Can anyone tell me about that section from 1:15 to 1:26? It looks like they are going up a steep incline and it looks awesome, but I've never seen it in modern races.
No - Ferrari were not Ferrari-Lancia in 1955. The Lancia D50 was a seperate team altogether. It was only at the start of the 1956 season when Lancia had pulled out of GP racing and gave Ferrari their Lancia D50s that they were renamed 'Lancia-Ferrari D50'.
Ferrari was nowhere near the pace of Mercedes in 1955. If not for the technical malfunction in Monaco, Mercedes would have won every single race that season. Good for Ferrari that the LeMans crash in 1955 meant that Mercedes immediately pulled out of ALL forms of motorracing, and didn't return until the late 80's.
You really dont understand? Have you ever seen a F1 car in real life? Compare one from around those days to a current one and you'll get what he's saying. No electronics, no gadgets, no auto gearing no nothing. Just the driver and his machine without anything helping him.
Back then racing was a lot more pure then it is these days. I wouldnt want to go back, but i agree with EJRocky
@darkoneforce2, if don't know what I meant with this reading mistake, let me try to explain it again:
in 1958, there were these special boards to show infos about the drivers. and on this one which I now explain, Moss was shown Hawthorn record, which means that Hawthorn got the fastest lap. And until 1960, you could earn a bonus point for achieving the fastest lap. But Moss accidentally read Hawthorn regular, so he didn't hunt for hawthorns lap. So Hawthorn got champion 2 races before the end.
@darkoneforce2, really? well, i needed to read more properly. you were right, the championship was decided in morocco. this famous reading mistake was three races before end at porto.
Moss still won 4 races compared to Hawthorn's 1 race. That was in 1958 btw.
Also Hawthorn could have gotten disqualified in Portugal because he was pushing his car on the racetrack. Since Moss was such a gentleman he actually said he witnessed Hawthorn NOT pushing on the racetrack but on the side. This act of gentlemanship actually lost Moss the title.
Vanwall still won the Constructors' championship that year, which was the first. Moss led almost twice the amount of laps.
In that case Keke Rosberg was a well deserved champion in 1982. He only won one race, but got a lot of podiums and that despite having a non-turbo car which was 4'th best and not even as good as the MP4/1B McLaren, with the same Cosworth engine.
Which is why Reutemann deserved the 1981 title, if not for not counting his win in the South African GP, and the malfunctioning gearbox in the very last race.
One can also argue the 1986 title was Mansell's, if not for a puncture in the last race in which he was leading.
Jim Clark lost the 62,64 and 67 title due to reliability, nothing else. Same for Raikkonen in 2005.
His speed mysteriously came back in 09 after Massa's incident despite Ferrari stopped developing their car... Nevertheless, the championship changed something in Kimi. I remember I watched from tv when he visited the celebration held by president of Finland in December 07. The reporter asked Kimi something about future and Kimi answered something like he's already won the title. I got this impression that he had lost the pinnacle of motivation, that he stayed in F1 for fun :/
In 2008 the Ferrari (and its tires) weren't to Raikkonen's liking, and after a few mechanical troubles while leading (France) and Hamilton taking him out in Canada, he lost the "pace".
Interestingly enough Michael Schumacher ALSO never got used to the balance of the tires of his Mercedes in 2010, so either Schumacher's superiority is a myth too considering he was easily beaten by Nico Rosberg (who is yet to win a race) or it's more...
@McLarenMercedes BRM was not the best car in 64 or 65; it was more reliable then the Lotus in 64.
The 65 Lotus had both speed and reliability and the best driver in it.
Lotus had the fastest car (for most of the season) in 1960, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 68 but they only had reliability in 63, 65 and 68.
Schumacher is old, if you look at footage/ archive from his early days and compare it to 2010 it's like he's driving/ moving in slow motion. The competition is also tougher these days.
I agree, although I would go back, Why not? It'd be great to see if Jensen Button could handle being a proper gladiator, and not just a corporate puppet that is a modern day racing driver. Not that I don't enjoy F1 now, but it's not like it used to be even in the 90s. These days it's all about money with hardly any risk at all. Nobody wants to see drivers getting killed apart from some sick mofos here on youtube, but I like to see drivers really pushing right to the limit, regardless of danger.
Offcourse there we're better teams. And maybe the differences between them we're larger then as they are now.
Thats not what i was talking about. It's the diffence that a machine then was much less sophisticated as they are now. And the fact that if you went off track or flipped it almost certainly ment big trouble. That made it more about having balls and loving the sport then it does today. More pure in my eyes.
Motorsport was created as a way for the car manufacturers to develop and promote the automobile.
That's what purity is about in motorsport, big publicity/advertising and technology that trickles down into production cars and beyond.
Racing improves the breed, and win on Sunday sell on Monday as they say.
There where lots of people who loved the sport but couldn't get in as they didn't have money from their rich parents like Moss or their government/wealthy supporters like Fangio.
it aint the same, atleast you know when you come out from the tunnel there is nowdays a Left-Right and Right-Left, those days it was only a Left-Right chicane. Then the other track I dont know if there is changes, dont thin so. :)
Actually the Rascasse didn't exist as well; if you watch the video, the start is where the swimming pool is now and is a straight shot from Tabac to a 180-degree hairpin that led onto what is now the pit straight.
idc how dangerous motorsport was back then. i still would have done this
BleedThemBones 7 months ago
Geeze, that looks sooooooooo dangerous. Those guys really had some big ones hanging down there.
carcy007 8 months ago
i"ve got maurice trintignant"s novel!
randrianabel 1 year ago
Can anyone tell me about that section from 1:15 to 1:26? It looks like they are going up a steep incline and it looks awesome, but I've never seen it in modern races.
JasonWW2000 1 year ago
@JasonWW2000
It is Beau Rivage up to Casino.
This part of the Monaco is today as well.
159ALFATI 1 year ago
Saruman!
Buran288gto 1 year ago
No - Ferrari were not Ferrari-Lancia in 1955. The Lancia D50 was a seperate team altogether. It was only at the start of the 1956 season when Lancia had pulled out of GP racing and gave Ferrari their Lancia D50s that they were renamed 'Lancia-Ferrari D50'.
llewmarb1 2 years ago
Thats the race that alberto ascari crashed into the bay.
limitlessracer 2 years ago
that season's ferrari where lancia-ferrari :)
uudrakgvens94 2 years ago
Very good video
PopcornAndCocaCola 2 years ago
is it ferrari vs mercedes championship?huhuhu
aimanrs2 2 years ago 7
@aimanrs2
Ferrari was nowhere near the pace of Mercedes in 1955. If not for the technical malfunction in Monaco, Mercedes would have won every single race that season. Good for Ferrari that the LeMans crash in 1955 meant that Mercedes immediately pulled out of ALL forms of motorracing, and didn't return until the late 80's.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
thats mclaren mercedes!
aimanrs2 2 years ago
Whats the name of the whole video, doesn´t seem like just another review, but more like a part of a documentary or something.
wacha90 2 years ago
Driver aids where banned after 2007.
So WTF are you talking about ?!
It's called motorsport or auto racing and not driver-sport for a reason.
darkoneforce2 2 years ago
You really dont understand? Have you ever seen a F1 car in real life? Compare one from around those days to a current one and you'll get what he's saying. No electronics, no gadgets, no auto gearing no nothing. Just the driver and his machine without anything helping him.
Back then racing was a lot more pure then it is these days. I wouldnt want to go back, but i agree with EJRocky
MolanoZwolle 2 years ago
Motorsport was never that pure.
There where always cars that where faster and more reliable and teams that where better.
It didn't matter if a driver was better, if the car would brake down and maybe injure him of kill him in the process.
Why didn't Moss win a WDC despite being the fastest driver in the field after Fangio left ?!
Why didn't Ascari won anything in 54 after dominating in 52 and 53 ?!
How high G forces and to what level of dehydration where they subjected to ?!
darkoneforce2 2 years ago
@darkoneforce2, to answer about moss:
there was this infamous reading mistake two races before championship end: moss read hawthorn regular, but it was hawthorn record. that was in 1958.
in 1959, he had some technical problems. just informing you.
KillerDreck89 1 year ago
@KillerDreck89 What exactly are you trying to say ?!
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Technical problems, that was precisely my point. The best driver without good equipment cannot win.
darkoneforce2 1 year ago
@darkoneforce2, if don't know what I meant with this reading mistake, let me try to explain it again:
in 1958, there were these special boards to show infos about the drivers. and on this one which I now explain, Moss was shown Hawthorn record, which means that Hawthorn got the fastest lap. And until 1960, you could earn a bonus point for achieving the fastest lap. But Moss accidentally read Hawthorn regular, so he didn't hunt for hawthorns lap. So Hawthorn got champion 2 races before the end.
KillerDreck89 1 year ago
@KillerDreck89 The Championship was won at the last championship race in Morocco.
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Moss lost because his car broke down 5 times compared to 2 times for Hawthorn.
Ferrari reliability won the championship.
darkoneforce2 1 year ago
@darkoneforce2, really? well, i needed to read more properly. you were right, the championship was decided in morocco. this famous reading mistake was three races before end at porto.
KillerDreck89 1 year ago
@darkoneforce2
Moss still won 4 races compared to Hawthorn's 1 race. That was in 1958 btw.
Also Hawthorn could have gotten disqualified in Portugal because he was pushing his car on the racetrack. Since Moss was such a gentleman he actually said he witnessed Hawthorn NOT pushing on the racetrack but on the side. This act of gentlemanship actually lost Moss the title.
Vanwall still won the Constructors' championship that year, which was the first. Moss led almost twice the amount of laps.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes I know all that.
But championships are won when everything is added together giving the higher number of points.
Moss came up with 1 point less.
darkoneforce2 1 year ago
@darkoneforce2
In that case Keke Rosberg was a well deserved champion in 1982. He only won one race, but got a lot of podiums and that despite having a non-turbo car which was 4'th best and not even as good as the MP4/1B McLaren, with the same Cosworth engine.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@darkoneforce2
Which is why Reutemann deserved the 1981 title, if not for not counting his win in the South African GP, and the malfunctioning gearbox in the very last race.
One can also argue the 1986 title was Mansell's, if not for a puncture in the last race in which he was leading.
Jim Clark lost the 62,64 and 67 title due to reliability, nothing else. Same for Raikkonen in 2005.
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes Well you can't argue that Clark was the best driver, by quite a margin.
Even if his cars wouldn't have been the fastest (witch they were in 62, 63, 64, 65 and 67) he would have beaten everyone given equal equipment.
Räikkönen ... he had a faster but less reliable car. But his supposed speed superiority myth ended when Massa started to beat him.
darkoneforce2 1 year ago
@darkoneforce2
His speed mysteriously came back in 09 after Massa's incident despite Ferrari stopped developing their car... Nevertheless, the championship changed something in Kimi. I remember I watched from tv when he visited the celebration held by president of Finland in December 07. The reporter asked Kimi something about future and Kimi answered something like he's already won the title. I got this impression that he had lost the pinnacle of motivation, that he stayed in F1 for fun :/
Pirkinmaa 1 year ago
@darkoneforce2
The BRM was the best car in 1964 and 1965.
In 2008 the Ferrari (and its tires) weren't to Raikkonen's liking, and after a few mechanical troubles while leading (France) and Hamilton taking him out in Canada, he lost the "pace".
Interestingly enough Michael Schumacher ALSO never got used to the balance of the tires of his Mercedes in 2010, so either Schumacher's superiority is a myth too considering he was easily beaten by Nico Rosberg (who is yet to win a race) or it's more...
McLarenMercedes 1 year ago
@McLarenMercedes BRM was not the best car in 64 or 65; it was more reliable then the Lotus in 64.
The 65 Lotus had both speed and reliability and the best driver in it.
Lotus had the fastest car (for most of the season) in 1960, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1967, 68 but they only had reliability in 63, 65 and 68.
Schumacher is old, if you look at footage/ archive from his early days and compare it to 2010 it's like he's driving/ moving in slow motion. The competition is also tougher these days.
darkoneforce2 1 year ago
I agree, although I would go back, Why not? It'd be great to see if Jensen Button could handle being a proper gladiator, and not just a corporate puppet that is a modern day racing driver. Not that I don't enjoy F1 now, but it's not like it used to be even in the 90s. These days it's all about money with hardly any risk at all. Nobody wants to see drivers getting killed apart from some sick mofos here on youtube, but I like to see drivers really pushing right to the limit, regardless of danger.
stevierotterdam 2 years ago
Offcourse there we're better teams. And maybe the differences between them we're larger then as they are now.
Thats not what i was talking about. It's the diffence that a machine then was much less sophisticated as they are now. And the fact that if you went off track or flipped it almost certainly ment big trouble. That made it more about having balls and loving the sport then it does today. More pure in my eyes.
Question mark exclamation mark.
MolanoZwolle 2 years ago
Motorsport was created as a way for the car manufacturers to develop and promote the automobile.
That's what purity is about in motorsport, big publicity/advertising and technology that trickles down into production cars and beyond.
Racing improves the breed, and win on Sunday sell on Monday as they say.
There where lots of people who loved the sport but couldn't get in as they didn't have money from their rich parents like Moss or their government/wealthy supporters like Fangio.
darkoneforce2 2 years ago
Ah, the good old days... before any rubbishy driver aids, when men were men, and everything smelt of rubber, oil and metal.
Love it.
EJRocky 2 years ago
wow do u c how n-e body can jus walk out in the streetz they didnt have alot of wallz around the track,thatz crazii
babiiblueboi 2 years ago
i love the monaco gp !!!!
THM2008 2 years ago
:01 -- did men take large doses of estrogen back then??? 'dems is some big titties -- sorry, had to be said. Still badasses!
GreenDestiny 2 years ago
WOW AMAZING!
alanjp25 2 years ago
just this ... SHOW !!!!
SprintVideos 2 years ago
LOL its all so ridiculously unsafe, youve got people wathing on the kerbsides haha
simoncase 2 years ago
yes but this was REAL, the drivers knew the car and how to drive them and it wasn't so money driven.......
TLTBoy 2 years ago
and they died more.
Mongoose1358 2 years ago
LOL NICE HAIR AND CLOTHES
wccpmr 2 years ago
The 3 ponted star-there's no other car.
BillDFC 3 years ago
Its little bit wierd a then are colorfilm :D
MegaErkki 3 years ago
was ascari's car ever recovered?
brianmollineau 4 years ago
yeah...they recovered it.
Troylito 4 years ago 3
Sounds like Christopher Lee...
kzvxrpl 4 years ago
there wasnt swimming pool round on those days... i thinked that monaco circuit is same now what it was then
juhdiakathat 4 years ago
it aint the same, atleast you know when you come out from the tunnel there is nowdays a Left-Right and Right-Left, those days it was only a Left-Right chicane. Then the other track I dont know if there is changes, dont thin so. :)
92NB 4 years ago
Actually the Rascasse didn't exist as well; if you watch the video, the start is where the swimming pool is now and is a straight shot from Tabac to a 180-degree hairpin that led onto what is now the pit straight.
goblue353 4 years ago
Hi to Rozier brothers......
randrianabel 4 years ago
Yes it was great era!
andriusssska 5 years ago