The other countries can tell their citizens what they will receive in terms of medical attention, that is their business. I don't care about Canada, or the U.K, or whoever. This is the U.S.A., where the Constition is THE LAW! All members of Congress and the President take an oath to support, protect, and defend it.
I was INSPIRED BY A KIDNEY DOCTOR in the meaning of selfless devotion to the causes surrounding redemption in the formation of a mother's right to have a tender interlude before the Hoover Vacuum Machine Company transfers the precious contents of her womb-sanctuary to a metal canister.
Americans are dumbasses, who don't know how wretched their country is not having guraranteed health care like most industrialised nations. They deserve the stupid presidents like Bush, and if can get enough idiots to vote in 2012 they can have Sarah Palin. God help the rest of the world though.
WAKE UP, FOX VIEWERS! FOX THINKS YOU ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THEIR CRAP INDEFINITELY! ARE THEY RIGHT...oops, of course they are...I MEAN ARE THEY CORRECT?
They misrepresented what Hare said, then beat him up with lies. After being relentlessly harassed, Hare chose his words poorly as he explained how deeply he felt about health care for people without insurance. They then put words in his mouth by saying that he doesn't care about the Constitution when giving entitlements to people. It is crystal clear to me that FOX programming like this, is not only dishonest, it is dishonesty in pursuit of a well planned agenda.
@dijhili thanks for responding! Did you see the whole video? I'm not defending Hare as being the brightest guy, just that FOX intentionally misrepresented the incident as is their habit. One should interpret Hare's words as meaning that he sees no constitutional conflict in the health care bill as he ended his statement with "on this"....granted he did not say what he meant. He had already been called a Nazi, a communist, and a liar. Perhaps he was a bit PO'd and tired of them in his face??
@dijhili I too believe that our constitution does guarantee "life, liberty, and pursuit of happness," don't you. Jefferson would not have evoked Locke's words in our D of I and then, a few years later, promoted the creation of an American Federal government which failed to protect them. And, the Declaration of Independence is part of our constitution [little c] just as the English "constitution" is made up of many docs over many years. Wouldn't you agree? You won't learn anything on FOX!
@macsoc11 Did anyone else catch O'reilly slip in "the president saying I don't care about the Constitution" as if the stupid word choice of this one (rather ignorant) congressman will become the president's legal argument in defense of "Obamacare?" (a term that no credible source should use, by the way) It is fascinating, but sad, to see how much mileage the right is getting out their intentional misrepresentation of this one incident. WOW! TV pundits (both sides) fear rational, civil, debate
I offered hare a free copy of the Constitution which was given to me compliments of being a member of the Heritage Foundation but received no response.
People of Illinois 17th District, if you care about the Constitution and Deceleration of Independence, two documents that many bled and died for, DO NOT vote for Phil Hare.
BUSTED! I can't believe I haven't seen this yet! The fool also doesn't respond to email telling him to kill the bill! I'm gonna put a sign in my yard that says
@ 45caliber... Remember what Mark Twain had to say: "Never argue with a fool. Folks may not be able to tell the difference." It more than fits with Phil Hare.
Hare is an AssHat. The nothing more important than the US Constitution. Not even any single Americans life. That is why so many Americans sacrificed their lives in past military engagements. And Phil Hare has disgraced the sacrifice made by each American who has sacrificed his or her life defending the United States Constitution.
Shame on you Hare. You are a disgusting example of an American.
Okay, so Phil Hare IS a nutcase, but O'Reilly and his guests seem to think that, because Hare has said he doesn't care about the Constitution, all Democrats therefore think the same, and should "admit it". That's a bit of a hasty generalization, if you ask me.
@dopplesoldners That the health care bill is unconstitutional is a matter of interpretation. Surely, there are a few people in both parties who care very little about upholding the Constitution. However, the majority of Democrats likely believe that what they are doing is exigent and completely Constitutional. Does that make them right? Not necessarily, but even if they're not, it doesn't imply that they don't care about the Constitution, just that the have a different interpretation than others
@gusgusthegreat You're an idiot. Democrats voted for an unconstitutional health care bill, thus they do not care about the constitution. It's really that simple. Don't twist words to pull at heart strings and pretend that the Democrats are really looking out for you. It's a bill written by insurance companies to profit insurance companies. Please clue yourself in.
@dopplesoldners But only in your view is it unconstitutional and "that simple". Honestly, if you can't comprehend that their are alternative interpretations to your own, you have issues. I'm not trying to pull at heart strings, twist words, or even support the Democrats. I don't. I'm libertarian. But generalizing that all Democrats care nothing for the Constitution is ludicrous, just as suggesting that whatever party you're part of must be full of prejudiced, delusional, lunatics would be.
@gusgusthegreat And that is why you are wrong. I belong to no political party, as political parties do not actually exist in America, merely the illusion of such. Anyone who believes parties do exist IS delusional.
The bill is unconstitutional. You can lie all you please and say it isn't, except it is, and the reasons it is have been illustrated in far too many publicly available sources for me to attempt to cram them inside a 500 character box on youtube.
@dopplesoldners Please tell me exactly how the current conception of a political party is a mere "illusion" and then I might take you seriously. Also, please define exactly what believe a "real" political party to constist of.
Again, that the bill is somehow objectively unconstitutional is a delusion. Regardless, even if it were as such, one cannot thereby insinuate that all those in favor of it do not care about the Constitution.
@dopplesoldners (cont.) Perhaps Democrats are deluded, but one can be deluded and care about something at the same time. For example, someone who is part of a "false religion" according to an outsider cannot thereby claim that this person does not care about their eternal well-being. They most certainly do, but go about achieving it in a way that is different from yours.
@dopplesoldners Similarly, the Democrats could be part of a false ideal, but that does not mean they do not care about the Constitution. Further, please illustrate how the bill objectively violates any part of the Constitution, especially the Interstate Commerce Clause, if these sources are so "publicly available".
Finally, what's the point of a judicial branch whose purpose it is to interpret the law, including the Constitution, if the Constitution is really just a set of objective ideals?
really? so the government can force us to buy a product from a private owner and it's constitutional. well by that logic they can force us to buy gym memberships or certain types of food from private owners/govt. run businesses so that they can keep obesity rates down. its clear that the left is unconstitutional
@garbage333 At no point during this discussion have I claimed that such things are constitutional. However, people such as yourself also fail to prove where, exactly, such an action becomes explicitly unconstitutional. As such, my point has not been to take a side, but to explain to people that, believe it or not, there is not one, objective way to interpret the Constitution. See my earlier comments for further explanation.
it doesn't have to be explicity constitutional. we have supreme court judges for a reason; they interpret what the founding fathers meant. we wouldn't need these judges if everything single thing was explicit. the whole idea of the democrats is to get government more involved in peoples lives, which the founding fathers clearly did not want when writing the constitution. remember how misrable it was for American colonists?
@garbage333 Further, it is ludicrous to claim that entire political ideologies, such as "the left" or "Democrats" are all unconstitutional. Again, see my prior comments for in depth explanation. I'm all for interpreting the Constitution how you see fit, but, regardless of your conclusions drawn, it remains foolish to generalize.
@garbage333 Yeah garbage, you have failed to prove to a moron that he is a moron, therefore you R fail. This reminds me of an algebra teacher who refused to understand that a ball propelled straight up has to theoretically stop at some point before falling back to Earth. Only this ones a lot simpler. And yes, all democrats are currently un-Constitutional. Call me when they come back down off their power trip.
ok, so that means everyone who can't tell a democrat that their party is unconstitutional is a fail. i'm a fail, you're a fail, our party's leaders are fails, and everyone who has ever debated with a stubborn liberal is a fail.
Hare is showing all voters the "we know what's best" attitude that the majority of elected officials now have. Gone is the governments concern for the voter and it's been replaced by arrogance.
Hare is showing all voters the "we know what's best" attitude that the majority of elected officials now have. Gone is the governments concern for the voter and it's been replaced by arrogance.
jj...for starters, please read the Tenth Amendment,
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Right on... We don't circuminvent the constitution or try to nullify it. Besides the constitutional issue, the bill is very shaky at best with all the back-room deals only among the Democrats and the bribes offered to Congressional Democrats for their votes. Doesn't sound like a fair-and-square victory to me. Sounds more like cheating.
you know what these repubs sound like to me? Scientologist!! they ask where in the constitution can this be done, but you dont hear them say where in the constitution it cant be done.
@jj1oo2ee3 It's because they're saying they're passing the healthcare bill because they "believe we have the 'right' to free healthcare." First off it won't be free, you have to pay for it or you will be fined. Next, nowhere does the Constitution say we have a 'right' to free health care! Sure, if they want to say its a good idea and they want to see it happen that fine, but it is not a right. But they don't care about that anyway, which is why the bill is just a big wad of pork.
i luv greg :)
christinaxoxo22 8 months ago
The other countries can tell their citizens what they will receive in terms of medical attention, that is their business. I don't care about Canada, or the U.K, or whoever. This is the U.S.A., where the Constition is THE LAW! All members of Congress and the President take an oath to support, protect, and defend it.
Cojer52 9 months ago
O'Reilly is a hypocrite!
watch watch?v=5eBrfql3pnU @ 1:50 and tell me what he says.
trufbetold 9 months ago
I was INSPIRED BY A KIDNEY DOCTOR in the meaning of selfless devotion to the causes surrounding redemption in the formation of a mother's right to have a tender interlude before the Hoover Vacuum Machine Company transfers the precious contents of her womb-sanctuary to a metal canister.
SufferInJuly 1 year ago
Glad to say, the voters have rectified their mistake and returned him to private life. Go Bobby!
CptRiggs 1 year ago
fox loves americans - extra soft targets.
srkh28 1 year ago
Americans are dumbasses, who don't know how wretched their country is not having guraranteed health care like most industrialised nations. They deserve the stupid presidents like Bush, and if can get enough idiots to vote in 2012 they can have Sarah Palin. God help the rest of the world though.
ek04show 1 year ago
WAKE UP, FOX VIEWERS! FOX THINKS YOU ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THEIR CRAP INDEFINITELY! ARE THEY RIGHT...oops, of course they are...I MEAN ARE THEY CORRECT?
macsoc11 1 year ago
They misrepresented what Hare said, then beat him up with lies. After being relentlessly harassed, Hare chose his words poorly as he explained how deeply he felt about health care for people without insurance. They then put words in his mouth by saying that he doesn't care about the Constitution when giving entitlements to people. It is crystal clear to me that FOX programming like this, is not only dishonest, it is dishonesty in pursuit of a well planned agenda.
See the Hare video yourself!
macsoc11 1 year ago
@macsoc11 those words came from his mouth and his alone. Why not blame Bush as well? LOL
dijhili 1 year ago
@dijhili thanks for responding! Did you see the whole video? I'm not defending Hare as being the brightest guy, just that FOX intentionally misrepresented the incident as is their habit. One should interpret Hare's words as meaning that he sees no constitutional conflict in the health care bill as he ended his statement with "on this"....granted he did not say what he meant. He had already been called a Nazi, a communist, and a liar. Perhaps he was a bit PO'd and tired of them in his face??
macsoc11 1 year ago
@dijhili I too believe that our constitution does guarantee "life, liberty, and pursuit of happness," don't you. Jefferson would not have evoked Locke's words in our D of I and then, a few years later, promoted the creation of an American Federal government which failed to protect them. And, the Declaration of Independence is part of our constitution [little c] just as the English "constitution" is made up of many docs over many years. Wouldn't you agree? You won't learn anything on FOX!
macsoc11 1 year ago
@macsoc11 Did anyone else catch O'reilly slip in "the president saying I don't care about the Constitution" as if the stupid word choice of this one (rather ignorant) congressman will become the president's legal argument in defense of "Obamacare?" (a term that no credible source should use, by the way) It is fascinating, but sad, to see how much mileage the right is getting out their intentional misrepresentation of this one incident. WOW! TV pundits (both sides) fear rational, civil, debate
macsoc11 1 year ago
He cares about people and thats what it is all about. If Schilling cared about us he would live in our district
byronized 1 year ago
I offered hare one of my free copies of the Constitution given to me when I became a member of the Heritage Foundation. No Response as of yet.
conservativeg 1 year ago
I offered hare a free copy of the Constitution which was given to me compliments of being a member of the Heritage Foundation but received no response.
conservativeg 1 year ago
julet huddy is one hot chick
HandyMan101 1 year ago
Bobby Schilling for Congress!
People of Illinois 17th District, if you care about the Constitution and Deceleration of Independence, two documents that many bled and died for, DO NOT vote for Phil Hare.
ACoolDudeProduction 1 year ago
I don't worry about the constitution.
jschwind435 1 year ago
"Jackpot brotha".
TeaParty2012 1 year ago
Bobby Schilling should have a easy race against this fat a** come Nov
HMFICC178IN 1 year ago
BUSTED! I can't believe I haven't seen this yet! The fool also doesn't respond to email telling him to kill the bill! I'm gonna put a sign in my yard that says
PHIL HARE DOESN'T CARE
(I'm surrounded by republican farmers. No fear.)
mrsrevcross 1 year ago
@ 45caliber... Remember what Mark Twain had to say: "Never argue with a fool. Folks may not be able to tell the difference." It more than fits with Phil Hare.
mikeyd1101 1 year ago 5
Hare is an AssHat. The nothing more important than the US Constitution. Not even any single Americans life. That is why so many Americans sacrificed their lives in past military engagements. And Phil Hare has disgraced the sacrifice made by each American who has sacrificed his or her life defending the United States Constitution.
Shame on you Hare. You are a disgusting example of an American.
hubbyisfiveoh 1 year ago
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THHHEY TOOK DAH JOHB!
SouthwindPOR 1 year ago
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SouthwindPOR 1 year ago
Okay, so Phil Hare IS a nutcase, but O'Reilly and his guests seem to think that, because Hare has said he doesn't care about the Constitution, all Democrats therefore think the same, and should "admit it". That's a bit of a hasty generalization, if you ask me.
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
@gusgusthegreat So the Democrats who voted for an unconstitutional health care bill DO care about the constitution?
Bit of a hasty generalization, if you ask me.
dopplesoldners 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners That the health care bill is unconstitutional is a matter of interpretation. Surely, there are a few people in both parties who care very little about upholding the Constitution. However, the majority of Democrats likely believe that what they are doing is exigent and completely Constitutional. Does that make them right? Not necessarily, but even if they're not, it doesn't imply that they don't care about the Constitution, just that the have a different interpretation than others
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
@gusgusthegreat You're an idiot. Democrats voted for an unconstitutional health care bill, thus they do not care about the constitution. It's really that simple. Don't twist words to pull at heart strings and pretend that the Democrats are really looking out for you. It's a bill written by insurance companies to profit insurance companies. Please clue yourself in.
dopplesoldners 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners But only in your view is it unconstitutional and "that simple". Honestly, if you can't comprehend that their are alternative interpretations to your own, you have issues. I'm not trying to pull at heart strings, twist words, or even support the Democrats. I don't. I'm libertarian. But generalizing that all Democrats care nothing for the Constitution is ludicrous, just as suggesting that whatever party you're part of must be full of prejudiced, delusional, lunatics would be.
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
@gusgusthegreat *that there are alternative...
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
@gusgusthegreat And that is why you are wrong. I belong to no political party, as political parties do not actually exist in America, merely the illusion of such. Anyone who believes parties do exist IS delusional.
The bill is unconstitutional. You can lie all you please and say it isn't, except it is, and the reasons it is have been illustrated in far too many publicly available sources for me to attempt to cram them inside a 500 character box on youtube.
Go educate yourself. You disgust me.
dopplesoldners 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners Please tell me exactly how the current conception of a political party is a mere "illusion" and then I might take you seriously. Also, please define exactly what believe a "real" political party to constist of.
Again, that the bill is somehow objectively unconstitutional is a delusion. Regardless, even if it were as such, one cannot thereby insinuate that all those in favor of it do not care about the Constitution.
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners (cont.) Perhaps Democrats are deluded, but one can be deluded and care about something at the same time. For example, someone who is part of a "false religion" according to an outsider cannot thereby claim that this person does not care about their eternal well-being. They most certainly do, but go about achieving it in a way that is different from yours.
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
@dopplesoldners Similarly, the Democrats could be part of a false ideal, but that does not mean they do not care about the Constitution. Further, please illustrate how the bill objectively violates any part of the Constitution, especially the Interstate Commerce Clause, if these sources are so "publicly available".
Finally, what's the point of a judicial branch whose purpose it is to interpret the law, including the Constitution, if the Constitution is really just a set of objective ideals?
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
really? so the government can force us to buy a product from a private owner and it's constitutional. well by that logic they can force us to buy gym memberships or certain types of food from private owners/govt. run businesses so that they can keep obesity rates down. its clear that the left is unconstitutional
garbage333 1 year ago
@garbage333 At no point during this discussion have I claimed that such things are constitutional. However, people such as yourself also fail to prove where, exactly, such an action becomes explicitly unconstitutional. As such, my point has not been to take a side, but to explain to people that, believe it or not, there is not one, objective way to interpret the Constitution. See my earlier comments for further explanation.
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
it doesn't have to be explicity constitutional. we have supreme court judges for a reason; they interpret what the founding fathers meant. we wouldn't need these judges if everything single thing was explicit. the whole idea of the democrats is to get government more involved in peoples lives, which the founding fathers clearly did not want when writing the constitution. remember how misrable it was for American colonists?
garbage333 1 year ago
@garbage333 ideally...
but now we have a dyke who has no experience
and a racist who thinks latin people are smarter than whites on the supreme court, anything is up for grabs
HandyMan101 1 year ago
@garbage333 Further, it is ludicrous to claim that entire political ideologies, such as "the left" or "Democrats" are all unconstitutional. Again, see my prior comments for in depth explanation. I'm all for interpreting the Constitution how you see fit, but, regardless of your conclusions drawn, it remains foolish to generalize.
gusgusthegreat 1 year ago
@garbage333 Yeah garbage, you have failed to prove to a moron that he is a moron, therefore you R fail. This reminds me of an algebra teacher who refused to understand that a ball propelled straight up has to theoretically stop at some point before falling back to Earth. Only this ones a lot simpler. And yes, all democrats are currently un-Constitutional. Call me when they come back down off their power trip.
45CaliberCure 1 year ago
ok, so that means everyone who can't tell a democrat that their party is unconstitutional is a fail. i'm a fail, you're a fail, our party's leaders are fails, and everyone who has ever debated with a stubborn liberal is a fail.
garbage333 1 year ago
@garbage333 Just being a little sarcastic and over the top, but it really isn't far enough from the truth to make me comfortable these days:)
Regards,
Dave
45CaliberCure 1 year ago
Let's give Phil Hare retirement in November.
kittnluver 1 year ago
These people don't need to be hiding anymore. And many of them aren't.
They're that sure that the American People are too stupid to recognize tyranny even when it's right in their face.
And for some, that's actually true. A shame, really. That's public (government) schools for you.
LtSurge659 1 year ago
Hare is showing all voters the "we know what's best" attitude that the majority of elected officials now have. Gone is the governments concern for the voter and it's been replaced by arrogance.
MrDoug509 1 year ago 2
Hare is showing all voters the "we know what's best" attitude that the majority of elected officials now have. Gone is the governments concern for the voter and it's been replaced by arrogance.
MrDoug509 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hare is a moron.
Gutfeld rules.
Caldonia400 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hare is a moron.
Gutfeld rules.
Caldonia400 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hare is a moron.
Gutfeld rules.
Caldonia400 1 year ago
Hare is a moron.
Gutfeld rules.
Caldonia400 1 year ago
Hare is a moron.
Gutfeld rules.
Caldonia400 1 year ago 2
jj...for starters, please read the Tenth Amendment,
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
VOTETHEBUMSOUT2010(dot)com
VOTETHEBUMSOUT2010 1 year ago
Right on... We don't circuminvent the constitution or try to nullify it. Besides the constitutional issue, the bill is very shaky at best with all the back-room deals only among the Democrats and the bribes offered to Congressional Democrats for their votes. Doesn't sound like a fair-and-square victory to me. Sounds more like cheating.
RichPeru63 1 year ago
you know what these repubs sound like to me? Scientologist!! they ask where in the constitution can this be done, but you dont hear them say where in the constitution it cant be done.
jj1oo2ee3 1 year ago
@jj1oo2ee3 It's because they're saying they're passing the healthcare bill because they "believe we have the 'right' to free healthcare." First off it won't be free, you have to pay for it or you will be fined. Next, nowhere does the Constitution say we have a 'right' to free health care! Sure, if they want to say its a good idea and they want to see it happen that fine, but it is not a right. But they don't care about that anyway, which is why the bill is just a big wad of pork.
nathan9384 1 year ago