improve themselves as martial artists ( only if they really are) by learning from the greats of the past.
when joe lewis said bruce wasnt a fighter because he never did a tournament ,what i think its a weak argument ,so i turn around the fact to joe lewis:joe lewis never accepted a real fight. he always knew his oppononents and how to fight them. analyze videos of his opponents or possible oppnonents. he never had the eggs to accept a real fight like lee always did. joe lewis will never give bruce the credit he really deserves because his reputation shines brighter when he talk shit on lee.
James DeMile himself was an undefeated heavyweight Air Force boxer. He has said on many occasions how he had REALLY tried to hurt Bruce, but was never able to. And please don't tell me James DeMile or boxers or soldiers ain't tough. Go pick a fight with one if you think so.
And as I've mentioned before.. a competitive fighter would need a teacher he could look up to - and that means instilling confidence in u and your fights - and that COULD possibly mean the teacher being a good enough or better fighter than yourself.
And look, if any of you watched Bruce's sparring at the Ed Parker demonstration, you would see he had much more skill in execution, interception and rhythm than Lewis in his competitions!
Sparring is not as same as actual competitions. You cannot judge how well Lee might have fought against the name champions like Lewis by merely watching what actually was a demonstration of sparring. In actual competition, your opponent try his best to overpower, outsmart you,etc. There are many instances in which quick fighter get frozen when he faces an opponent who actually try to hurt you.
I agree with you on many points. but Bruce was not doing tap sparring. His sparring sessions were mostly full contact. Still, we do not know for sure whether he did spar with Joe Lewis or not. However, one thing's for sure - NO ONE who knew Bruce dared to say he wasn't a fighter when he was alive.
@legkicker01 The only way Bruce would have fought someone like JOE is if it were for REAL.Bruce called himself a student master and was old school from the motherland.Master's all they do is perfect their art and wait for challenges and from the time he arrived in the states in 59 he had been challenged by Karate men in seattle to The Bay Area's Best Kung Fu Man.The man fought for REAL with NO RULES & NO REFERREE were the winner didnt receive a TITLE,TROPHY or MONEY just the HONOR from WINNING.
Bruce wouldn't have fought Joe Lewis either in the ring or on the street. He was just too scared of losing his face. As a matter of fact, he was afraid of fighting caucasians. He would've acted tough against his fellow Chinese and/or other Asians. So, that's why he asked Lewis to accept him as Lewis's instructor instead. Lee knew positioning himself as Lewis's instructor would boost his ego.
@legkicker01 AND you know this BECAUSE? ANYWAY'S it doesn't matter loser's like JOE talk trash now yrs after the man has passed.Yet when he was alive they learned from him.WHY learn from someone you can beat.Doesn't make sense.I would expect my teacher to be a BADASS more than me.RIGHT?Bob Wall said he first saw BRUCE in 63 when he heard that this new DEADLY KUNG FU MASTER was doing a demonstration in CHINATOWN.SO again why learn from him? Simple because he WAS as DEADLY as his REPUTATION say's.
Sounds like you are a real geek. In the world of athletic, coaches are not necessarily better than their players. Job of coaches is to make sure their players get better than before, not to prove they are superior than players. Cus D'Amato was never a serious fighter himself, nonetheless he was able to turn out some of the greatest champions in boxing, including Mike Tyson.
@legkicker01 A GEEK REALLY NOW!! Well maybe I am.Interesting you would mention Cus D'Amato who trained Joe Lewis for a while as a boxer in the late 60's during ALI's yrs in exile 67-70.Cus thought he could make Joe a champion but he decided to compete in the Virtually No Contact Karate Kid Point Tournaments of the time.NO DUMMY HE you dont get your head knocked around in those matches.BUT Boxing & MA are two different things.The trainers in boxing are usually past their prime and fighting is in
What a hypocrite you are! In other video, you put down Yori Nakamura, the Japanese JKD instructor and criticize him for not winning UFC or similar type of events. But here you try to protect a man who was well known for not having a single record of real fight. Looks like your definition of fighter change frequently depending on people you like.
What I am saying is you're just too stupid to say Bruce is not a fighter, Bruce instructed fighting techniques to many world champions. Saying Bruce is not a fighter is equal to saying a boxing coach doesn't know how to box.
There is nothing stupid about saying Lee wasn't a fighter. He taught some fighting techniques, but it was just like Cus D'Amato and Angelo Dundee were not fighters themselves, yet they both taught numerous world champion boxers. There is nothing stupid about this.
You are still ignorant. Everyone knows the late Michael Jackson was one fabulous dancer. There are tons of films that show his ability to dance. On the other hand, where is a single evidence that show us Lee really could fight?
Do can do your own search for some earlier Bruce Lee's demonstrations and listen to what the world champions who knew him actually say about him, retard!
And, What a fucking hypocrite you are? In other video, you look up Yori Nakamura, the Japanese JKD instructor, here you look down on Bruce Lee by calling him not a fighter. Looks like your definition of fighter change frequently depending on people you like.
Calling Bruce Lee not a fighter has no problem itself. It is a plain fact. Lee might have been a great teacher, though. Just like Jigoro Kano, the founder of judo, was not much of a fighter himself, but he indeed introduced one of the greatest systems of combat. The same with Bruce. There is no hypocricy, period.
"Bruce wouldn't have fought Joe Lewis either in the ring or on the street. He was just too scared of losing his face."
Bruce Lee already embarrassed Joe Lewis in front of his students, you can find the story in one of Davis Miller's books. Davis Miller is never a guy who talks positive about Bruce, but that's a story he claimed was based on Joe Lewis' own words.
If you haven't read enough story about Bruce and them, don't make stupid comments to expose your inherent stupidity.
Why I don't use FB. But my colleagues already did it. One of them even asked to spar with him. But that coward soon deleted all their comments and have blocked them from further posting on his FB.
Stop your bullshitting. You don't have such colleague. If he wants to spar with Lewis, he just signs up for an up-coming seminar of his and ask him directly that he wants to spar with him. FB is not an appropriate medium to ask for a sparring session. It is just rude.
"So, that's why he asked Lewis to accept him as Lewis's instructor instead. "
No, Joe Lewis does refer to Bruce as his teacher, read article Joe wrote for KARATE INTERNATIONAL were he states this. There is also an article from the Washington Star in 1973 which states that Bruce handles and instructs Chuck Norris, Mike Stone and Joe Lewis as a mother would to a child
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Don't be an igorant Joe fanboy who doesn't know anything about him but just want to lick his ass.
In addition, Joe Lewis has thanked Bruce Lee time and again over the years, both before and after Lee's death, for what he learned from Lee. There's a whole lot about this in 'TAO OF BRUCE LEE'. Read it moron!!
Also read who's the first introducer of full contace kick boxing into America. v=rvWgQPeyhrU
You are just another Geek Kune Do expert. Training is the most neglected phase among the GKD people. Too much time is given to the meaningless discussion of how great Bruce Lee were. And too little to the development of the individual for participation.
I don't really care about what those pimps say now. In fact, those who have badmouths on Bruce Lee/JKD are themselves GEEKS with small cocks. They never dared to stand on their ass and talk to Bruce Lee when he was alive, instead they waited for tens of years to make sure Bruce was really dead and then sneak out and talk themselves big trying to make themselves a bigger name out of Bruce Lee's fame.
You finally showed your true color. You are a loser with badmouth. You never dare to stand on your butt and talk to those who actually knew Bruce. Instead you are going to wait until Joe Lewis and others will be gone, and then you will make noise. A sign of a typical loser!
The guys who are small dick losers are those who learnt fighting from Bruce but now badmouth on him. Joe Lewis is a typical one. He was even too afraid to publish his book " How to Master Bruce Lee's Fighting System" when Bruce was alive. And now you are even a lot worse than him as you've to lick his ass.
What is the point for Joe Lewis to publish the book when Lee were still alive? Fighting has evolved in the last 3 decades, and very few would have understood the contents of the book if it were published back then.
"What is the point for Joe Lewis to publish the book when Lee were still alive?"
Of course Joe Lewis has his own right to choose to publish his book at the most appropriate time. But it's excatly becoz of this, he could add alot negative comments & deny everything he learned from Bruce simply he knew Bruce won't come back to tell the truth. So, if you want to rebut me, spare those quotes from Joe Lewis book, and admit that you have very low reading & thinking ability.
Unlike Bruce Lee, Joe Lewis proved himself as a real fighter. People can make his evaluation objectively. That separates real fighters from fictional fighters like Bruce Lee.
Who said Bruce had to fight him? Joe Lewis was not even qualified for that. Bruce just simply kicked his ass and embrassed him in front of other students. Read the Joe Lewis interview from the website I provided in my other video. Joe's not as great as you think so stop living in dreams to get pleasure from your nocturnal emissions. LOL.
I strongly encourage you to see a psychiatrist. It is you who is embarassed by your own masturbation. People with the right mind know and understand proven champions like Lewis had lot more credibility compared to someone like Lee when it comes to real fighting.
It's because you never wake up from masturbating yourself as you never see Bruce real fighting and refuse to read the fact of what of dream idol said about how he got ass kicked by Bruce.
Well, you haven't seen it doesn't mean it didn't happen, others have witnessed his fights, as simply as that, just because you are so bad luck to be borned too late, Lewis already said he got punched by Bruce Lee in front of his other students, go to read those websites I provided in the other video, moron!
You are the one who's insisted that Lee actually kicked Lewis's butt. So, you are obligated to provide the solid evidence to back up your claim. In front of Lee's other students? Who exactly were they?
Moron! told you to read the links I provided in my other video v=5mQ1VgKaNKY ! Or just grab the book The Tao of Bruce Lee, it's all recorded there, read it yourself first dumbarse!
hahaha...that was a scenario uke-nage, like one step sparing in karate (you do this, then freeze and i do that). Bruce said to Lewis "jab me". He did that, and Bruce asked him to repeat. After 3 identical moves, Bruce catch the timimg and executer that combo 1-2-3 from EOD (open scene with S Hung ). Ted Wong, after 2 or 3 days, started to say Bruce kicked JL ass. Joe Lewis took that exactly as it was, a simple drill repetition practice. No way of sparing or something like this.
it is exactly same kind of donuts like that british boy, Gary Elms, called by some "trustful" sources " british boxing champion", or that extras on Big Boss in order to suggest as Bruce would have been challenged by a MT. Even Toni Liu told something like "was a stuntman who practiced Muay Thai". But some "trusful" spreader called him furter "MT fighter" or " Thai Boxer".
Joe Lewis lost match in full-contact against Ross Scott gives numerous kicks in the head of Lewis. & 3 weeks before that lost in 3 rounds against Ted Limoz a boxer from Hawaii
Bottomline is, NO ONE dared to say Bruce wasn't a fighter when he was ALIVE. Only after he died, people like Lewis started saying Bruce wasn't a fighter. Lewis didn't have it in him to say that about Bruce when he was alive. Perhaps he knew Bruce would kick the shit outta him. And please, if you knew you were better than someone at fighting, would you continue learning from him???
are u people blind? its joe lewis. do you really think this white karate guy would stand more than 5 seconds vs bruce lee?the black guy is way too slow to be bruce lee. its joe lewis or another man but not bruce lee. Goerge tan:
"Jim Kelly said in an interview that Bruces ability was under estimated. He said that he would have done very well in competition and that some people arent giving him the credit he really deserves because there reputations are on the line.bruce was amazing"
It's outrageously funny that way too many Geek Kune Do experts believe this is the clip of Bruce Lee actually fighting a live opponent. Go watch the documentary, "Death By Misadventure." It shows it was Joe Lewis, not Bruce Lee, fighting Skipper Mullins.
This is the clip of the fight between Joe Lewis and Skipper Mullins. It was Lewis, not Bruce Lee, who first introduced the value of side kick as an effective technique for the American martial arts community.
man the self known joe lewis was afraid to say that he could beat bruce lee in the ring.and when ur number 1 in the ring wasnt sure why are u so sure that he was only an actor?many people saw bruce beating joe in the sparring very easily.joe demendet it. but it could be true. i would demend it to. there is so many we will never know.u know what i mean. all the discussion will keep his legacy alive. thats hte key that people talk about you
the people are afraid that the storys about bruce lee could be true. so they took a long time to recognize:hey bruce didnt compete in the ring. the fact he did it but not in an official ring is used to say:hey,maybe he wasnt that good. u can do now 2 things . 1. u can believe what 10000000 people said about him in 73 or u can let it be in your*he was not competing in a karate tournament ring*world. trust the people who competet in the ring.bruce was able to be a world champion. accept it
Not Bruce Lee you dips. This guy is a traditional Karate fighter. Look at his stance after he lands the sidekick. Bruce Lee was adamatly opposed to that ...hands down ready stance stuff. NOT BRUCE LEE. The guy never fought anyone of note in his life!!! He was great at what he did...great teacher, great artist, great actor, not a great fighter.
Thats not Bruce Lee. Why? Because Bruce was a right handed person and he prefers to use the southpaw stance when he fights, i mean he prefers to place his power side in the front rather than the traditional one that when your right handed, you place your power side at the back.
yeah he held the hong kong title for western boxing for 2 years UN BEATEN and even beat a uk title fight of a bare fist fighter cant think of his name up u can look it all up in google
thats defo bruce lee 100% that was filmed secretly for a t.v show before he went world famous thirs a part one to this but the part three was sold off to a private collector so not sure if where ever gona see that one in are life time
LOL!!! The vid-poster is trying to hype up Bruce. Why would Bruce need any hype U pathetic liar? What would've been more successful to fool others is to show the Longstreet clip in the dojo 1st, not Enter. The guy winning in blak is Joe Lewis who did personally train with Bruce. Accordin 2 the guy U see winning in this vid he witnessed Bruced hold a 70lbs bell in one hand and raised it with his deltoid from his side,up in front to shoulder height and HOLD it there for 5-10 seconds. Superhuman.
Uh...ain't the close up of bruce lees face at the start and at the end taken from enter the dragon? this is fake futhermore the guy dressed in black looks like a westerner!
Thats not Bruce Lee. Why? Because Bruce was a right handed person and he prefers to use the southpaw stance when he fights, i mean he prefers to place his power side in the front rather than the traditional one that when your right handed, you place your power side at the back.
The competitions in those days are nothing but point scoring affairs, its not more convincing than NHB sparring! (which is more realistic),
What aanoys me is you so called martial artists cant even see bruce's qualities when comparing him with other martial artists..what does that make you!
whether bruce competed or not he would have wiped the floor with them, all of them, bruce fought for real, he used all types of martial arts including locks and grappling, he for one was way too quick for the average and trained martial artists, why should he need to compete unless he was forced to, when he is physically head and shoulders above the competitors, would you? and waste energy when you are known already as the deadliest man on the planet!
We are talking about Joe Lewis the Martial arts fighter. Joe was the MAN in the 60's Chuck Norris, Bob Wall too. Bob wall was the 1970 champion. Bruce never won a martial arts tourny. Too many rules for Bruce, he was a free spirit and wouldn't get into it. Bruce was devising techniques, or at least modifying existing ones and Joe was using them in the ring. Bruce adopted the side kick from Joe. Joe got it from Okinawa. Before Joe, no-one was using it. Bruce was still using Gung fu pre '65.
It is Joe Lewis NOT Bruce Lee as some have mistakenly thought. Joe Lewis is good Instructor, but his ego is out of control & he is jealous as hell of Bruce Lee hence always putting him down - he was good but (there's always a but as he hates people thinking Bruce was better than him).
Igualmente, miro y miro este vídeo y veo que son dos personas de casi la misma altura; Joe Lewis mide 1,84 mts. o sea que tendría que ser más alto que Mullins; si uno mira la pelea entre Norris y Mullins son dos personas de la misma altura, cuándo Norris era poco más alto que Lee (este medía 1,69 mts.; Norris 1,74)... la pregunta que queda en el aire:¿EL QUE PELEA NO ES BRUCE LEE?
rbrtdornel 5 months ago
Aunque Joe Lewis ha dicho que no fue tan así (que Lee le enseño a él); al parecer (si bien el reconocía que Bruce Lee era rápido y con un gran poder analítico), muchas cosas le enseñó él a Lee, por ejemplo: sustituir la patada corta y poco efectiva del Wing Chun por la de Muay Thai y el uso de los golpes de puño del Kung Fu por el de Boxeo. Aparte dijo que Bruce como luchador "era del montón", por eso nunca compitió ni combatió en serio.
rbrtdornel 8 months ago
Bruce was good but he was not the best. He was more of a training who could fight. For some reason the movies takes a away from reality. Everyone thought Seagal was a master, but he was a scared chicken. Van Dame entered some tournaments. One day we will have a real fighter with acting skills, someday.
clearcombat 10 months ago
this is not BRUCE LEE.This is JOE LEWIS vs SKIPPER MULLINS.
mannybrucesalvador 11 months ago
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Lo miro y lo miro.... ¡EL DE NEGRO ES BRUCE LEE!
rbrtdornel 11 months ago
Lo miro y lo miro.... ¡EL DE NEGRO ES BRUCE LEE!
rbrtdornel 11 months ago
Este video es para los idiotas que dicen que no hay documentos de luchas reales del genial Bruce.
rbrtdornel 1 year ago
Joe Lewis will break your ribs with the side kick! What power to go along with a bull dog attitude.
ramrod20042000 1 year ago
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Lol, people have so much to say about people they never met, and know very little about except from the media. so funny.
garciagungfu 1 year ago
Sheez. I truly don't know why anybody who knows the least bit of American martial arts history regarding competition -- especially in the 1960s -- could believe that the man in black is Bruce Lee, not Joe Lewis. The guy in black is clearly MUCH bigger than Lee ever was. Compare the videos of Lee at the Internationals. Also: Lee fought right foot forward, unlike the dude in black; Lee never competed in American karate tournaments; Lee never wore a karate gi, black or otherwise --
stevevandien 1 year ago 3
@stevevandien "Lee fought right foot forward"?.... any experienced jkd fighter, boxer, martial artist ect. fights both open and closed stance.
rolotomosy82 1 year ago
@rolotomosy82 Since I said nothing about "open and closed stance," please explain the point you're trying to make. The right-dominant Lee certainly preferred to fight with his strongest weapons nearest to his opponent. Check out the four volumes of "Bruce Lee's Fighting Method," for example. But while we're on the subject, the basic boxing stance is fairly open, no? So can you name a few successful boxers who used a closed stance? Best always, Steve
stevevandien 1 year ago
@stevevandien Si uno observa el vídeo, parecen dos personas de la misma altura; Lewis tendría que ser más alto que Mullins. Para mí también el que lucha de espaldas es Bruce Lee
rbrtdornel 5 months ago
I think this not bruce lee look at his arm and size and back head
swordstauker 1 year ago
@swordstauker read the title.
bathroomatm 1 year ago
@swordstauker It's probably Bruce. If you look how he looked like in younger years say 26-29, it's probably Bruce Lee were talking about! :)
Ezol1 1 year ago
@Ezol1 Bruce Lee NEVER competed in any American karate tournament. EVERY ONE of his biographers will confirm this. Also, Skipper Mullins (white gi) fought right-side forward against Joe Lewis (left-side forward) in this competition. So why do you say "It's probably Bruce Lee were [sic] talking about?"
stevevandien 1 year ago
none may speak without documentation gentleman, for anyone can mimic the role of a legend, but a legend is thus because their abilities are so grand they seem to strain credulity. but who knows if it is bruce well, damn that side kick sure screams quite a statement
Yugiohrocker189 1 year ago
I think it's bruce. The full strech of the side kick at 0:13. And the way he tilted his head while stepping back after a good shot at 0:35.
seni1975 1 year ago
UFCNUTTA: I agree. Bruce' training of both Joe and Chuck Norris are little known facts...even though this is well documented. Both...[espesialy Chuck]...should give credit to the man who made thm what they are!
Pr1813 1 year ago
As a first hand witness...this is Joe. In a world that demanded 'focus' and restraint, Joe was an arrogant dick who rarely pulled his punches and kicks to induce fear and hesitation. He was proud of his no restraint attacks and enjoyed his ability to drop' people with his side kick! Although Bruce was an arrogant person, and would break the nose of a cocky student, he would never intentionally hurt an opponent in the ring...because he never fought in the limited tournament surroundings!
Pr1813 1 year ago
Thank you louise1967, (i'm born in '64).
Is amazing that many still see Lewis and not Lee, in front Mullings. The most striking points is that Lewis "and its funs should know this well", he used her left leg to kick side, not right!. Lee instead held the strongest part of the body (as in fencing) in front, as can be seen in all her movies, video footage and read in his books. In this video the image is reversed, the original is the other (0:38)!.
You understanding once and for all or not!!!.
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
This is actually Joe Lewis, all that speed and precision is just an after effect of being taught by Bruce himself ;)
195WTF 2 years ago 3
Its a shame that Joe Lewis doesnt give Bruce Lee the respect he deserves!
UFCNUTTA 2 years ago
Pride i guess, how many of us would give anything to be trained by Bruce, i could be twice as good as i am right now jijiji
195WTF 2 years ago
@UFCNUTTA I agree he had an attitude then and he still has one now.
mannybrucesalvador 11 months ago
@195WTF Buy a good pair of eyeglasses, you need it...
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
I think you want to believe that this is Bruce so bad that you see what you want to see, first off there is no record of Bruce ever engaging in any full contact point system Karate match with a Gi on, and second even though the face cannot be seen clearly, what you can tell is the features of a Caucasian male, and last i checked Bruce was not Caucasian ;D
195WTF 2 years ago
@195WTF I too was surprise when i saw the first time that movie. Then the three points are possible: either it is a photomontage very successfull, which seems unlikely, or was only demonstration and not a fight official. Or it is really (and i'm sure), Lee. As for facial features, said well his face in profile and firm image. The features are clearly those of Lee, very diferent of Joe. Bruce then, if it can serve as information, was of chinese father and mother 'eurasian' (half Germany).
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
@195WTF Actually, I don't think Lewis had studied with Bruce at this point. But I'll check that out and get back to you:).
stevevandien 1 year ago
left hook kick to the stomach. I had to choose who to address, Bruce was certainly the last, too fast, powerful, precise and unpredictable. An absolute master...
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
When a few mounths ago i discoered this video and immediatelly recognized Bruc. Whoo sees Joe Lewis..., well, i certainly needs a good eye examination. I know very well the movments of Lee and the unique way to bring the right-side kick (this video is reversed)!. The original is the one above, in which Lee is right stance. Now; i do not want and wold not be possible to envisage between Lewis, Norris and Lee. To much difference in wheight. Fact is that sends Mullings the mat whit a whitering
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
@WHITEORSE I agree with you, I have a old bruce lee magazine and it shows him given that punch to the stomach to a karate guy. it was the same scene. I believe it was bruce lee and not joe lewis.
louie1967 2 years ago
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WHITEORSE 2 years ago
What's your first language?
AdamSwaluk 2 years ago
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WHITEORSE 2 years ago
this was cool. i miss those guys. back in my day those guys were my version of the marvel super hereos. lewis, mullins, natividad, wallace, jeff smith, howard jackson, neglia,benny the jet. i'd love to see them on vids. great clip.
kingemerald1 2 years ago
bruce is in black so all the people who say its not bruce need your eyes testing look at the way he moves ,bruce moves in away that you carnt copy so people like erikgiles1 your blind
dragonballfist 2 years ago
Bruce LEE NEVER FOUGHT IN A KARATE GI also there is no info anywhere that Bruce Lee fought Skipper Mullins, ive been searching Bruce Lee since i was 13.
bobbyz23 2 years ago
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WHITEORSE 2 years ago
in title of this video write Joe Lewis ,and no bruce lee but from footage of Bruce Lee's Personal Film Collection.
Reasondinn 2 years ago
thats joe lewis in black folks. same karate stance, same style of kicking. bruce was why skinner and shorter.
aquin520 2 years ago 2
What?, Joe Luis!?. A that time Joe Luis wheigth 50 pounds minimun, more than the 'man in Black, figth in that video'. So, see the black dress, it's chinis!. After; the original video action, standing on right guard, same Bruce standing ever on JKD!. You don't realy undestanding that?. Incredible, absolutly incredible.
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
See the origina video, up. The fighter stance on right guard, same only B.Lee stance in JKD. After; you don't see if the black dress man in black,it's 'chinise' uniform?. After: hight and wheight Lewis, where are... Joe Lewis in 1969 winner first title, after lessons of Bruce. Nobody chicking like Bruce, Lewis yes, but after lessons of Lee.
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
lewis himself said in an interview that lee made a better teacher cause of his size. Lee was small and figure things out better with his mind to beat bigger ppl. But lee was no fighter he was a philospher. That is what lewis said in his interview.
aquin520 2 years ago
Bruce is'nt been a professional fighter, but a very very good street fighter whithout regolament. For him, infact, and his philosophical think, it's impossible fight under restrictives regolous. He said allways: "..not important to win a cup, congratulation... and also, but to beat the opponent...!". That's been, Bruce Lee way.
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
go argue with joe lewis not me. Its his interview.
aquin520 2 years ago
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WHITEORSE 2 years ago
u know how I can prove that its lewis and not lee. lewis throw a left side kick which is typical joe karate style. Lee leads with his right his strong lead which is strongly encouraged in jkd. Also, the guy in black has a karate gi
aquin520 2 years ago
i wonder if bruce lee filmed this film
fredd01111 2 years ago 2
Yo, Very impressive! fast,explosive, powerful & fluid side-kicks (exclusively used).
But, what's with stop & go action? where's the continuity? Or is this a kicking contest only?
tydollaz 2 years ago
it's Joe Lewis. For years I thought it was Lee until I saw some other tourney footage. Same stance, etc. as in this one. Even a wide angle of Lewis from this tourney to confirm. Check the channel video - watch?v=j1ozpqOUyBU
fanmedia 2 years ago
did that white dude cry at 0:21 ????
HXL056100 2 years ago
HE ISN'T BRUCE LEE
Houdininho 2 years ago
That doesn't look like Bruce Lee to me. That also looks like a Karate stance to me.
ProfessorOhms 2 years ago
FINALLY, some else besides me and see that this is not Bruce Lee, but Joe Lewis. It does RESEMBLE Bruce, a lot, but it is not Bruce.
mdigitalman 2 years ago
it looks like Bruce to me in black, did anyone else notice the edit of Bruce coming from Enter The Dragon, dressed in that suit, its directly from the movie
ChasingProductions1 2 years ago
Unbiliveble: what is the man in black.... Joe Lewis!!??. A'm italian man, and to long long time a go, having gretesth respect, and unbeliveble, deepest admiration for Bruce. So: "i'm certainly 'ABSOLUTLY' if the man dressed in black, are BRUCE LEE. All the people if watch that video, see and belive if thet man as JOE LEWIS!!!!, and time are 1960's. Incredible; are '67-'68's approximatly. And he's man are Bruce, belive mi. By, Paolo from Florence.
WHITEORSE 2 years ago
he's faster than in his movies.
wow.
AnbuSquadItachi 2 years ago
Yeah Joe Lewis was very fast and powerful.. as to losing to Scott and Limoz ..in combative sport rare is the champion(if he fights long enough) that goes undefeated ..Did Ali ever lose?
lawdog83 2 years ago
this for me is one of the best vids iv ever seen of bruce lee. i wood love to see more. 500 stars to you lucas.
odieoreilly 2 years ago
It's so funny to see all those geek talks by people like Brucelee4eva are out of control. They love to talk about how great Bruce Lee was or how he would have beaten so and so champions. Yet, they fail to talk about how they can improve themselves as martial artists ( only if they really are) by learning from the greats of the past.
legkicker01 2 years ago
when joe lewis said bruce wasnt a fighter because he never did a tournament ,what i think its a weak argument ,so i turn around the fact to joe lewis:joe lewis never accepted a real fight. he always knew his oppononents and how to fight them. analyze videos of his opponents or possible oppnonents. he never had the eggs to accept a real fight like lee always did. joe lewis will never give bruce the credit he really deserves because his reputation shines brighter when he talk shit on lee.
Brucelee4eva 2 years ago
James DeMile himself was an undefeated heavyweight Air Force boxer. He has said on many occasions how he had REALLY tried to hurt Bruce, but was never able to. And please don't tell me James DeMile or boxers or soldiers ain't tough. Go pick a fight with one if you think so.
lucidmist 2 years ago
And as I've mentioned before.. a competitive fighter would need a teacher he could look up to - and that means instilling confidence in u and your fights - and that COULD possibly mean the teacher being a good enough or better fighter than yourself.
lucidmist 2 years ago
And look, if any of you watched Bruce's sparring at the Ed Parker demonstration, you would see he had much more skill in execution, interception and rhythm than Lewis in his competitions!
lucidmist 2 years ago
Sparring is not as same as actual competitions. You cannot judge how well Lee might have fought against the name champions like Lewis by merely watching what actually was a demonstration of sparring. In actual competition, your opponent try his best to overpower, outsmart you,etc. There are many instances in which quick fighter get frozen when he faces an opponent who actually try to hurt you.
legkicker01 2 years ago 2
I agree with you on many points. but Bruce was not doing tap sparring. His sparring sessions were mostly full contact. Still, we do not know for sure whether he did spar with Joe Lewis or not. However, one thing's for sure - NO ONE who knew Bruce dared to say he wasn't a fighter when he was alive.
lucidmist 2 years ago
@legkicker01 The only way Bruce would have fought someone like JOE is if it were for REAL.Bruce called himself a student master and was old school from the motherland.Master's all they do is perfect their art and wait for challenges and from the time he arrived in the states in 59 he had been challenged by Karate men in seattle to The Bay Area's Best Kung Fu Man.The man fought for REAL with NO RULES & NO REFERREE were the winner didnt receive a TITLE,TROPHY or MONEY just the HONOR from WINNING.
mannybrucesalvador 1 year ago
@mannybrucesalvador
Bruce wouldn't have fought Joe Lewis either in the ring or on the street. He was just too scared of losing his face. As a matter of fact, he was afraid of fighting caucasians. He would've acted tough against his fellow Chinese and/or other Asians. So, that's why he asked Lewis to accept him as Lewis's instructor instead. Lee knew positioning himself as Lewis's instructor would boost his ego.
legkicker01 11 months ago
@legkicker01 AND you know this BECAUSE? ANYWAY'S it doesn't matter loser's like JOE talk trash now yrs after the man has passed.Yet when he was alive they learned from him.WHY learn from someone you can beat.Doesn't make sense.I would expect my teacher to be a BADASS more than me.RIGHT?Bob Wall said he first saw BRUCE in 63 when he heard that this new DEADLY KUNG FU MASTER was doing a demonstration in CHINATOWN.SO again why learn from him? Simple because he WAS as DEADLY as his REPUTATION say's.
mannybrucesalvador 11 months ago
@mannybrucesalvador
Sounds like you are a real geek. In the world of athletic, coaches are not necessarily better than their players. Job of coaches is to make sure their players get better than before, not to prove they are superior than players. Cus D'Amato was never a serious fighter himself, nonetheless he was able to turn out some of the greatest champions in boxing, including Mike Tyson.
legkicker01 11 months ago
@legkicker01 A GEEK REALLY NOW!! Well maybe I am.Interesting you would mention Cus D'Amato who trained Joe Lewis for a while as a boxer in the late 60's during ALI's yrs in exile 67-70.Cus thought he could make Joe a champion but he decided to compete in the Virtually No Contact Karate Kid Point Tournaments of the time.NO DUMMY HE you dont get your head knocked around in those matches.BUT Boxing & MA are two different things.The trainers in boxing are usually past their prime and fighting is in
mannybrucesalvador 11 months ago
@mannybrucesalvador
Whatever you say about boxing coaches, still Bruce Lee was a coach, never a fighter. You cannot change the fact, period.
legkicker01 11 months ago
@legkicker01
Why he's not?
How do you define a fighter?
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
What a hypocrite you are! In other video, you put down Yori Nakamura, the Japanese JKD instructor and criticize him for not winning UFC or similar type of events. But here you try to protect a man who was well known for not having a single record of real fight. Looks like your definition of fighter change frequently depending on people you like.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
No, you don't understand me!
What I am saying is you're just too stupid to say Bruce is not a fighter, Bruce instructed fighting techniques to many world champions. Saying Bruce is not a fighter is equal to saying a boxing coach doesn't know how to box.
Isn't that stupid enough??
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
There is nothing stupid about saying Lee wasn't a fighter. He taught some fighting techniques, but it was just like Cus D'Amato and Angelo Dundee were not fighters themselves, yet they both taught numerous world champion boxers. There is nothing stupid about this.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
"There is nothing stupid about saying Lee wasn't a fighter. "
Who said Cus D'Amato and Angelo Dundee were not fighters? If only becoz they don't have any titles themselves, still doesn't mean they can't fight.
Was Michael Jackson a champion in dancing? No, but everyone knows he's a very good dance, almost can claim him one of the greatests.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
You are still ignorant. Everyone knows the late Michael Jackson was one fabulous dancer. There are tons of films that show his ability to dance. On the other hand, where is a single evidence that show us Lee really could fight?
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
Do can do your own search for some earlier Bruce Lee's demonstrations and listen to what the world champions who knew him actually say about him, retard!
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
Still, you didn't have a chance to see him fought for real.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
You Idiot, when most people know about him he's already dead, spare the bullshit & use your brain pls.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
You are the one who should use your brain for productive purposes. Multiple comments with trash talk is a true sign of geekness.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
Can't name the book out, can't state your point.
Multiple trash comments from you!
IpMan19 8 months ago
@legkicker01
And, What a fucking hypocrite you are? In other video, you look up Yori Nakamura, the Japanese JKD instructor, here you look down on Bruce Lee by calling him not a fighter. Looks like your definition of fighter change frequently depending on people you like.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
Calling Bruce Lee not a fighter has no problem itself. It is a plain fact. Lee might have been a great teacher, though. Just like Jigoro Kano, the founder of judo, was not much of a fighter himself, but he indeed introduced one of the greatest systems of combat. The same with Bruce. There is no hypocricy, period.
legkicker01 8 months ago
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@legkicker01
"Calling Bruce Lee not a fighter has no problem itself. It is a plain fact."
You're a complete idiot. It is a plain fact.
"Just like Jigoro Kano, the founder of judo, was not much of a fighter himself, but he indeed introduced one of the greatest systems of combat. "
I heard there are saying karate and judo were originated from China, and since Japanese fighters are all crap, who cares about your Jigoro Kano?
IpMan19 8 months ago
@legkicker01
"Bruce wouldn't have fought Joe Lewis either in the ring or on the street. He was just too scared of losing his face."
Bruce Lee already embarrassed Joe Lewis in front of his students, you can find the story in one of Davis Miller's books. Davis Miller is never a guy who talks positive about Bruce, but that's a story he claimed was based on Joe Lewis' own words.
If you haven't read enough story about Bruce and them, don't make stupid comments to expose your inherent stupidity.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
Joe Lewis has his Facebook. Why don't you talk to him directly?
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
Why I don't use FB. But my colleagues already did it. One of them even asked to spar with him. But that coward soon deleted all their comments and have blocked them from further posting on his FB.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
Stop your bullshitting. You don't have such colleague. If he wants to spar with Lewis, he just signs up for an up-coming seminar of his and ask him directly that he wants to spar with him. FB is not an appropriate medium to ask for a sparring session. It is just rude.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
"he just signs up for an up-coming seminar of his and ask him directly "
Then, what's the point to ask me go to his FB, you Joe's cock sucker??
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
It's because you said you don't use FB. That's it. Do you understand English?
legkicker01 8 months ago
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@legkicker01
"It's because you said you don't use FB. That's it. Do you understand English?"
You told me to talked to Joe in his FB before I told you that I don't use FB. Do you understand English?
IpMan19 8 months ago
@legkicker01
"So, that's why he asked Lewis to accept him as Lewis's instructor instead. "
No, Joe Lewis does refer to Bruce as his teacher, read article Joe wrote for KARATE INTERNATIONAL were he states this. There is also an article from the Washington Star in 1973 which states that Bruce handles and instructs Chuck Norris, Mike Stone and Joe Lewis as a mother would to a child
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Don't be an igorant Joe fanboy who doesn't know anything about him but just want to lick his ass.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
Read the article of Mike Stone in Joe Lewis's book. You will quickly find the truth
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
"Read the article of Mike Stone in Joe Lewis's book "
Which book?? You can't even name the book yet you claim there is a truth in it??
But since you said that, I assume you already read it. Why makes you scared of just telling it to us here?
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
"How to Master Bruce Lee's Fighting System " That's the book.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
So, you have read it and what is stated there? You haven't given your point.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@legkicker01
In addition, Joe Lewis has thanked Bruce Lee time and again over the years, both before and after Lee's death, for what he learned from Lee. There's a whole lot about this in 'TAO OF BRUCE LEE'. Read it moron!!
Also read who's the first introducer of full contace kick boxing into America. v=rvWgQPeyhrU
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
You are just another Geek Kune Do expert. Training is the most neglected phase among the GKD people. Too much time is given to the meaningless discussion of how great Bruce Lee were. And too little to the development of the individual for participation.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
I don't really care about what those pimps say now. In fact, those who have badmouths on Bruce Lee/JKD are themselves GEEKS with small cocks. They never dared to stand on their ass and talk to Bruce Lee when he was alive, instead they waited for tens of years to make sure Bruce was really dead and then sneak out and talk themselves big trying to make themselves a bigger name out of Bruce Lee's fame.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
You finally showed your true color. You are a loser with badmouth. You never dare to stand on your butt and talk to those who actually knew Bruce. Instead you are going to wait until Joe Lewis and others will be gone, and then you will make noise. A sign of a typical loser!
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
The guys who are small dick losers are those who learnt fighting from Bruce but now badmouth on him. Joe Lewis is a typical one. He was even too afraid to publish his book " How to Master Bruce Lee's Fighting System" when Bruce was alive. And now you are even a lot worse than him as you've to lick his ass.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
What is the point for Joe Lewis to publish the book when Lee were still alive? Fighting has evolved in the last 3 decades, and very few would have understood the contents of the book if it were published back then.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
"What is the point for Joe Lewis to publish the book when Lee were still alive?"
Of course Joe Lewis has his own right to choose to publish his book at the most appropriate time. But it's excatly becoz of this, he could add alot negative comments & deny everything he learned from Bruce simply he knew Bruce won't come back to tell the truth. So, if you want to rebut me, spare those quotes from Joe Lewis book, and admit that you have very low reading & thinking ability.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
Tell me what exactly do YOU know about what happened between Lee and Lewis? Were you there with them at that time? Don't pretend you know about them.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
"Tell me what exactly do YOU know about what happened between Lee and Lewis? "
Then, tell me how much you know about them. You were the one who speaks so highly of Joe Lewis.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
Unlike Bruce Lee, Joe Lewis proved himself as a real fighter. People can make his evaluation objectively. That separates real fighters from fictional fighters like Bruce Lee.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
If he fought like that v=oj_e-QmZ7Jc, no wonder why Joe Lewis got his ass kicked by Bruce in front of his students.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
Bruce didn't fight any known fighter. He only fought a couple of John Doe. Stop your masturbation and grow up.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
Who said Bruce had to fight him? Joe Lewis was not even qualified for that. Bruce just simply kicked his ass and embrassed him in front of other students. Read the Joe Lewis interview from the website I provided in my other video. Joe's not as great as you think so stop living in dreams to get pleasure from your nocturnal emissions. LOL.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
I strongly encourage you to see a psychiatrist. It is you who is embarassed by your own masturbation. People with the right mind know and understand proven champions like Lewis had lot more credibility compared to someone like Lee when it comes to real fighting.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
It's because you never wake up from masturbating yourself as you never see Bruce real fighting and refuse to read the fact of what of dream idol said about how he got ass kicked by Bruce.
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
When was the last time you saw Lee actually fought for real? Don't make up your own story. Lewis has never stated such nonsense.
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
Well, you haven't seen it doesn't mean it didn't happen, others have witnessed his fights, as simply as that, just because you are so bad luck to be borned too late, Lewis already said he got punched by Bruce Lee in front of his other students, go to read those websites I provided in the other video, moron!
IpMan19 8 months ago
@IpMan19
You are the one who's insisted that Lee actually kicked Lewis's butt. So, you are obligated to provide the solid evidence to back up your claim. In front of Lee's other students? Who exactly were they?
legkicker01 8 months ago
@legkicker01
Moron! told you to read the links I provided in my other video v=5mQ1VgKaNKY ! Or just grab the book The Tao of Bruce Lee, it's all recorded there, read it yourself first dumbarse!
IpMan19 8 months ago
@legkicker01
hahaha...that was a scenario uke-nage, like one step sparing in karate (you do this, then freeze and i do that). Bruce said to Lewis "jab me". He did that, and Bruce asked him to repeat. After 3 identical moves, Bruce catch the timimg and executer that combo 1-2-3 from EOD (open scene with S Hung ). Ted Wong, after 2 or 3 days, started to say Bruce kicked JL ass. Joe Lewis took that exactly as it was, a simple drill repetition practice. No way of sparing or something like this.
vaggoner 6 months ago
@legkicker01
it is exactly same kind of donuts like that british boy, Gary Elms, called by some "trustful" sources " british boxing champion", or that extras on Big Boss in order to suggest as Bruce would have been challenged by a MT. Even Toni Liu told something like "was a stuntman who practiced Muay Thai". But some "trusful" spreader called him furter "MT fighter" or " Thai Boxer".
vaggoner 6 months ago
Joe Lewis lost match in full-contact against Ross Scott gives numerous kicks in the head of Lewis. & 3 weeks before that lost in 3 rounds against Ted Limoz a boxer from Hawaii
mfuji00001 2 years ago
Bottomline is, NO ONE dared to say Bruce wasn't a fighter when he was ALIVE. Only after he died, people like Lewis started saying Bruce wasn't a fighter. Lewis didn't have it in him to say that about Bruce when he was alive. Perhaps he knew Bruce would kick the shit outta him. And please, if you knew you were better than someone at fighting, would you continue learning from him???
lucidmist 2 years ago
Maybe very few people cared whether Lee was actually a fighter or not.
legkicker01 2 years ago
are u people blind? its joe lewis. do you really think this white karate guy would stand more than 5 seconds vs bruce lee?the black guy is way too slow to be bruce lee. its joe lewis or another man but not bruce lee. Goerge tan:
"Jim Kelly said in an interview that Bruces ability was under estimated. He said that he would have done very well in competition and that some people arent giving him the credit he really deserves because there reputations are on the line.bruce was amazing"
Brucelee4eva 2 years ago
Enough with your geek talk.
legkicker01 2 years ago 3
its not bruce lee
mrJealous 2 years ago
It's outrageously funny that way too many Geek Kune Do experts believe this is the clip of Bruce Lee actually fighting a live opponent. Go watch the documentary, "Death By Misadventure." It shows it was Joe Lewis, not Bruce Lee, fighting Skipper Mullins.
legkicker01 2 years ago
nevermind
KashiemStreetFighter 2 years ago
that is bruce lee dumb asses u can tell how he looks in his speed
Jaden432 2 years ago
This is the clip of the fight between Joe Lewis and Skipper Mullins. It was Lewis, not Bruce Lee, who first introduced the value of side kick as an effective technique for the American martial arts community.
legkicker01 2 years ago 2
man the self known joe lewis was afraid to say that he could beat bruce lee in the ring.and when ur number 1 in the ring wasnt sure why are u so sure that he was only an actor?many people saw bruce beating joe in the sparring very easily.joe demendet it. but it could be true. i would demend it to. there is so many we will never know.u know what i mean. all the discussion will keep his legacy alive. thats hte key that people talk about you
Brucelee4eva 2 years ago
the people are afraid that the storys about bruce lee could be true. so they took a long time to recognize:hey bruce didnt compete in the ring. the fact he did it but not in an official ring is used to say:hey,maybe he wasnt that good. u can do now 2 things . 1. u can believe what 10000000 people said about him in 73 or u can let it be in your*he was not competing in a karate tournament ring*world. trust the people who competet in the ring.bruce was able to be a world champion. accept it
Brucelee4eva 2 years ago
DAMN WHITE DUDE GOT HIS ASS KICKED! LOL
geninXnaruto 3 years ago
yeah thats bruce i can tell, as for the honkey i dont know who he is
megaman2160 3 years ago
this is bruce lee, i am sure of that. Nobody can have a body like him!
anyway, he kicked the hell out of karate master!
huynguyenkimnga 3 years ago
It's Joe Lewis.
If it appeases you, Lewis and Lee trained together at one point..
Devilbat 2 years ago
bruce = southpaw stance dipstick!
johnsmdm 3 years ago
It's not good enough to be Bruce Lee.
koukoucitydunkers2 3 years ago
Not Bruce Lee you dips. This guy is a traditional Karate fighter. Look at his stance after he lands the sidekick. Bruce Lee was adamatly opposed to that ...hands down ready stance stuff. NOT BRUCE LEE. The guy never fought anyone of note in his life!!! He was great at what he did...great teacher, great artist, great actor, not a great fighter.
bozez1 3 years ago
Well, did you know meet him?
Some wellknown fighters said that Bruce was a great fighter first of all. Maybe you have to study more..
daemon166 3 years ago
ppl should separate myth from reality. Bruce Lee was a great martial artist, but he never fought . He never user his JKD in any fight.
tcaetano1 2 years ago
Dude, do your research!
lucidmist 2 years ago
Thats not Bruce Lee. Why? Because Bruce was a right handed person and he prefers to use the southpaw stance when he fights, i mean he prefers to place his power side in the front rather than the traditional one that when your right handed, you place your power side at the back.
JakeHustle2 3 years ago 2
it definitely looks like bruce, form physique speed stance... i would definitely believe its him, this guy looks like a jeet kune do master
brucelee6790 3 years ago
This aint bruce, why claim it to be?
Miguels07 3 years ago
Joe Lewis
shengchenfan 3 years ago
yeah he held the hong kong title for western boxing for 2 years UN BEATEN and even beat a uk title fight of a bare fist fighter cant think of his name up u can look it all up in google
jimbob202019 3 years ago
thats defo bruce lee 100% that was filmed secretly for a t.v show before he went world famous thirs a part one to this but the part three was sold off to a private collector so not sure if where ever gona see that one in are life time
jimbob202019 3 years ago
Damn. I can't tell who it is but he is damn fast!
livendapast 3 years ago
Yes,it's our Bruce! 1000 % Regards,gagi
gagiandjeo 3 years ago
chcieli by żeby to był bruce lee ale to nie on
Piotopiotr 3 years ago
LOL!!! The vid-poster is trying to hype up Bruce. Why would Bruce need any hype U pathetic liar? What would've been more successful to fool others is to show the Longstreet clip in the dojo 1st, not Enter. The guy winning in blak is Joe Lewis who did personally train with Bruce. Accordin 2 the guy U see winning in this vid he witnessed Bruced hold a 70lbs bell in one hand and raised it with his deltoid from his side,up in front to shoulder height and HOLD it there for 5-10 seconds. Superhuman.
batmanpp 3 years ago
Uh...ain't the close up of bruce lees face at the start and at the end taken from enter the dragon? this is fake futhermore the guy dressed in black looks like a westerner!
roger69er 3 years ago
its a black and white clip, joe lewis has dark hair, its normal if it shows up as black.
HDsharp 3 years ago
OH YEAH - THIS IS NOT BUCE LEE
Criztianbf 3 years ago
people please dont believe this THIS IS NOT BRUCE LEE
gnicevids 3 years ago
You can see quite clearly this is Bruce Lee.
123manny321 3 years ago
that's not Bruce Lee! at 0:19 that is a karate stance. also Bruce was a right stancer and he never uses a wide stance when sparring
heavendevil111 3 years ago
Thats not Bruce Lee. Why? Because Bruce was a right handed person and he prefers to use the southpaw stance when he fights, i mean he prefers to place his power side in the front rather than the traditional one that when your right handed, you place your power side at the back.
JakeHustle2 3 years ago
No that is not bruce, this guy is too stiff.
HDsharp 3 years ago
+ he's wearing black karate gi rarely if ever he'd do that.
mfuji00001 3 years ago
Yeah its not Bruce. Its funny how a lot of "Rare Footage" suddenly appears decades after Bruce's death know what I mean.
panchodelrancho0331 3 years ago
The competitions in those days are nothing but point scoring affairs, its not more convincing than NHB sparring! (which is more realistic),
What aanoys me is you so called martial artists cant even see bruce's qualities when comparing him with other martial artists..what does that make you!
HDsharp 3 years ago
he did professional western boxing
Kippest 3 years ago
whether bruce competed or not he would have wiped the floor with them, all of them, bruce fought for real, he used all types of martial arts including locks and grappling, he for one was way too quick for the average and trained martial artists, why should he need to compete unless he was forced to, when he is physically head and shoulders above the competitors, would you? and waste energy when you are known already as the deadliest man on the planet!
HDsharp 3 years ago
5 stars!
gagiandjeo 3 years ago
i know joe ewis the boxer, not the martial artist, i was convinced it was bruce
ichimich75 3 years ago
We are talking about Joe Lewis the Martial arts fighter. Joe was the MAN in the 60's Chuck Norris, Bob Wall too. Bob wall was the 1970 champion. Bruce never won a martial arts tourny. Too many rules for Bruce, he was a free spirit and wouldn't get into it. Bruce was devising techniques, or at least modifying existing ones and Joe was using them in the ring. Bruce adopted the side kick from Joe. Joe got it from Okinawa. Before Joe, no-one was using it. Bruce was still using Gung fu pre '65.
Jeet27 3 years ago
this is not bruce. The kung fu guy had a bigger build. bruce was more skinny
kingfbi 3 years ago
i think this is the documentary called 'the man the legend',anyway bruce would never wear that uniform as far as im concern
shok2death 3 years ago
thats definitely not bruce
kingfbi 3 years ago
It is Joe Lewis NOT Bruce Lee as some have mistakenly thought. Joe Lewis is good Instructor, but his ego is out of control & he is jealous as hell of Bruce Lee hence always putting him down - he was good but (there's always a but as he hates people thinking Bruce was better than him).
CloudsBeyond 3 years ago
That's not what all the interviews with Joe Lewis depict. The interviews with Joe show him being very respectful toward Bruce.